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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 19, 2025

11                      3:21 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR ROXANNE J. PERSAUD, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Bishop 

 9    Bernard Alex, of Victory Temple Fellowship Church 

10    in Syracuse, New York, will deliver today's 

11    invocation.

12                 Bishop?  

13                 BISHOP ALEX:  Second Samuel 

14    Chapter 23 reminds us:  

15                 "Now these are the last words of 

16    David.  Thus says David, the son of Jesse, thus 

17    says the man that was raised up on high, the 

18    anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet 

19    psalmist of Israel.  

20                 "David said, The spirit of the Lord 

21    spoke to me, and His words are on my tongue.  

22                 "The God of Israel said, the Rock of 

23    Israel spoke to me:  Who governs over men must be 

24    just, governing in the fear and reverence of God.  

25                 "And then the one who governs shall 


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 1    be like the light of the morning when the sun 

 2    rises, even a morning without clouds, like the 

 3    tender grass that springs up out of the earth, 

 4    shining clear, glistening like the tender grass 

 5    after the rain."  

 6                 So God of our help for the years to 

 7    come, the One who shelters us and protects us, I 

 8    ask that You continue to guide those who have 

 9    accepted the call to govern, that they do so with 

10    the heart and spirit of a servant who serves, 

11    that they continue to provide, and that they give 

12    wisdom to the thought as they move with precision 

13    and integrity in turbulent times, and lives that 

14    are filled with questions find guidance.

15                 As the residents of the great State 

16    of New York, those from the tip of Montauk Point 

17    to the rolling waters of the Niagara, from those 

18    that stand on the borders of the neighbors to the 

19    north and the rolling hills of the Southern Tier, 

20    God, we ask that You give them senatorial 

21    leadership to make decisions that are equitable, 

22    considerate, and with the people at its core.  

23                 And may the decisions made reflect 

24    the principles upon which our country was 

25    founded, that we remain one nation, under God's 


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 1    divine guidance -- not divided, but with united 

 2    spirits, and with liberty and justice for all.  

 3    Keep us all those who serve, that we remember to 

 4    whom much is given, much is required.  

 5                 This is our petition and our 

 6    request.  In Your name, Amen.

 7                 (Response of "Amen.")

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Reading 

 9    of the Journal.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Friday, 

11    May 16, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

12    adjournment.  The Journal of Thursday, May 15, 

13    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

14    Senate adjourned.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Without 

16    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

17                 Presentation of petitions.

18                 Messages from the Assembly.

19                 The Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Fernandez 

21    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

22    Alcoholism and Substance Use Disorders, 

23    Assembly Bill Number 2398 and substitute it for 

24    the identical Senate Bill 1814, Third Reading 

25    Calendar 986.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So 

 2    ordered.

 3                 Messages from the Governor.  

 4                 Reports of standing committees.

 5                 Reports of select committees.

 6                 Communications and reports from 

 7    state officers.

 8                 Motions and resolutions.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 On behalf of Senator Addabbo, I wish 

13    to call up Senate Print 2000, recalled from the 

14    Assembly, which is now at the desk.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    Secretary will read.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    235, Senate Print 2000, by Senator Addabbo, an 

19    act to amend the Insurance Law.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

21    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 52.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

 3    Calendar.  

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

 5    following amendments.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 7    amendments are received.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Amendments are 

 9    also offered to the following Third Reading 

10    Calendar bills:  

11                 By Senator Bailey, page 16, Calendar 

12    Number 425, Senate Print 5313;

13                 Senator Bailey, page 21, Calendar 

14    Number 584, Senate Print 5045; 

15                 Senator Comrie, page 28, Calendar 

16    Number 708, Senate Print 5553A; 

17                 Senator Comrie, page 28, Calendar 

18    Number 710, Senate Print 6846;

19                 Senator SepĂșlveda, page 46, Calendar 

20    Number 893, Senate Print 5294;

21                 Senator Rivera, page 46, Calendar 

22    Number 898, Senate Print 7457;

23                 Senator Stavisky, page 47, Calendar 

24    Number 906, Senate Print 6891;

25                 Senator Webb, page 56, Calendar 


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 1    Number 1021, Senate Print 2047;

 2                 Senator Skoufis, page 57, Calendar 

 3    Number 1024, Senate Print 4857A;  

 4                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal, page 55, 

 5    Calendar Number 1005, Senate Print 4914A; 

 6                 Senator Bailey, page 49, Calendar 

 7    Number 925, Senate Print 6895;

 8                 And Senator Bailey, page 49, 

 9    Calendar Number 927, Senate Print 7287. 

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

11    amendments are received, and the bills will 

12    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time, 

15    Madam President, let's take up previously adopted 

16    Resolution 821, by Senator Gianaris, read its 

17    title only, and recognize me on the resolution, 

18    please.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 821, by 

22    Senator Gianaris, memorializing Governor Kathy 

23    Hochul to proclaim May 4, 2025, as Star Wars Day 

24    in the State of New York.

25                 (Laughter as two Star Wars 


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 1    stormtroopers enter the chamber and flank 

 2    Senator Gianaris.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Gianaris on the resolution.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Hello, there.  

 6                 Madam President, I have a bad 

 7    feeling about this.  

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   A long time ago 

10    in a galaxy far, far away.  It was almost a 

11    half-century ago when those iconic words, the 

12    most famous words to begin a film, first appeared 

13    on the screen and launched a cultural phenomenon 

14    that has endured and grown through the decades -- 

15    and I think has affected all of us in our 

16    everyday lives.  

