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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    June 9, 2021

11                     12:59 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR ROXANNE J. PERSAUD, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Tuesday, 

16    June 8, 2021, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, June 7, 

18    2021, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skoufis 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 4913A and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill 1878B, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 301.  

 5                 Senator Kaplan moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Investigations and 

 7    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 1108A 

 8    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 9    4704A, Third Reading Calendar 473.

10                 Senator Hoylman moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill 

12    Number 2199 and substitute it for the identical 

13    Senate Bill 473, Third Reading Calendar 524.

14                 Senator Brooks moves to discharge, 

15    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

16    6767A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

17    Bill 4562A, Third Reading Calendar 752.

18                 Senator Kaminsky moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Energy and 

20    Telecommunications, Assembly Bill Number 585A and 

21    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

22    4281A, Third Reading Calendar 849.

23                 Senator Parker moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Energy and 

25    Telecommunications, Assembly Bill Number 6436 and 


                                                               4768

 1    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 5062, 

 2    Third Reading Calendar 850.

 3                 Senator Sanders moves to discharge, 

 4    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 5    Number 430 and substitute it for the identical 

 6    Senate Bill 2628, Third Reading Calendar 965.

 7                 Senator SepĂșlveda moves to 

 8    discharge, from the Committee on Health, Assembly 

 9    Bill Number 1523 and substitute it for the 

10    identical Senate Bill 2212, Third Reading 

11    Calendar 1035.

12                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

13    from the Committee on Corporations, Authorities 

14    and Commissions, Assembly Bill Number 6971 and 

15    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

16    6257A, Third Reading Calendar 1074.

17                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

18    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

19    Number 268A and substitute it for the identical 

20    Senate Bill 6267A, Third Reading Calendar 1079.

21                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Higher Education, Assembly 

23    Bill Number 3523A and substitute it for the 

24    identical Senate Bill 1662B, Third Reading 

25    Calendar 1130.


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 1                 Senator Myrie moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 3    6769 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 4    Bill 282, Third Reading Calendar 1213.

 5                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Elections, Assembly Bill 

 7    Number 6046 and substitute it for the identical 

 8    Senate Bill 6379, Third Reading Calendar 1352.  

 9                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

10    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

11    Number 4186B and substitute it for the identical 

12    Senate Bill 6395A, Third Reading Calendar 1353.

13                 Senator Gianaris moves to discharge, 

14    from the Committee on Elections, Assembly Bill 

15    Number 6047A and substitute it for the identical 

16    Senate Bill 6429, Third Reading Calendar 1354.

17                 Senator Myrie moves to discharge, 

18    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

19    Number 6970A and substitute it for the identical 

20    Senate Bill 6482B, Third Reading Calendar 1356.

21                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

23    Number 2296 and substitute it for the identical 

24    Senate Bill 5160B, Third Reading Calendar 1448.

25                 Senator Brisport moves to discharge, 


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 1    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 2    7713 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 3    Bill 7033, Third Reading Calendar 1587.

 4                 Senator Ortt moves to discharge, 

 5    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 6    7816 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 7    Bill 7060, Third Reading Calendar 1588.

 8                 Senator Bailey moves to discharge, 

 9    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

10    7601 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

11    Bill 7172, Third Reading Calendar 1603.

12                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

13    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

14    8012 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

15    Bill 7187, Third Reading Calendar 1610.

16                 Senator Ramos moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Social Services, Assembly 

18    Bill Number 3331 and substitute it for the 

19    identical Senate Bill 924, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 1619.

21                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Agriculture, Assembly Bill 

23    Number 735 and substitute it for the identical 

24    Senate Bill 3152A, Third Reading Calendar 1630.

25                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 


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 1    from the Committee on Consumer Protection, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 3173 and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill 3764, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 1632.

 5                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Energy and 

 7    Telecommunications, Assembly Bill Number 949 and 

 8    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 3789, 

 9    Third Reading Calendar 1633.

10                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

12    2202 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

13    Bill 4060, Third Reading Calendar 1634.

14                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

15    the Committee on Local Government, Assembly Bill 

16    Number 3034 and substitute it for the identical 

17    Senate Bill 4432, Third Reading Calendar 1637.

18                 Senator Mannion moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

20    898B and substitute it for the identical Senate 

21    Bill 4467B, Third Reading Calendar 1638.

22                 Senator Reichlin-Melnick moves to 

23    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

24    Assembly Bill Number 6014A and substitute it for 

25    the identical Senate Bill 4849A, Third Reading 


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 1    Calendar 1641.

 2                 Senator Palumbo moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 4    6426 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 5    Bill 5750, Third Reading Calendar 1647.

 6                 Senator Sanders moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 8    3967 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 9    Bill 6230, Third Reading Calendar 1650.

10                 Senator Kennedy moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill 

12    Number 6968 and substitute it for the identical 

13    Senate Bill 6234, Third Reading Calendar 1651.

14                 Senator Gaughran moves to discharge, 

15    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

16    7209 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

17    Bill 6323, Third Reading Calendar 1652.

18                 Senator Breslin moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

20    7237 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

21    Bill 6441, Third Reading Calendar 1653.

22                 Senator Kaplan moves to discharge, 

23    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

24    7240 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

25    Bill 6542, Third Reading Calendar 1656.


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 1                 Senator Breslin moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 3    7520A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 4    Bill 6555A, Third Reading Calendar 1657.

 5                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Local Government, Assembly 

 7    Bill Number 7038A and substitute it for the 

 8    identical Senate Bill 6654B, Third Reading 

 9    Calendar 1660.

10                 Senator Kavanagh moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

12    7564 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

13    Bill 6815, Third Reading Calendar 1665.

14                 Senator Kennedy moves to discharge, 

15    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

16    7567A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

17    Bill 6850A, Third Reading Calendar 1667.

18                 Senator Kavanagh moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

20    4587A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

21    Bill 6877, Third Reading Calendar 1669.

22                 Senator Breslin moves to discharge, 

23    from the Committee on Insurance, Assembly Bill 

24    Number 3516 and substitute it for the identical 

25    Senate Bill 7075, Third Reading Calendar 1672.  


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 1                 And Senator Hinchey moves to 

 2    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, Assembly 

 3    Bill Number 7870A and substitute it for the 

 4    identical Senate Bill Number 7083A, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 1673.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 

 7    substitutions so ordered.

 8                 Messages from the Governor.

 9                 Reports of standing committees.

10                 Reports of select committees.

11                 Communications and reports from 

12    state officers.

13                 Motions and resolutions.

14                 Senator Gianaris.  

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 We're going to simultaneously have a 

18    Rules Committee meeting and take up some of the 

19    resolutions that were previously adopted.

20                 So let's begin with Resolution 998, 

21    by Senator Bailey, read its title only and 

22    recognize Senator Bailey, after you call an 

23    immediate meeting of the Committee on Rules in 

24    Room 332.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There 


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 1    will be an immediate meeting of the 

 2    Rules Committee in Room 332.

 3                 The Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

 5    998, by Senator Bailey, memorializing Governor 

 6    Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim June 2021 as 

 7    African-American Music Appreciation Month in the 

 8    State of New York.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

10    Bailey on the resolution.

11                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 And thank the leader for permitting 

14    us to once again do what I believe is an 

15    incredibly important resolution.  

16                 And, Madam President, it's great 

17    when you preside, but usually you'd be down here, 

18    you'd be able to contribute to our conversation 

19    about African-American music and how critically 

20    important it is and how we celebrate it in the 

21    month of June.

22                 President Jimmy Carter, on June 7, 

23    1979, initially made it Black Music Month, and it 

24    has evolved into African-American Music 

25    Appreciation Month.  And much like the day itself 


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 1    has evolved, Black music continues to evolve.  We 

 2    know about jazz and the importance that that had 

 3    in the Harlem Renaissance.  We know about gospel 

 4    and its importance in the Black church.  We know 

 5    about hip-hop, and I'll get more about hip-hop.  

 6                 And as we all know, Madam President, 

 7    other boroughs and places say that they think 

 8    that they've perfected it, but we know where 

 9    hip-hop started, and that's in God's country, the 

10    Boogie-Down Bronx.

11                 But, you know, when I think about 

12    Black culture and I think about Black music, it's 

13    part of our story.  It is part of what has been 

14    able to push us through tough times.  In periods 

15    of enslavement, in periods of civil rights, in 

16    periods of civil discourse and strife, music was 

17    there for Black folks to be motivated by.  And it 

18    has helped us shape, music has helped shape 

19    culture, and not just Black culture.

20                 Now, if you think about rap, the 

21    late great Notorious B.I.G. once said:  "You 

22    never thought that hip-hop would take it this 

23    far."  And that's accurate.  We never thought 

24    that we'd see hip-hop in mainstream TV 

25    commercials.  We never thought that we'd see a 


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 1    Snoop Dogg and a Bad Bunny in a commercial 

 2    promoting mainstream goods.

 3                 Hip-hop has done amazing things.  

 4    And hip-hop is going to be doing something even 

 5    more amazing.  Madam President, as I mentioned, 

 6    the birthplace of hip-hop -- and I was lucky 

 7    enough to go to the groundbreaking of the 

 8    Universal Hip-Hop Museum.  And for something that 

 9    is a great art form, for something that was born 

10    and raised in America, born and raised in 

11    New York State, born and raised in the Bronx, we 

12    finally have a museum opening on or about -- in 

13    2025, which will be incredibly interactive.  

14                 It will be a destination point so 

15    people will not only just come to the City of 

16    New York, they'll come to the Borough of the 

17    Bronx, and they'll learn about hip-hop.  They'll 

18    learn about its foundations at 1520 Sedgwick 

19    Avenue, the beginning, in my good colleague 

20    Senator Serrano's district.  They'll learn about 

21    Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash and Afrika 

22    Bambaataa and KRS-One.  

23                 And they'll learn about the hip-hop 

24    legends from my district:  The great Slick Rick, 

25    Slick Rick "The Ruler," as it would be, one of my 


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 1    constituents.  One of my late great constituents, 

 2    the great Dwight Myers, Heavy D, an incredible 

 3    artist in his own right.  Mount Vernon's own Pete 

 4    Rock and C.L. Smooth.  Jeff Redd.  Al B. Sure!  

 5    The list goes on and on about people who are from 

 6    my district who have contributed greatly to Black 

 7    culture and Black music.

 8                 Chuck Chillout, DJ Chuck Chillout 

 9    and DJ Funkmaster Flex, and so many other people 

10    who are, again, from the neighborhood who are 

11    making impacts on a global business of hip-hop, 

12    on the global business of hip-hop music.

13                 And I think about, when it comes to 

14    African-American culture, the ingenuity of being 

15    able to take something old and make it new again.  

16    And that's something that we've been able to do 

17    in hip-hop culture.  You've been able to take 

18    soul music and either speed it up or slow it down 

19    and sample the music so that the next generation 

20    can hear some of the music, so that it continues 

21    to live on.  

22                 And you think about the 

23    Isley Brothers and you think about Earth, Wind 

24    and Fire, and you think about all of these 

25    incredible groups.  So many of the folks my age 


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 1    who were not born when they were in their heyday, 

 2    we hear the music not just in its original form 

 3    but in its sampled form via hip-hop.

 4                 And that takes me to something 

 5    that's been happening as a result of the 

 6    pandemic, but it is one of these situations where 

 7    we take tragedy and turn it into triumph.  The 

 8    series of Verzuz, which was created by 

 9    Swizz Beatz and Timbaland, an online platform 

10    where musical legends are able to appear now in 

11    the same room or via virtual video chats, and 

12    they're able to play some of their catalogs 

13    virtually for their fans.  We know about the 

14    Teddy Riley vs. Babyface sound debacle.  It was 

15    one of the most interesting things that happened 

16    with Babyface.  We know about the Beenie Man 

17    Verzuz, live from Jamaica.  We know about the 

18    Patti LaBelle Verzuz.  

19                 And the most recent Verzuz that was 

20    on my mind was Earth, Wind and Fire vs. The Isley 

21    Brothers, and when you got to hear, and hear some 

22    of the stories about the culture and about how 

23    they arrived at these moments.  And there's 

24    something endearing about that culture and where 

25    music takes you.


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 1                 Madam President, as I close, I think 

 2    about what music does for all of us.  When we're 

 3    listening to music, we're not necessarily in a 

 4    partisan spirit.  We're not talking about 

 5    Democrats versus Republicans.  When we all hear a 

 6    good song, we all sing a good song.  

 7                 And the unifying purpose, the 

 8    unifying point of Black music is something that 

 9    is incredibly critical, and it's been really 

10    important in part of my evolution as an 

11    African-American man.  So I am grateful once 

12    again to the leader for permitting this 

13    resolution to come to the floor.  And every year, 

14    as long as I'm able, I will extol the virtues of 

15    African-American Music Month.  

16                 And I invite everybody within the 

17    sound of my voice, as soon as the Hip-Hop Museum 

18    is started, you've got to come on down to the 

19    Boogie-Down Bronx and check us out, 

20    Madam President.  

21                 Thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

23    you.

24                 The resolution was previously 

25    adopted on June 2nd.


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 1                 Senator Serrano.

 2                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

 3    Madam President.  

 4                 Now I'd like us to take up 

 5    previously adopted Resolution 1119, by 

 6    Senator Harckham, read the resolution title only, 

 7    and recognize Senator Harckham on the resolution.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

11    1119, by Senator Harckham, congratulating 

12    Paul Gallay upon the occasion of his retirement 

13    after 11 years of dedicated service as President 

14    of Riverkeeper, New York's Clean Water Advocate.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Harckham on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  It's a pleasure to see you up 

19    there.  

20                 I'd like to thank the Majority 

21    Leader, first of all, for bringing this 

22    resolution to the floor, and thank all of our 

23    colleagues for supporting this resolution 

24    congratulating a very important environmental 

25    figure in New York State and in the Hudson 


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 1    Valley, Paul Gallay, upon his retirement as the 

 2    president of Riverkeeper, which is New York's 

 3    clean water advocate.

 4                 Paul has been an advocate for the 

 5    environment, he's been an enforcement official 

 6    for nearly 30 years, and has been a dedicated 

 7    public servant to the people of New York State 

 8    and to the Hudson Valley.

 9                 So Paul earned his bachelor's degree 

10    from Williams College and his law degree from 

11    Columbia Law School.  He then worked in private 

12    practice for a number of years.  But his focused 

13    environmental work really began when he went to 

14    work for the New York State Attorney General in 

15    1987, where he served for four years.  

16                 And then for the next decade Paul 

17    worked with the New York State Department of 

18    Environmental Conservation.  And it was there 

19    that he held hundreds of corporate and government 

20    polluters accountable and spent the next 10 years 

21    in land conservation.  And that's originally 

22    where our paths intersected.  I was a Westchester 

23    County legislator, and Paul was the head of the 

24    Westchester Land Trust.

25                 But it was then in 2010 when Paul 


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 1    was hired by Riverkeeper to be its president.  

 2    And in this capacity, this was really where Paul 

 3    stood out and made his mark on New York State 

 4    environmental policy.  He continually strived to 

 5    fulfill Riverkeeper's mission of protecting and 

 6    restoring the Hudson River from source to sea, 

 7    and safeguarded drinking water supplies for over 

 8    10 million New Yorkers.

 9                 And as somebody whose district 

10    encompasses the East of Hudson New York City 

11    watershed, that was such vital work, such smart 

12    policy work, and I was really proud to have 

13    worked with him over those years on those issues.

14                 Paul was especially good at bringing 

15    people together, collaboration -- stakeholders 

16    from different parts of the community, even 

17    different parts of an issue, people who were 

18    diametrically opposed in their issues.  Paul was 

19    very gifted and patient at working with 

20    everybody.

21                 Under Paul's leadership, 

22    Riverkeeper, the team of more than 90 

23    environmental leaders, expanded their 

24    groundbreaking water quality testing program to 

25    include hundreds of new sites, and they developed 


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 1    New York's largest shoreline cleanup and 

 2    restoration program.  They established the first 

 3    ever Hudson River Dam Removal Initiative and 

 4    helped pass transformative legislation to protect 

 5    our communities, coastal communities and 

 6    ecosystems from climate change.

 7                 In 2007, Paul was at the center of 

 8    the successful negotiation to close the Indian 

 9    Point Nuclear Power Plant.  

10                 He lobbied for billions in 

11    infrastructure funding and fought tirelessly for 

12    the New York State landmark 2014 ban on 

13    hydrofracking.

14                 He was also very central to the laws 

15    that we passed yesterday, our clean water 

16    wetlands bill, and last year our Class C streams 

17    protection bill, both historic measures in 

18    New York State, and both have the mark of 

19    Riverkeeper's leadership and collaboration and 

20    stakeholders coming together to pass that 

21    legislation right here in this chamber.

22                 So we are grateful for Paul's 

23    30-year commitment to environmental policy and 

24    environmental stewardship, but it's important to 

25    know that Mr. Gallay is not retiring 


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 1    completely -- it's just not in his DNA.  Academia 

 2    still looms large in his future, as is his 

 3    commitment to tackling climate change and 

 4    resilience in our coastal communities.

 5                 So I'm pleased to say that Paul will 

 6    still be around, will still be working hard.  But 

 7    we wanted to take this opportunity to thank him 

 8    for his 30-plus-year commitment to public service 

 9    and his very successful 11-year run as president 

10    of Riverkeeper.

11                 Thank you, Madam President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 The resolution was previously 

15    adopted on June 8th.

16                 Senator Serrano.

17                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  Let's please take up previously 

19    adopted Resolution 1031, by Senator Hinchey, read 

20    that resolution title only, and recognize Senator 

21    Hinchey on the resolution.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    Secretary will read.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

25    1031, by Senator Hinchey, mourning the death of 


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 1    Tommy Keegan, beloved Hudson Valley craft brewing 

 2    pioneer and pillar of the community.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Hinchey on the resolution.

 5                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  

 7                 Tommy Keegan, an esteemed resident 

 8    of Kingston, New York, and a beloved Hudson 

 9    Valley brewing pioneer, died on Friday, April 30, 

10    2021, at the age of 50.  In a future dictionary, 

11    next to the phrase "community-minded," there will 

12    be a picture of Tommy Keegan.  

13                 A dedicated family man and an 

14    immediate friend to all, Tommy dedicated his life 

15    to bringing joy to those around him.

16                 Tommy might as well have been the 

17    grandfather of craft beer, pioneering the 

18    industry in the Northeast well before it gained 

19    notoriety, and back when it was only known as 

20    microbrews.  He opened Keegan Ales in the heart 

21    of Kingston in 2003, quickly turning it into a 

22    community hub and a cornerstone of the region.  

23                 His award-winning beers are known 

24    nationwide, and his entrepreneurial spirit led 

25    him to some of the most unique and interesting 


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 1    partnerships, like the one with IHOP, making a 

 2    pumpkin pancake stout.  

 3                 Tommy was a man of many passions, 

 4    but his love for the outdoors, especially when on 

 5    his motorcycle, was a special one.  His 

 6    environmentalism, a passion sharpened by his 

 7    years of service in the U.S. Coast Guard, was 

 8    always at the forefront of his volunteer efforts.  

 9                 He was steadfast in his advocacy for 

10    local environmental and agricultural groups like 

11    Riverkeeper and Rondout Valley Growers, both 

12    philanthropically and by donating beer for their 

13    events -- which is, we know, the best kind of 

14    support.  

15                 Always thinking of others, he was a 

16    champion for similarly community-focused 

17    organizations like Angel Food East, People's 

18    Place, the O+ Festival, and the Ulster County 

19    Chamber of Commerce.  And he ensured Keegan Ales 

20    always gave back through creative ways, including 

21    his efforts to support one charity every week.  

22                 Tommy loved his community and 

23    strived to make it a better place for all, and 

24    always generously opened his door for any 

25    community need or event.  He will be dearly 


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 1    missed by all who knew him, but he left us with 

 2    some great advice.  We should all try to live by 

 3    his mantra:  "Have fun, play nice."  

 4                 Thank you, Madam President.  And I 

 5    thank the chamber for bringing up this 

 6    resolution.  Thank you very much.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    Palumbo on the resolution.

 9                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

10    Madam President, for allowing me to rise and 

11    speak on this resolution.

12                 Tommy Keegan was a childhood friend.  

13    He was a week older than me.  Tommy's 

14    grandparents grew up next door to my 

15    grandparents.  His father, a local lawyer down on 

16    Long Island, was our Boy Scout leader.

17                 So you know when you have those 

18    groups of friends where you know people from 

19    school and from high school?  And we went to 

20    Catholic school together, and then we went to 

21    high school together.  You've got that one group, 

22    the core group of a handful of people.  Well, 

23    Tommy was in my core group.  We've known each 

24    other since before we were born, basically.

25                 And I'd like to commend and thank 


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 1    Senator Hinchey for bringing up this resolution, 

 2    because one of the last texts I received from 

 3    Tommy was during the campaign this past fall, in 

 4    October, of he and Senator Hinchey, with his arm 

 5    around Senator Hinchey, saying "This is going to 

 6    be one of your colleagues, so be nice to her."  I 

 7    told him he's not supposed to be voting for 

 8    Democrats but, you know, that's a different 

 9    story.

