Monday, April 29, 1996

3976 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ALBANY, NEW YORK 9 April 29, 1996 10 3:09 p.m. 11 12 13 REGULAR SESSION 14 15 16 17 SENATOR JOHN R. KUHL, JR., Acting President 18 STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary 19 20 21 22 23 3977 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The Senate 3 will come to order. I ask the members to find 4 their places, staff to find their places. 5 I would ask everybody to rise and 6 join with me in saying the Pledge of Allegiance 7 to the flag. 8 (The assemblage repeated the 9 Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 10 In the absence of clergy, may we 11 bow our heads in a moment of silence. 12 (A moment of silence was 13 observed.) 14 Reading of the Journal. 15 THE SECRETARY: In Senate, 16 Sunday, April 28. The Senate met pursuant to 17 adjournment, Senator Farley in the Chair upon 18 designation of the Temporary President. The 19 Journal of Saturday, April 27th, was read and 20 approved. On motion, Senate adjourned. 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Hearing no 22 objection the Journal stands approved as 23 read. 3978 1 Presentation of petitions. 2 Messages from the Assembly. 3 Messages from the Governor. 4 Reports of standing committees. 5 Reports of select committees. 6 Communications and reports from 7 state officers. 8 Motions and resolutions. 9 Senator Libous. 10 SENATOR LIBOUS: Thank you, Mr. 11 President. 12 On behalf of myself, would you 13 please place a sponsor's star on Calendar Number 14 757. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: At the 16 request of the sponsor, Calendar Number 757 is 17 starred. 18 Senator Libous. 19 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, on 20 page 47, I offer the following amendments to 21 Calendar Number 364, Senate Print Number 4440, 22 and ask that said bill retain its place on the 23 Third Reading Calendar. 3979 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: 2 Amendments are received and adopted. The bill 3 will retain its place on the Third Reading 4 Calendar. 5 Senator Libous. 6 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, on 7 page 48, I offer the following amendments to 8 Calendar 507, Senate Print 6219, and ask that 9 said bill retain its place on the Third Reading 10 Calendar. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Amendments 12 to Calendar 507, that was, Senator, the one you 13 just announced? 14 SENATOR LIBOUS: 507, that is 15 correct, Calendar Number 507. 16 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: 507, 17 Amendments received and adopted. The bill will 18 retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar. 19 Senator Libous. 20 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, 21 on page 36, I offer the following amendments to 22 Calendar Number 670, Senate Print Number 6355, 23 and ask that said bill retain its place on the 3980 1 Third Reading Calendar. 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: 3 Amendments are received and adopted. The bill 4 will retain its place on the Third Reading 5 Calendar. 6 Senator Libous. 7 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, on 8 behalf of Senator Holland, I would like to call 9 up his bill, Print Number 32A, recalled from the 10 Assembly, which is now at the desk. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 12 Secretary will read. 13 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 14 558, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 32A, an 15 act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to 16 increasing bond indebtedness. 17 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 18 Libous. 19 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, I 20 now move to reconsider the vote by which this 21 bill was passed. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 23 will call the roll on reconsideration. 3981 1 (The Secretary called the roll on 2 reconsideration.) 3 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 47. 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 5 Libous. 6 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, I 7 offer up the following amendments. 8 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: 9 Amendments received and adopted. 10 Senator Libous. 11 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, on 12 behalf of Senator Saland, I wish to call up his 13 Print Number 3502A, recalled from the Assembly, 14 which is now at the desk. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 16 will read. 17 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 18 274, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 3502A, an 19 act to amend the Real Property Tax Law. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 21 Libous. 22 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, I 23 now move to reconsider the vote by which this 3982 1 bill was passed. 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 3 will call the roll on reconsideration. 4 (The Secretary called the roll 5 on reconsideration.) 6 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 50. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 8 Libous. 9 SENATOR LIBOUS: Mr. President, I 10 offer up the following amendments. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Amendments 12 received and adopted. 13 Senator Bruno, we have two 14 substitutions at the desk, what's your pleasure? 15 SENATOR BRUNO: Make the 16 substitutions, please. 17 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 18 will read the substitution. 19 THE SECRETARY: On page 13, 20 Senator Tully moves to discharge from the 21 Committee on Environmental Conservation, 22 Assembly Bill Number 2690 and substitute it for 23 the identical Third Reading Calendar 166. 3983 1 On page 16, Senator LaValle moves 2 to discharge from the Committee on Codes 3 Assembly Bill Number 5796B and substitute it for 4 the identical Third Reading Calendar 329. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: 6 Substitutions are ordered. 7 Senator Bruno. 8 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, I 9 believe there's a resolution at the desk by 10 Senator Levy. I would ask that the title be 11 read and that we move its adoption. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There is 13 a privileged resolution at the desk, I'll ask 14 the Secretary to read the title. 