17                 How many times have you walked into 

18    a supermarket and pretended to use the Force to 

19    open the doors?  

20                 (Laughter.)

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I do it at the 

22    parking garage on the way in here every day.  

23                 (Laughter.)

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Or how many 

25    times have you had a lightsaber fight with your 


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 1    friends?  In fact, two of our colleagues were 

 2    doing it just today here in the well.  

 3                 And of course the phrase that 

 4    launched it all, "May the Force be with you," has 

 5    now led to a fan-grown phenomenon where May 4th 

 6    is celebrated as Star Wars Day for "May the 

 7    fourth be with you." 

 8                 Now, we had this resolution prepared 

 9    by then, but as you all know, we were in the 

10    middle of the budget and thought it would be in 

11    poor taste to take this resolution up while we 

12    were dealing with such weighty issues.  But we do 

13    have it before us today.

14                 And you may all remember, that 

15    budget was hard-fought, it was at times divisive, 

16    it was partisan.  But here is a day when we can 

17    all come together, where indeed the most 

18    conservative members of this chamber and the most 

19    progressive can share in the joys of celebrating 

20    what Star Wars has brought to so many of us.  

21                 I don't want to out anyone who 

22    doesn't want to be spoken about, but Senator 

23    Borrello, Senator Stec and myself are on a Star 

24    Wars text thread, which I think most people would 

25    find an odd combination of people.  


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 1                 (Laughter.)

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Senator Rivera 

 3    is sometimes joining us and has brought his own 

 4    official lightsaber I know here to the chamber 

 5    today.

 6                 So perhaps in Star Wars the Senate 

 7    was a tool of the emperor and eventually was 

 8    disbanded.  Here it is uniting us and bringing us 

 9    together to make us ever stronger.  

10                 I want to thank our own personal Mon 

11    Mothva, Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, our 

12    leader, for allowing this display to happen in 

13    the Senate chamber today.  

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And I must take 

16    the opportunity to make a plea to our friends at 

17    Lucasfilm:  Please bring back "The Acolyte."  It 

18    was a good show, and it has grown in popularity 

19    since it was taken off the air. 

20                 So hear us, Lucasfilm!

21                 To my colleagues here, a plea for 

22    all of us as well:  May the Force be with us.  

23                 Thank you, Madam President.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

25    you, Senator.  


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 1                 May the Fourth be with you.  The 

 2    resolution was adopted -- oh.  

 3                 Senator Borrello on the resolution.

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   (Brandishing 

 6    lightsaber.)  Now it's not going to work.  

 7                 Thank you, Madam President.  Thank 

 8    you, Senator Gianaris.  

 9                 Today I rise to celebrate and 

10    recognize May 4th as Star Wars Day around the 

11    world.  "May the Fourth be with you" is a play on 

12    words from the iconic line "May the Force be with 

13    you."  What started off as a pun turned into an 

14    international celebration to recognize the impact 

15    that Star Wars has had on our culture and what it 

16    means to fans around the globe.  

17                 The first appearance of "May the 

18    Fourth be with you" can be traced back to 1978, 

19    just one year after the release of Star Wars:  A 

20    New Hope.

21                 By then, Star Wars was firmly rooted 

22    in popular culture.  The phrase gained wider 

23    attention on May 4, 1979, when British Prime 

24    Minister Margaret Thatcher was congratulated in a 

25    newspaper ad reading "May the 4th be with you, 


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 1    Maggie -- congratulations!"  

 2                 The pun also gained traction with 

 3    Lucasfilm.  In 1982 a sound designer coined it 

 4    while working on Return of the Jedi in Northern 

 5    California's Redwood Forests.  He shared it on 

 6    set and would go on to send an annual May the 4th 

 7    message for years to come.  

 8                 From these early mentions, 

 9    grassroots enthusiasm by fans took over and 

10    helped establish May 4th as Star Wars Day, a 

11    global celebration of the saga and its impacts.  

12                 New York is home to some of the 

13    largest events and celebrations of science 

14    fiction and fantasy such as New York's Comic-Con, 

15    held every October in New York City.  

16                 At Comic-Con, Star Wars panels, 

17    experiences, meetups and guests are among the 

18    biggest draws, bringing fans together from across 

19    the galaxy.  For me, Star Wars was bigger than 

20    life when it hit the movie screens in 1977.  I 

21    was just 10 years old at the time.  It was the 

22    state-of-the-art special effects.  It was a story 

23    that had nothing to do with Earth or even our 

24    galaxy, as it starts off "A long, long time ago 

25    in a galaxy far, far away." 


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 1                 This was a novel concept at the 

 2    time, but it was based on the epic battle between 

 3    good and evil.  It drew inspiration from many 

 4    classic hero stories, from the swashbuckling 

 5    adventures of movies of the 1940s and '50s to the 

 6    dogfight battles -- oh, it died.  Here we go, all 

 7    right -- 

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   -- like those in 

10    World War II.  

11                 I'm actually worse than the 

12    stormtroopers when it comes to aim, so -- 

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   George Lucas 

15    started with an idea that has grown into a 

16    movement.  There are new fans born every day.  

17    Then there are those of us that have grown up and 

18    even grown old with Star Wars.  

19                 So today we celebrate the global 

20    phenomenon that it has become.  It is ingrained 

21    in our culture and continues to inspire 

22    generations with its enduring themes of hope, 

23    courage and redemption.  

24                 I wanted to thank my co-conspirator, 

25    Senator Gianaris, on this.  Thank you very much.  


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 1                 And May the Fourth be with you.