10                 And "Have fun, play nice" as his 

11    slogan emulates Tommy's life.  He was on his 

12    motorcycle when he passed.  We used to ride dirt 

13    bikes as kids in the woods and in the sumps, and 

14    he would call this his espresso machine.  This 

15    was how he got his excitement in life, and it was 

16    something that he absolutely loved.

17                 He would make a joke at anyone's 

18    expense during his life, including his own.  And 

19    he was always a kind and philanthropic 

20    individual.  So his contributions to the City of 

21    Kingston -- I didn't realize the extent of it 

22    until actually we were up for his memorial 

23    service a few weeks ago, and Senator Hinchey and 

24    I attended it.  And it was really not surprising, 

25    knowing the kind of kid he was and the kind of 


                                                               4790

 1    adult and man and father.

 2                 So I'm honored to stand here and 

 3    commemorate my friend because his contributions 

 4    to this state, the City of Kingston, and the 

 5    people that knew him will loom large for 

 6    generations to come.  We miss you, buddy.

 7                 Thank you, Madam President.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator.  

10                 The resolution was previously 

11    adopted on June 8th.

12                 Senator Gianaris.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now let's take 

14    up previously adopted Resolution 1138, by Senator 

15    Gaughran, read its title only, and recognize 

16    Senator Gaughran.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    Secretary will read.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

20    1138, by Senator Gaughran, commemorating the 

21    25th Anniversary of the Amistad Long Island 

22    Black Bar Association.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

24    Gaughran on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR GAUGHRAN:   Thank you, 


                                                               4791

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 Founded in 1996, the Amistad 

 3    Long Island Black Bar Association is an 

 4    illustrious organization that fosters community, 

 5    professional development and growth of attorneys 

 6    of color throughout Long Island, and it is 

 7    steadfast in its commitment to Long Island.

 8                 This includes programs at local 

 9    schools, voter registration, election protection 

10    efforts, and really most importantly, membership 

11    to young students of color entering into the 

12    legal profession.  

13                 The Amistad Black Bar Association 

14    provides a supportive network and environment for 

15    law students, judges and attorneys of color.  And 

16    this year, on the 25th anniversary of its 

17    establishment, I'm humbled to stand on this floor 

18    and recognize them.  For it was 25 years ago 

19    Robert Cox, Jr., J. Stewart Moore and Victoria 

20    Gumbs met with Suffolk County's two lone 

21    African-American judges to form an organization 

22    dedicated to racial parity and equity within our 

23    court system and society.

24                 Their efforts in the past 25 years 

25    have significantly led to an increase in 


                                                               4792

 1    diversity in judges in Suffolk County and 

 2    Nassau County and court personnel, which remains 

 3    a goal that we all continue to strive for today.

 4                 So I am privileged today to stand 

 5    here and support the accomplishments of the 

 6    Amistad Long Island Black Bar Association, and I 

 7    vote in the affirmative.

 8                 Thank you, Madam President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

10    you, Senator.

11                 The resolution was previously 

12    adopted on June 8th.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The various 

15    sponsors of the resolutions we just took up would 

16    like to open them for cosponsorship.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

19    you decide not to be a cosponsor of the 

20    resolutions, please notify the desk.

21                 Senator Gianaris.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

23    the Rules Committee report that is at the desk.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    Secretary will read.


                                                               4793

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator  

 2    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

 3    reports the following bills:

 4                 Senate Print 577, by Senator 

 5    Sanders, an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

 6                 Senate Print 1144A, by 

 7    Senator Benjamin, an act to amend the 

 8    Executive Law and the Penal Law; 

 9                 Senate Print 1277A, by 

10    Senator Krueger, an act to amend the 

11    Election Law; 

12                 Senate Print 1834A, by 

13    Senator Skoufis, an act to amend the Vehicle and 

14    Traffic Law; 

15                 Senate Print 4441, by 

16    Senator Gounardes, an act to amend the 

17    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

18                 Senate Print 4554, by 

19    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

20    Family Court Act and the Judiciary Law; 

21                 Senate Print 5246A, by 

22    Senator Kennedy, an act to amend the Banking Law; 

23                 Senate Print 5325, by 

24    Senator Hoylman, an act to amend the 

25    Public Service Law and the General Business Law; 


                                                               4794

 1                 Senate Print 5489, by Senator Brouk, 

 2    an act to amend the Education Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 5891C, by 

 4    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

 5    Education Law; 

 6                 Senate Print 6080, by Senator 

 7    Ritchie, an act authorizing the Commissioner of 

 8    General Services to convey real property at the 

 9    St. Lawrence Psychiatric Center; 

10                 Senate Print 6289A, by 

11    Senator Gaughran, an act to amend the 

12    Education Law; 

13                 Senate Print 6301A, by 

14    Senator Stavisky, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

15                 Senate Print 6431, by Senator Brouk, 

16    an act to amend the Education Law; 

17                 Senate Print 6497A, by 

18    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

19    Public Service Law; 

20                 Senate Print 6590A, by 

21    Senator Palumbo, an act in relation to 

22    authorizing the Flanders, Riverside and 

23    Northampton Community Association, Inc., to file 

24    an application for a partial exemption from real 

25    property taxes; 


                                                               4795

 1                 Senate Print 6600A, by 

 2    Senator Stavisky, an act to amend the 

 3    Education Law; 

 4                 Senate Print 6690, by 

 5    Senator Gounardes, an act to amend the 

 6    Administrative Code of the City of New York; 

 7                 Senate Print 6922, by 

 8    Senator Breslin, an act authorizing the City of 

 9    New York Bond Bank Agency to provide municipal 

10    relief to the City of Albany; 

11                 Senate Print 6957, by Senator Brouk, 

12    an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

13                 Senate Print 7011, by 

14    Senator SepĂșlveda, an act to amend the 

15    Executive Law; 

16                 Senate Print 7015, by 

17    Senator Addabbo, an act to amend the Penal Law; 

18                 Senate Print 7053A, by 

19    Senator Kennedy, an act to amend the Vehicle and 

20    Traffic Law; 

21                 Senate Print 7082, by 

22    Senator Breslin, an act to amend the 

23    Public Authorities Law;

24                 Senate Print 7110A, by 

25    Senator Thomas, an act in relation to authorizing 


                                                               4796

 1    the Town of Oyster Bay to grant Sai Mandir USA a 

 2    real property tax exemption;

 3                 Senate Print 7121, by 

 4    Senator Brooks, an act defining the term "first 

 5    responder in communications";

 6                 Senate Print 7125, by Senator Mayer, 

 7    an act to amend the County Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 7129, by 

 9    Senator Kennedy, an act to create a temporary 

10    "commission to prevent childhood drowning"; 

11                 Senate Print 7152, by 

12    Senator Brooks, an act to amend the Penal Law; 

13                 Senate Print 7154, by 

14    Senator Skoufis, an act to authorize Gina Kehoe 

15    of the Town of Montgomery to take the competitive 

16    civil service examination; 

17                 Senate Print 7167, by 

18    Senator Kaplan, an act to amend the 

19    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

20                 Senate Print 7169, by 

21    Senator Reichlin-Melnick, an act to authorize the 

22    Town of Orangetown to offer a certain retirement 

23    option to Orangetown police officers; 

24                 Senate Print 7175, by Senator Weik, 

25    an act to provide for the appeal and review of 


                                                               4797

 1    certain property tax exemption applications;

 2                 Senate Print 7220, by 

 3    Senator Savino, an act to amend the 

 4    Judiciary Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 7227, by Senator Myrie, 

 6    an act to amend the Public Officers Law; 

 7                 Senate Print 7228, by 

 8    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

 9    Criminal Procedure Law; 

10                 Senate Print 7230, by 

11    Senator Kaplan, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

12                 Senate Print 7231, by 

13    Senator Felder, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

14                 Senate Print 7232, by 

15    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

16    Civil Service Law; 

17                 Senate Print 7234, Senate Budget 

18    Bill, an act to amend Chapter 53 of the Laws of 

19    2021; 

20                 Senate Print 7237, by 

21    Senator Stewart-Cousins, an act to amend 

22    Chapter 50 of the Laws of 2021.

23                 All bills reported direct to third 

24    reading.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 


                                                               4798

 1    the report of the Rules Committee.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 

 3    those in favor of accepting the Rules Committee 

 4    report signify by saying aye.

 5                 (Response of "Aye.")

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

 7    nay.

 8                 (No response.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    Rules Committee report is accepted.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time 

13    we're going to stand at ease for just a couple of 

14    minutes while we get our affairs in order for the 

15    rest of the day.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

17    Senate will stand at ease.

18                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

19    at 1:32 p.m.)

20                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

21    1:43 p.m.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    Senate will return to order.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time, 


                                                               4799

 1    Madam President, let's take up the reading of the 

 2    calendar.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    Secretary will read.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 8, 

 6    Senate Print 1027A, by Senator Gianaris, an act 

 7    to amend the Election Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

11    act shall take effect January 1, 2022.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Jackson to explain his vote.

17                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  

19                 My colleagues, I rise this afternoon 

20    to explain my support for Bill Number S1027, 

21    sponsored by our colleague Senator Gianaris.

22                 During last year's election we 

23    witnessed many absentee ballots cast by voters 

24    during the pandemic.  Our muddled canvassing 

25    process for counting these ballots and unclear 


                                                               4800

 1    rules for curing errors significantly delayed the 

 2    election process and results in many races.

 3                 This year, once again, voters can 

 4    cite COVID-19 as a reason to use an absentee 

 5    ballot for elections.

 6                 As a member of this legislative body 

 7    entrusted to continue finding solutions that 

 8    would make our democratic process even 

 9    stronger and healthier, we can all agree that 

10    this bill will help speed up the counting of 

11    absentee, military, special and affidavit 

12    ballots.

13                 Therefore, as a legislator who 

14    values our responsibility to our constituents to 

15    ensure their votes are counted efficiently, I 

16    vote aye to prevent the lengthy delays we have 

17    experienced in the electoral results of 2020.  

18                 I vote aye, Madam President.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Senator Gianaris to explain his 

22    vote.  

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

24    Madam President.  I want to thank my colleagues 

25    for supporting this important reform of our 


                                                               4801

 1    electoral process.  

 2                 Our Majority has taken great strides 

 3    over the last three years to make voting easier 

 4    and more efficient.  We have early voting because 

 5    we passed it.  We have a process to make it 

 6    easier to vote absentee because we passed a law 

 7    to make it happen.  And now we're improving the 

 8    method by which the votes are counted so we avoid 

 9    the embarrassing situations we've seen where it 

10    takes weeks on end to get results for elections.  

11                 This bill will ensure that absentee 

12    ballots are counted beginning even the night 

13    before the election -- canvassed, I should say.  

14    The actual count won't be known until after the 

15    election is concluded.  But we should have 

16    results in nearly all cases on election night, or 

17    very shortly thereafter, which has not been the 

18    case to date.  

19                 So I am proud to reinstall 

20    transparency and confidence in our democracy by 

21    passing this bill today, and I thank my 

22    colleagues for joining me.  I vote aye.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

24    Gianaris to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Announce the results.


                                                               4802

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 8, those Senators voting in the negative 

 3    are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, Gallivan, 

 4    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

 5    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

 6    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    239, Senate Print 1103A, by Senator Kaminsky, an 

12    act to establish the bottle redemption fraud task 

13    force.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               4803

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    301, Assembly Print 4913A, substituted earlier by 

 3    Assemblymember Zebrowski, an act to amend the 

 4    Economic Development Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    336, Senate Print 2937, by Senator Kaminsky, an 

20    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4804

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 336, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

 8    Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, Oberacker, 

 9    O'Mara, Ortt, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, 

10    Tedisco and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    425, Senate Print 3822, by Senator Griffo, an act 

16    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               4805

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    473, Assembly Print 1108A, substituted earlier by 

 6    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 7    Public Officers Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    487, Senate Print 778A, by Senator Thomas, an act 

22    to amend the General Business Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               4806

 1    act shall take effect on the first of January.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 487, those Senators voting in the 

 9    negative are Senators Borrello, Helming, Jordan, 

10    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt and Rath.

11                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 7.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    520, Senate Print 4338B, by Senator Skoufis, an 

16    act to amend the Tax Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               4807

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 520, those Senators voting in the 

 3    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 4    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Martucci, 

 5    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

 6    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    524, Assembly Print 2199, substituted earlier by 

12    Assemblymember Cruz, an act to amend the 

13    Civil Practice Law and Rules.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 524, those Senators voting in the 

25    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 


                                                               4808

 1    Helming, Jordan, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rath, 

 2    Ritchie, Serino, Stec and Weik.

 3                 Ayes, 50.  Nays, 13.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    671, Senate Print 4097, by Senator Parker, an act 

 8    directing the commissioner of the Department of 

 9    Environmental Conservation to promulgate rules 

10    and regulations establishing targets for the sale 

11    of zero emissions.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

17    roll.  

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 671, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

24    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Martucci, Oberacker, 

25    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, 


                                                               4809

 1    Stec and Tedisco.

 2                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    752, Assembly Print 6767A, substituted earlier by 

 7    Assemblymember Woerner, an act to amend the 

 8    Volunteer Firefighters' Benefit Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    759, Senate Print 5877B, by Senator Gallivan, an 

23    act to amend the Village Law and the Public 

24    Officers Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               4810

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    Reichlin-Melnick to explain his vote.

 9                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Thank 

10    you very much, Madam President.  

11                 And I just wanted to sort of say for 

12    the record -- and with all respect to my 

13    colleague Senator Gallivan, who I understand has 

14    introduced this bill at the request of a 

15    community in his district -- I think it is a 

16    dangerous precedent to set for local governments, 

17    villages and towns.  

18                 Land use is one of the core reasons 

19    we have villages in this state, is to give every 

20    community that wants to establish a village the 

21    right to control what happens in their own 

22    community.  I was a former village trustee member 

23    and a former member of a village planning board, 

24    and I cannot imagine having people who live 

25    outside of a community setting critical decisions 


                                                               4811

 1    on how to implement land use policies inside a 

 2    village.  

 3                 And so for that reason, to avoid 

 4    setting this precedent, which I think is really 

 5    dangerous to the home-rule principle we have in 

 6    this state, I'll be voting no on this bill.

 7                 Thank you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Reichlin-Melnick to be recorded in the negative.

10                 Senator Mannion to explain his vote.

11                 SENATOR MANNION:   Madam President, 

12    I apologize, but I am here to speak on another 

13    bill.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

15    you, Senator.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 759, those Senators voting in the 

19    negative are Senators Brisport, Mannion, 

20    Reichlin-Melnick and Skoufis.

21                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 4.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    788, Senate Print 4730, by Senator Krueger, an 


                                                               4812

 1    act to amend the State Finance Law.

 2                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

 4    aside.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    791, Senate Print 5560A, by Senator 

 7    Reichlin-Melnick, an act to amend the 

 8    Public Health Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13 --

12                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

14    aside.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    849, Assembly Bill 585A, substituted earlier by 

17    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

18    General Business Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4813

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    850, Assembly Print 6436, substituted earlier by 

 8    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 9    Public Service Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    965, Assembly Print 430, substituted earlier by 

24    Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend the 

25    Civil Rights Law.


                                                               4814

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 965, those Senators voting in the 

13    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

14    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

15    Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

16    Ritchie, Savino, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1014, Senate Print 4817A, by Senator Krueger, an 

22    act to amend the Executive Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               4815

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1035, Assembly Print 1523, substituted earlier by 

12    Assemblymember Pretlow, an act to amend the 

13    Public Health Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1035, those Senators voting in the 

25    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 


                                                               4816

 1    Griffo, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath 

 2    and Stec.

 3                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 10.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1043, Senate Print 4078, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 8    act to establish a geoparks task force.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1050, Senate Print 613A, by Senator May, an act 

23    to amend the Election Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4817

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1050, those Senators voting in the 

10    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

11    Griffo, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, Oberacker, 

12    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Stec and Tedisco.

13                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 14.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1074, Assembly Print 6971, substituted earlier by 

18    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

19    Not-For-Profit Corporation Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4818

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1079, Assembly Print 268A, substituted earlier by 

 9    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

10    General Business Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

19    Cooney to explain his vote.

20                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President, for the opportunity to speak on 

22    an important bill that people in my district have 

23    been asking about since I took office.

24                 We all get too many of those 

25    calls -- you know the calls I'm talking about, 


                                                               4819

 1    the calls that buzz in your pocket.  In fact, 

 2    probably during this little floor speech I'm 

 3    going to have my pocket buzz, someone trying to 

 4    tell me that I have to pick up a car warranty.  

 5    What this bill does is it actually blocks those 

 6    calls, especially those that are likely 

 7    illegitimate, those calls coming perhaps from a 

 8    foreign nation.

 9                 This will not only save consumers 

10    the trouble and the hassle of those annoying 

11    calls, but will also protect vulnerable 

12    populations like our seniors, who have been 

13    targeted for scams and frauds, especially coming 

14    out of the pandemic.

15                 Let me be very clear that this 

16    legislation is aligned with the federal 

17    legislation, making sure that our 

18    telecommunications systems are not going to be 

19    overly burdened.

20                 Ultimately what we want for 

21    New Yorkers is for them to feel safe when they 

22    actually use their phones.  In fact, we want to 

23    make sure that all New Yorkers know that there is 

24    integrity in our communications systems.  This 

25    bill allows us to do that.  


                                                               4820

 1                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

 2    for her leadership in protecting consumers across 

 3    the State of New York.  I support this bill and 

 4    vote in the affirmative.  

 5                 Thank you, Madam President.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1130, Assembly Print 3523A, substituted earlier 

14    by Assemblymember Peoples-Stokes, an act to amend 

15    the Education Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect 18 months after it shall 

20    have become a law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Mannion to explain his vote.


                                                               4821

 1                 SENATOR MANNION:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.  I appreciate leadership's 

 3    efforts to make sure that this reached the floor, 

 4    and I appreciate Senator Skoufis's advocacy on 

 5    this issue.  

 6                 It is challenging to be a new parent 

 7    and even more challenging to be the parent of a 

 8    child who is exhibiting characteristics of 

 9    autism.  Children that fixate on the rotation of 

10    tires on a toy rather than playing with them 

11    appropriately.  Children who know their letters 

12    and numbers and can read at an early age, but 

13    have challenges comprehending the words in front 

14    of them.  Children who walk on their toes.  

15                 Children who are mocked by their 

16    peers and are ran away from.  Children that are 

17    overwhelmed at birthday parties as their peers 

18    play and socialize and sing.  

19                 Children who walked out the door on 

20    September 12th of 2001, looked to the sky and 

21    said "No planes."  

22                 For parents of children like that, 

23    it can seem hopeless at times.  But there is a 

24    therapy called applied behavioral analysis that 

25    was developed by Dr. Ivar Lovaas.  Those children 


                                                               4822

 1    have a voice, and it needs to be heard.  And this 

 2    therapy is not for every child or every person, 

 3    but it is highly effective in many instances.  

 4    And the New York State Department of Health rates 

 5    it with a grade of A as a therapy.

 6                 Children receive ABA therapy, some 

 7    of them as much as 40 hours a week of intensive 

 8    one-to-one intervention, often because of the 

 9    advocacy of their parents.  And often those 

10    parents are trained in this therapy.  And when 

11    providers maybe could not be there to provide 

12    that therapy, parents and other family members 

13    filled in.

14                 Some children have tremendous 

15    challenges when they start applied behavioral 

16    analysis therapy, and there could be great 

17    resistance to it.  There are situations where a 

18    child, after multiple attempts to follow a simple 

19    command -- which was "tap the table" -- that 

20    child would cry, resist, thrash.  But at one 

21    point, that child looked the person providing the 

22    therapy square in the eye and said:  "I tapped 

23    the table."  And those words meant hope for that 

24    child and his family members.

25                 And from that day forward, the 


                                                               4823

 1    skills of that child increased and their atypical 

 2    behaviors decreased.

 3                 On May 28th of 2021, that child 

 4    walked across a stage at Le Moyne College on a 

 5    cold and windy day, like the day that he was 

 6    born, and received his diploma from President 

 7    Linda LeMura, accepting his degree, a bachelor of 

 8    science in business analytics.

 9                 Everyone is not best suited to 

10    receive ABA therapy, but everyone should have the 

11    opportunity to receive ABA therapy, as occurs in 

12    30 other states in this country.  What this bill 

13    does is expands the scope of individuals who can 

14    receive this therapy.  We are losing licensed 

15    behavioral analysis because of the limited scope 

16    in this state.  

17                 I am proud to support this therapy.  

18    I am proud to vote in the affirmative for this 

19    legislation.  

20                 Thank you, Madam President.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

22    Mannion to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                 Senator Skoufis to explain his vote.

24                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

25    much, Madam President.  


                                                               4824

 1                 And my colleague Senator Mannion's 

 2    powerful remarks summed up the importance of this 

 3    bill.  And I want to thank him for sharing his 

 4    story, and to the point of today for helping get 

 5    this across the finish line.

 6                 And likewise I want to express my 

 7    gratitude to the Majority Leader, who was 

 8    instrumental in getting us to this point as well.

 9                 You know, we deal with a lot of 

10    proposals related to scope of practice in the 

11    State Legislature, and my philosophy is twofold 

12    when considering scope of practice bills.  One, 

13    do they have the training.  And two, is there a 

14    need.  And in this case, indisputably the answer 

15    to both of these questions is yes.