15 THE SECRETARY: By Senator Levy, 16 legislative resolution honoring John Kanas upon 17 the occasion of his designation as recipient of 18 the Long Island Commerce and Industry Division 19 of State of Israel Bonds' "Jerusalem 3000" 20 award. 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Question 22 is on the resolution. All those in favor 23 signify by saying aye. 3984 1 (Response of aye.) 2 Opposed nay. 3 (There was no response.) 4 The resolution is adopted. 5 The Chair recognizes Senator 6 Stafford. 7 SENATOR STAFFORD: Mr. President, 8 could we please announce a Finance Committee 9 meeting immediately in Room 332. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There 11 will be an immediate meeting of the Senate 12 Finance Committee in the Senate Majority 13 Conference Room, Room 332. Immediate meeting of 14 the Senate Finance Committee in the Majority 15 Conference Room, Room 332. 16 Senator Bruno, that brings us to 17 the Calendar. 18 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, 19 can we, at this time, take up the non 20 controversial calendar. 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 22 will read the non-controversial calendar. 23 THE SECRETARY: On page 16, 3985 1 Calendar Number 323, by Senator Volker, Senate 2 Print 2957C, an act to amend the Civil Rights 3 Law, in relation to providing for limited 4 immunity from civil liability. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 6 will read the last section. 7 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 8 act shall take effect on the first day of 9 November. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 11 roll. 12 (The Secretary called the roll.) 13 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Announce 14 the results -- Senator DeFrancisco, to explain 15 your vote. 16 SENATOR DeFRANCISCO: Yes. I'm 17 going vote in the negative. I think that 18 although this is a well-intentioned bill, I 19 think it's a precedent that can be used in many, 20 many other instances to limit liability based 21 upon who or what class of individuals happen to 22 be the individuals that are negligent, and for 23 that reason, I'm going to vote no. 3986 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Announce 2 the results. 3 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 50, nays 1, 4 Senator DeFrancisco recorded in the negative. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 6 is passed. 7 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 8 355, by Senator Liebell, Senate Print 2709, an 9 act to amend the Labor Law, in relation to 10 additional eligibility requirements. 11 SENATOR BRUNO: Lay it aside, 12 please, at the request of the sponsor. 13 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 14 bill aside for the day at the request of the 15 sponsor. 16 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 17 407, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 5072B, an 18 act to permit the reopening of the optional 20 19 year retirement plan to Douglas P. Hoering. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There's a 21 home rule message at the desk. Secretary will 22 read the last section. 23 SENATOR LEICHTER: Lay it aside. 3987 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 2 bill aside. 3 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 4 425, by member of the Assembly Colman, Assembly 5 Print 1865B, an act to amend the Executive Law, 6 in relation to energy purchasing programs of the 7 state. 8 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 9 will read the last section. 10 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 11 act shall take effect immediately. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 13 roll. 14 (The Secretary called the roll.) 15 SENATOR BRUNO: Lay it aside, Mr. 16 President, on behalf of the sponsor. 17 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 18 bill aside for the day at the request of the 19 sponsor. 20 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 21 449 - 22 SENATOR BRUNO: Same for Calendar 23 449. 3988 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay 2 Calendar 449 aside for the day at the request of 3 the sponsor. 4 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 5 492, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 1286, an 6 act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law, in 7 relation to spectators at exhibitions of animal 8 fighting. 9 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 10 will read the last section. 11 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 12 act shall take effect on the first day of 13 November. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 15 roll. 16 (The Secretary called the roll.) 17 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 19 is passed. 20 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 21 534, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 18 - 22 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Lay it aside. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 3989 1 bill aside. 2 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 3 543, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 3424C, an 4 act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 5 of New York, in relation to a credit against the 6 unincorporated business income tax. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 8 will read the last section. 9 THE SECRETARY: Section 18. This 10 act shall take effect immediately. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 12 roll. 13 (The Secretary called the roll.) 14 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 16 is passed. 17 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 18 549, by member of Assembly Weinstein, Assembly 19 Print 5786, an act to amend the Real Property 20 Law, in relation to the right to receive a copy 21 of an appraisal of real property. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 23 will read the last section. 3990 1 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 2 act shall take effect immediately. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 4 roll. 5 (The Secretary called the roll.) 6 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 8 is passed. 9 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 10 567, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 5270, an 11 act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in 12 relation to denying registration of vehicles 13 owned by scofflaws. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 15 will read the last section. 