 2                 Thank you, Madam President.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator.  

 5                 Senator Rivera on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR RIVERA:   And on the other 

 7    side of the aisle.  

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Madam President, I 

10    remember the first -- I'm just going to put this 

11    down.  Do not light the saber unless you're 

12    willing to use it, good sir.

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Now, in 1983 I was 

15    eight years old, and the first movie I remember 

16    seeing in the movie theater was Return of the 

17    Jedi.  It is the reason why up to this day, even 

18    though people might not like it, I still love me 

19    some Ewoks and I still sing the Yub Nub song.  

20    That's a very inside thing for others that are 

21    Star Wars fans.  

22                 But in all honesty, Madam President, 

23    it is actually one of the things that as you saw 

24    very clearly, Senator Borrello and I would agree 

25    on very little.  We do agree on this being 


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 1    something that we both share and is shared by 

 2    millions of people across the world.  

 3                 And I will say that it is something 

 4    that is one of the things that has maintained my 

 5    sanity.  I've been here for 15 years, and one of 

 6    the things that I do to maintain my sanity is 

 7    that every now and then I go into -- I put -- I 

 8    take my iPad or I'm at home and I get on my TV 

 9    and I just put one of these sci-fi blockbusters 

10    on and enjoy myself and am able to forget the 

11    rest of the world for a little bit.

12                 So I will say, as has been said 

13    before, once again, Madam President, to everyone 

14    present (lightsaber squealing):  May the Fourth 

15    be with you.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

17    you, Senator.

18                 Senator Stec on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR STEC:   I too want to 

20    join -- no, I'll pass on the lightsaber, George.  

21                 As has been mentioned, Star Wars is 

22    important to a lot of us in here.  I was eight 

23    years old when Star Wars came out.  I remember 

24    going to that movie with my family and becoming a 

25    big Star Wars fan.  It's an odd journey that 


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 1    brings me here to my mid-50s, and as 

 2    Senator Gianaris pointed out, opposite sides of 

 3    the aisle, maybe sometimes there are many things 

 4    we don't agree on, but Star Wars and our love of 

 5    Star Wars and its impact on us as kids is among 

 6    the things that brings us together, along with 

 7    tens of millions of Star Wars fans around the 

 8    world.  

 9                 You know, it's nice to recognize 

10    that iconic "May the Force be with you" to be 

11    Star Wars Day, "May the 4th be with you."  So I 

12    thank Senator Gianaris for bringing this 

13    legislation to the floor.  That might be the 

14    first and only time that he may ever hear that 

15    sentence from me.  

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 SENATOR STEC:   And as I tried 

18    telling him during the budget process -- it 

19    didn't work, I'm going to have to go back to 

20    school and seek out Yoda, but I'll try it again 

21    here:  This is not the budget you're looking for.  

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 SENATOR STEC:   Anyways, I support 

24    the resolution.  And again, Happy Star Wars Day, 

25    everybody.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator.

 3                 The resolution was adopted on 

 4    April 29th.  

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I want to 

 7    welcome and appreciate that our two guests here 

 8    have flanked me during this conversation.  They 

 9    are going to make their way to the Majority 

10    Conference Room, and they'll be there for about 

11    an hour for photos, if anyone would like to sneak 

12    out and get their photo and return.  That's open 

13    not just to members but to anyone that would like 

14    to do that.  So thank you.  Thank you, both of 

15    you.  

16                 And on to the next resolution, 

17    Madam Speaker.  

18                 (Applause as Star Wars stormtroopers 

19    exit the chamber.)

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Previously 

21    adopted Resolution 963, by Senator May.  Please 

22    read that resolution's title and recognize 

23    Senator May.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    Secretary will read.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 963, by 

 2    Senator May, commemorating the 10th Anniversary 

 3    of the New York Cider Association.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 5    May on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 It's a tough act to follow, but 

 9    let's change the subject a little here and talk 

10    about upstate New York.  

11                 Upstate New York is one of the best 

12    places in the world for growing apples.  And we 

13    are blessed with an abundance of orchards and 

14    apple products, including hard cider.

15                 I have the honor to represent the 

16    beautiful Lafayette Valley, where 1911 Cider is 

17    located.  And we have many other orchards in my 

18    district.

19                 Later this afternoon you are all 

20    invited to the Well to taste a delicious variety 

21    of ciders produced by our craft cider makers from 

22    across the state.

23                 For now, I am pleased to recognize 

24    the 10th anniversary of the New York State Cider 

25    Association.  This group came together to 


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 1    advocate for the cider industry, which used to 

 2    labor under the shadows of other craft beverages, 

 3    but now I think it's fair to say that cider is 

 4    having its moment, thanks to the relentless 

 5    advocacy of the New York State Cider Association 

 6    and their great products, as well as the 

 7    legislation that we passed last year to allow 

 8    direct shipment of cider and other craft 

 9    beverages direct to consumers.  

10                 We are joined today by Scott Ramsey 

11    and Adrian Luna of the New York Cider 

12    Association, as well as representatives from 

13    Nine Pin Cider, Rockland Cider Works, 

14    Indian Ladder Farms Cidery, Brooklyn Cider House, 

15    Merchant's Daughter, Treasury Cider, and 

16    Clarksburg Cidery.  

17                 And I ask you to welcome our guests 

18    and give them the privileges of the house.

19                 Thank you.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To our 

21    guests, I welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  

22    We extend to you the privileges and courtesies of 

23    this house.  