16                 On the first, we are the only state 

17    in the country that has placed, over the past 

18    many, many years, these overly restrictive, 

19    draconian measures as it relates to what ABAs can 

20    and can't do.  And there's a lot more that they 

21    can't do than that they can.

22                 And on the second, we heard from 

23    Senator Mannion the need that exists.  And it's 

24    compounded by the fact that some of these 

25    treatments, some of these therapies could be 


                                                               4825

 1    sought out by psychologists and psychiatrists.  I 

 2    know that they've weighed in on this proposal.  

 3                 But we all know, every single one of 

 4    us in this chamber knows the dearth of 

 5    psychologists and psychiatrists that exists in 

 6    this state and throughout this country.  There 

 7    are some communities that don't have a single 

 8    psychologist or a psychiatrist for a child to go 

 9    to.  

10                 And so the suggestion that even if 

11    you wanted to sort of game this out in parochial 

12    terms and, you know, if we're taking from here to 

13    give here, who's winning, who's losing.  The need 

14    far surpasses the opportunity for any child to go 

15    and see a psychologist or a psychiatrist in this 

16    state.  You have to wait months and months and 

17    months for an appointment, if you can get one at 

18    all.  And so it's really unfortunate to me to see 

19    some opposition from that corner.  

20                 However, most importantly, this is 

21    about the children who desperately need this 

22    service, these treatments, these therapies.  And 

23    to expand the scope of practice for ABAs to offer 

24    their expertise, which up till this point has 

25    been otherwise wasted in this state.  If, by the 


                                                               4826

 1    way, the ABA hasn't already left the state to 

 2    more fully practice their profession, it's been 

 3    wasted.

 4                 And now this two-house bill will 

 5    head to the Governor.  We hope he will sign it, 

 6    and finally ABAs, yes, they'll be able to 

 7    practice more fully as professionals as they 

 8    should have been this entire time.  

 9                 But most importantly, they will 

10    better be able to more fully be able to serve 

11    children like the one that Senator Mannion 

12    remarked on in his comments.  That's what this is 

13    all about, getting kids in this state the 

14    therapy, the treatment they need to best and most 

15    fully live their lives.

16                 Thank you, Madam President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

18    Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Announce the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1213, Assembly Print 6769, substituted earlier by 

25    Assemblymember Hyndman, an act to amend the 


                                                               4827

 1    Criminal Procedure Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1213, those Senators voting in the 

13    negative are Senators Helming, Jordan, O'Mara, 

14    Palumbo, Rath, Stec and Weik.

15                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 7.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1226, Senate Print 5024B, by Senator Rivera, an 

20    act to amend the Public Health Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4828

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

 4    Rivera to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  Good afternoon, everyone.  

 7                 We just heard from one of our -- 

 8    from a couple of our colleagues about some things 

 9    that we are changing in the State of New York to 

10    make it so that some children are -- who need to 

11    be -- who need treatment to be better can indeed 

12    be better.  And I thank them for doing that.

13                 The bill that we're passing here 

14    today, the one that I'm about to -- that I'm 

15    speaking of now, does something similar but it is 

16    about prevention.  And it is a different type of 

17    prevention.  

18                 In the last couple of days we've 

19    talked about all the damage that lead causes 

20    children, Madam President.  And there's a story 

21    which is a sad story -- but hopefully today it 

22    starts to have a happier ending -- of a young 

23    woman named Dakota.  Dakota is the daughter of 

24    one of my constituents, Tiesha Jones, who is a 

25    very strong-minded, opinionated and fantastic 


                                                               4829

 1    tenant leader in a New York City Housing 

 2    Authority project in my district, a development 

 3    in my district.

 4                 And unfortunately Dakota, her 

 5    daughter, when she was at a year old and two 

 6    years old, she was tested for lead and the 

 7    numbers didn't give anything away.  It seemed 

 8    like she was fine.  Because there was no 

 9    requirement that she be tested all the way up to 

10    six years old, like this bill that we have in 

11    front of us does, when she was tested again at 

12    four, her blood levels had spiked from 

13    5 micrograms to 45 micrograms per million.  

14                 The point is that unfortunately it 

15    was at a point where the damage done to her 

16    development was going to be permanent.  And 

17    Tiesha, Ms. Jones, felt it was necessary to make 

18    sure that this happened to no other child.  

19                 And so she worked along with my 

20    office for the last couple of years to put a bill 

21    together -- and this is the first one of a 

22    package that we will be hopefully passing as a 

23    whole.  But for the moment, this one deals with 

24    prevention.  We still have to make sure that we 

25    deal with insurance coverage as well as lead-safe 


                                                               4830

 1    residential rental properties.  

 2                 But all of this from the mind of a 

 3    New York mother who knew it was essential that we 

 4    change the law so that the things that happened 

 5    to her daughter do not happen to any other child.

 6                 So today I can tell Ms. Jones that 

 7    the first part of Dakota's Law is going to be 

 8    passed.  And I think it is incredibly important 

 9    again to just underline that this is about making 

10    sure that we can identify very early on when a 

11    child has this lead in their system.  And if we 

12    identify it early enough, not only can we make 

13    sure that that child gets taken care of, but 

14    then, Madam President, we can go and check the 

15    places where they might have been exposed to make 

16    sure that other children will be spared the 

17    issues that lead in their system can cause.  

18                 So bottom line, I am extremely happy 

19    to pass this bill today.  And as I said, Madam 

20    President, it is only the first of what I hope in 

21    the next couple of years will be a series of 

22    bills that will deal with this issue.  

23                 So I certainly want to make sure to 

24    thank again Ms. Tiesha Jones, who worked with us 

25    to put this bill together.  And, much like I did 


                                                               4831

 1    yesterday, recognize those hardworking staffers 

 2    without whom none of this would happen, and thank 

 3    my current Deputy Chief of staff Rachel Ferrari, 

 4    who worked along with Ms. Jones for years to make 

 5    sure that we could get this passage today.  

 6                 So to Rachel, to Tiesha, but most of 

 7    all to Dakota and every other young child that we 

 8    will spare the damages of lead by passing this 

 9    piece of legislation, I vote in the affirmative.

10                 Thank you, Madam President.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

12    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1244, Senate Print 6322A, by Senator Harckham, an 

19    act to establish the East of Hudson watershed 

20    road salt reduction task force.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4832

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1244, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Gallivan, Lanza and 

 8    Oberacker.

 9                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1352, Assembly Print 6046, substituted earlier by 

14    Assemblymember Bichotte Hermelyn, an act to amend 

15    the Election Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

24    Jackson to explain his vote.

25                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 


                                                               4833

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 And my colleagues, I rise this 

 3    afternoon to explain S6379, which relates to 

 4    electronic applications for absentee ballots.

 5                 In the shadows of the COVID-19 

 6    pandemic, last year's primary and general 

 7    elections showed us the ongoing need to expand 

 8    access to the ballot.  This legislation will 

 9    implement additional permanent ways that 

10    qualified voters -- and I'll mention that again, 

11    qualified voters, may request an absentee ballot 

12    through electronic means.

13                 It would help increase voter 

14    participation, which is democracy, while 

15    promoting a level of safety as we continue to 

16    learn how to face the ongoing battle with the 

17    pandemic.  In this 21st century, using technology 

18    at our disposal to request an absentee ballot 

19    just makes sense, Madam President.  

20                 Again, we were elected to make sure 

21    our constituents' right to vote is and continues 

22    to be protected.  And expanding their access to a 

23    ballot is the right thing to do to accomplish 

24    that.

25                 And so I'm proud, Madam President, 


                                                               4834

 1    to be a part of a historic Senate that will 

 2    continue to demonstrate its commitment to 

 3    ensuring that all eligible New Yorkers have 

 4    access to the ballot box.  We can all agree that 

 5    democracy is healthier when everyone can 

 6    participate in its construction.

 7                 For these reasons, Madam President, 

 8    I invite all of my colleagues to vote aye.

 9                 Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                 Announce the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1352, those Senators voting in the 

15    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

16    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

17    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

18    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

19    Weik.

20                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1353, Assembly Bill 4186B, substituted earlier by 

25    Assemblymember Dinowitz, an act to amend the 


                                                               4835

 1    Election Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5    act shall take effect January 1, 2022.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1353, those Senators voting in the 

13    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

14    Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, Oberacker, 

15    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec and Weik.

16                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 14.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1354, Assembly Print 6047A, substituted earlier 

21    by Assemblymember Bichotte Hermelyn, an act to 

22    amend the Election Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               4836

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.  

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1354, those Senators voting in the 

 9    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

10    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

11    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

12    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

13    Weik.

14                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1356, Assembly Print 6970A, substituted earlier 

19    by Assemblymember Walker, an act to amend the 

20    Election Law.

21                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

23    aside.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1441, Senate Print 3479, by Senator Comrie, an 


                                                               4837

 1    act to amend the Public Service Law.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1441, those Senators voting in the 

14    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

15    Helming, Jordan, Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

16    Palumbo, Rath, Stec and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 51.  Nays, 12.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1448, Assembly Print 229C, substituted earlier by 

22    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

23    Municipal Home Rule Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4838

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Skoufis to explain his vote.

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

 9    much, Madam President.

10                 And I want to express my gratitude 

11    to Assemblywoman Paulin; Senator Gaughran, who 

12    was very instrumental in helping put this 

13    together; as well as the entire Long Island 

14    Majority delegation.  

15                 And this bill, or some version of 

16    this bill, has been around for well over a 

17    decade.  And it is so important and so timely 

18    that we take this up this year, before the 

19    expiration of session tomorrow, because if we had 

20    not, and if the Governor does not sign it into 

21    law -- which I expect him to do -- then we would 

22    be waiting another decade before this bill would 

23    become relevant.

24                 So what this does is it finally puts 

25    into place a framework by which counties who are 


                                                               4839

 1    governed by charters must follow rules, 

 2    commonsense rules, when it comes to redistricting 

 3    county legislative districts.  

 4                 And we've seen time after time, 

 5    whether it's in the Hudson Valley or whether it's 

 6    in Long Island, gerrymandering that flies in the 

 7    face of decency and public input and the ideal 

 8    that voters should be choosing their elected 

 9    officials and not the other way around.

10                 And so what we have in place here 

11    are commonsense provisions that will protect the 

12    public's interest and make sure there is a level 

13    playing field for both parties when redistricting 

14    takes place throughout the state.  We've seen 

15    lawsuits and lawsuits and lawsuits whereby maps 

16    have been thrown out at the county level because 

17    they have defied U.S. or state constitutional 

18    requirements.  This will prevent many of those 

19    lawsuits by forcing these legislatures to get it 

20    right the first time.

21                 And so I thank all my partners in 

22    helping get this bill across the finish line.  

23    It's just in time for the early 2022 redraws that 

24    we will see in these over 20 counties governed by 

25    charters.  


                                                               4840

 1                 And I thank you for the opportunity 

 2    again, Madam President.  I vote yes.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1448, those Senators voting in the 

 8    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 9    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

10    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

11    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

12    Weik.

13                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number 

17    1483, Senate Print 1085, by Senator Gaughran, an 

18    act to amend the Public Service Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4841

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1487, Senate Print 4051A, by Senator Bailey, an 

 8    act to amend the Family Court Act.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 15.  This 

12    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

13    have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

18    Bailey to explain his vote.

19                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

20    Madam President.  

21                 Let me express my immense gratitude 

22    to Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins for allowing us 

23    to pass this incredibly important bill that 

24    raises the lower age of juvenile responsibility 

25    from 7 to 12.  


                                                               4842

 1                 And for those who are watching and 

 2    listening, yes, currently in statute in New York 

 3    State, if you are 7 years old you can be 

 4    arrested, you can be handcuffed, you can be 

 5    processed.  If you are 7 years old.

 6                 Madam President, I often speak about 

 7    my daughters because that is the greatest frame 

 8    of reference that I have in this universe.  And 

 9    my daughter will be 7 in September.  One, for her 

10    to be arrested would be traumatic to me, but 

11    imagine the trauma that would take place on a 

12    7-year-old who doesn't understand the gravity of 

13    what they do on a daily basis, much less 

14    understanding the concept of being arrested at 7.  

15                 We dig deeper about -- and we speak 

16    about mental health, and we speak about so many 

17    critical important things about our young people 

18    and how they're our future.  Well, we should act 

19    like it.

20                 And what we've done in this house 

21    and the Assembly and this Legislature in 

22    New York, we raised the age of criminal 

23    responsibility a couple of years ago.  Because 

24    the science said that's what we needed to do.  

25    Because young folks don't necessarily understand 


                                                               4843

 1    the gravity of what it is that they do at 16 or 

 2    17.  Especially not 7.  

 3                 So I want to thank the leader for 

 4    allowing us to bring this to the floor.  

 5                 I want to thank Tamara Frazier, our 

 6    staff analyst, who has done incredible work in 

 7    this space and in terms of helping us negotiate 

 8    and craft the bill, so I really wanted to thank 

 9    her.  

10                 The amazing advocates who have 

11    brought this and they've brought us the 

12    experiences of young people who have been 

13    incarcerated and arrested.  And I want to thank 

14    Chair Brisport here and Chair Hevesi in the 

15    Assembly for making this a priority there.

16                 But I really want to thank the OG, 

17    as it were, of juvenile justice, and that's 

18    Velmanette Montgomery.  The great Velmanette 

19    Montgomery, who was fighting for juvenile justice 

20    and Raise the Age before it became a hashtag, 

21    before it became popular.  Before it became 

22    something that we spoke about, it was Velmanette 

23    Montgomery who brought this to the consciousness 

24    of New York State.  

25                 And as she departed the New York 


                                                               4844

 1    State Senate, she sent me a letter last year and 

 2    she asked me to pick this bill up.  And she said:  

 3    "I hope that you can pass this, Senator Bailey."  

 4                 And one of the things that we know, 

 5    regardless of political affiliation, if 

 6    Velmanette Montgomery tells you to do something, 

 7    you better try your damndest to get it done.  

 8    Because Velmanette commands that much respect, 

 9    and because she was always fighting for the right 

10    things to do.

11                 And so I stand on the shoulders of a 

12    giant.  And Senator Montgomery, I am hoping that 

13    I'm making you proud by passing this legislation, 

14    amongst other pieces of legislation that you have 

15    asked us to move this year.  I am grateful to 

16    have had a mentor in you to impress upon me how 

17    important the reformation of the juvenile justice 

18    system is -- and not just the criminal legal 

19    system, that they work hand in hand, making sure 

20    that young folks can finally get these 

21    community-based services that will actually help 

22    to rehabilitate them.  In the event that they 

23    have committed wrongdoing, that will permit them 

24    to have a chance to move forward in their lives.

25                 The goal of any incarceration should 


                                                               4845

 1    be rehabilitation.  But the reality is that when 

 2    you're 7 years old, 8 years old, 9 years old, to 

 3    incarcerate individuals for, again, things that 

 4    they don't fully understand and grasp the gravity 

 5    of, was something wrong that we were doing in 

 6    this state.

 7                 I am incredibly proud to be a part 

 8    of a body who is making steps in an extremely 

 9    affirmative manner to make sure that the justice 

10    system is fair for everyone, regardless of age.  

11    I thank all my colleagues for their strong 

12    support of this legislation, and I will proudly 

13    be voting in the affirmative on this legislation.  

14                 Thank you, Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

16    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                 Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

18                 SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.

20                 First I want to echo the remarks of 

21    Senator Bailey in one respect, which is to once 

22    again thank Senator Montgomery for all the work 

23    that she, throughout her career, did with respect 

24    to this issue.

25                 I'm going to be voting in the 


                                                               4846

 1    negative on this legislation, and I want to 

 2    explain why.  I also want to mention that my good 

 3    friend Senator Bailey's heart is always in the 

 4    right place, and I respect the work and the 

 5    passion that he brings to every issue that he 

 6    brings forward in this chamber.

 7                 As you might recall, 

 8    Madam President, I was the sponsor of the 

 9    Raise the Age bill.  I was proud to bring that to 

10    the floor in this chamber.  We worked long and 

11    hard -- Senator Gallivan and myself on this side, 

12    many of my colleagues on the other side.  

13    Senator Bailey, I worked with.  We worked with 

14    our colleagues, Republican and Democrat, in the 

15    Assembly.  We worked with the Governor.  And we 

16    did that which a lot of people said could not 

17    happen.  

18                 And I think the fact that it was a 

19    bipartisan effort, a bipartisan bill -- and 

20    because of all the work that that requires when 

21    you need two parties or when you have two parties 

22    working together, it means that a lot of work 

23    happens behind the scenes.  And there's a lot of 

24    effort and thought and passion and vetting that 

25    is necessary whenever a bipartisan bill is going 


                                                               4847

 1    to come to the floor of anybody.  And that's what 

 2    we did.

 3                 The driving force behind that 

 4    legislation was precisely what Senator Bailey 

 5    mentioned, which is that when you're dealing with 

 6    an offender, a young, a juvenile offender, we in 

 7    society, in this community, in this state, you 

 8    have an opportunity that you might not have with 

 9    an older or another offender.  Which is to say 

10    that if you get involved early, maybe we can help 

11    get that person on the right path.  Maybe we can 

12    avoid a youthful indiscretion from becoming a 

13    lifetime scar.

14                 We were careful to carve out -- 

15    because I think it's important to do so -- 

16    serious offenses, even murder and other violent 

17    crimes.  Regardless of whether or not they're 

18    committed by a 30-year-old or a 17-year-old, that 

19    is something that needs to be seriously dealt 

20    with and appropriately dealt with.

21                 But we recognize that with youthful 

22    offenders, there was this opportunity to make 

23    sure that we put that person on the right path.

24                 And the other thing driving the 

25    issue, and why I think we all came together, was 


                                                               4848

 1    that perhaps in order to seize that opportunity, 

 2    criminal court, traditional criminal court, might 

 3    not be the right venue.  Democrats especially 

 4    pushed the idea initially that Family Court was 

 5    the right place.  I bought into that idea.  We 

 6    wrote the legislation as such.  

 7                 And that was really the theme of the 

 8    Raise the Age legislation, that rather than have 

 9    someone who has committed a crime at the age of 

10    15 go to criminal court, that perhaps if they 

11    went to Family Court -- not that anything was 

12    being swept under the rug, but that Family Court 

13    might be better situated and would be better 

14    situated and have the resources to deal with that 

15    youthful offender in a better way.

16                 And I think it's worked.  And the 

17    idea in Raise the Age was that there would be 

18    services that would help we in this state keep 

19    ourselves safe and also to help the offender to 

20    make sure that they wouldn't commit another 

21    offense.  And again, it has worked.

22                 The legislation required additional 

23    resources to Family Court; the Executive has not 

24    come through to the extent that they should have.  

25    We need to keep pressing there.  But again, the 


                                                               4849

 1    idea first brought forth by Senator Montgomery a 

 2    long time ago was that Family Court was the place 

 3    to do this.  And we did it.  Democrats and 

 4    Republicans, we did it.  And it's worked.  From 

 5    any vantage point, it's worked.  

 6                 The reason I'm voting, 

 7    unfortunately, against this legislation is 

 8    because I think it violates exactly that which 

 9    was the major driving force behind Raise the Age, 

10    which is that Family Court is the right place.  

11    This bill, if it becomes law, will divert 

12    youthful offenders away from Family Court to down 

13    the street, to some agency or to some group or to 

14    some service that may or may not have the ability 

15    to do what is necessary for both the offender and 

16    for our community.

17                 I still believe and maintain, 

18    Madam President, that the right place to deal 

19    with these offenses with respect to youthful 

20    offenders is in Family Court.  They ought to stay 

21    there.  They can best handle that which I seek to 

22    see happen and that which I think Senator Bailey 

23    wishes to see happen, which is justice.

24                 For that reason, Madam President, 

25    I'm going to be voting in the negative.


                                                               4850

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Lanza to be recorded in the negative.

 3                 Announce the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1487, those Senators voting in the 

 6    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 7    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

 8    Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

 9    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1508, Senate Print 7018A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

15    act authorizing the City of Schenectady to 

16    alienate certain parcels of land used as 

17    parkland.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

19    a home-rule message at the desk.

20                 Read the last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4851

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1519, Senate Print 309A, by Senator Myrie, an act 

 8    to amend the Election Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Jackson to explain his vote.

18                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.

20                 I rise in order to speak on Calendar 

21    Number 1519, which relates to the construction of 

22    voting machines and systems.  And Senator Myrie 

23    is the sponsor of this bill, Senate Bill Number 

24    309A.  

25                 Too many people in this country are 


                                                               4852

 1    still talking about voter fraud and voter machine 

 2    malfunctions as if they care about the strength 

 3    of democracy, when it's clear that their concerns 

 4    are about safeguarding their own political power.

 5                 The bill before us today actually 

 6    walks the walk by contributing in a positive way 

 7    to the security of our elections.  And I thank my 

 8    colleague Zellnor Myrie for his work as the chair 

 9    of the Elections Committee in the New York State 

10    Senate.  

11                 Voter confidence as a measure of the 

12    quality of our elections is essential, 

13    Madam President.  The threat of hacking the 

14    machines we rely on for free, fair and democratic 

15    elections is genuine.  And we are required to 

16    take every reasonable precaution, 

17    Madam President, to protect the bedrock of our 

18    republic, our right to vote.