16 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 17 act shall take effect immediately. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 19 roll. 20 (The Secretary called the roll.) 21 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 23 is passed. 3991 1 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 2 570, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 6301, an act 3 in relation to granting the Department of 4 Transportation the authority to enter into 5 contracts. 6 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 7 will read the last section. 8 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 9 act shall take effect immediately. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 11 roll. 12 (The Secretary called the roll.) 13 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 15 is passed. 16 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 17 593, by Senator Stafford, Senate Print 5920A, an 18 act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law, 19 in relation to county responsibility for forest 20 fire expenses. 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There's a 22 local fiscal impact note at the desk. The 23 Secretary will read the last section. 3992 1 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 2 act shall take effect immediately. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 4 roll. 5 (The Secretary called the roll.) 6 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 8 is passed. 9 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 10 595, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3235, an act 11 to amend the New York State Urban Development 12 Corporation Act, the Omnibus Economic 13 Development Act of 1987 and the Economic 14 Development Law. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 16 Secretary will read the last section. 17 THE SECRETARY: Section 5. This 18 act shall take effect immediately. 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 20 roll. 21 (The Secretary called the roll.) 22 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 3993 1 is passed. 2 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 3 612, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 773 - 4 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Lay it aside. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 6 bill aside. 7 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 8 790, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 7377, an 9 act to amend Chapter 708 of the Laws of 1992 10 amending the General Municipal Law. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 12 will read the last section. 13 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 14 act shall take effect immediately. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 16 roll. 17 (The Secretary called the roll.) 18 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 20 is passed. 21 Senator Bruno, that completes the 22 non-controversial calendar. 23 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, 3994 1 can we, at this time, take up the controversial 2 calendar. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 4 will read the controversial calendar. 5 THE SECRETARY: On page 19, 6 Calendar Number 407, by Senator Holland, Senate 7 Print 5072B, an act to permit the reopening of 8 the optional 20 year retirement plan. 9 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 10 will read the last section. 11 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 12 act shall take effect - 13 SENATOR PATERSON: Mr. President. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 15 Paterson, why do you rise? 16 SENATOR PATERSON: I noticed, Mr. 17 President, that Senator Leichter laid this bill 18 aside and I believe he's at the Finance 19 Committee meeting. Might we hold this just a 20 second pending his arrival? 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 22 Skelos, what's your pleasure? 23 SENATOR SKELOS: No objection. 3995 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Okay. 2 We'll lay the bill aside temporarily. 3 Continue to call the contro 4 versial calendar. 5 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 6 534, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 1861, an 7 act to amend Election Law and the State Finance 8 Law, in relation to requiring proposition 9 authorizing the creation of a state debt. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 11 Paterson. 12 SENATOR PATERSON: Mr. President, 13 same trouble. Senator Dollinger laid this bill 14 aside, and he is also attending that Finance 15 Committee meeting. 16 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 17 Skelos. 18 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, if 19 I could ask Senator Paterson a question. Is 20 there a Minority Conference going on or some 21 reason why we're not prepared to debate these? 22 They're in Finance? Okay, no objection. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 3996 1 bill aside temporarily. 2 Secretary will continue to call 3 the controversial calendar. 4 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 5 612, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 773, an act 6 to amend the Penal Law, in relation to including 7 the theft of cats and dogs. 8 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 9 Paterson. 10 SENATOR PATERSON: Mr. President, 11 I would just like, because there are some 12 members outside the chamber who were called 13 there by the Acting Majority Leader, I would 14 just like the record to reflect that last year 15 Senators Abate, Babbush, Leichter, Gold, 16 Mendez, Montgomery and Waldon voted against this 17 bill. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 19 will read the last section. 20 THE SECRETARY: Section 3. This 21 act shall take effect on the first day of 22 November. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 3997 1 roll. 2 (The Secretary called the roll.) 3 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 51. 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 5 is passed. 6 Senator Bruno, we have one 7 substitution at the desk, if you would like to 8 take that up at this time. 9 SENATOR BRUNO: Please make the 10 substitution. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Return to 12 motions and resolutions. 13 Secretary will read the 14 substitution. 15 THE SECRETARY: On page 42, 16 Senator Trunzo moves to discharge from the 17 Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 18 Assembly Bill Number 9530, and substitute it for 19 the identical Third Reading Calendar 728. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 21 substitution is ordered. 22 Senator Bruno. 23 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, 3998 1 can we at this time take up Calendar Number 534. 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 3 will read Calendar Number 534. 4 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 5 534, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 1861, an 6 act to amend the Election Law and the State 7 Finance Law in relation to requiring proposition 8 authorizing the creation of a state debt. 9 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Explanation. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 11 Farley, an explanation of Calendar Number 534 12 has been asked for by Senator Dollinger. 13 SENATOR FARLEY: Happy to 14 explain it. 15 This is a bill, incidentally, that 16 has passed the last two years, I think 17 unanimously. The bill amends the Election Law 18 to require that a bond issue proposition that is 19 on the state ballot contain an estimate of the 20 total amount to be repaid by the taxpayers, both 21 principal and interest. At present, only the 22 principal is listed. 23 This bill passed the Senate in 3999 1 March, 1995; in March, '94; in March, '93, all 2 three times unanimously, Senator Dollinger 3 voting to support it. 4 In summary -- I've got a summary 5 of that debate. The bill is intended to improve 6 the information available to voters when they 7 decide to issue a bond issue proposition. 8 You know, when people take out a 9 mortgage to buy a house or a loan to buy a car 10 or other expensive item, they understand the 11 amount which they pay back will include 12 interest and, hence, will be more than the 13 principal amount of the loan. In fact, the 14 state and federal laws require that lenders 15 prominently display interest rate information in 16 its advertising to show the cumulative total 17 interest payment in loan documents. 18 This bill would place bond issue 19 propositions in a similar status as consumer 20 borrowing requiring disclosure of the total 21 expected cost. The bill is designed to reflect 22 administrative reality, providing for an 23 estimate only of total cost inasmuch as the 4000 1 actual interest rate at which obligations can be 2 sold can only be approximated in advance. 3 Also, the bill calls for 4 disclosure to be printed in the largest type 5 which is practicable for the different documents 6 involved, recognizing the administrative reality 7 of varying documents on the ballot. 8 I hope that is an adequate 9 explanation. 10 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Mr. President, 11 will Senator Farley yield to a question? 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 13 Farley, do you yield to Senator Dollinger? 14 SENATOR FARLEY: Sure. I would 15 be delighted. 16 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 17 yields. 18 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Senator, 19 during the last year, I actually got involved in 20 a lawsuit against the Board of Elections because 21 of the wording of the Proposition Number 3 that 22 was put on the ballot last year. You may recall 23 that lawsuit, Mr. Schulz and I were plaintiffs 4001 1 in that lawsuit in an action to clarify the 2 intention of the state legislature. 3 My question to you is, I agree 4 with the concept of this bill, but I want to 5 know, why shouldn't the legislature figure out 6 and tell the Board of Elections what the stated 7 interest rate would be; and number two, why 8 shouldn't the legislature do the calculation so 9 that we don't have to fight over whether the 10 Comptroller used the right assumed interest 11 rate or whether the calculation is appropriate, 12 the kinds of things that could generate 13 litigation? 14 As you know, when financing 15 billions of dollars in debt, half a percent in 16 the interest rate or three-quarters percent in 17 the interest rate could make a huge difference. 18 Why wouldn't we do it? Why wouldn't we delegate 19 that discretion of Board of Elections, why not 20 do it ourselves? 21 SENATOR FARLEY: Well, the point 22 we're trying to make is I would think that the 23 interest rate might be a moving target, so to 4002 1 speak, and we don't know exactly what it would 2 amount to; and again, we're only given an 3 estimate. 4 I have no great quarrel with what 5 you're saying, but this accomplishes the same 6 thing, don't you think? 7 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Actually, no. 8 I'm concerned because I'm afraid that the State 9 Board of Elections would come back with a 10 different interest rate, be very difficult to 11 calculate that interest rate, and some day we're 12 going to end up in litigation again because 13 someone will sit down and say the interest rate 14 shouldn't be five percent, it should be six 15 percent, because the long-term interest rate is 16 different if you had six percent rather than 17 five percent, the number is going to balloon by 18 several billion dollars. Why shouldn't we do 19 that? 20 SENATOR FARLEY: Because we'd be 21 in the same position that the Board of Elections 22 is, that we don't know what that interest rate 23 is; we don't know that until the bonds go out. 4003 1 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Again, 2 through you, Mr. President, I would just suggest 3 that - 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 5 Farley, do you continue to yield? 6 SENATOR FARLEY: Yes. 7 SENATOR DOLLINGER: I would just 8 suggest, Senator, that since this bill has 9 passed this house a number of times but it 10 never made it through the Assembly, that one of 11 the things you might think about doing is let's 12 do that ourselves. We have a Finance Committee, 13 a Finance staff, we can project the reasonable 14 interest over time. We have the same 15 capability, if not better capability, than the 16 Board of Elections does; and certainly I would 17 suggest that since we're passing the bond or 18 passing the authorization for the bond, we ought 19 to do it over the Comptroller, as well. 20 SENATOR FARLEY: Thank you. If I 21 may respond. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 23 Farley, to respond. 