24                 Please rise and be recognized.

25                 (Standing ovation.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    resolution was adopted on May 13th.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

 5    Senator Brisport for an introduction.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Brisport for an introduction.  

 8                 SENATOR BRISPORT:   Thank you, 

 9    Madam President.  

10                 I rise to introduce visitors from 

11    the Brownsville Community Justice Center, BCJC, 

12    which improves public safety in Brownsville, 

13    Brooklyn, by investing in local residents, 

14    transforming public spaces and reimagining the 

15    criminal justice process.  

16                 The Community Justice Center works 

17    to reduce crime and incarceration, strengthen the 

18    trust in the justice system, and promote vibrant 

19    civic life in Brownsville, Brooklyn.  Programming 

20    at the Brownsville Community Justice Center 

21    centers on three key elements:  Alternatives to 

22    incarceration, youth development, and reimagining 

23    public space.  This holistic approach guides all 

24    of the services and opportunities offered at the 

25    Community Justice Center, which are uniquely 


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 1    designed to uplift and empower Brownsville youth.  

 2                 I want to thank staff Lenny, Lavont, 

 3    Robin and Hailey for being here, as well as our 

 4    Youth Leadership Council members and 

 5    participants:  Javon, Sela, Emilio, Havi, Nema.  

 6                 Today they were lobbying for the 

 7    Right to Remain Silent bill, legislation from our 

 8    own Senator Bailey.  I really want to thank you 

 9    all for showing the New York State Senate the 

10    power and future of Brownsville.  

11                 "Never ran, never will."  Thank you.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

15    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

16    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

17                 Please rise and be recognized.

18                 (Standing ovation.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Serrano.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  

23                 We have a privileged resolution by 

24    Senator Mattera.  Please take that up, 

25    Resolution 1020.  Please read that title only and 


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 1    call on Senator Mattera.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 3    a privileged resolution at the desk.

 4                 The Secretary will read.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1020, by 

 6    Senator Mattera, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 7    Hochul to proclaim May 19, 2025, as Italian 

 8    American Day in the State of New York.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

10    Mattera on the resolution.  

11                 SENATOR MATTERA:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 Today as a proud member of the 

14    New York Conference of Italian-American 

15    Legislators, it is my honor to stand before you 

16    as we jointly proclaim today Italian American Day 

17    in New York State.  What a great day.  

18                 This day is the opportunity to 

19    recognize the profound impact Italian-Americans 

20    have had on our state and nation.  Just so 

21    everybody understands, 25 percent of New York 

22    residents are Italian-Americans, and we are very 

23    proud of that.  

24                 These individuals have helped shape 

25    America into the great nation it is today, and 


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 1    they continue to lead us towards a brighter 

 2    future.  Their contributions are vast and they 

 3    remind us of the importance of honoring those who 

 4    paved the way for all of us.  

 5                 Today's designation of Italian 

 6    American Day also celebrates the Republic of 

 7    Italy's national holiday, Festa Della Repubblica 

 8    Italiana, which celebrates the day Italy voted to 

 9    become a democratic republic.

10                 This shared history gives us an 

11    extra reason to celebrate both here and in Italy 

12    and I am going to be going to Italy in July, so 

13    I'm very excited about that for my first time.

14                 This shared history gives us an 

15    extra reason to celebrate both here and in Italy.  

16    It is a day to honor all who have made our state 

17    and nation stronger.  

18                 As someone who is proud of my 

19    Italian heritage, I know that I stand in the 

20    shadow of all who have come before me, and I am 

21    proud to celebrate and remember their legacy.

22                 That is why today the New York State 

23    Conference of Italian-American Legislators 

24    honored some of the deserving Italian-American 

25    New Yorkers who have worked to preserve the 


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 1    history of Italian-Americans to ensure that their 

 2    contributions are always honored and serve as an 

 3    inspiration for all who follow.  

 4                 And I'm going to mention these names 

 5    because these are very, very important people 

 6    that are here today.  Dr. Joseph Scelsa.  He is 

 7    the founder of the Italian American Museum on 

 8    Mulberry Street in Manhattan.  You know, and I 

 9    appreciate that he is here and what he is doing.  

10                 Antonietta Marisello {ph} is here 

11    today.  Maria Milito.  Christopher Macchio.  

12    Chris Vaccaro.  Philip Foglia.  Assemblyman 

13    Philip Palmesano.  

14                 And our Republican leader that is 

15    being honored today also, Leader Rob Ortt.  And 

16    just so everybody knows, Leader Ortt is half 

17    Italian.  And I said to the leader, "That is 

18    definitely your better half."  

19                 (Laughter.)

20                 SENATOR MATTERA:   That's going to 

21    be good.  No, I just had to say that.  

22                 And congratulations to all of our 

23    scholarship winners.  Great job, all of our 

24    high school and our college students.  

25                 These New Yorkers have made their 


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 1    own contributions to our state today, and we 

 2    celebrate Italian Independence Day.  We are 

 3    honored to celebrate their contributions and 

 4    their accomplishments.  I thank them for all 

 5    their dedication and hope they understand the 

 6    lasting impact they have had.  

 7                 As I close, I want to note how 

 8    Italian American Day is remembered and the 

 9    strength of our state's diversity.  It highlights 

10    how every community and every race contributed to 

11    the building of New York, which is the greatest 

12    state in the union.  We have built this great 

13    state together, and it is only through that 

14    shared commitment that we continue to thrive.