19                 This bill will help ensure that 

20    their vote will count as cast.  It is commonsense 

21    reform that sets forth some additional system 

22    requirements for improving voting machines, a 

23    no-brainer that both sides of the aisle should be 

24    able to agree upon.  

25                 And after all, we are protecting the 


                                                               4853

 1    integrity of our electoral process.  I highly 

 2    doubt that any one of us here would not support 

 3    the action and sense of duty in our obligation.  

 4                 And for those reasons, 

 5    Madam President, I vote aye.  Thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1519, those Senators voting in the 

11    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

12    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

13    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

14    Palumbo, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

15                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1521, Senate Print 680, by Senator Harckham, an 

20    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

25    shall have become a law.


                                                               4854

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar Number 1521, those Senators voting in 

 8    the negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, 

 9    Boyle, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Hinchey, 

10    Jordan, Lanza, Mannion, Martucci, Mattera, 

11    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, 

12    Skoufis, Tedisco, Stec and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 22.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1526, Senate Print 2521B, by Senator Rivera, an 

18    act to amend the Public Health Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4855

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator  

 3    Rivera to explain his vote.

 4                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.

 6                 Now, complicated problems sometimes 

 7    require complicated bills.  I should say 

 8    complicated problems always require complicated 

 9    bills.

10                 The bill that we passed a bit 

11    earlier, as I mentioned, was one of what I hope 

12    to be a package of bills to address the concerns 

13    around lead poisoning in children.

14                 The bill that we have before us now 

15    is part of what I hope to be many bills, since it 

16    was a bigger and more complicated bill, but it 

17    got split up to deal with patient medical debt.

18                 I'll take a second to actually both 

19    recognize and thank Senator Kevin Thomas, who 

20    just yesterday passed a bill, Madam President, 

21    that relates specifically to consumer debt but 

22    more broadly, because it is consumer debt, 

23    includes medical debt.  And this was one of the 

24    parts of the bill, of the big bill that we 

25    thought rightly that Senator Thomas covered in 


                                                               4856

 1    his bill and therefore we said, You go ahead with 

 2    that, brother, and we'll support you on that one.

 3                 But there are a couple of other 

 4    things related to medical debt that we need to 

 5    deal with, and the bill that is before us deals 

 6    with something called the facility fee.  And 

 7    simply put, this is something that sometimes 

 8    slips into a bill without our knowledge, and all 

 9    of a sudden we have to -- when we go for all 

10    sorts of procedures, we might be actually in a 

11    hospital, we might be just getting treated for 

12    something relatively minor, and those facility 

13    fees actually show up.

14                 So this bill would actually 

15    change -- eliminate a loophole in state law that 

16    currently just results in surprise expenses for 

17    so many folks around the state.

18                 And this is, as I said, one of the 

19    hopefully many bills that we will pass to deal 

20    with medical debt.  So it is certainly an 

21    important bill for that reason.

22                 There's just one more thing that I 

23    wanted to underline, Madam President.  So I've 

24    spent the last couple of days thankfully coming 

25    to the floor and explaining some of the bills 


                                                               4857

 1    that I've been passing that have been -- that a 

 2    lot of folks have worked a lot of hard hours to 

 3    make sure that they happen, and I've been 

 4    mentioning some of my staff.  

 5                 This one is particularly special 

 6    because it actually was part of -- the large 

 7    project of dealing with medical debt was actually 

 8    something that a former staffer was working on.  

 9    And it was something that she was working on 

10    before she passed away from corona in December of 

11    last year.  A woman who I've spoken about on this 

12    floor before who has served the Senate for many, 

13    many years.  That was Kristin Sinclair.  This was 

14    the final project that she was working on, this 

15    big, beautiful and complicated bill dealing with 

16    something that is really a scourge to folks here 

17    in New York State, which is medical debt.

18                 We will hopefully pass many more 

19    bills dealing with this issue because it is not 

20    resolved yet.  But I wanted to make sure that as 

21    we pass this first bill today, Madam President, 

22    that I not only thank the Community Service 

23    Society who brought it our attention, but 

24    specifically to point out that her work and her 

25    legacy lives on and that the work that she did 


                                                               4858

 1    consistently to serve New Yorkers is carried on, 

 2    not only by myself but by the rest of my staff as 

 3    well.

 4                 I will thank Michela Paniccia, who 

 5    is my committee director now and who was 

 6    essential in figuring out how to work all these 

 7    different pieces.  So I will thank her as well on 

 8    the record.  

 9                 So Madam President, this is 

10    something that not only deals with medical debt 

11    but, more importantly, is what I hope to be a 

12    first of many bills to continue to talk about 

13    Kristin's legacy of serving New Yorkers, and I'm 

14    incredibly happy and proud to vote in the 

15    affirmative right now.  

16                 Thank you, Madam President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

18    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Announce the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1526, those Senators voting in the 

22    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, 

23    Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, Ortt, Tedisco 

24    and Weik.

25                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 9.


                                                               4859

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1546, Senate Print 5144B, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 5    act to amend the Real Property Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1546, those Senators voting in the 

17    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

18    Gallivan, Gaughran, Griffo, Harckham, Helming, 

19    Jordan, Lanza, Mannion, Martucci, Mattera, 

20    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Serino, 

21    Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 23.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4860

 1    1551, Senate Print 592, by Senator May, an act to 

 2    amend the State Finance Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect June 1, 2022.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1551, those Senators voting in the 

14    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

15    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

16    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, 

17    Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

18                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 18.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1554, Senate Print 5934, by Senator Parker, an 

23    act to authorize Top Community Development 

24    Corporation to file an application for a real 

25    property tax exemption.


                                                               4861

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1554, those Senators voting in the 

12    negative are Senators Akshar, Helming and O'Mara.

13                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1565, Senate Print 6546A, by Senator Gallivan, an 

18    act to amend the Highway Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4862

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar Number 1565, voting in the negative:  

 5    Senator Brisport.

 6                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1568, Senate Print 6694, by Senator Harckham, an 

11    act to amend the Education Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1587, Assembly Print 7713, substituted earlier by 


                                                               4863

 1    Assemblymember Jackson, an act to amend the 

 2    Penal Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1588, Assembly Print 7816, substituted earlier by 

17    Assemblymember Morinello, an act to amend the 

18    Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4864

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1602, Senate Print 7171, by Senator Brisport, an 

 8    act to amend the Family Court Act.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Announce the 

17    results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1602, those Senators voting in the 

20    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

21    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

22    Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

23    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4865

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1603, Assembly Print 7601, substituted earlier by 

 4    Assemblymember Darling, an act to amend the 

 5    Family Court Act.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1604, Senate Print 7173, by Senator Bailey, an 

20    act to amend the Family Court Act.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

25    shall have become a law.


                                                               4866

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1604, those Senators voting in the 

 8    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 9    Gallivan, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

10    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, 

11    Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 18.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1610, Assembly Print 8012, substituted earlier by 

17    Assemblymember Meeks, an act making an 

18    appropriation to pay to the children of the late 

19    David F. Gantt, member of the Assembly from the 

20    137th Assembly District.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4867

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1616, Senate Print 600, by Senator Benjamin, an 

10    act to amend the Election Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1616, those Senators voting in the 

22    negative are Senators Borrello, Helming, Jordan, 

23    Oberacker, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Serino, Stec and 

24    Tedisco.

25                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 10.


                                                               4868

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1618, Senate Print 737A, by Senator Biaggi, an 

 5    act to amend the General Business Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1618, those Senators voting in the 

18    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, 

19    Helming, Jordan, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ritchie, Stec 

20    and Tedisco.

21                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 9.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1619, Assembly Print 3331, substituted earlier by 


                                                               4869

 1    Assemblymember Hevesi, an act to amend the 

 2    Social Services Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1620, Senate Print 979A, by Senator Gaughran, an 

17    act to amend the Real Property Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4870

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1620, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Lanza and Ortt.

 6                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1621, Senate Print 1603, by Senator Gianaris, an 

11    act to amend the Public Housing Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1621, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

24    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

25    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 


                                                               4871

 1    Stec and Weik.

 2                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1622, Senate Print 2025, by Senator May, an act 

 7    to amend the Education Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1623, Senate Print 2045, by Senator Tedisco, an 

23    act to amend the County Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4872

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1625, Senate Print 2630, by Senator Sanders, an 

13    act to amend the Correction Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1625, those Senators voting in the 


                                                               4873

 1    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 2    Gallivan, Griffo, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

 3    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

 4    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1626, Senate Print 2743, by Senator Ramos, an act 

10    to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1626, those Senators voting in the 

22    negative are Senators Boyle and Kavanagh.

23                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               4874

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1627, Senate Print 2757B, by Senator Ramos, an 

 3    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar Number 1627, voting in the negative:  

15    Senator Felder.

16                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1628, Senate Print 2999B, by Senator Harckham, an 

21    act to amend the Executive Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               4875

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1628, those Senators voting in the 

 8    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 9    Helming, Jordan, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

10    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Stec and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 50.  Nays, 13. 

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1629, Senate Print 3080A, by Senator Salazar, an 

16    act directing the New York State Energy Research 

17    and Development Authority to establish a "Ride 

18    Clean" rebate program.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4876

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1629, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Felder, Helming and 

 6    Oberacker.

 7                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1630, Assembly Print 735, substituted earlier by 

12    Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend the 

13    Agriculture and Markets Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               4877

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1631, Senate Print 3687A, by Senator Felder, an 

 3    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the first of April.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1631, those Senators voting in the 

15    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 

16    Helming, Jordan, O'Mara, Ritchie and Stec.

17                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 8.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1632, Assembly Print 3173, substituted earlier by 

22    Assemblymember Cook, an act to amend the 

23    General Business Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4878

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 3    shall have become a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1632, those Senators voting in the 

11    negative are Senators Gallivan and Lanza.

12                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1633, Assembly Print 949, substituted earlier by 

17    Assemblymember Zebrowski, an act to amend the 

18    Public Service Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4879

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1634, Assembly Bill 2202, substituted earlier by 

 8    Assemblymember Barnwell, an act to amend the 

 9    General Business Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

14    shall have become a law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1635, Senate Print 4347A, by Senator Brouk, an 

25    act to amend the Education Law and the Social 


                                                               4880

 1    Services Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 9.  This 

 5    act shall take effect twelve months after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1636, Senate Print 4367A, by Senator Mayer, an 

17    act to amend the Public Officers Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               4881

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1637, Assembly Print 3034, substituted earlier by 

 7    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

 8    Real Property Tax Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1638, Assembly Print 898B, substituted earlier  

23    by Assemblymember Woerner, an act to amend the 

24    Domestic Relations Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               4882

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1639, Senate Print 4486A, by Senator Harckham, an 

14    act to amend the Public Health Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Harckham to explain his vote.

24                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.


                                                               4883

 1                 I would like to thank our 

 2    Majority Leader for her focus on this issue and 

 3    bringing this piece of legislation to the floor 

 4    for us to discuss today.

 5                 Back in 2007 when this body created 

 6    the office of the Medicaid Inspector General, it 

 7    was designed to root out fraud, abuse and waste, 

 8    because every dollar lost in the Medicaid system 

 9    to waste, fraud and abuse was not going to 

10    patient care.

11                 As time has gone on and staffs have 

12    been cut and the original purpose has, shall we 

13    say, gone in the rear-view mirror, what has 

14    happened is that the Office of the Inspector 

15    General has begun to focus on clerical errors and 

16    administrative errors, and then extrapolate.  And 

17    sometimes the results have just defied common 

18    sense.  

19                 And we are in the midst of an opioid 

20    crisis.  More people died last year from opioid 

21    overdose than at any time in recorded history.  

22    And yet last year, because of an administrative 

23    extrapolation by the Office of the Inspector 

24    General, a treatment center for Medicaid-assisted 

25    treatment was put out of business and 1500 slots 


                                                               4884

 1    were lost.

 2                 And for an administrative error, I 

 3    don't think anybody in this body envisioned that 

 4    that was the purpose of the law in 2007.

 5                 So this law will rein in those 

 6    procedures, and it will end the fatal practice of 

 7    killing treatment providers in these fatal fines 

 8    for clerical and administrative errors.  Yes, go 

 9    at them for waste, fraud and crime because, 

10    again, that keeps money from patients.  But when 

11    there are clerical errors and administrative 

12    errors in the midst of an opioid crisis, the last 

13    thing we should do is be putting these treatment 

14    providers out of business.

15                 I vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1640, Senate Print 4539, by Senator Kaplan, an 

24    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               4885

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1640, those Senators voting in the 

11    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

12    Gallivan, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

13    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rath, Serino, 

14    Stec and Weik.

15                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1641, Assembly Print 6014A, substituted earlier 

20    by Assemblymember Magnarelli, an act to amend the 

21    Vehicle and Traffic Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the first of November.


                                                               4886

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar Number 1641, voting in the negative:  

 8    Senator Lanza.

 9                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1642, Senate Print 5257C, by Senator Gianaris, an 

14    act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

15                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

17    aside.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1643, Senate Print 5488A, by Senator Biaggi, an 

20    act to amend the Marshall Plan for Moms 

21    interagency task force.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               4887

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 5    Biaggi to explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR BIAGGI:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 I rise today to proudly vote in 

 9    favor of this bill, which is a task force created 

10    for the Marshall Plan for Moms.

11                 It is no surprise to anybody in this 

12    chamber or anybody who is listening in New York 

13    or really in the entire country that mothers and 

14    caregivers during the COVID-19 pandemic are one 

15    of the populations that have been the hardest hit 

16    economically.  They have served as this invisible 

17    workforce, really being a key to all of the 

18    families that they care for and work with and 

19    work for, for their economic security and 

20    survival.

21                 There have been increased demands of 

22    childcare we know about, work, remote learning, 

23    which has really been one of the challenges, I 

24    think, of this time.  And it all collectively has 

25    taken a really incredible unprecedented toll on 


                                                               4888

 1    mothers and caregivers, forcing 2.4 million 

 2    women -- predominantly women of color -- to leave 

 3    the workforce:  2.4 million women have left the 

 4    workforce.  That number is staggering.  

 5                 As New York State is currently 

 6    reopening and recovering, what we have to do is 

 7    focus on how to get these women and caregivers 

 8    back into the workforce, because we cannot afford 

 9    to leave anybody behind.  The Marshall Plan for 

10    Moms will create a task force to determine how 

11    the state can do that -- by providing direct 

12    payments to mothers and caregivers who are 

13    experiencing financial instability, something 

14    that President Biden actually has already 

15    committed to do; return women back to the 

16    workforce; address other various policy areas, 

17    including childcare, mental health support, paid 

18    family leave -- which I know that this state has 

19    taken on before, but there are still ways to make 

20    more progress in this category -- and other 

21    family-supportive workplaces.

22                 This task force will also directly 

23    address state policies that fail to protect 

24    mothers and caregivers overall.  2021, this year, 

25    must be the year that the voices of mothers and 


                                                               4889

 1    other caregivers are heard and that their needs 

 2    are prioritized.

 3                 In the past decade women in the 

 4    workplace made monumental advancements.  In fact, 

 5    this chamber has been part of some of those 

 6    monumental advancements, towards pay equity and 

 7    other leadership roles.  But there is more we can 

 8    do.  And because we know that there is more that 

 9    we can do, that means that we are responsible to 

10    do it.

11                 So by creating this task force, it 

12    is dedicated to developing a multifaceted series 

13    of solutions that we can then act on as a body.  

14    And I think it is one of the most responsible 

15    things that we can do if we say that we care 

16    about mothers and caregivers during this COVID-19 

17    pandemic who have been impacted.  

18                 I proudly vote yes.  Thank you.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Biaggi to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Announce the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 1643, those Senators voting in the 

24    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

25    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 


                                                               4890

 1    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

 2    Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

 3                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 17.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1645, Senate Print 5527, by Senator Brooks, an 

 8    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1646, Senate Print 5722, by Senator Thomas, an 

24    act in relation to restricting certain practices 

25    from remote supervision by licensed pharmacists.


                                                               4891

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1647, Assembly Print 6426, substituted earlier by 

15    Assemblymember Thiele, an act relating to 

16    authorizing the district superintendent of the 

17    Eastport-South Manor Central School District to 

18    adjust the improper apportionment of the school 

19    tax levy.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4892

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1648, Senate Print 5988B, by Senator Mattera, an 

 9    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1649, Senate Print 6052B, by Senator 

24    Reichlin-Melnick, an act to amend Chapter 89 of 

25    the Laws of 2016.


                                                               4893

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Reichlin-Melnick to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Thank 

11    you, Madam President.

12                 Every child in New York has the 

13    right to an excellent education.  But for far too 

14    long, the children of the East Ramapo School 

15    District have been deprived of this right.  

16                 A district which was once among the 

17    best in Rockland County now faces huge financial 

18    and educational hurdles.  The graduation rate is 

19    the lowest in the county, and students have had 

20    limited access to school counseling, arts, music, 

21    extracurricular activities, and English language 

22    learning services for the many children of 

23    immigrant families in the district.

24                 Last year several thousand students 

25    went months without Chromebooks, totally unable 


                                                               4894

 1    to access online learning in the midst of this 

 2    pandemic.  While academics have suffered, the 

 3    school board has also mismanaged the district's 

 4    finances so badly that they had to borrow more 

 5    than $25 million this spring or else they would 

 6    have run out of money before the end of this 

 7    school year.  

 8                 East Ramapo has unique demographics, 

 9    with around 9,000 public school students, mostly 

10    children of color, and around 32,000 private 

11    school students, nearly all of whom are white.  

12    The school board has for years been controlled by 

13    members from the private school community, which 

14    has left many parents in the public school 

15    community feeling that their children's education 

16    is not being prioritized.  

17                 Five years ago my predecessor, 

18    Senator Carlucci, working with Assemblyman Ken 

19    Zebrowski and former Assemblywoman Ellen Jaffee, 

20    advanced legislation that placed monitors 

21    appointed by the State Education Department in 

22    the district.  This was an important first step, 

23    but unfortunately these monitors lacked effective 

24    tools to stand up against bad decisions by the 

25    school board.  


                                                               4895

 1                 In the years since the appointment 

 2    of the state monitors, the district has lost a 

 3    federal voting rights lawsuit brought by the 

 4    NAACP and New York Civil Liberties Union, and 

 5    been the subject of several scathing reports by 

 6    the State Comptroller.  A new approach is clearly 

 7    needed.  

 8                 This bill gives the State Education 

 9    Department the power to appoint monitors for the 

10    East Ramapo School District who will have the 

11    authority to overrule decisions of the school 

12    board that violate state law and regulations or 

13    the district's fiscal and academic improvement 

14    plan.  

15                 Passing this bill is a milestone for 

16    the children of this district.  It will finally 

17    give the parents and students in the public 

18    schools in East Ramapo the confidence that 

19    New York State is looking out for them and is 

20    ready to act to guarantee that the education they 

21    receive will set them on the path to a brighter 

22    future.  

23                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

24    for bringing this bill to a vote, thank my 

25    colleagues for supporting it.  And I also want to 


                                                               4896

 1    acknowledge the tremendous work done by the 

 2    Assembly sponsor, Ken Zebrowski, who has been 

 3    championing this issue for years and worked 

 4    closely with the State Ed Department on the 

 5    language of this bill.  The Assembly will also be 

 6    passing it before the end of session.  

 7                 I want to thank former Senator 

 8    Carlucci and former Assemblywoman Jaffee for 

 9    their work as well.  Of course our commissioner, 

10    Betty Rosa, who has been a strong supporter of 

11    this legislation.  And I want to thank the 

12    Spring Valley NAACP, New York Civil Liberties 

13    Union, the Rockland Clergy for Social Justice, 

14    and the countless parents, students and families 

15    who have been fighting for this bill.  

16                 I vote aye, and I am proud to take 

17    this vote.  Thank you, Madam President.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

19    Reichlin-Melnick to be recorded in the 

20    affirmative.

21                 Senator Mayer to explain her vote.

22                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

23    Madam President.  

24                 I'm so proud to rise and explain my 

25    vote in support of this really critical bill that 


                                                               4897

 1    continues the fight for equity for every school 

 2    district.  

 3                 This bill will enhance state 

 4    oversight for the operation of programs and 

 5    services for students in the East Ramapo School 

 6    District.  As chair of the Education Committee, 

 7    my commitment and our commitment is to advance 

 8    and support measures designed to ensure all 

 9    public school students have access to quality 

10    education and services throughout the state, 

11    regardless of where they live.

12                 We are poised today to build upon 

13    the current statutory framework and strengthen 

14    the monitor process for the delivery of programs 

15    for East Ramapo's public school students.  Local 

16    circumstances in this district, as in several 

17    others across the state, have warranted 

18    district-specific state action, working closely 

19    with the State Education Department.

20                 This bill will prevent conflicts of 

21    interest and ensure necessary programs are funded 

22    and made available to all students.  It supports 

23    the district's 9,000 public school students while 

24    ensuring all voices are heard, including those of 

25    families of nonpublic students.


                                                               4898

 1                 The East Ramapo District will 

 2    receive $7.5 million in an increase in state 

 3    funding next year under the Foundation Aid 

 4    formula, and is allocated more than $216 million 

 5    in federal COVID relief funding.

 6                 These very substantial funding 

 7    commitments are meaningful, but we must make sure 

 8    they are spent well and serve the students of 

 9    this district, the large majority of whom are 

10    poor and families suffering and struggling 

11    through the pandemic.