4004 1 SENATOR FARLEY: Your point is 2 well-taken, Senator Dollinger. Perhaps part of 3 the problem with this legislation is it is 4 sponsored by a Republican Assemblyman over in 5 the house and that might -- I would think - 6 and to go back to the substance of your 7 question, as I think of it, I guess the Board of 8 Elections would be making that determination at 9 a little later date closer to the election 10 or closer to the ballot than the legislature, 11 which would be out of session, would do. 12 But, by and large, if you think 13 that would make a difference, I would be happy 14 to do a chapter amendment some time else. 15 I would like to get this over to 16 see if we can't go forward with this. I think 17 that we all agree with the concept; but again, I 18 think the Board of Elections can make a later 19 decision than we could, and it might be a little 20 bit more accurate. 21 If you've got any ideas how we can 22 come up with the exact figure, I'd certainly be 23 willing to accept them. 4005 1 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Okay. Mr. 2 President, on the bill. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 4 Dollinger, on the bill. 5 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Senator, I 6 actually have something I think will even 7 improve this bill, I have an amendment at the 8 desk that I would ask the reading of the 9 amendment be waived and that I be given the 10 opportunity to be heard on the amendment. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 12 Dollinger, there is an amendment at the desk. 13 We'll waive the reading of that and you are now 14 afforded an opportune time to explain the 15 amendment. 16 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Thank you, 17 Mr. President. 18 Senator Farley, I appreciate this 19 bill, I think this is a good housekeeping bill, 20 the original bill, because it does the kind of 21 thing that the voters want to know before they 22 vote on a ballot proposition. This amendment, 23 which I think is going to make this bill an even 4006 1 better bill for the people of this state would 2 ban the practice of back door borrowing. 3 Here we've got an opportunity, 4 once again, to stand up and say that we're not 5 going to allow the agencies of this state to 6 commit the state's credit without voter 7 approval, what our constitution certainly by its 8 spirit has always required, and a great way 9 to control the state's excessive debt 10 practices, a great way to control the cost of 11 that excessive debt which, as we all know, runs 12 to billions of dollars each year. 13 This is the opportunity to do it. 14 Here's your chance. We don't have to ban 15 abortions, but we can ban back door borrowing, 16 we can do it today. We can start down the path 17 to the kind of fiscal sanity that Senator 18 Farley's underlying bill I think achieves with 19 respect to delineating the actual cost of the 20 bond. 21 Here's a chance where we can 22 return to fiscal sanity right now, right today, 23 start down the path, send this good bill with 4007 1 an even better amendment over to the other 2 house, give them an opportunity not only to 3 state the interest rate so the voters know what 4 they're actually paying, but also put a little 5 provision in the State Finance Law, the same 6 provision of the State Finance Law that would 7 say we're going to ban back door borrowing, 8 we're going to return to the days of fiscal 9 sanity in the state in which we let the voters 10 decide how much money we've committed to future 11 generations. 12 It's been a bad practice, it's 13 been abused; if anything, it's been bipartisant 14 abuse. Perhaps that abuse has come from this 15 house, it may have come from the Assembly; Lord 16 knows, it's clearly come from Governors on both 17 sides of the aisle, but it's a bad practice, we 18 ought to stop it. Here's a way to send a little 19 message to the house across the way, here's a 20 message to send to the Second Floor, that we're 21 going to ban back door borrowing. Here is your 22 chance to do it. 23 I would move the amendment, Mr. 4008 1 President. 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Any other 3 Senator wishing to speak on the amendment? 4 Senator Leichter, on the 5 amendment. 6 SENATOR LEICHTER: If Senator 7 Dollinger would yield, please. 8 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 9 Dollinger, do you yield to Senator Leichter? 10 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Yes, I will, 11 Mr. President. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 13 yields. 14 SENATOR LEICHTER: Senator, could 15 you briefly describe to us how your amendment 16 would ban back door borrowing? 17 SENATOR DOLLINGER: What it 18 would say is, it would simply amend section 41- 19 it would add a new section 41-A to the state 20 Finance Law and it would simply say that the 21 appropriations, the eliminative appropriations 22 under the State Finance Law would be limited to 23 those under which the revenue of the state is 4009 1 appropriate, whether or not on a contingent 2 basis, for the purposes of making payments of 3 principal or interest on indebtedness of the 4 state or any municipality, individual, public or 5 private corporation. 6 It would prevent the payment of 7 appropriations for debt that is not authorized 8 by the voters. 9 SENATOR LEICHTER: Mr. President. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 11 Leichter. 12 SENATOR LEICHTER: If Senator 13 Dollinger would continue to yield. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Pardon 15 the interruption, gentlemen. I just, for my own 16 benefit, counted at least ten conversations 17 going on in the chamber. It's extremely noisy 18 in here. I'd like the benefit of your 19 questions and answers, if nobody else does. 20 Could we quiet it down, please? 21 Thank you. 22 The Senator yields, Senator 23 Leichter. 4010 1 SENATOR DOLLINGER: I will, Mr. 2 President. 3 SENATOR LEICHTER: Senator 4 Dollinger, would your amendment, if it were 5 enacted as part of the Constitution, prohibit 6 and stop such practice, for instance, when the 7 Urban Development Corporation issued bonds in 8 order to purchase a prison from the state of 9 New York and the proceeds of that bond issue, 10 or, rather, the purchase price for the prison as 11 turned over to the state was used to meet its 12 current obligations. 13 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Yes, it 14 would. It would prevent the state from entering 15 into an agreement when the consequence of the 16 agreement was that they would have to make 17 interest payments that were not authorized by 18 the voters pursuant to the state Constitution. 19 This is a change in the state 20 Finance Law; it's not a constitutional 21 amendment. As I've said all along, we alone 22 have the power to ban back door borrowing. 