15                 It was great to see our 

16    Prime Minister of Italy, Giorgia Meloni, when she 

17    attended the U.N. Week.  And in the fall when she 

18    visited, she went to Columbus Circle and she 

19    placed a wreath at the Columbus statue.  That was 

20    very, very important to all Italian-Americans.  

21                 It is so important that we also 

22    preserve Columbus Day.  And that I want to thank 

23    President Trump for signing an executive order 

24    protecting this precious celebration for all 

25    Italian-Americans.  That is our heritage.


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 1                 I hope that we all can join together 

 2    as a body to celebrate our diversity by 

 3    recognizing Italian American Day.  Hope to see 

 4    everybody at the festa.  God bless all 

 5    Italian-Americans, God bless Italy, and God bless 

 6    the United States of America.  Cent'anni!  A 

 7    hundred years good health.  

 8                 Madam President, please extend all 

 9    privileges and courtesies of the house to our 

10    honorees and to all of our scholarship award 

11    winners.  

12                 Thank you, and I proudly vote aye.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

14    you, Senator.

15                 Senator Chan on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 How can I not speak about the 

19    Italians?  First I want to thank Senator Mattera 

20    for introducing this resolution.  I'll start off 

21    with "Che si dice."  How can I not speak about 

22    this when I lived intimately with my Italian 

23    friends in Brooklyn for 50 years, from 

24    Bensonhurst to Bath Beach, Dyker Heights, 

25    Bay Ridge, Gravesend, Kensington -- you name it.  


                                                               3663

 1    South Brooklyn.  From Galileo to Da Vinci, from 

 2    Marco Polo to Marconi, from Prada to Gucci.  How 

 3    can we dispute the contributions of the Italians 

 4    to the betterment of mankind and civilization?  

 5                 As our beautiful neighborhood of 

 6    South Brooklyn changes, our Italian culture is as 

 7    prevalent as ever.  Together with the Italians, 

 8    we forge forward.  We have people that I grew up 

 9    with named Venuto and Conigliaro, Trippes, Neris.  

10    I know 10 Sally Boys and about five Fat Tonys.  

11                 (Laughter.)

12                 SENATOR CHAN:   And one of them is 

13    Chinese.  He's a Chinese cop.  

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR CHAN:   My chief of staff is 

16    named Vito LaBella.  

17                 From the land of Lioni Italian 

18    heroes, to Villabate Bakery, Bari Salumeria, 

19    Spumoni Gardens, Villa Fiorita Ristorante, La 

20    Bella Markets -- no relations -- Mr. Phil's 

21    Pizza, our Lady of Guadalupe Roman Catholic 

22    Church, and of course the Santa Rosalia Feast 

23    enjoyed by all coming from all over the city. 

24                 We thrive as a neighborhood in 

25    motion.  And it's not just the Italians, but 


                                                               3664

 1    today it is about the Italians.  And all of us 

 2    have common goals.  People speaking different 

 3    languages somehow able to communicate with each 

 4    other because we have a common goal and we do the 

 5    same things.  

 6                 From Mulberry Street in Little Italy 

 7    to 18th Avenue in Brooklyn, can you feel it?  I 

 8    can.  Fuggedaboutit.  Come to South Brooklyn.  

 9    I'll tell you what I'm talking about.  I'll show 

10    you.  

11                 I proudly support this resolution on 

12    behalf of the people of South Brooklyn.  We love 

13    this!  Gracie.  

14                 (Applause from galleries.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

16    you, Senator.

17                 Senator Rhoads on the resolution.

18                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 I proudly rise as an 

21    Italian-American myself with my maternal 

22    grandparents, Fred and Frances Salacca, coming 

23    from Bari and Naples respectively.  I'm also 

24    married to a lovely lady who is 100 percent 

25    Italian.  So even though the other half of me is 


                                                               3665

 1    Irish and German, you know what half dominates 

 2    our house, and that is Italian.

 3                 I rise actually, in addition to it 

 4    being Italian American Day today, the committee 

 5    also awards two scholarships -- actually, four 

 6    scholarships, two in the area of athletics and 

 7    two in the area of academics.  The 5th Senate 

 8    District was blessed this year to have two 

 9    honorees, two scholarship recipients, one of whom 

10    is in the chamber today.  But I would like to 

11    recognize both.  First, Thomas DiLeo, who is the 

12    recipient of the Senator John Marchi Athletic 

13    Scholarship, was a Plainview-Old Bethpage-JFK 

14    high school graduate of the Class of 2023.  He's 

15    currently a sophomore at Stony Brook University 

16    as part of the university's eight-year Scholars 

17    for Dental Medicine Program.  

18                 Tommy has two passions:  Cooking and 

19    baseball.  Although severely asthmatic, through 

20    years of conditioning and training he was able to 

21    overcome that obstacle playing for the varsity 

22    baseball team, earning MVP honors and two league 

23    championships.  Today Tommy is the starting 

24    left-fielder for Stony Brook University's Club 

25    Baseball Team and has played for Stony Brook's 


                                                               3666

 1    Rugby Team.  

 2                 He has also maintained a 100 percent 

 3    GPA throughout his high school career while 

 4    leading the Investors Club, the Veterans Club and 

 5    is on the Leadership Council of the Saint Pius X 

 6    Youth Group, which for those of you who have been 

 7    here a while know that I have the honor of 

 8    serving as youth minister.  

 9                 And knowing Tommy for the better 

10    part of the last six years, he is truly an 

11    exceptional not only athlete, but just an amazing 

12    person.  He's currently maintaining a 3.8 GPA 

13    while making the Dean's List in each semester 

14    while taking physics and organic chemistry.  And 

15    he is truly a worthy recipient.  