12                 We have a responsibility to these 

13    children, whether they are public or nonpublic, 

14    and this bill addresses that need.  There are 

15    times when a state has to step in to support 

16    individual districts and the students they serve.  

17    That is this time.  

18                 I want to commend my colleague 

19    Senator Reichlin-Melnick for his leadership, as 

20    well as certainly the State Education Department 

21    and our leader, Andrea Stewart-Cousins, for 

22    bringing this most important matter to a 

23    conclusion for this year.

24                 The time is now to pass it, and I'm 

25    proud to vote in the affirmative.


                                                               4899

 1                 Thank you, Madam President.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 3    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Announce the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1649, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 8    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

 9    Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

10    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 19.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1650, Assembly Print 3967, substituted earlier by 

16    Assemblymember Pretlow, an act to amend the 

17    General Municipal Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               4900

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1650, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Helming, Jordan, Oberacker, 

 5    Rath and Skoufis.

 6                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 5.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1651, Assembly Print 6968, substituted earlier by 

11    Assemblymember Magnarelli, an act to amend the 

12    Vehicle and Traffic Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4901

 1    1652, Assembly Print 7209, substituted earlier by 

 2    Assemblymember Thiele, an act to amend the 

 3    General Municipal Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

12    Borrello to explain his vote.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.

15                 I rise to speak in favor of this 

16    bill.  I'd like to first of all thank Senator 

17    Gaughran for his sponsorship of this bill.  

18                 This is a -- it may seem, you know, 

19    maybe a little down in the weeds, but as a former 

20    local government official, as a county executive, 

21    I can tell you how critically important this is 

22    to expand investment options for our local 

23    governments.  

24                 These actually have -- these options 

25    have been available to New York City for a long 


                                                               4902

 1    time, and now they're being expanded to the rest 

 2    of the state.

 3                 As a former county executive and 

 4    someone who was in charge of the finances of our 

 5    county, I can tell you that the options are 

 6    extremely limited, and this becomes a real issue, 

 7    especially with the variations in interest rates.  

 8                 We're going to see now, likely, 

 9    inflation increasing across the United States, 

10    and that's going to likely lead to higher 

11    interest rates.  And local governments will 

12    likely be stuck, if you will, in investing in 

13    bonds that may in the end start to turn negative 

14    as far as their market values.  

15                 This will expand the flexibility and 

16    give those options that have been available to 

17    New York City for a long time to every local 

18    government.  And I think it's critically 

19    important, especially now, as I mentioned.  

20                 So thank you again to the sponsor, 

21    and thank you to everyone else that has supported 

22    this bill that will help -- in the end, help 

23    taxpayers by getting a better return on the 

24    reserve monies that they have in their taxpayer 

25    coffers.  


                                                               4903

 1                 Thank you.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 3    Borrello to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Announce the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar Number 1652, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Brisport.

 8                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1653, Assembly Print 7237, substituted earlier by 

13    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

14    Public Authorities Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4904

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1654, Senate Print 6516A, by Senator Mannion, an 

 4    act to amend the Education Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

13    Mannion to explain his vote.

14                 SENATOR MANNION:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.

16                 853 schools and 4201 schools are 

17    simply that, they are schools.  They are schools 

18    that serve children with disabilities.  These are 

19    the appropriate schools for these kids.  

20                 These schools have struggled, like 

21    other schools have, and other institutions, with 

22    the challenges of meeting the costs attributed to 

23    facing the pandemic of COVID-19.  They need our 

24    help.  They need parity.  They need equity.  And 

25    I am proud to sponsor this legislation, which 


                                                               4905

 1    will assure that.

 2                 These schools are often referred to 

 3    as the forgotten schools.  We can't forget them.  

 4    We need legislation to make sure that they are 

 5    supported equitably, just like every other school 

 6    and school district in the state.

 7                 Thank you, Madam President.  I 

 8    proudly vote in the affirmative.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

10    Mannion to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                 Senator Mayer to explain her vote.

12                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.

14                 I proudly am voting in the 

15    affirmative on this bill.  And in doing so, I 

16    stand with thousands of students and their 

17    parents across the state, students who are 

18    educated in approved private special education 

19    school programs and Special Acts school 

20    districts.

21                 This year we adopted an 

22    unprecedented education budget with funding 

23    commitments to ensure equity, adequacy and 

24    opportunity for children without regard to where 

25    they live or who represents them in government.  


                                                               4906

 1                 Under the leadership of our 

 2    Majority Leader, my colleagues and I fulfilled a 

 3    legal promise made more than a decade ago to 

 4    properly fund our public schools.  Today we have 

 5    the opportunity and in fact the responsibility to 

 6    extend this commitment and make the same promise 

 7    to our students with special needs in 

 8    state-approved private schools and Special Acts 

 9    school districts.

10                 The legislation before us extends 

11    the same level of funding to private approved 

12    special ed schools and Special Acts school 

13    districts that we did approve for public schools 

14    every year.  The measure will assure program 

15    providers that they can count on the same 

16    percentage increase in funding through the rate 

17    setting process.  

18                 In doing so, we provide the schools 

19    with financial stability and predictability, help 

20    to stabilize programs, avoid closures, and 

21    maintain their future viability.  It gives 

22    parents comfort knowing their children can 

23    continue in settings that are appropriate, 

24    familiar and necessary for their development.

25                 It makes a promise to children -- 


                                                               4907

 1    after all, that's what we're about -- those with 

 2    special needs, that their education matters and 

 3    they will have the opportunities to succeed.

 4                 I want to thank my colleague Senator 

 5    Mannion for his leadership in sponsoring this 

 6    important legislation initiated by the State 

 7    Education Department.  And I want to thank 

 8    Commissioner Betty Rosa and Chancellor Lester 

 9    Young for their steadfast commitment to children 

10    with special needs in advancing this proposal, 

11    together with our Majority Leader and my Senate 

12    colleagues.  

13                 I vote in the affirmative.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

15    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1655, Senate Print Number 6537, by 

22    Senator Reichlin-Melnick, an act to amend the 

23    Education Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4908

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1656, Assembly Print 7240, substituted earlier by 

13    Assemblymember Gottfried, an act relating to a 

14    review of reimbursement rates for ambulette 

15    transportation.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.


                                                               4909

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1657, Assembly Print 7520A, substituted earlier 

 5    by Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

 6    Real Property Tax Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1660, Assembly Print 7038A, substituted earlier 

21    by Assemblymember Galef, an act to amend the 

22    Village Law and the Public Officers Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               4910

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1661, Senate Print 6664, by Senator May, an act 

12    to amend the Public Health Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

16    act shall take effect January 1, 2022. 

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4911

 1    1663, Senate Print 6738, by Senator Jordan, an 

 2    act to amend the Highway Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar Number 1663, voting in the negative:  

14    Senator Brisport.

15                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1664, Senate Print 6777, by Senator Salazar, an 

20    act to amend the Executive Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4912

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1664, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

 8    Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Mattera, Oberacker, 

 9    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Stec and 

10    Tedisco.

11                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 15.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1665, Assembly Print 7564, substituted earlier by 

16    Assemblymember Burke, an act to amend the 

17    Education Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4913

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1665, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Akshar, Felder and Lanza.

 6                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1666, Senate Print 6822, by Senator Palumbo, an 

11    act in relation to granting Kevin Moriarty 

12    Tier IV status in the New York State Teachers' 

13    Retirement System.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               4914

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1667, Assembly Print 7567A, substituted earlier 

 3    by Assemblymember McMahon, an act to amend the 

 4    Agriculture and Markets Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1668, Senate Print 6875, by Senator Persaud, an 

20    act to amend the Social Services Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24    act shall take effect October 1, 2022.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4915

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1668, those Senators voting in the 

 7    negative are Senators Borrello and Oberacker.  

 8                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1669, Assembly Print 4587A, substituted earlier 

13    by Assemblymember Thiele, an act to amend the 

14    General Obligations Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4916

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1670, Senate Print 6962, by Senator Ryan, an act 

 4    to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1670, those Senators voting in the 

16    negative are Senators Lanza and Ortt.

17                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1672, Assembly Print 3516, substituted earlier by 

22    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

23    Insurance Law.

24                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 


                                                               4917

 1    aside.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1673, Assembly Print 7870A, substituted earlier 

 4    by Assemblymember Santabarbara, an act to amend 

 5    the Town Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1674, Senate Print 7106A, by Senator Mannion, an 

20    act to amend the Social Services Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               4918

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1675, Senate Print 7136, by Senator Serino, an 

10    act to amend the Highway Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1676, Senate Print 7139, by Senator Palumbo, an 

25    act to amend the Highway Law.


                                                               4919

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1678, Senate Print 7150, by Senator Gianaris, an 

15    act to amend Chapter 17 of the Laws of 2012.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               4920

 1    Calendar 1678, those Senators voting in the 

 2    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 3    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

 4    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 5    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

 6    Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1679, Senate Print 7163, by Senator Boyle, an act 

12    authorizing the West Babylon Church of God of 

13    Prophecy, Inc., to file an application for 

14    retroactive real property tax exemption.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1679, those Senators voting in the 


                                                               4921

 1    negative are Senators Akshar and O'Mara.

 2                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1680, Senate Print 7179, by Senator Persaud, an 

 7    act to amend the Family Court Act and the 

 8    Executive Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1680, those Senators voting in the 

20    negative are Senators Gallivan, Oberacker and 

21    Ortt.

22                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4922

 1    1681, Senate Print 7190, by Senator Thomas, an 

 2    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.  

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1682, Senate Print 7191, by Senator Ryan, an act 

17    to amend the Election Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               4923

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1682, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 5    Gallivan, Gaughran, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, 

 6    Lanza, Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 7    Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, 

 8    Tedisco and Weik.

 9                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 21.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1683, Senate Print 7197, by Senator Skoufis, an 

14    act to amend Chapter 704 of the Laws of 1991.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               4924

 1    is passed.

 2                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

 3    reading of today's calendar.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Okay, we're 

 5    going to move to the controversial calendar, 

 6    Madam President, beginning with -- if I can find 

 7    the right calendar number -- Calendar 1642.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will ring the bell.

10                 The Secretary will read.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1642, Senate Print 5257C, by Senator Gianaris, an 

13    act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

15    Weik.

16                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  Madam President, through you, 

18    will the sponsor yield for questions.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

21    sponsor yield? 

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    sponsor will yield.

25                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much.  


                                                               4925

 1    This is an important topic, it's a serious 

 2    matter.  Homelessness is something that I see on 

 3    the rise in my district as well as throughout 

 4    New York State, so I'm very interested in 

 5    figuring out how this program actually works.  

 6                 Is it limited to cities or does 

 7    it -- is it applicable to suburbs?  

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   This bill would 

 9    have statewide application.

10                 SENATOR WEIK:   I'm sorry?

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   It would have 

12    statewide application.  It applies throughout the 

13    state.

14                 SENATOR WEIK:   Okay, so -- 

15    Madam President, through you.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    sponsor will yield.

21                 SENATOR WEIK:   Is there a limit to 

22    the number of individuals in the area, or is it 

23    applicable to rural areas and suburban areas 

24    alike?

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Once again, it 


                                                               4926

 1    has application throughout the State of New York.

 2                 SENATOR WEIK:   Okay.  

 3    Madam President, through you, will the sponsor 

 4    continue to yield.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

 6    sponsor yield?

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR WEIK:   I am very glad to 

11    hear that, because I am from a suburban area and 

12    we do have a rise in homelessness.  And so I'm 

13    just curious, how does this program work?  If, 

14    for example, my town wanted to convert eligible 

15    hotels into affordable housing, how would they 

16    access the program?  

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Well, currently 

18    the program is funded with $100 million we've had 

19    in the State Budget we passed earlier this year.  

20    There is some hope that we will also be able to 

21    access federal funds that have come through.  

22                 Now, in terms of how it works, 

23    the -- it's the Housing Trust Fund Corporation 

24    that will be administering this on behalf of the 

25    state, and they would identify properties that 


                                                               4927

 1    qualify and then either purchase them on behalf 

 2    of the state or contract with a nonprofit to 

 3    operate the properties.

 4                 SENATOR WEIK:   Madam President, 

 5    through you, will the sponsor continue to yield.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 7    sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    sponsor yields.  

11                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

12    Senator Gianaris.  And that was stated in your 

13    bill.  However, it doesn't clarify the question I 

14    was looking for.  

15                 So if my municipality wanted to 

16    access this fund, what steps would they take in 

17    order to proceed?

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   This is a 

19    program administered by the state through the 

20    Housing Trust Fund Corporation.  So the 

21    municipality could be in touch with the agency 

22    and collaborate with them if they have a specific 

23    property in mind.

24                 SENATOR WEIK:   Great, thank you 

25    very much.


                                                               4928

 1                 Madam President, through you, will 

 2    the sponsor continue to yield.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 4    sponsor yield?   

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR WEIK:   So these properties 

 9    shall be owned, operated and managed by 

10    appropriate nonprofit organizations through the 

11    use of government agency funding to acquire the 

12    property.  Will they be the owners on the deed?

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yeah, the 

14    nonprofit that operates the property would be the 

15    owner on the deed.

16                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, sir.  

17                 Madam President, through you, will 

18    the sponsor continue to yield.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

20    sponsor yield?

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    sponsor yields.

24                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

25                 So as the nonprofit is now the owner 


                                                               4929

 1    on the deed, will they continue to receive 

 2    funding from the state in order to maintain that 

 3    property, and will they be subject to property 

 4    taxes?  

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Okay, the -- I'm 

 6    informed that the nonprofits would enter into a 

 7    regulatory agreement with either the state or a 

 8    local agency.  That often includes provisions for 

 9    how they would handle property taxes.  And they 

10    would also be free to access other funds, not 

11    specifically in this program, to continue to 

12    maintain the property going forward.

13                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

14                 Madam President, through you, will 

15    the sponsor continue to yield.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    sponsor yields.  

21                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you so much.  

22    And I appreciate your time for this.

23                 Just to clarify, so that nonprofit 

24    would still be responsible for paying property 

25    taxes on that location, is that correct?


                                                               4930

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   It all depends 

 2    on what agreement they reach with the appropriate 

 3    agencies.  Oftentimes these things are negotiated 

 4    in the form of PILOTs or other agreements that 

 5    don't require them to pay the full freight on 

 6    property taxes.

 7                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, Senator, 

 8    I appreciate that.  

 9                 Madam President, through you, will 

10    the sponsor continue to yield.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR WEIK:   I apologize for the 

17    detail of these questions, but it does affect the 

18    community.  So my question to you is, if there 

19    are individuals or students who are living in 

20    these housing units and they're not paying 

21    property taxes, it does impact the community, as 

22    they would have to make up the difference if they 

23    are a tax-exempt entity or if there is a lack of 

24    funding.  

25                 Are most of these properties -- do 


                                                               4931

 1    you anticipate that they would be tax-exempt?  Or 

 2    do you expect that they would be participating in 

 3    paying school taxes?

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   It would be up 

 5    to the locality whether they choose to enter into 

 6    such an agreement or not.  And so all of this 

 7    would be with local input and approval, I would 

 8    imagine, so whatever a individual case requires 

 9    or is seen as an appropriate agreement by the 

10    administering agencies, that will be the case.  

11                 So in some instances a locality may 

12    decide to not require or reduce the amount of 

13    taxes required; in other cases, they may not do 

14    that.  But we're not dictating that in this bill.

15                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, sir, I 

16    appreciate that. 

17                 Madam President, will the sponsor 

18    continue to yield.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

20    sponsor yield?

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    sponsor yields.

24                 SENATOR WEIK:   So how much funding 

25    has been dedicated for the Housing Our Neighbors 


                                                               4932

 1    with Dignity Act?  Do we have an exact number?  

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.  In the 

 3    State Budget it was $100 million.

 4                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much, 

 5    Senator.  

 6                 Madam President, will the sponsor 

 7    continue to yield.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 9    sponsor yield?

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much.

14                 Under this program, do all regions 

15    of the state have parity in trying to convert 

16    vacant properties into affordable housing?  

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.  There is 

18    no preference amongst the different regions of 

19    the state.

20                 To clarify, counsel here informs me 

21    that the $100 million that has already been 

22    allocated is specified for usage within New York 

23    City, but it is expected that that will be a tiny 

24    fraction of the total monies in the program 

25    because we're anticipating as much as $2 billion 


                                                               4933

 1    in federal money that will end up flowing through 

 2    this program.

 3                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

 4                 Madam President, through you, will 

 5    the sponsor continue to yield.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 7    sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    sponsor yields.

11                 SENATOR WEIK:   So with that federal 

12    funding, do you anticipate that that's going to 

13    be an ongoing thing, or is this going to be a 

14    one-time funding, as with most of the COVID money 

15    that we've received from the federal government?  

16    Or is this -- is it short term?

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Well, we always, 

18    as we do every year, enact a State Budget that 

19    evaluates ongoing needs.  But the money we're 

20    discussing currently is specifically to deal with 

21    a situation that has been exacerbated by COVID.  

22                 So there are a number of properties 

23    that are in distressed condition and up for sale 

24    or available in different ways because of the 

25    fact that hotels and other commercial properties 


                                                               4934

 1    are in disuse through the pandemic.  And the idea 

 2    was to provide this funding at this time when 

 3    those properties are available for purchase for 

 4    affordable -- permanent affordable housing and 

 5    supportive housing.

 6                 If you're talking about not the 

 7    purchase but just the ongoing operation and 

 8    maintenance of these programs, then that's 

 9    something that will be subject to appropriation 

10    in future budget years.

11                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, sir.

12                 Madam President, through you, will 

13    the sponsor continue to yield.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR WEIK:   So that brings me to 

20    my next question.  Of course taking these 

21    properties, some of them being commercial real 

22    estate, changing them into a livable space is 

23    going to be quite costly.  

24                 Out of the funds that have been 

25    allocated, how many housing units do you 


                                                               4935

 1    anticipate being able to have after renovating 

 2    and making these properties suitable for living?

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   So it's about 

 4    280 units, we anticipate, with the $100 million 

 5    that was already allocated.  But if you multiply 

 6    that by 20, if we think $2 billion in federal 

 7    money will be available, then what would that be?  

 8    Twenty-eight hundred times two, about 5600 units.  

 9                 But that obviously depends on where 

10    the property's located, what the cost of 

11    purchasing it is, et cetera.

12                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, sir.  

13                 Madam President, through you, will 

14    the sponsor continue to yield.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

16    sponsor yield?

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much, 

21    sir.  And I appreciate your time.  I do expect 

22    this will probably be my last question.  

23                 But are these provisions that ensure 

24    that distressed hotels and commercial property 

25    are actually converted into affordable housing as 


                                                               4936

 1    opposed to luxury housing?

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm sorry, can 

 3    you repeat that?  I missed --  

 4                 SENATOR WEIK:   Sure.  Are there 

 5    provisions that ensure that the distressed hotels 

 6    and commercial property are actually converted 

 7    into affordable housing as opposed to luxury 

 8    housing?

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes, there are 

10    specific conditions and requirements in the 

11    legislation that ensures it cannot and will not 

12    be used for luxury housing.  The AMI percentage 

13    that is required is 80 percent or lower, which is 

14    certainly not luxury housing.

15                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much.  

16                 Madam President, through you, will 

17    the sponsor continue to yield.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

19    sponsor yield?

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

22    sponsor yields.

23                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, Senator.  

24    I'm sorry, I faked you out, that was not my last 

25    question.


                                                               4937

 1                 (Laughter.)

 2                 SENATOR WEIK:   I actually -- how 

 3    much community input will be permitted in the 

 4    allowing of these housing units?  How much 

 5    community input is going to be permitted?

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   First of all, 

 7    let me just say I appreciate the Senator's 

 8    politeness, but we are here to answer questions 

 9    and engage in debate, so feel free to ask away.

10                 There was much discussion in the 

11    drafting of this bill about what we would do 

12    relative to local zoning ordinances.  And left 

13    intact was the local zoning regulations.  So a 

14    locality, if the zoning is nonconforming to the 

15    current zoning, it would have to approve any 

16    changes.

17                 SENATOR WEIK:   Okay.  

18    Madam President, through you, will the sponsor 

19    continue to yield.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

21    sponsor yield? 

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    sponsor yields.

25                 SENATOR WEIK:   So does that -- is 


                                                               4938

 1    that to imply that communities would not have the 

 2    opportunity to have an input whether or not a 

 3    property that pops up in their community is now 

 4    going to be turned into affordable housing or 

 5    homelessness -- a shelter for homelessness?  Or 

 6    will they have the opportunity to have a say in 

 7    that?

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.  No, it's 

 9    not meant to imply that at all.  

10                 The point I was trying to make, and 

11    maybe I was inarticulate in doing so, is that 

12    there are local zoning ordinances in place that 

13    regulate these properties.  So if a place is 

14    zoned commercial, then you have a commercial 

15    building there.  

16                 If you wanted to purchase that 

17    building and turn it into residential use, you 

18    would need a change in zoning, and the locality 

19    government and the residents of that locality 

20    would have the opportunity for their input at 

21    that point.

22                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you very much.  

23                 Madam President, through you, will 

24    the sponsor continue to yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 


                                                               4939

 1    sponsor yield?

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.  

 5                 SENATOR WEIK:   I faked you out 

 6    again; that was my last question.  I apologize.  

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you so much 

 9    for your help today.  