23 SENATOR LEICHTER: Mr. President, 4011 1 if the Senator would continue to yield. 2 So, my understanding is that - 3 would it ban the New York State Power Authority 4 from going out and raising moneys by the 5 issuance of bonds? 6 SENATOR DOLLINGER: Without 7 voter approval in instances in which the state 8 of New York is actually entering into the 9 agreement, correct. 10 SENATOR LEICHTER: Okay. So, I 11 understand. 12 Mr. President, just very briefly 13 on the amendment. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 15 Leichter, on the amendment. 16 SENATOR LEICHTER: Essentially, 17 then, what the amendment does, and I didn't 18 understand it at first because I thought it went 19 beyond that and was a constitutional amendment, 20 but certainly I don't think anybody can disagree 21 with Senator Dollinger that some of the 22 practices that we've engaged in where the state 23 of New York has used the credit of various 4012 1 authorities to raise moneys in a way that has 2 been universally condemned by all the fiscal 3 monitors and where we have obligated the state 4 to make these payments for many years in 5 advance, where real moneys is raised in a 6 manner that should be done under the 7 constitutional provision but we really use an 8 authority as the state's alter ego, so I would 9 certainly hope that the members of the other 10 side of the aisle who like to get up and talk 11 about fiscal responsibility and being fiscal 12 conservatives, you get a wonderful chance to 13 prove it by supporting this amendment. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Any other 15 Senator wishing to speak on the Amendment? 16 (There was no response.) 17 Hearing none, the question is on 18 the amendment. A vote in the affirmative is a 19 vote for the amendment to amend the bill on the 20 floor. A vote in the negative is a vote to 21 defeat the amendment. 22 All those in favor of the 23 amendment, signify by saying aye. 4013 1 (Response of "Aye.") 2 All those opposed, signify by 3 saying nay. 4 (Response of "Nay.") 5 The amendment is lost. 6 Is there any other Senator 7 wishing to speak on the bill? 8 SENATOR FARLEY: Read the last 9 section. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 11 will read the last section. 12 THE SECRETARY: Section 4. This 13 act shall take effect immediately. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 15 roll. 16 (The Secretary called the roll.) 17 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 55. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 19 is passed. 20 Senator Skelos, there is just one 21 bill left on the controversial. 22 SENATOR SKELOS: If we could take 23 up Senator Holland's bill, Calendar Number 407. 4014 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 2 will read Calendar Number 407. 3 THE SECRETARY: Calendar 4 Number 407, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 5 5072B, an act to permit the reopening of the 6 optional 20-year retirement plan. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There is 8 a home rule message at the desk. 9 Secretary will read the last 10 section. 11 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 12 act shall take effect immediately. 13 SENATOR PATERSON: Explanation. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: An 15 explanation has been asked for. 16 SENATOR HOLLAND: Senator, this 17 bill has already passed, and because there was a 18 mistake in the bill, the Social Security Law 19 states that it must be filed within one year 20 after the Comptroller is elected to office, and 21 the bill said December 31st, 1995; it must be 22 changed to December 31st, 1996. 23 The Village understands that they 4015 1 made the mistake, they put the $17,000 up, they 2 gave us a home rule, they agree totally. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Any other 4 Senator wishing to speak on the bill? 5 (There was no response.) 6 Secretary will read the last 7 section. 8 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 9 act shall take effect immediately. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 11 roll. 12 (The Secretary called the roll.) 13 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 55. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 15 is passed. 16 Senator Gold, why do you wise? 17 SENATOR GOLD: Mr. President, 18 while I was out of room, we voted on Calendar 19 Number 612, Senate Bill 773. I would like 20 unanimous consent to be recorded in the 21 negative, please. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 23 objection, hearing no objection, Senator Gold 4016 1 will be recorded in the negative on Calendar 2 Number 612. 3 Senator Leichter. 4 SENATOR LEICHTER: Mr. 5 President, I similarly was at a meeting of the 6 Finance Committee while 612 was voted on. Would 7 the record please show that I should be recorded 8 in the negative on that bill. 9 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 10 objection, hearing no objection, Senator 11 Leichter will be recorded in the negative on 12 Calendar Number 612. 13 Senator Mendez. 14 SENATOR MENDEZ: Mr. President, I 15 also was in a Finance Committee meeting when the 16 bill was called for a vote. I want to be 17 recorded in the negative on Bill Number - 18 Calendar Number 612, 612. 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 20 objection, hearing no objection, Senator Mendez 21 will be recorded in the negative on Calendar 22 Number 612. 23 Senator Skelos. 4017 1 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 2 at this time if we could return to reports of 3 standing committees, I believe there is a 4 report of the Finance Committee at the desk. I 5 ask that it be read. 6 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: We'll 7 return to reports of standing committees. There 8 is a report here, Senator Skelos. I'll ask the 9 Secretary to read. 10 THE SECRETARY: Senator Stafford, 11 from the Committee on Finance, reports the 12 following bills direct to third reading. 13 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 14 could you just wait a minute, please? 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 16 Skelos. 17 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 18 if we could have the report of the Finance 19 Committee at this time. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 21 will read the report of the Finance Committee 22 which is at the desk. 23 THE SECRETARY: Senator Stafford, 4018 1 from the Committee on Finance, reports the 2 following bills direct to third reading: 3 Senate Print 7468, by the 4 Committee on Rules, an act to amend Chapter 989 5 of the Laws of 1958 relating to the Temporary 6 State Commission of Investigation; 7 Senate Print 7476, by Senator 8 Marchi, an act to amend the New York City 9 Criminal Court Act, in relation to the 10 jurisdiction of the New York City Criminal 11 Court. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 13 objection, the bills are reported directly to 14 third reading. 15 Senator Skelos. 16 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, I 17 believe the bills are being distributed and at 18 this time, may we please take up Calendar Number 19 808, Senate Print 7468. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 21 will read. 22 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 23 808, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 4019 1 Print 7468, an act to amend Chapter 989 of the 2 Laws of 1958 relating to the Temporary State 3 Commission of Investigation. 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 5 will read the last section. 6 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 7 act shall take effect immediately. 8 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 9 roll. 10 (The Secretary called the roll.) 11 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 55. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 13 is passed. 14 Senator Skelos. 15 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 16 at this time may we please take up Calendar 809, 17 Senate 7476. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 19 will read. 20 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 21 809, by Senator Marchi, Senate Print 7476, an 22 act to amend the New York City Criminal Court 23 Act, in relation to the jurisdiction of the New 4020 1 York City Criminal Court. 2 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Read the 3 last section. 4 THE SECRETARY: Section 2. This 5 Act shall take effect immediately. 6 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 7 roll. 8 (The Secretary called the roll.) 9 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 55. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 11 is passed. 12 Senator Skelos. 13 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 14 if we could stand at ease. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 16 Senate will stand at ease. 17 (The Senate stood at ease from 18 3:46 p.m. To 4:34 p.m.) 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senate 20 will come to order. 21 Chair recognizes Senator Skelos. 22 SENATOR SKELOS: Would you please 23 recognize Senator Stafford, the esteemed 4021 1 chairman of the Finance Committee? 2 SENATOR STAFFORD: Thank you, Mr. 3 President. 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 5 Stafford. 6 SENATOR STAFFORD: Thank you, 7 Senator Skelos. Please announce a meeting of 8 the Committee on Finance in Room 332. 9 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There 10 will be an immediate meeting of the Senate 11 Finance Committee in the Majority Conference 12 Room, Room 332. Immediate meeting of the Senate 13 Finance Committee, Majority Conference Room, 14 Room 332. 15 Senator Wright. 16 SENATOR WRIGHT: Thank you, Mr. 17 President. 18 On page number 25, I offer the 19 following amendments to Calendar Number 538, 20 Senate Print Number 5766A, and ask that said 21 bill retain its place on the Third Reading 22 Calendar. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Amendments 4022 1 are received and adopted. The bill will retain 2 its place on the Third Reading Calendar. 3 Senator Skelos. 4 SENATOR SKELOS: Can we stand at 5 ease, Mr. President? 6 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 7 Senate will stand at ease. 8 (The Senate stood at ease from 9 4:35 p.m. to 5:23 p.m.) 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senate 11 will come to order. 12 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President. 13 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 14 Skelos. 15 SENATOR SKELOS: There will be an 16 immediate conference of the Majority in Room 332 17 of the Capitol, and we expect that we will be 18 back by approximately ten to six. 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There 20 will be an immediate meeting of the Majority in 21 the Majority Conference Room, Room 332. There 22 will be an immediate meeting of the Majority in 23 the Majority Conference Room, Room 332, and the 4023 1 Senate stands at ease. 2 (The Senate stood at ease from 3 5:24 p.m. to 6:33 p.m.) 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The 5 Senate will come to order. 6 Senator Skelos. 7 SENATOR SKELOS: There will be an 8 immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in 9 Room 332 of the Capitol. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Immediate 11 meeting of the Senate Finance Committee in the 12 Majority Conference Room. Immediate meeting of 13 Senate Finance Committee in the Majority 14 Conference Room, Room 332. 15 Senator Skelos. 16 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 17 if we could return to reports of standing 18 committees, I believe there's a report of the 19 Finance Committee at the desk. I ask it be read 20 at this time. 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Return to 22 reports of standing committees, ask the 23 Secretary to read the report. 4024 1 THE SECRETARY: Senator Stafford, 2 from the Committee on Finance, reports the 3 following bill direct to third reading: 4 Senate Print 7481, by the Senate 5 Committee on Rules, an act making appropri 6 ations for the support of government. 7 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 8 is reported directly to third reading. 9 Senator Skelos. 10 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, I 11 move we adopt the report of the Finance 12 Committee. 13 At this time, if we can call up 14 Calendar Number 810, Senate 7481. 15 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 16 will read Calendar Number 810. 17 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 18 810, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 19 Print 7481, an act making appropriations for the 20 support of government. 21 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 22 is there a message of necessary and appropri 23 ation at the desk? 4025 1 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There is. 2 THE SECRETARY: Move we accept. 