16                 Unfortunately, he could not make it 

17    with us here today in the chamber because he's 

18    actually taking a final exam at college.  

19                 But with us in the chamber here 

20    today is Damien Crowley.  Damien Crowley is the 

21    recipient of the James Conte Academic 

22    Scholarship.  He is a senior at Wantagh High 

23    School and will be attending Stanford University 

24    in the fall to study chemical engineering, with a 

25    focus on environmental sustainability.  


                                                               3667

 1                 As a high school student he's worked 

 2    with Ph.D. candidates and post-doctoral 

 3    researchers at Stony Brook University in the 

 4    chemical and materials engineering department to 

 5    advance plastic sustainability and curtail soil 

 6    erosion and land degradation as a student 

 7    research intern with the Garcia Center for 

 8    Polymers at Engineered Interfaces.  

 9                 He also continues to serve as a 

10    research intern at Vesta Earth, modeling sediment 

11    transport and developing potential solutions to 

12    ecological degradation.  

13                 As a former Wantagh Warrior myself, 

14    I got the chance to meet Damien for the first 

15    time through his work with the Leukemia and 

16    Lymphoma Society as a volunteer, competing for 

17    two consecutive years in a seven-week fundraising 

18    challenge.  The team he captained, Warriors for a  

19    Cure, in the last two years has raised over 

20    $200,000 for LLS.  

21                 But in his spare time Damien is 

22    president of the Wantagh Animal Rights and 

23    Recycling Club, captain of the Wantagh High 

24    School Science Olympiad Team, vice president of 

25    Future Business Leaders of America, secretary of 


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 1    the Italian Club, treasurer of the Key Club, 

 2    member of the Mathletes Team, co-captain of the 

 3    Wantagh's Varsity Winter Track Team, a sprinter 

 4    co-captain of the Wantagh's Varsity Spring Track 

 5    Team, has received the AP Capstone diploma, is an 

 6    AP Scholar with Distinction, is a National Merit 

 7    Scholarship Winner, has received the New York 

 8    State Seal of Biliteracy in Italian, has given 

 9    oral presentations at the 2024 and 2025 Materials 

10    Research Society, and has published a research 

11    manuscript in the Journal of Emerging 

12    Investigators and articles in the Journal of 

13    Ethics and Scientific Technological Innovations 

14    as a high school student -- all while maintaining 

15    a cumulative weighted GPA of 108.78.

16                 Madam President, I would ask that 

17    you recognize Damien, and Thomas in absentia.  I 

18    would ask that you grant them the privileges and 

19    courtesies of the house, and your congratulations 

20    on our scholarship award winners.

21                 Thank you, Madam President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

23    you, Senator.

24                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton on the 

25    resolution.


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 1                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

 2    you, Madam President.  

 3                 And thank you, Senator Mattera, for 

 4    introducing this very important resolution in 

 5    honor of Italian American Day.

 6                 As a proud Italian American myself, 

 7    Scarcella -- if that doesn't give it away, and 

 8    probably my accent as well -- I really just 

 9    wanted to say that today is a really special day.  

10    We have Festa tonight.  

11                 And Italians have such an incredibly 

12    rich culture.  My dad's grandparents came over 

13    from Italy in 1903, Oronzo and Josephine.  He 

14    worked in the coal mines in Pennsylvania for some 

15    time, then he started to sell life insurance.  

16    With that money, he opened a store in Hazleton, 

17    Pennsylvania, on Carson Street.

18                 So today we have my -- yes?  We 

19    have -- you know, I rise today thinking of mostly 

20    my dad, Michael Scarcella, and his family.  They 

21    are the reason why we're here today, and I 

22    proudly vote aye.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

24    you, Senator.

25                 The question is on the resolution.  


                                                               3670

 1    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

 2                 (Response of "Aye.")

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Oh.  

 4    Senator Weik on the resolution.

 5                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.

 7                 As a proud German-American who's got 

 8    0.02 percent Italian in me -- I'm told that 

 9    counts -- I'm so proud to be able to recognize 

10    Bob Fonti, who's the president of the Italian 

11    American Political Action Committee and president 

12    of the Lt. Detective Joseph Petrosino Association 

13    in America.  And he's one of the only officers 

14    ever killed on foreign soil, is what I am told.  

15                 And so they play such a great big 

16    part on Long Island and across New York, and I 

17    thank them for being here today and for joining 

18    us.  

19                 And I proudly vote aye on today's 

20    resolution.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

22    you, Senator.

23                 The question is on the resolution.  

24    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

25                 (Response of "Aye.")


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

 2    nay.

 3                 (No response.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    resolution is adopted.

 6                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 7    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 8    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 9                 Please all rise and be recognized.

10                 (Standing ovation.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

12    Gianaris.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next up, 

14    Madam President, is previously adopted 

15    Resolution 588, by Senator Webb.  Please read 

16    that resolution's title and recognize 

17    Senator Webb.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

19    Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 588, by 

21    Senator Webb, mourning the death of John "JR" 

22    Gaudet, distinguished citizen, respected 

23    firefighter, and devoted member of his community.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Webb on the resolution.


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 1                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.  