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   No problem.  

11    Thank you.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

13    you.  

14                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

15    to be heard?

16                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

17    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Jackson to explain his vote.


                                                               4940

 1                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.

 3                 I rise in support of this bill by 

 4    Senator Gianaris, Bill Number S5257C, which is 

 5    called the Housing Our Neighbors with Dignity 

 6    Act, or HONDA.  

 7                 We have a unique opportunity, 

 8    Madam President, to provide deeply affordable, 

 9    permanent housing to our lowest-income and 

10    formerly homeless neighbors by converting 

11    distressed commercial properties like hotels.  

12                 As you heard in the discussion, 

13    there's $100 million set aside right now, and 

14    more will become available for the state to 

15    purchase these properties across New York State 

16    so that responsible nonprofits or community land 

17    trusts can give some of our most vulnerable 

18    community members a dignified home.

19                 Make no mistake about it, there are 

20    not -- these are not like the temporary shelters 

21    that's sprung up in part of my district during 

22    COVID-19 out of necessity.  These would be homes 

23    where people can live and enjoy.

24                 The surrounding neighborhoods will 

25    have a say over the disposition and any zoning 


                                                               4941

 1    changes to make these conversions possible.  And 

 2    that's a good thing, Madam President, to provide 

 3    robust community evaluation to ensure that this 

 4    new housing becomes part of the community.  

 5                 And by focusing on people who have 

 6    experienced homelessness and people with an 

 7    income average of 50 percent of the area median 

 8    income, we are focusing on people with the 

 9    highest need for stable housing.  Providing 

10    dignified housing for them will address mental 

11    health concerns, criminal justice involvement, 

12    family stability and much more.  

13                 My thanks to Housing Justice For All 

14    and Senator Gianaris for getting this important 

15    piece of legislation across the finish line.  

16    Passing HONDA today is a great move towards 

17    housing justice in New York State.  

18                 Madam President, I proudly vote aye.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Senator Gianaris to explain his 

22    vote.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, Madam 

24    President.  

25                 I am thrilled we are getting this 


                                                               4942

 1    important program rolling.  We have an affordable 

 2    housing crisis in New York that predates the 

 3    pandemic but has been made much worse.  And we 

 4    simultaneously have a problem with commercial and 

 5    hotel properties that have been vacant for 

 6    months, and many of which are available for sale 

 7    as a result.

 8                 This is a commonsense solution which 

 9    marries those two problems.  With appropriate 

10    funding we will be able to purchase some of these 

11    properties that are on the market, turn them into 

12    residential use so that the people who are 

13    housing-stressed can have a place to go, have a 

14    place to live permanently, affordable, and in 

15    many cases with supportive services on-site, and 

16    at the same time helping these commercial 

17    properties and hotels be relieved of the burden 

18    of staying open with nobody in attendance.

19                 And so 100 million is a start, but 

20    it is by no means enough.  We are hoping to 

21    access federal monies.  And as the program keeps 

22    rolling, I'm sure we'll have this conversation in 

23    next year's budget.  But this is the way that 

24    housing opportunities should be created, not just 

25    thrown to the market for more luxury units to be 


                                                               4943

 1    built, but genuine affordability.  

 2                 And when we say affordable, truly 

 3    affordable housing -- a lot of times we say 

 4    "affordable" and the income levels are set at 

 5    unaffordable levels regardless.  This is truly 

 6    affordable opportunities for people in need, and 

 7    I'm thrilled that we're passing it today.  I 

 8    thank my colleagues for supporting it.  

 9                 I vote yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Gianaris to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                 Announce the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1642, those Senators voting in the 

15    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 

16    Jordan, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

17    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

18                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 14.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 Senator Gianaris.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:  Okay, thank you.  

23    Madam President, next we're going to move to 

24    Calendar 788.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


                                                               4944

 1    Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    788, Senate Print 4730, by Senator Krueger, an 

 4    act to amend the State Finance Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Palumbo.  Sorry -- Senator Stec.

 7                 SENATOR STEC:   That's all right, 

 8    Madam President.  I've been called worse.  

 9                 (Laughter.)

10                 SENATOR STEC:   Good afternoon, 

11    Madam President.  If the sponsor wouldn't mind 

12    yielding for a couple of questions, please, 

13    Senator Krueger.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Of course I will 

17    yield to Senator Lanza.  

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Senator Stec.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR STEC:   I hope we're not 

23    trying to say that all of us Republicans look the 

24    same.  

25                 (Laughter.)


                                                               4945

 1                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  Thank 

 2    you, everybody.

 3                 Senator Krueger, if you wouldn't 

 4    mind yielding for a couple of questions.  

 5                 The first, the purpose of the bill, 

 6    please.

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Of course I will 

 8    yield.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    Senator yields.

11                 SENATOR STEC:   If you wouldn't 

12    mind, Senator, the purpose of this bill, please?  

13                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Oh, sorry.  Thank 

14    you.  Excuse me, I didn't hear you completely.

15                 The purpose of this bill is to fix a 

16    loophole in the existing tax law.  When we put 

17    through the False Claims Act for taxes about 

18    11 years ago, we I believe unintentionally left 

19    out the situation where if people fail to file a 

20    tax return at all, we don't have any mechanism 

21    for going after them.  While if they file a false 

22    document, we can bring false claims.  

23                 So it's simply adding to the 

24    existing law a Paragraph H so that if you were 

25    knowingly and intentionally not filing taxes, 


                                                               4946

 1    then that is also a category that we can use 

 2    false claims challenges to.

 3                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  If the sponsor would continue 

 5    to yield.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 7    sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    sponsor yields.

11                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.

13                 Senator, has the Department of Tax 

14    and Finance identified this themselves as an 

15    issue that they want resolved, and are they 

16    supportive of this legislation?  

17                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   The Department of 

18    Tax and Finance currently doesn't have a 

19    commissioner.  And they rarely comment on bills 

20    until they pass both houses and are asked to do 

21    so by the Governor.

22                 I will say that the person who 

23    worked with me to draft this legislation had a 

24    full career at Tax and Finance and then retired 

25    and has joined us in the Senate.


                                                               4947

 1                 So I think I pretty much used the 

 2    most qualified person I could find to help me 

 3    draft the bill, from the perspective of New York 

 4    State Tax and Finance.

 5                 SENATOR STEC:   All right, thank 

 6    you.  Madam President, if the sponsor would 

 7    continue to yield.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 9    sponsor yield?

10                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    sponsor yields.  

13                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you very much, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 So isn't Tax and Finance the party 

16    that would decide if a return is required?  And 

17    assuming so, wouldn't claims -- couldn't claims 

18    be made under the False Claims Act while Tax and 

19    Finance is reviewing a return?  

20                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I apologize, I 

21    just need to ask you to repeat that.  I'm having 

22    a little hearing problem with the system here.

23                 SENATOR STEC:   Sure.  Shouldn't Tax 

24    and Finance be the party that decides if a return 

25    is required or not?


                                                               4948

 1                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So the catch-22 

 2    with this situation is if you file a false tax 

 3    return, Tax and Finance is looking at it and 

 4    making their own evaluation of what level of 

 5    investigation is required, and follow-up.

 6                 If you never file a tax return, it's 

 7    exceptionally difficult for Tax and Finance to be 

 8    the first entity discovering that something has 

 9    gone wrong.

10                 So the logic is if you're allowing 

11    whistleblowers to come forward and say, I believe 

12    this company has not filed their correct taxes, 

13    Tax and Finance can then start investigation and 

14    they can coordinate with the Attorney General's 

15    office on follow-up, which is pretty much exactly 

16    what's happened for the 11 years we've had the 

17    False Claims Act and cases have been brought.  I 

18    don't believe the AG has handled any cases that 

19    weren't in coordination with Tax and Finance.

20                 But again, it's very hard to picture 

21    Tax and Finance starting the process when there 

22    is no paper trail for them to be exploring.

23                 SENATOR STEC:   Madam President, if 

24    the sponsor would continue to yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 


                                                               4949

 1    sponsor yield?

 2                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes, 

 3    Madam President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you.  

 7                 Just so that I'm clear, because 

 8    perhaps I wasn't, so the purpose of this bill is 

 9    to go after people who have just failed to file a 

10    tax return.

11                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Correct.  

12                 I don't know about you, Senator, it 

13    infuriates me when some people don't pay the 

14    taxes that they legally owe us, because that 

15    means somebody else is going to end up having to 

16    pay more taxes.  And if it's in a corporate 

17    structure, it means the companies that are 

18    following the laws and paying their taxes are 

19    ending up at a competitive disadvantage with 

20    those companies who decide maybe they can get 

21    away without paying their taxes.  

22                 So I think this is actually a 

23    crucial, good public policy and moral issue for 

24    the State of New York.  We want to make sure it's 

25    an even playing field for everyone.  We want to 


                                                               4950

 1    make sure the laws are followed by everyone.  And 

 2    when people aren't paying us the taxes that we 

 3    are owed, trust us, we'll end up coming up with a 

 4    new tax for somebody else to have to pay to get 

 5    us that money.  

 6                 So that is the intention of this 

 7    bill.  

 8                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  Thank 

 9    you, Madam President.  Thank you for answering my 

10    questions, Senator Krueger.  That's all.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

12    you, Senator.

13                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

14    to be heard? 

15                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

16    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

17                 Read the last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               4951

 1    Calendar 788, those Senators voting in the 

 2    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Helming, 

 3    Jordan, Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Serino, 

 4    Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 11.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next let's go to 

10    Calendar 791, please.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    Secretary will read.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    791, Senate Print Number 5560A, by 

15    Senator Reichlin-Melnick, an act to amend the 

16    Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

18    Palumbo.

19                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Well, good 

20    afternoon, Madam President.  Would the sponsor 

21    yield for a few questions, please.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

23    sponsor yield?

24                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


                                                               4952

 1    sponsor will yield.

 2                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 3    Senator.  How are you?

 4                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Good, 

 5    thank you.

 6                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   I have a few 

 7    questions, if I may, regarding what this bill 

 8    does regarding changing existing law.  

 9                 But first, on page 2, Section 2, it 

10    makes reference to Section 2807-s of the Public 

11    Health Law.  And can you tell me what that 

12    reference means or what that section is?  Is that 

13    something commonly referred to as the covered 

14    lives assessment?  And can you explain to us what 

15    that is, please?  

16                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 

17    you, Madam President, the covered lives 

18    assessment is a program which is essentially a 

19    tax on health insurance companies around the 

20    state that already exists.  It funds a number of 

21    services.  And we are proposing in this bill to 

22    make sure that there is an additional $40 million 

23    appropriated -- or not appropriated, but through 

24    this covered lives assessment, which will be used 

25    to pay these critical early intervention claims 


                                                               4953

 1    that are so important for families to make sure 

 2    that their kids get the services they need in a 

 3    timely way.

 4                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.

 5                 Through you, Madam President, will 

 6    the sponsor continue to yield.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 8    sponsor yield?

 9                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, I 

10    do.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

14    Senator.  

15                 So you indicate it's a tax on health 

16    insurance companies.  So this will be an 

17    additional $40 million in taxes that would be 

18    implemented by this bill?  

19                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 

20    you, Madam President, my understanding is that 

21    the covered lives is currently about $1.1 billion 

22    that is being paid by insurance companies in this 

23    state, and has been for a number of years.  

24                 So this would add less than 

25    3 percent to that total in order to make sure 


                                                               4954

 1    that families of children who need these services 

 2    to avoid significant developmental delays are 

 3    able to get them covered as soon as they possibly 

 4    can, and without the long delays that could have 

 5    far worse outcomes and then cost far more both 

 6    for the families and the insurance companies down 

 7    the line.

 8                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Will the sponsor 

 9    continue to yield, please.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

11    sponsor yield?

12                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, I 

13    do.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   So if I'm 

17    understanding it right, Senator, because of 

18    course these individuals with disabilities -- not 

19    that we should fund this, we must.  And I think 

20    we're absolutely in agreement.  

21                 So this bill just shifts those 

22    expenses and costs from municipalities to the 

23    insurance carriers?  Am I accurate in saying 

24    that?  

25                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 


                                                               4955

 1    you, Madam President, that's my understanding, is 

 2    that we think the current system is not working, 

 3    it's not working for families.  

 4                 It's not really working for the 

 5    insurance companies either, because they are 

 6    having to deny and process a lot of these claims.  

 7                 The data we have show that less than 

 8    20 percent of claims are accepted, which then 

 9    leaves families having to find other ways to get 

10    their expenses paid for.  

11                 It's a huge fiscal burden on 

12    counties.  That's why the New York Association of 

13    Counties has made this one of their top-priority 

14    bills, with an estimated $20 million savings to 

15    counties and county property taxpayers around the 

16    state.  

17                 So I think that this is a bill that 

18    will I think more appropriately put the costs 

19    where they belong, and not leave it to our local 

20    governments to pick up the costs for these 

21    critical services.

22                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Will the sponsor 

23    continue to yield.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               4956

 1                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, 

 2    gladly.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.

 5                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 6    Senator.

 7                 So I'm clear -- and I think that 

 8    you've outlined it so that I get it pretty 

 9    specifically.  These claims are always ultimately 

10    paid either by the carriers if they accept the 

11    claim.  If they reject it and say, for example, 

12    it's not medically necessary, then the counties 

13    would have to bear the burden.  

14                 They would still pay the claim; it's 

15    not as if they weren't getting the services.  

16    This is just a matter of who pays, and now the 

17    pendulum, so to speak, is swinging toward the 

18    health insurance plans, is that accurate?

19                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 

20    you, Madam President, that is basically accurate, 

21    except that although it is the case that claims 

22    are ultimately paid, in the meantime there can be 

23    long delays in getting the services.  

24                 And because of the delays in paying 

25    practitioners, we've seen the number of 


                                                               4957

 1    practitioners who perform these services drop 

 2    over the last several years in this state because 

 3    they face delays getting reimbursement, and it's 

 4    harder and harder for them to stay in business.  

 5                 And so what we hear is that more and 

 6    more families are waiting to get these services.  

 7    And again, the longer they wait, the more 

 8    complications there may be for the children.

 9                 And so just to cite a couple of 

10    things here, in Franklin County, up by the 

11    Canadian border, agencies have shut down in 2016 

12    because of inadequate reimbursement rates, 

13    leaving dozens of children and families without 

14    services.  Two years later, approximately half 

15    the children eligible for EI services in 

16    Franklin County were on a waitlist for services.  

17                 In Monroe County, 319 children, 

18    representing 20 percent of county children 

19    identified as needing EI services, were on a 

20    waitlist for at least 30 days between January and 

21    July, 2017.  And in the past year, two of the 

22    largest providers of these services in 

23    Monroe County, who served more than 400 children, 

24    have stopped providing service coordination.  

25                 And similar statistics from around 


                                                               4958

 1    the state.  So the delay in payment really does 

 2    have consequences.  

 3                 And we think this is a more 

 4    streamlined system to get payment to 

 5    practitioners quickly and make sure that there's 

 6    no delays for families who need service.

 7                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 8    Senator.  Would you continue to yield, please.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, 

12    gladly.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  

16                 Through you, Madam President, is the 

17    sponsor at all concerned about -- in light of the 

18    fact now that insurance carriers will be paying 

19    these additional costs, that that will just 

20    simply be passed through premiums down to the 

21    insured individuals?  So the insureds now 

22    obviously would have to pay an increase in 

23    premium because of this additional $40 million in 

24    tax that this bill would implement.

25                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 


                                                               4959

 1    you, Madam President.  Of course it is the case 

 2    with insurance generally that all of us pay in 

 3    some ways for services we may not use.  You know, 

 4    if we pay -- and we hope never to use insurance 

 5    services.  And so every service that we cover 

 6    would in some small sense perhaps be trickled 

 7    down through a premium.  

 8                 We think the actual increase on this 

 9    would be extremely small, because we're talking 

10    over the entire state, $40 million.  And keep in 

11    mind that insurers are currently paying about 

12    $13 million on these claims each year in the 

13    state, which they no longer will be required to 

14    do.  So we're actually looking at only about 

15    $26 million to $27 million, spread out over every 

16    policyholder in the state.  

17                 Even if they really did try to pass 

18    100 percent on, which we certainly hope and 

19    expect they would not do, we are not talking 

20    about a significant increase, and we are talking 

21    about something that is going to make a 

22    meaningful difference in the lives of thousands 

23    of kids around New York, and their families, in 

24    getting them services they need in a quick and 

25    timely manner.  


                                                               4960

 1                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you again, 

 2    Senator.  Would you continue to yield, please.

 3                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, 

 4    gladly.

 5                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  

 6                 So does this bill also completely 

 7    eliminate claims-based type of coverage and 

 8    reimbursement?  Is this done basically, now that 

 9    it's covered lives, everyone under the plan is 

10    covered, the primary payer will always be the 

11    health plan, and now they can't even evaluate 

12    whether or not a particular service is 

13    necessarily medically necessary and fits within 

14    the criteria under the plan contract?

15                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 

16    you, Madam President, the insurers would no 

17    longer be reviewing the claims at all.  They are 

18    simply -- they are out of the business of having 

19    to process these claims.  

20                 These claims will be reviewed and 

21    processed by the state fiscal agent, who already 

22    has a role, but now we will make sure that that's 

23    where they're going specifically.  And the 

24    insurers no longer need to use their manpower to 

25    review the claims for these services.


                                                               4961

 1                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Through you, 

 2    Madam President, will the sponsor continue to 

 3    yield.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   So in that 

10    regard, there basically is no claims evaluation 

11    process, they just have to pay all claims that 

12    come through, is that accurate?

13                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 

14    you, Madam President.  Currently, as Senator 

15    Palumbo noted earlier, all of the claims for 

16    these services ultimately do get paid.  The only 

17    question is whether it's the insurers that are 

18    paying or the state and local governments.  

19                 So that will not change.  Claims 

20    will continue to be paid.  The only question is 

21    whether we continue to waste people's time and 

22    drive down reimbursement rates by submitting them 

23    to insurance companies who then will deny 85 or 

24    so percent of these claims and kick them back to 

25    the state and the county.  


                                                               4962

 1                 And I think by cutting insurance 

 2    companies out of this and simply having the 

 3    claims directly reviewed by the fiscal agent, 

 4    we're going to get these -- we're going to get 

 5    reimbursement sooner to the practitioners and 

 6    we're going to get services sooner to the 

 7    families that need them.

 8                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 9    Senator.  And one last topic.  I won't say one 

10    last question.  But would you continue to yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Yes, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    sponsor yields.

17                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  And I 

18    see that you have another bill, S7996, on this 

19    same issue.  And just very briefly, that 

20    involves, to my understanding, the surplus from 

21    the claimed lives assessment.  

22                 Is there any reason why you wanted 

23    to bring this one forward instead of that one, 

24    instead of adding a new tax to the health plans?  

25                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Through 


                                                               4963

 1    you, Madam President, I believe the approach that 

 2    we are taking in the bill on the floor is a 

 3    better approach.  

 4                 I'm always open to different 

 5    approaches to solve a problem.  That's one reason 

 6    I was willing to introduce a second bill as well, 

 7    which takes a different approach.  

 8                 But I think this is a better 

 9    approach.  The State Association of Counties 

10    thinks this is a better approach.  And many of 

11    the practitioners in the field feel that this is 

12    going to more effectively help them get the money 

13    that they need in order to stay in business and 

14    keep providing these services.

15                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Terrific.  Thank 

16    you, Senator.

17                 On the bill, please, 

18    Madam President.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Palumbo on the bill.

21                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

22    Senator.  That -- and I do appreciate your time 

23    and that exchange.

24                 And this is a tough -- this is a 

25    tough situation here, because obviously I have 


                                                               4964

 1    been and always will be all for removing mandates 

 2    on counties and municipalities, reducing the 

 3    costs.  However, these claims will get paid.  

 4    This has nothing to do with the extent of the 

 5    payments, because these individuals with 

 6    developmental disabilities, they absolutely need 

 7    these services.  We're all in agreement.  So this 

 8    is just a bill regarding who pays what.

 9                 And when it comes down to it, my 

10    concern is that we have a pool that is better 

11    suited to pay for our developmentally disabled; 

12    individuals' care in a larger municipality, 

13    versus just those who are paying premiums into a 

14    plan.  Because that plan, as it becomes more 

15    expensive, those families who have young children 

16    with these disabilities that need the services 

17    have no choice.  They are going to have that 

18    insurance regardless of cost.  They'll forgo food 

19    on their table to make sure that they can get 

20    proper services for their beloved child.

21                 So that's the dichotomy here.  

22    That's the wrinkle that I'm dealing with.  And I 

23    originally was yea on this, and on my sheet it 

24    may be that way.  But, Madam President, I'm going 

25    to go down on this, I'm going to be nay just for 


                                                               4965

 1    that reason, because those services are paid for 

 2    either way.  

 3                 And this is a laudable goal, and I 

 4    get it.  And Senator Reichlin-Melnick certainly 

 5    is addressing this issue head-on, and that's very 

 6    much appreciated, because this needs to be dealt 

 7    with.  However, simply taking the cost, adding -- 

 8    and as we've said it, on consent, it's a tax.  

 9    It's another $40 million in taxes.  In the 

10    overall scheme of things, it's not a huge 

11    percentage of that entire plan, but these are 

12    numbers that are always just eventually going to 

13    be passed off to the consumer.  