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Motion 4 is to accept the message of necessity and 5 appropriation which is at the desk. All those 6 in favor, signify by saying aye. 7 (Response of "Aye.") 8 Opposed nay. 9 (There was no response.) 10 The message is accepted. 11 SENATOR SKELOS: Lay the bill 12 aside temporarily. 13 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Lay the 14 bill aside. 15 Senator Waldon. 16 SENATOR WALDON: Mr. President, I 17 respectfully request unanimous consent to be 18 recorded in the negative on Calendar Number 612; 19 I was called out of the house. 20 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 21 objection, hearing no objection, Senator Waldon 22 will be recorded in the negative on Calendar 23 Number 612. 4026 1 Senate will stand at ease. 2 (The Senate stood at ease from 3 6:35 to 6:40 p.m.) 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senate 5 will come to order. 6 Senator Skelos. 7 SENATOR SKELOS: If we once again 8 could return to reports of standing committees, 9 I believe there is a report of the Finance 10 Committee at the desk, I ask it be read. 11 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 12 will read. 13 THE SECRETARY: Senator Stafford, 14 from the Committee on Finance, reports the 15 following bill direct to third reading: 16 Senate Print 7477, by the Senate 17 Committee on Rules, an act making appropri 18 ations for the support of government. 19 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 20 objection, the bill is reported directly to 21 third reading. 22 Senator Skelos. 23 SENATOR SKELOS: Mr. President, 4027 1 is there a message of necessity and appropri 2 ation at the desk? 3 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: There is a 4 message of appropriation at the desk. 5 SENATOR SKELOS: Move we accept. 6 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Motion to 7 accept the message of appropriation that's at 8 the desk. All in favor signify by saying aye. 9 (Response of aye.) 10 Opposed nay. 11 (There was no response.) 12 The message is accepted. 13 Senator Lachman, why do you rise? 14 SENATOR LACHMAN: Yes. While I 15 was out, Mr. President, I think 612 was voted 16 on. I would like to be recorded for a nay vote 17 on that. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 19 objection, hearing no objection, Senator Lachman 20 will be recorded in the negative on Calendar 21 612. 22 SENATOR SEWARD: Mr. President. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Chair 4028 1 recognizes Senator Seward. 2 SENATOR SEWARD: While we're on 3 housekeeping, I wish to call up Senate Print 4 1865B. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Return to 6 motions and resolutions. Secretary will read. 7 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 8 425, by member of the Assembly Colman, Assembly 9 Print 1865B, an act to amend the Executive Law, 10 in relation to energy purchasing programs of the 11 state. 12 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 13 Seward. 14 SENATOR SEWARD: I now move to 15 reconsider the vote by which this Assembly bill 16 was substituted for my bill, 5729A, on March 17 13th. 18 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 19 will call the roll on reconsideration. 20 (The Secretary called the roll 21 on reconsideration.) 22 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 58. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator 4029 1 Seward. 2 SENATOR SEWARD: I now move 3 Senate Bill Number 3729A be restored to the 4 order of Third Reading Calendar. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The Senate 6 bill will be restored to third reading. 7 Senator Bruno. 8 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, 9 can we at this time call up Calendar Number 810. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 11 will read Calendar Number 810. 12 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 13 810, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 14 Print 7481, an act making appropriations for the 15 support of government. 16 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Message 17 of necessity and appropriation was previously 18 accepted. 19 Secretary will read the last 20 section. 21 THE SECRETARY: Section 13. This 22 act shall take effect April 1. 23 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 4030 1 roll. 2 (The Secretary called the roll.) 3 THE SECRETARY: Ayes 58. 4 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 5 is passed. 6 Senator Bruno. 7 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, 8 can we, at this time, take up Calendar Number 9 811. 10 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Secretary 11 will read Calendar Number 811. 12 THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number 13 811, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 14 Print 7477, an act making appropriations for the 15 support of government. 16 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Message 17 of appropriation was previously accepted. 18 Secretary will read the last 19 section. 20 THE SECRETARY: Section 7. This 21 act shall take effect April 1st. 22 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Call the 23 roll. 4031 1 (The Secretary called the roll.) 2 Announce the results when 3 tabulated. 4 For the benefit of the members, 5 Calendar Number -- excuse me, Senate Bill 7477, 6 it's Calendar Number 811 that is before the 7 house on a roll call. 8 THE SECRETARY: Those recorded in 9 the negative on Calendar Number 811 are Senators 10 Alesi, DeFrancisco, DiCarlo, Dollinger, Hoblock, 11 Hoffmann, Kuhl, Libous, Maziarz, Nozzolio, 12 Oppenheimer and Senator Wright. 13 Ayes 46, Nays 12. 14 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: The bill 15 is passed. 16 Senator Bruno. 17 SENATOR BRUNO: Mr. President, is 18 there anything at the desk that presently needs 19 the attention of our colleagues here in the 20 chamber? 21 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: It's all 22 been taken care of, Senator. 23 SENATOR BRUNO: All been taken 4032 1 care of? There being no further business, then, 2 to come before the Senate, I would move that we 3 stand adjourned until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. 4 Thank you. 5 ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Without 6 objection, the Senate stands adjourned until 7 tomorrow, April 30th, at 2:00 p.m. 8 (Whereupon at 6:47 p.m., the 9 Senate adjourned.) 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23