 3                 I rise with a heavy heart to honor 

 4    the life, the service, and the enduring legacy of 

 5    John "JR" Gaudet.  He was a beloved husband, 

 6    father, son, community leader, and firefighter 

 7    from my district in Binghamton, New York, who 

 8    tragically lost his life in the line of duty on 

 9    February 12th of this year at the age of 40.

10                 For anyone that knew JR, they knew 

11    that he was more than a public servant.  He was a 

12    cornerstone of our community in Binghamton.  Born 

13    and raised right in my district, JR exemplified 

14    what it means to dedicate your life to others.  

15    His commitment to protecting our community was 

16    only matched by his deep love for his family; 

17    specifically, his wife, Felly, and their three 

18    children:  Charles, Vanessa and Michael.

19                 He was a proud graduate of 

20    Binghamton High School, my alma mater, and JR 

21    went on to attend both Binghamton University and 

22    SUNY Cortland, where he played collegiate 

23    lacrosse, a sport that remained close to his 

24    heart.  And for anyone that knew him, they knew 

25    that he also prided himself on being a coach and 


                                                               3673

 1    he was very enthusiastic about his love for that 

 2    sport. 

 3                 He later gave back as a youth coach 

 4    for lacrosse, football and basketball, and always 

 5    showed up with an infectious smile, a joke, 

 6    tireless energy, and unwavering positivity.  

 7    Those who knew JR describe him as someone who 

 8    always put others first, whether it was on the 

 9    job or in his family and throughout our 

10    community.  

11                 Whether it was responding to 

12    emergencies as a firefighter or mentoring young 

13    athletes on the field, JR's dedication to service 

14    and humanity touched countless lives.

15                 Madam President, JR Gaudet embodied 

16    the very best of us.  His spirit will live on not 

17    only through his family and friends, but also in 

18    the community that he loved and gave so much to.  

19                 As we mourn his loss and his 

20    transition, let us also honor his legacy by 

21    committing ourselves to a life of service, 

22    compassion, and care for one another.

23                 To Binghamton Fire Department 

24    Captain David Holleran, who is here today, and 

25    the Binghamton Fire Department, I just want you 


                                                               3674

 1    to know that your commitment to keeping his 

 2    legacy of service alive is a part of your work as 

 3    public servants, and we appreciate everything 

 4    that you do for our community in every way that 

 5    you show up.  

 6                 And to his wife, Felly, and to his 

 7    children and the entire Gaudet family, please 

 8    know that the 52nd Senate District and the entire 

 9    State of New York grieves with you.  And we thank 

10    you for sharing JR with us for the time that he 

11    was here.  We appreciate your continued great 

12    service and support all of the great things that 

13    you do for our community.

14                 May his memory continue to be a 

15    blessing, and may we carry forward his legacy of 

16    love and service.

17                 Madam President, please extend 

18    privileges of our house to Binghamton Fire 

19    Department Captain Holleran, and prayers to the 

20    family of JR Gaudet and all those whose lives 

21    he's touched.  

22                 I vote aye and encourage my 

23    colleagues to do the same.

24                 Thank you, Madam President.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 


                                                               3675

 1    you.

 2                 To our guests -- God bless you -- 

 3    our condolences to you and the entire Fire 

 4    Department and to the family of JR.  I welcome 

 5    you on behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you 

 6    the privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 7                 Please rise and be recognized.  

 8                 (Standing ovation.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    resolution was adopted on April 2nd.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

13    Senator Hinchey for an introduction.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

15    Hinchey for an introduction.

16                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 Pop quiz:  Who can tell me what the 

19    four H's are in 4-H?  I bet the students in the 

20    gallery can tell us.  The answer is head, heart, 

21    hands, and health.  Head, to clearer thinking.  

22    Heart, to greater loyalty.  Hands, to larger 

23    service.  And health, to better living.

24                 We're excited to welcome students 

25    from across New York State to the Senate chamber 


                                                               3676

 1    today because today marks the 90th Annual 4-H 

 2    Capital Days Conference.  That's 90 years of 

 3    4-Hers coming to Albany to learn about state 

 4    government, meet their representatives and 

 5    connect with fellow 4-Hers from different 

 6    communities.  

 7                 If you're not familiar, 4-H is the 

 8    largest youth development organization in the 

 9    country, thanks to Cornell Cooperative Extension.  

10    Every year when I go to the Ulster County Fair, 

11    the Columbia County Fair, the Greene County Youth 

12    Fair, I'm blown away by the creativity, 

13    confidence, and self-expression coming from our 

14    4-Hers.  

15                 You take the things you care about 

16    and turn them into projects that teach, advocate 

17    and open minds.  Whether it's raising animals, 

18    learning about food and farming, protecting the 

19    environment, creating art, or sharpening your 

20    public speaking skills, 4-H is about building 

21    real-world skills and giving you the space to 

22    explore and run with your curiosities about the 

23    world.  

24                 The impact of that speaks for 

25    itself.  4-Hers are four times more likely to 


                                                               3677

 1    have a positive impact in their communities, 

 2    three times more likely to feel confident, and 

 3    twice as likely to pursue STEM and make healthy 

 4    choices.  

 5                 Last year alone, more than 400,000 

 6    students across New York State took part in 4-H.  

 7    That's incredible.  So keep asking questions, 

 8    keep taking risks, keep being curious, keep 

 9    showing up for yourself, for your community, and 

10    for what drives you.  It takes courage to try 

11    something new.  And that can be a really 

12    vulnerable place to be.  But it's also where the 

13    real growth happens.  

14                 Thank you all for being here and for 

15    reminding us what service and courage look like 

16    in action.  And a special shout out to 4-Hers 

17    Ella Maxwell and Zachary Maroney, who are here 

18    representing Ulster County, from my district, 

19    from Highland and my hometown of Saugerties.  