14                 So my concern is for the insureds 

15    and to striking that proper balance.  So this is 

16    a laudable goal, and I'm glad to hear that the 

17    Senator is willing to continue to discuss this.  

18    I just don't know if this is the means or the way 

19    that we can achieve it.

20                 Thank you, Madam President.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

22    you, Senator.

23                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

24    to be heard?

25                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 


                                                               4966

 1    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

 4    act shall take effect January 1, 2022.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Reichlin-Melnick to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR REICHLIN-MELNICK:   Thank 

11    you, Madam President.  

12                 Let's just all imagine for a second 

13    being a new parent and experiencing this 

14    incredible joy holding your newborn child.  You 

15    get back from the hospital and after a few 

16    months, you begin to notice that your child isn't 

17    hitting milestones or doing the same tasks as 

18    other similarly aged children.  

19                 Imagine the questions that would 

20    race through your mind.  The fear that you've 

21    done something wrong or that you're a bad parent.  

22    Scared and anxious, you take a trip to the 

23    pediatrician and you find out that your child has 

24    a delay.  

25                 Thankfully, there are therapies that 


                                                               4967

 1    can help, and your doctor gives a referral for 

 2    early intervention services.  Early intervention 

 3    services can have a massive impact on the 

 4    long-term learning capabilities of children 

 5    because the first three years of a child's life 

 6    is when the brain is growing the fastest.  And 

 7    research has shown that high-quality early 

 8    intervention programs can reduce the incidence of 

 9    future problems in learning.

10                 Armed with this knowledge, filled 

11    with hope, you sit down at your computer and you 

12    begin researching early intervention service 

13    providers.  You call up an office and you're told 

14    that unfortunately they're not taking any new 

15    patients.  You call a second office, and a third, 

16    even one that's located an hour away, but nothing 

17    is available.

18                 Imagine this fear and this 

19    hopelessness that parents in our state are 

20    finding and that comes with knowing that there's 

21    a therapy that can help your child, but you can't 

22    find anywhere to get it.  Knowing that each 

23    passing moment your child doesn't receive this 

24    therapy could have dire implications on their 

25    brain function and their performance for the rest 


                                                               4968

 1    of their life.  

 2                 And now imagine one more thing.  

 3    Imagine that the reason you can't find a provider 

 4    is because the state government has failed to 

 5    hold the health insurance industry accountable 

 6    and has passed the buck on to local counties, and 

 7    in the shuffle the therapists who once provided 

 8    these services in your community have shut their 

 9    doors because they couldn't get paid.  

10                 This is a problem created by the 

11    state, and we have a responsibility to solve it.  

12    My bill will create a statewide early 

13    intervention pool that will use the covered lives 

14    assessment to contribute to the state and county 

15    costs of the early intervention program.  This 

16    bill will provide savings to state and county 

17    governments who currently pay the costs of denied 

18    service reimbursement by third-party payers.  

19                 Of the $20 million in savings to 

20    counties, Rockland County is expected to save 

21    over $214,000 and Westchester County would save 

22    close to $2 million.  Those are counties that I 

23    represent.  

24                 And more importantly, this bill will 

25    help support the Early Intervention Program and 


                                                               4969

 1    its providers by addressing significant changes 

 2    made back in 2013 to the manner in which early 

 3    intervention providers were paid, requiring that 

 4    they directly bill third-party insurers and then, 

 5    after denied claims, submitting them to the state 

 6    fiscal agent for them to collect from commercial 

 7    insurers.  

 8                 Nine years later, however, 

 9    commercial payers still deny claims at incredibly 

10    high rates, more than 85 percent, which leaves 

11    county and state governments paying higher costs 

12    for these services, and has resulted in a steady 

13    decline in the number of early intervention 

14    providers across the state.  

15                 This bill is a step in the right 

16    direction to bolstering the Early Intervention 

17    Program while providing relief for our county 

18    governments.  I want to thank the Majority Leader 

19    for bringing it to a vote, thank our cosponsor 

20    Senator Brouk for her leadership in the 

21    Mental Health Committee, and so many others who 

22    have supported this bill.  

23                 I proudly vote aye.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Reichlin-Melnick to be recorded in the 


                                                               4970

 1    affirmative.

 2                 Announce the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 791, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Akshar, Boyle, Gallivan, 

 6    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Ortt, Palumbo and 

 7    Stec.

 8                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 10.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next we're going 

13    to move to Calendar 1356, please.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

15    Secretary will read.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1356, Assembly Print 6970A, by Assemblymember 

18    Walker, an act to amend the Election Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Borrello.

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

22    would the sponsor yield for a question.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

24    Myrie, do you yield?  

25                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.


                                                               4971

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Yes, thank you, 

 4    Senator Myrie.  Appreciate it.  Good to see you.

 5                 So this bill deals with someone 

 6    being able to file an electronic application for 

 7    an absentee ballot, but it's not required for 

 8    them to have a signature with that application 

 9    that's coming through -- I'm assuming email or 

10    through a Board of Elections portal.

11                 So with that in mind, how will the 

12    Board of Elections know that the request is 

13    actually coming from the registered voter?  

14                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, I would note that through 

16    COVID-19 we actually passed legislation that 

17    would allow for these sorts of applications for 

18    an absentee ballot without a signature.  We did 

19    that throughout the 2020 election without 

20    incident.

21                 But I would also note that the bill 

22    doesn't require that there not be a signature.  

23    In most instances, you can provide an electronic 

24    signature.  But voters who apply for absentee 

25    ballots also have their signatures stored either 


                                                               4972

 1    in the DMV or the Board of Elections or another 

 2    state agency.  This bill calls for the State 

 3    Board of Elections to access the signature 

 4    already on file should they not be able to 

 5    provide it.

 6                 Now, if they still do not have a 

 7    signature present, the bill calls for that 

 8    individual to, at the time of signing their 

 9    absentee ballot -- which is the signature that is 

10    incredibly important.  I'll remind folks that 

11    this is just for the application -- that they 

12    would then have to provide their signature along 

13    with that.

14                 And so there are many available 

15    opportunities for individuals to provide the 

16    signature.  

17                 There has been no reports here in 

18    the State of New York of people falsely providing 

19    signatures.  And the bill also states that 

20    individuals would do so at the penalty of 

21    perjury.  You know, I've said this before on the 

22    floor -- we like to think that our constituents 

23    love us, but not enough for them to go to jail 

24    for.  And so I think it's important for us to 

25    recognize those penalties in the bill.


                                                               4973

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 2    will the sponsor continue to yield.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 4    sponsor yield?

 5                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I guess I'm 

 9    unclear.  You're saying that we have signatures 

10    on file, like at the DMV or Social Services.  And 

11    I understand that.  But there is no signature 

12    required to make that request via email or a web 

13    portal.  

14                 So I understand there's a signature 

15    on file, but that really doesn't matter, right?  

16    How do we know that the person that has sent that 

17    email, that the person that has submitted that 

18    application through a Board of Elections web 

19    portal, is actually the voter?  That doesn't 

20    answer the question.

21                 SENATOR MYRIE:   So through you, 

22    Madam President, I want to clarify again that the 

23    bill does require a signature.  

24                 But in the instance where that is 

25    not available or where they cannot find that on 


                                                               4974

 1    the state records, there are provisions on how 

 2    you can provide that signature.

 3                 And should your signature not be 

 4    available in any DMV record or any of the state 

 5    agency records, under the penalty of perjury you 

 6    would be required to submit that or upload that 

 7    or send it via email.  And there have not been -- 

 8    I will remind us that this is the status quo 

 9    right now, and there have not been instances of 

10    fraud where an individual is submitting a 

11    signature that does not belong to them.

12                 But more importantly, the signature 

13    for the application is important, but the 

14    signature on the absentee ballot is the one that 

15    counts for the vote.  And so, you know, I want to 

16    distinguish between the application and the 

17    absentee ballot.  If you have not been able to 

18    provide a signature for the application, you 

19    certainly can provide it when you are signing the 

20    absentee ballot.

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

22    will the sponsor continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Absolutely.  


                                                               4975

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, first of 

 4    all, Senator, I think that we certainly know that 

 5    we did some extraordinary things in an 

 6    extraordinary time during this pandemic, a lot of 

 7    things that we did out of necessity.

 8                 But I'll point out that we really 

 9    have no way to prove whether or not we had any 

10    instances of fraud, because we didn't have a 

11    signature to compare it to.

12                 So you can say it didn't happen, but 

13    it's because we lowered the standard -- and I'll 

14    give an example later -- which basically removes 

15    the check and balance of a signature from a 

16    ballot application to the actual ballot itself.  

17                 But -- so I'll ask my question a 

18    different way, because I don't think I'm getting 

19    to the answer.  What's stopping someone from 

20    requesting a ballot on behalf of someone else?  

21    If you're going to go to the Board of Elections 

22    website, you're going to fill out an application 

23    and a ballot will be sent to you because of that 

24    request, how do we know the person that's 

25    entering that information on the BOE website is 


                                                               4976

 1    actually the voter?

 2                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President.  So I think I understand the 

 4    question correctly.  The question on whether we 

 5    are submitting fraudulent ballots I think is an 

 6    important one, but I have to again go back to the 

 7    point that for comparison purposes, the signature 

 8    on the absentee ballot -- not the application, on 

 9    the ballot, is what's important.

10                 So in your hypothetical, assuming 

11    that there are scores of people that are 

12    requesting absentee ballots for other folks, you 

13    still have to sign that ballot when you submit it 

14    to the State Board of Elections.  And they still 

15    have to compare it to the records.  

16                 And that again, I would emphasize, 

17    is not disturbed by this bill.

18                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you.

19                 Madam President, will the sponsor 

20    continue to yield.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

22    sponsor yield? 

23                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    sponsor yields.


                                                               4977

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I'm looking 

 2    at the bill and the amendments that you've made, 

 3    and I draw your attention to line 19 that 

 4    essentially says the voter consents to use an 

 5    electronic copy of the individual's manual 

 6    signature that is in the custody of the 

 7    Department of Motor Vehicles, the State Board of 

 8    Elections, and so on and so forth, as an 

 9    individual's absentee ballot exemplar signature, 

10    or -- and that's the key word -- or provides such 

11    a signature by direct upload in a manner that 

12    complies with the New York State Electronic 

13    Signature and Records Act, and so on.

14                 So what we're basically saying is 

15    you don't have to submit a signature.  You're 

16    stating that we have to have a signature.  

17    However, because of the word "or," we don't.  Why 

18    wouldn't you just have them submit and upload a 

19    wet signature so we have that security?  Why 

20    would you give that option?

21                 SENATOR MYRIE:   So through you, 

22    Madam President, this process -- I would go back 

23    and say that we currently have done that, there 

24    has been no wet signature requirement for the 

25    absentee ballot applications for the 2020 


                                                               4978

 1    elections, and there were not incidents.  

 2                 I know you have said we don't know 

 3    if there have been incidents, and I think it's 

 4    hard for us to sort of go through that conjecture 

 5    analysis trying to prove a negative.

 6                 But the current status quo does not 

 7    require a wet signature.  This is actually a more 

 8    secure process than what we have now, because it 

 9    does require some verification through that 

10    uploading of the signature or provision in person 

11    or otherwise.

12                 If you look at the sort of statutory 

13    construction here, it comes after -- that "or" 

14    provision comes after what we are asking the 

15    voters to do.  And so this is -- in most 

16    instances, voters are going to take part in that 

17    first piece and just uploading it -- I'm sorry, 

18    not uploading, filling out the application as 

19    they have for the past elections.  

20                 This is a really I think unique 

21    instance, when the individual does not have a 

22    signature on record, that we will provide them an 

23    opportunity to apply for the ballot.

24                 Had we not done that, you can 

25    imagine a scenario in which, through no fault of 


                                                               4979

 1    their own, it's through a clerical error by the 

 2    Board of Elections, clerical error by the DMV, 

 3    that their signature is not available.  Now, that 

 4    person, if we don't pass this, would not have the 

 5    opportunity to apply for a ballot.  Through no 

 6    fault of their own, through a clerical error by a 

 7    state agency.

 8                 This is providing -- that "or" 

 9    clause is providing them an opportunity to 

10    provide a signature in the instance that none is 

11    on record.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

13    will the sponsor continue to yield.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

15    sponsor yield? 

16                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I guess what 

20    you're saying is is that if for some reason we 

21    don't have that person's signature on file, then 

22    they can provide it.  Well, why wouldn't we just 

23    have them provide it and not have to worry about 

24    whether or not it's on file with another agency 

25    that has absolutely nothing to do and no relation 


                                                               4980

 1    to the Board of Elections?  Why wouldn't we just 

 2    have them require a signature?  

 3                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

 4    Madam President, there is a signature requirement 

 5    on the ballot.  You have to submit that.  This is 

 6    not removing a signature requirement.  

 7                 We are talking about the application 

 8    for an absentee ballot.  And so I hate to keep 

 9    repeating that point, but it's not that we are 

10    removing a signature requirement.  What is most 

11    important, that ballot submission, still requires 

12    you to sign.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

14    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

16    sponsor yield? 

17                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Absolutely.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   And I understand 

21    we're talking about the application.  I 

22    understand that.  

23                 But, I mean, let's just assume for a 

24    moment that I applied for a credit card and I 

25    gave my signature on the application.  And then 


                                                               4981

 1    when my credit card came, based on your example 

 2    here, that when I go to the store to use the 

 3    credit card, I shouldn't have to sign the credit 

 4    card or the bill of sale because they already 

 5    have my signature on file.  Wouldn't that lead to 

 6    fraud?

 7                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President, I'm not sure if I follow the 

 9    analogy.  

10                 But I would note that we of course 

11    are not talking about your ability to purchase a 

12    nice tie for your father on Father's Day, we are 

13    talking about a person's ability to exercise 

14    their constitutional right and to get access to 

15    the ballot.

16                 And this is, as has been done for 

17    the past year -- many New Yorkers have become 

18    accustomed to this absentee ballot process.  In 

19    fact, it was somewhere in the order of four times 

20    the amount of people utilized this option than 

21    they did in the previous presidential election.  

22    And I would note, again, that we did not have 

23    reported instances of fraud.

24                 And so, you know.  This is a more 

25    secure version of what we've been doing to cope 


                                                               4982

 1    with the COVID-19 emergency and is really about 

 2    giving individuals the easiest access to the 

 3    ballot.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you.

 5                 Madam President, would the sponsor 

 6    continue to yield.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 8    sponsor yield?

 9                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

11    sponsor yields.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So we're talking 

13    about the application and the fact that we don't 

14    have to require a signature.  And you just said 

15    essentially that they shouldn't have to provide 

16    that signature on the application because it is 

17    their constitutional right to cast a vote.

18                 With that logic, then, would you 

19    then agree then you wouldn't have to put your 

20    signature, say, on a pistol permit application to 

21    exercise your Second Amendment rights?  

22                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

23    Madam President.  Respectfully, this bill does 

24    not remove a signature requirement.  It still 

25    requires you to submit a signature on the 


                                                               4983

 1    application, but provides that in the event that 

 2    the signature is not on record with any of the 

 3    state agencies, that you have a pathway to still 

 4    receive a ballot in order to participate in your 

 5    democracy.

 6                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 7    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 9    sponsor yield?

10                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I know you keep 

14    saying that the signature is required on the 

15    application unless we have one on file.  So the 

16    signature is not required on the application, 

17    it's just required that somewhere in the vastness 

18    of state government we have your signature.  Is 

19    that what you're saying?  

20                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

21    Madam President, that is not what I'm saying.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay.  Madam 

23    President, will the sponsor continue to yield.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               4984

 1                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So we know now 

 5    that the ballot itself, the live ballot that the 

 6    person is casting, what are your thoughts -- you 

 7    know, based on what we're seeing now, we're 

 8    removing -- we're kind of lowering the bar, 

 9    lowering the bar, is it your intent at some point 

10    to have to remove the signature requirement on 

11    the ballot envelope itself?  

12                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

13    Madam President, that is not the intent of the 

14    legislation, neither implicitly or explicitly.  

15    There is still a signature requirement on this 

16    application, even in the instance when it's not 

17    on record.  

18                 We're not saying that you can just 

19    apply without having to verify with a signature.  

20    We're just providing an opportunity, should there 

21    not be one on record, for you to do so along with 

22    a signature on the absentee ballot.  And so it is 

23    not our intent at all to remove the signature.

24                 But, you know, I think you're 

25    perhaps suggesting that we are trying to make our 


                                                               4985

 1    elections less secure, and that of course is just 

 2    not true.  We have taken many steps in this 

 3    Majority to open up access to the ballot.  We 

 4    have seen the response from voters in the State 

 5    of New York who have come out in overwhelming 

 6    numbers because it has been easier to vote, and 

 7    have done so without reported instances of fraud.  

 8                 And I would note that we earlier 

 9    today proposed a bill that would help secure our 

10    voting machines, and many folks on your side 

11    voted against that bill, one that would make our 

12    elections more secure.  So it's just a curious 

13    posture to me that you would view this as somehow 

14    making our elections less secure.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President 

16    Will the sponsor continue to yield.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Senator Myrie, 

23    my last question.  Unlike my colleagues, this 

24    really is my last question, so -- I promise.

25                 You know, I'm very concerned about 


                                                               4986

 1    ballot harvesting, which is the unethical 

 2    practice that many people engage in.  So will 

 3    this bill essentially encourage more ballot 

 4    harvesting?  

 5                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Through you, 

 6    Madam President, I'm not aware of current ballot 

 7    harvesting that is taking place, so this will not 

 8    add to that. 

 9                 But, you know, I do share my 

10    colleague's concern about the integrity of our 

11    elections.  That of course is paramount to us 

12    having trust in our government.  And I believe 

13    that the integrity of the elections in New York 

14    have been sound, and there is no data that 

15    implicates otherwise.  

16                 And so we will continue to make it 

17    easier for folks to participate so that they can 

18    take advantage of a right that is enshrined in 

19    this Constitution.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

21    on the bill.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Borrello on the bill.

24                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, Madam 

25    President.  


                                                               4987

 1                 Senator Myrie, thank you very much 

 2    for this engagement.  I agree, I think we both 

 3    are looking for the integrity of our elections.  

 4                 But you mentioned that here in 

 5    New York State we have had secure elections.  

 6    Well, I would beg to differ, unfortunately.  

 7                 First and foremost, I can tell you 

 8    that the Heritage Foundation has done an 

 9    exhaustive list of confirmed cases of election 

10    fraud, and there are thousands of them across the 

11    nation.  And New York has been the victim of them 

12    as well.  And in fact, the chosen tool, the 

13    number-one tool of those that are committing 

14    election fraud is actually absentee ballots.  

15                 And my concern is the fact that we 

16    are making this an easier and easier thing for 

17    criminals to engage in election fraud, which is a 

18    very serious offense, I think we can all agree.  

19    The integrity of our elections is the foundation 

20    of our democracy and our republic.  

21                 So let me point out the 2014 

22    86th Assembly District election.  Mr. Hector 

23    Ramirez, who actually committed election fraud.  

24    And what happened?  Well, several people in his 

25    campaign collected absentee ballots and then 


                                                               4988

 1    fraudulently put signatures on those ballots.  

 2    Now, the only reason he got caught was because we 

 3    had a signature to compare it to on the ballot 

 4    application.

 5                 He initially won the election.  In a 

 6    city as big as New York, he initially won the 

 7    election by I think it was 14 votes.  And then 

 8    during a recount, he lost by three.  So 

 9    Mr. Ramirez was four votes, four fraudulent 

10    absentee ballot votes away from being a member of 

11    the New York State Legislature.

12                 Well, think about that.  For those 

13    of you that think we don't have any documented 

14    cases, that's one.  And as I said before, 

15    Madam President, although many of our colleagues 

16    have left here as criminals, this guy would have 

17    come here by becoming a criminal.  That's a very 

18    serious issue.

19                 There are many examples like this.  

20    But the bottom line is we have essentially 

21    created a situation where we are going to make 

22    our elections less and less secure.  Now, you 

23    might say -- and I will disagree with you -- you 

24    might say there are not any documented cases, but 

25    there's one very serious example, one of many 


                                                               4989

 1    thousands, in fact.  

 2                 But this is about the people's 

 3    confidence in our election process.  If they lack 

 4    confidence -- because we can sit here and we can 

 5    debate, Republican versus Democrat, liberal 

 6    versus conservative.  But at the end of the day, 

 7    the people of New York and the people of the 

 8    United States of America up until recently felt 

 9    that when Election Day came, they had confidence 

10    that their vote counted.  And now, we are 

11    continuing to lower the bar more and more on that 

12    level of confidence.  That is what concerns me.  

13                 This is about the integrity of our 

14    elections.  And making it easier for someone to 

15    do ballot harvesting is going to be a major 

16    problem.  I mean, think about this.  With this 

17    bill, someone could go online, fill out an 

18    application on behalf of somebody else, and have 

19    it sent to that person's house.  Now, that could 

20    be a parent filling it out for an adult child 

21    that no longer lives there.  The ballot comes to 

22    that mailing address.  It could be an elderly 

23    parent or family member who filled it out on 

24    their behalf.  It could be an employer who says:  

25    Ladies and gentlemen that work for me, that I pay 


                                                               4990

 1    you, I have just filled out applications on your 

 2    behalf for ballots.  I really hope that you 

 3    participate in the process.  And by the way, 

 4    here's who I think you should vote for.

 5                 Those are the type of intimidation 

 6    tactics and that borderline fraud -- and fraud 

 7    straight-up -- that will be encouraged by bills 

 8    like this.

 9                 The integrity of our elections is 

10    number one.  I know you want to say it's about 

11    access.  And it is about access, as long as 

12    people think that that is fair and that their 

13    vote truly counts.  And for a guy like Hector 

14    Ramirez to be four fraudulent ballots away from 

15    being a member of this Legislature tells me that 

16    we need to strengthen these things, not weaken 

17    them.

18                 That's why I'll be a no on this.  

19                 Thank you, Madam President.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Are 

21    there any other Senators wishing to be heard?

22                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

23    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

24                 Read the last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               4991

 1    act shall take effect January 1, 2022.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Myrie to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 And thank you, Senator Borrello, for 

10    our exchange.

11                 I just wanted to put on the record 

12    that all studies on fraud in elections have said, 

13    I think unequivocally, that this is not an issue 

14    that comes up.  And I want to point to one 

15    instance, specifically Oregon, that has sent over 

16    a hundred million mail-in ballots over the past 

17    20 years and has had a .0000012 percent instance 

18    of fraud.  That is a 1200-millionth of a percent 

19    of instances of fraud.

20                 And so this is really about making 

21    it as accessible as possible for people to 

22    participate in their democracy.  We've done a lot 

23    in this Majority to continue to do that, and I 

24    look forward to us doing a lot more, particularly 

25    in a climate in the nation where we are calling 


                                                               4992

 1    into question things that we have not called into 

 2    question in the past.

 3                 So I'll be voting in the 

 4    affirmative, and I encourage all my colleagues to 

 5    do the same.  Thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Myrie to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1356, those Senators voting in the 

11    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

12    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

13    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

14    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

15    Weik.

16                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 Senator Gianaris.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next, 

21    Madam President, we're going to move to Senate 

22    Calendar 1672.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4993

 1    1672, Assembly Print 3516, by Assemblymember 

 2    McDonald, an act to amend the Insurance Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Palumbo.

 5                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  Would the sponsor yield for a 

 7    few questions, please.

 8                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   Yes, the sponsor 

 9    yields.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

11    sponsor yields.

12                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Breslin.

14                 I won't keep you long because a 

15    little birdy told me that today was your 

16    birthday.  So happy birthday, Senator.  We wish 

17    you many, many more.

18                 (Applause.)

19                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The first 

20    applause I've ever received on this floor.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   And now I'm going 

23    to get tough with you, so no more Mr. Nice Guy.

24                 Senator, would you mind just telling 

25    us -- I mean, it adds two words to the Insurance 


                                                               4994

 1    Law, right, "or pharmaceutical," this change.

 2                 Could you please tell us generally 

 3    what this bill does and the reason for it to 

 4    be -- the reason why it's necessary?

 5                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   Sure.  It's 

 6    really an explanation of benefits for 

 7    pharmaceuticals.  If you go into a pharmacy or 

 8    you have drugs sent to you from a pharmacy, you'd 

 9    like to know how the pharmacy got them, how much 

10    they paid for them, how much your plan paid for 

11    them, and how much you're paying for them.

12                 Right now it does include -- on the 

13    little bag you get, it has a little price, what 

14    you're paying for it.  Which you generally know, 

15    because you know how much money you took out of 

16    your pocket.  

17                 We just want the explanation of 

18    benefits to be expanded a little bit to give the 

19    consumer, the patient, more knowledge about what 

20    he is paying for through benefits he receives 

21    from the government or benefits he receives 

22    through a paid insurance plan.

23                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

24    Senator.  Would you continue to yield for another 

25    question, please.


                                                               4995

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 2    sponsor yield?

 3                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The sponsor 

 4    yields.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   So, Senator, 

 8    under current law, then, if you receive 

 9    pharmaceuticals in a facility -- a hospital, 

10    nursing home or otherwise -- that is currently 

11    outlined on your explanation of benefits, is that 

12    accurate?  Am I understanding that correctly?  

13    That you get the explanation of benefits for your 

14    stay because you don't actually pay for anything, 

15    and they describe what your carrier paid and what 

16    you would pay, if anything.

17                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   I didn't hear 

18    him.  I can't -- I can't -- Senator, it's not 

19    your fault, it's mine.  I can't hear you.  If you 

20    could speak up a little.

21                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Oh, certainly, 

22    I'll repeat it.  

23                 Under current law, as far as 

24    explanation of benefits, when they are provided, 

25    if someone were to stay in a facility like a 


                                                               4996

 1    hospital or nursing home, your expenses and what 

 2    your carrier pays regarding pharmaceuticals 

 3    administered in the facility, that's already part 

 4    of your explanation of benefits, is that 

 5    accurate?  

 6                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   That's correct.

 7                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  And 

 8    would you continue to yield, please.

 9                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   I continue to 

10    yield.  

11                 SENATOR SERRANO:   The sponsor 

12    yields.

13                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

14    Senator.  So this would only apply to those real 

15    transactions where you're at a pharmacy, is that 

16    fair to say?

17                 SENATOR BRESLIN:  That's correct.  

18    Through you, Madam President.

19                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

20    Senator.  

21                 And through you, Madam President, 

22    would the sponsor continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The sponsor 


                                                               4997

 1    yields.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.

 4                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   So as far as the 

 5    purchase of prescriptions, would this bill apply 

 6    and require an explanation of benefits for 

 7    multiple prescriptions?  Say I buy two or three a 

 8    week.  Is an EOB required for every one of those 

 9    transactions to be provided to the insured?  

10                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   It provides that 

11    every one of those transactions, you would have 

12    to give an accounting, which would include an 

13    explanation of the benefits.  And if the pharmacy 

14    was such that they couldn't coordinate your 

15    prescriptions, then in fact there would be 

16    additional paperwork that would be supplied to 

17    the patient, the purchaser.

18                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Would the sponsor 

19    continue to yield.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

21    sponsor yield?

22                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The sponsor 

23    yields.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    sponsor yields.


                                                               4998

 1                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  

 2                 And, Senator, do you know how many 

 3    commercial prescription drug claims are made in 

 4    New York State a year, roughly?

 5                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   Millions.

 6                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Would the sponsor 

 7    continue to yield.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 9    sponsor yield?

10                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The sponsor 

11    yields.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

15    Senator.  

16                 I have here, from the Kaiser Family 

17    Foundation from 2019:  119,867,278.  So about 120 

18    million drug prescriptions were filed at 

19    pharmacies under commercial plans in 2019.

20                 So my question to you is, do you 

21    have any concern that these increased costs now 

22    for providing these documents, 120 million new 

23    explanations of benefits that will have to be 

24    produced by our insurance carriers?  Does the 

25    sponsor have any concern regarding those costs?  


                                                               4999

 1    Because of course those costs will just be passed 

 2    along to insureds.  

 3                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   I certainly have 

 4    a concern for any additional expense.  But I also 

 5    have concern for what has gone on in the pharmacy 

 6    chain of pharmaceuticals.  I have tremendous 

 7    concern.  

 8                 I want to know, as a legislator and 

 9    as a patient, what the pharmacy is paying for a 

10    particular drug, what the plan is paying, and -- 

11    so I can make some conclusions on was there any 

12    degree of fraud involved or if I look to see if 

13    I'm paying less or more at a national pharmacy 

14    than I might be at an independent pharmacy.  

15                 So there's a lot of information for 

16    that short period that you can collect that is 

17    important to make sure we have more transparency.  

18                 We've just recently gone through the 

19    passage of a pharmacy benefit bill which shines 

20    light on the industry.  This is another smaller 

21    bill that shines light -- and when it shines 

22    light, it's less likely to have fraud or 

23    corruption involved, which we have seen over the 

24    years in that chain.

25                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 


                                                               5000

 1    Senator Breslin, for your candor.  And would you 

 2    please yield for just another couple of 

 3    questions.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   The sponsor 

 7    yields.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

11    Senator.  

12                 So in that regard, do you think that 

13    it might be more efficient and less costly to the 

14    insureds in increased premiums, now, that will 

15    result from that extra work, to just create some 

16    sort of a discovery device or some sort of other 

17    means to require pharmacies to make those 

18    disclosures instead of getting it through an 

19    explanation of benefits?

20                 SENATOR BRESLIN:   I'm more than 

21    open to any suggestions that will make the 

22    process more efficient and also serve the needs 

23    of that consumer to have the proper information.  

24                 This bill has been around for a 

25    number of months.  There has been total silence 


                                                               5001

 1    from those people who might have had an 

 2    opportunity to say isn't there a different way.  

 3    We've heard none of that.

 4                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Understood.  And 

 5    I appreciate that candor as well.  

 6                 Thank you, Senator.  Happy birthday.  

 7                 On the bill, please, 

 8    Madam President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

10    Palumbo on the bill.

11                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  And I think that's really the 

13    crux of my concerns, that this was going to cost 

14    money to the insureds.  

15                 And as far as the payer, you pay 

16    right there.  It's a retail transaction.  You go 

17    in, and as the Senator I believe admitted on 

18    debate, you know what you get.  You get a receipt 

19    on your bag, you make your $6, $20 copayment 

20    right there, and you get your medication.  That's 

21    the end of it.  There's no need for further 

22    inquiry and investigation on the consumer side.  

23                 Maybe there is -- and I certainly 

24    understand the Senator's concerns regarding fraud 

25    or abuse or other issues that we've been dealing 


                                                               5002

 1    with in this Legislature.  But this is actually 

 2    putting the burden and the costs of that 

 3    information on the insured.  

 4                 So that's the wrinkle here, that you 

 5    get all the information you need from going up to 

 6    the counter and buying your prescriptions, 

 7    because this only applies to pharmacies.  

 8                 As far as other medical services, 

 9    those are unknown and they absolutely are 

10    appropriately on an explanation of benefits, 

11    because when you go to a hospital, you pretty 

12    much pay nothing.  And you get a bill, and you 

13    need to see what services, labs, any diagnostics 

14    that were done.  That is absolutely appropriate, 

15    and I think we're all in agreement.  

16                 But just adding those two words to 

17    this section of the Insurance Law is going to 

18    open a floodgate of costs:  120 million 

19    additional explanations of benefit.  

20                 So I certainly appreciate that the 

21    Senator has an open mind and is willing to listen 

22    to other means of doing this.  And unfortunately, 

23    I will be no on this piece of legislation for 

24    now, and I urge my colleagues to do the same.

25                 Thank you, Madam President.  


                                                               5003

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 2    you.

 3                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 4    to be heard?

 5                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 6    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

 7                 Read the last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1672, those Senators voting in the 

17    negative are Senators Borrello, Boyle, Gallivan, 

18    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

19    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, 

20    Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 18.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

25    reading of the controversial calendar.


                                                               5004

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.

 3                 At this point we are going to stand 

 4    at ease for a while, while there are party 

 5    conferences.  We are going to be coming back to 

 6    take up a supplemental calendar.  I want to give 

 7    the Minority an opportunity to brief their 

 8    members on the bills that we're going to take up.

 9                 So we will encourage our members to 

10    check their emails for Zoom links for our 

11    Majority conference.  

12                 And Senator Lanza, do you have an 

13    announcement?  

14                 SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, thank you, 

15    Senator Gianaris.  

16                 Madam President, there will be an 

17    immediate meeting of the Republican Conference in 

18    Room 315 of the Capitol Building.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And with that, 

20    Madam President, the Senate will stand at ease 

21    until 6:30.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    Senate will stand at ease until 6:30.

24                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

25    at 4:45 p.m.)


                                                               5005

 1                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 2    6:46 p.m.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    Senate will return to order.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 7    at this time let's take up the supplemental 

 8    calendar in a noncontroversial fashion.

 9                 (Pause.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:  I'm told we're 

13    going to take up substitutions from the Assembly 

14    first, and then proceed to the calendar from 

15    there.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Weik moves 

19    to discharge, from the Committee On rules, 

20    Assembly Bill Number 7975 and substitute it for 

21    the identical Senate Bill 7175, Third Reading 

22    Calendar 1718.

23                 Senator Sanders moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 783 and substitute it for the identical 


                                                               5006

 1    Senate Bill 577, Third Reading Calendar 1662.

 2                 Senator Krueger moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 4    4257A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 5    Bill 1277A, Third Reading Calendar 1686.

 6                 Senator Hoylman moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Energy and 

 8    Telecommunications, Assembly Bill Number 6193 and 

 9    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 5325, 

10    Third Reading Calendar 1692.

11                 Senator Brouk moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

13    7405A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

14    Bill 6431, Third Reading Calendar 1698.  

15                 Senator Palumbo moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

17    5461B and substitute it for the identical Senate 

18    Bill 6590A, Third Reading Calendar 1700.

19                 Senator Stavisky moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

21    7491A and substitute it for the identical Senate 

22    Bill 6600A, Third Reading Calendar 1701.

23                 Senator Gounardes moves to 

24    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

25    Assembly Bill Number 7464 and substitute it for 


                                                               5007

 1    the identical Senate Bill 6690, Third Reading 

 2    Calendar 1702.

 3                 Senator Breslin moves to discharge, 

 4    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 

 5    7843 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 6    Bill 6922, Third Reading Calendar 1704.

 7                 Senator Brouk moves to discharge, 

 8    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 9    Number 5979A and substitute it for the identical 

10    Senate Bill 6957, Third Reading Calendar 1705.

11                 Senator Thomas moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 7908A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 7110A, Third Reading Calendar 1710.

15                 Senator Brooks moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 7366A and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 7121, Third Reading Calendar 1711.

19                 Senator Mayer moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 2658 and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 7125, Third Reading Calendar 1712.

23                 Senator Kennedy moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 7734 and substitute it for the identical 


                                                               5008

 1    Senate Bill 7129, Third Reading Calendar 1713.

 2                 Senator Persaud moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 6522 and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 7152, Third Reading Calendar 1714.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:    

 7    Substitutions so ordered.

 8                 The Secretary will read.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1662, Assembly Print 783, substituted earlier by 

11    Assemblymember Cahill, an act to amend the 

12    Public Health Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5009

 1    1686, Assembly Print 4257A, substituted earlier 

 2    by Assemblymember Epstein, an act to amend the 

 3    Election Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1688, Senate Print 1834A, by Senator Skoufis, an 

18    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5010

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1688, those Senators voting in the 

 6    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

 7    Griffo, Jordan, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 8    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

 9    Weik.

10                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1689, Senate Print 4441, by Senator Gounardes, an 

15    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

16    Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

18    a home-rule message at the desk.

19                 Read the last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.  

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               5011

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1690, Senate Print 4554, by Senator Bailey, an 

 7    act to amend the Family Court Act and the 

 8    Judiciary Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

12    act shall take effect January 1, 2022.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1690, those Senators voting in the 

20    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

21    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, 

22    Martucci, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

23    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

24    Weik.

25                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 20.


                                                               5012

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1691, Senate Print 5246A, by Senator Kennedy, an 

 5    act to amend the Banking Law.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

 7    the day.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    will be laid aside for the day.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1692, Assembly Print 6193, substituted earlier by 

12    Assemblymember Gonzalez-Rojas, an act to amend 

13    the Public Service Law and the General Business 

14    Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.  

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5013

 1    Calendar 1692, those Senators voting in the 

 2    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

 3    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

 4    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, 

 5    Serino, Stec and Tedisco.

 6                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 17.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1693, Senate Print 5489, by Senator Brouk, an act 

11    to amend the Education Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1695 --


                                                               5014

 1                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside for 

 2    the day.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    will be laid aside for the day.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1696, Senate Print 6289A, by Senator Gaughran, an 

 7    act to amend the Education Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect July 1, 2022.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1698, Assembly Print 7405A, substituted earlier 

22    by Assemblymember Bronson, an act to amend the 

23    Education Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5015

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Stavisky to explain her vote.

 8                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes.  This is 

 9    6431?

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Yes, 

11    Senator.

12                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   This is a 

13    one-year extension for employees who work at 

14    various state agencies:  The Department of Mental 

15    Hygiene, SOFA, the O agencies -- quite a few 

16    agencies.  And it permits them to practice a 

17    profession without a license, as mental health 

18    care practitioners, as social workers, 

19    psychologists.  And that includes the contractors 

20    whom they hire to provide services.  

21                 And very briefly, Madam President, 

22    the exemption was granted in 2002 and extended 

23    six times -- six times.  This is the last time I 

24    am going to vote for an extension.  It is time 

25    that the O agencies and the other agencies 


                                                               5016

 1    subscribe to the Laws of 2018, and that is the 

 2    final extension.  

 3                 I vote aye this time, and I want to 

 4    put the agencies on notice this is time for them 

 5    to fix the problem.

 6                 Thank you, Madam President.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 8    you, Senator.

 9                 Senator Stavisky to be recorded in 

10    the affirmative.

11                 Announce the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1698, those Senators voting in the 

14    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Martucci, 

15    Oberacker and Tedisco.

16                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 5.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1699, Senate Print 6497A, by Senator Parker, an 

21    act to amend the Public Service Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5017

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1700, Assembly Print 5461B, substituted earlier 

11    by Assemblymember Thiele, an act in relation to 

12    authorizing the Flanders, Riverside and 

13    Northampton Community Association, Inc., to file 

14    an application for a partial exemption from real 

15    property taxes.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5018

 1    Calendar Number 1700, voting in the negative:  

 2    Senator Akshar.

 3                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1701, Assembly Print 7491A, substituted earlier 

 8    by Assemblymember Glick, an act to amend the 

 9    Education Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 1701, those Senators voting in the 

21    negative are Senators Borrello, Jordan, Lanza and 

22    Oberacker.

23                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 4.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5019

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1702, Assembly Print 7464, substituted earlier by 

 3    Assemblymember Abbate, an act to amend the 

 4    Administrative Code of the City of New York.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar Number 1702, voting in the negative:  

16    Senator Boyle.  

17                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1704, Assembly Print 7843, substituted earlier by 

22    Assemblymember McDonald, an act authorizing the 

23    State of New York Bond Bank Agency to provide 

24    municipal relief to the City of Albany.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               5020

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1705, Assembly Print 5979A, substituted earlier 

14    by Assemblymember Walker, an act to amend the 

15    Public Health Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.


                                                               5021

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1706, Senate Print 7011, by Senator SepĂșlveda, an 

 5    act to amend the Executive Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1706, those Senators voting in the 

17    negative are Senators Jordan, Oberacker, O'Mara 

18    and Ortt.

19                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 4.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1707, Senate Print 7015, by Senator Addabbo, an 

24    act to amend the Penal Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               5022

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar Number 1707, voting in the negative:  

11    Senator Helming.

12                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1709, Senate Print 7082, by Senator Breslin, an 

17    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               5023

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1709, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

 5    Martucci, Oberacker, Ortt, Palumbo and Rath.

 6                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 8.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1710, Assembly Print 7908A, substituted earlier 

11    by Assemblymember Montesano, an act in relation 

12    to authorizing the Town of Oyster Bay to grant 

13    Sai Mandir USA a real property tax exemption.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1710, those Senators voting in the 

25    negative are Senators Akshar and O'Mara.


                                                               5024

 1                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1711, Assembly Print 7366A, substituted earlier 

 6    by Assemblymember Abbate, an act defining the 

 7    term "first responder in communications."

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1712, Assembly Print 2658, substituted earlier by 

22    Assemblymember Sayegh, an act to amend the 

23    County Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5025

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1713, Assembly Print 7734, substituted earlier by 

13    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to create a 

14    temporary "commission to prevent childhood 

15    drowning."

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

19    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

20    shall have become a law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5026

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1714, Assembly Print 6522, substituted earlier by 

 6    Assemblymember Stern, an act to amend the 

 7    Penal Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the first of November.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1714, those Senators voting in the 

19    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Gallivan, 

20    Griffo, Helming, Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, 

21    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, 

22    Stec and Tedisco.

23                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 16.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5027

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1715, Senate Print 7154, by Senator Skoufis, an 

 3    act to authorize Gina Kehoe of the Town of 

 4    Montgomery to take the competitive civil service 

 5    examination.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 7    a home-rule message at the desk.

 8                 Read the last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1716, Senate Print 7167, by Senator Kaplan, an 

21    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

22    Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

24    a home-rule message at the desk.

25                 Read the last section.


                                                               5028

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1717, Senate Print 7169, by Senator 

13    Reichlin-Melnick, an act to authorize the Town of 

14    Orangetown to offer a certain retirement option 

15    to Orangetown police officers.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

17    a home-rule message at the desk.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5029

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1718, Assembly Print 7975, substituted earlier by 

 6    Assemblymember Ramos, an act providing for the 

 7    appeal and review of certain real property tax 

 8    exemption applications.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar Number 1718, voting in the negative:  

20    Senator Akshar.

21                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

25    reading of today's supplemental calendar.


                                                               5030

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

 2    further business at the desk?

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 4    no further business at the desk.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   In that case, I 

 6    move that we adjourn until tomorrow, June 10th, 

 7    Thursday, at 11:00 a.m.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

 9    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

10    Thursday, June 10th, at 11:00 a.m.

11                 (Whereupon, at 7:05 p.m., the Senate 

12    adjourned.)

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