20                 Madam President, please welcome our 

21    guests to the chamber and offer them all the 

22    privileges.  Thank you very much.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

24    you, Senator.

25                 To our guests, we welcome you on 


                                                               3678

 1    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 2    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 3                 Please all rise and be recognized.

 4                 (Standing ovation.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Gianaris.

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   One more 

 8    introduction, from Senator Gounardes, please.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

10    Gounardes for an introduction.  

11                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 I rise today to honor and introduce 

14    a remarkable New Yorker who was a giant in the 

15    field of public transportation and public transit 

16    because he spent 20 years serving on the board of 

17    the MTA.  

18                 We discuss the MTA a lot in this 

19    chamber in the work that we do here in Albany, 

20    and we have -- we talk about it sometimes in the 

21    abstract, we talk about it sometimes in the 

22    real-life.  But Norman Brown, who spent 20 years 

23    as a board member on the MTA, who just retired, 

24    lived his service to the MTA every single day.  

25    He devoted himself to the stewardship and 


                                                               3679

 1    improvement of public transit for all New Yorkers 

 2    through his service on the board.

 3                 As a labor representative for the 

 4    Metro-North commuter rail, he was a champion for 

 5    the workers who helped power our public transit, 

 6    and he was a committed voice for the importance 

 7    that public transit plays to our region's 

 8    economy.  

 9                 But that's not all, because he is 

10    also a scholar of transportation policy, and he 

11    has helped push and advocated for policy 

12    interests -- policy campaigns to help further the 

13    interests of riders and help strengthen our 

14    public transit system for decades.  

15                 He has a deep knowledge, not just of 

16    mass transit but of freight rail as well.  And he 

17    is someone whose expertise ranges from 

18    maintenance issues on the shop floor to the 

19    macroeconomics of transportation.  

20                 After 20 years of service on the 

21    MTA Board -- without a vote -- he's probably had 

22    more impact on the MTA and on public transit than 

23    many of us in this room and even board members 

24    who have had a vote for even half that time.  

25                 Norman is with us here today in the 


                                                               3680

 1    chamber with his guests.  And so, 

 2    Madam President, I'd ask that you'd recognize him 

 3    and give him the full courtesies and privileges 

 4    of the chamber.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator.  

 7                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 8    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 9    privileges and courtesies of this house.  Thank 

10    you for your service.  

11                 Please rise and be recognized.

12                 (Standing ovation.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

14    Gianaris.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next up is 

16    previously adopted Resolution 279, by 

17    Senator Rhoads.  Please have that resolution's 

18    title read and recognize Senator Rhoads.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 279, by 

22    Senator Rhoads, memorializing Governor 

23    Kathy Hochul to proclaim June 2025 as 

24    Aphasia Awareness Month in the State of New York.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 


                                                               3681

 1    Rhoads on the resolution.

 2                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 3    Madam President.  

 4                 Again, I rise and I thank the leader 

 5    for allowing this resolution to come to the floor 

 6    to recognize June 2025 as Aphasia Awareness Month 

 7    in the State of New York.  

 8                 Many people don't know what aphasia 

 9    is, but it impacts over 2 million people a year.  

10    In fact, 40 percent of individuals who suffer a 

11    stroke are eventually diagnosed with some impact 

12    of aphasia.  

13                 And aphasia is an impairment of 

14    language affecting the production or 

15    comprehension of speech and the ability to read 

16    or write.  And this condition occurs when the 

17    part of the brain that's required for 

18    communication abilities is damaged due to a 

19    stroke, brain injury, or other neurological 

20    condition.  

21                 Those affected by aphasia often 

22    struggle to come up with words, to say what they 

23    mean, read quickly or to their full ability, or 

24    even remember how to spell words that they used 

25    to be able to read and write.  They have 


                                                               3682

 1    difficulty understanding conversations as well as 

 2    following conversations.  And this becomes a 

 3    particular problem when they're trying to 

 4    communicate with their own doctors, which leads 

 5    to them not asking the appropriate questions to 

 6    professionals and to signing forms without proper 

 7    understanding of the situation.

 8                 Raising awareness is key.  

 9                 And with us in the chamber we are 

10    honored to have Matthew Weingartner.  Now, 

11    Matthew was an avid college baseball player.  

12    Matt had two open-heart surgeries in 2006 and 

13    2017, resulting in an infection, which triggered 

14    a stroke on April 18th of 2018 and a diagnosis of 

15    Broca's aphasia.

16                 Like so many people that we 

17    recognize in this chamber, Matthew, though, took 

18    a personal tragedy and turned it into an 

19    opportunity to try and do something positive for 

20    others, using it as a chance to raise awareness, 

21    becoming a national spokesperson for the National 

22    Aphasia Awareness Foundation, as well as creating 

23    his own YouTube channel, A Matter of Matt, which 

24    I would encourage everyone to follow, to hear 

25    about his life story and his efforts to raise 


                                                               3683

 1    awareness of aphasia.

 2                 Matt also I'm sure would want me to 

 3    mention that he is having his first annual 

 4    Aphasia Awareness Resource Fair on June 25th of 

 5    2025, from 10:00 in the morning to 12:00 in the 

 6    afternoon at Long Island University Library 

 7    Room L123, the Zwicker Conference Center, again 

 8    on June 25, 2025.

 9                 So, Madam President, I certainly 

10    rise in support of the resolution, which was 

11    previously adopted.  But also I would ask that 

12    you recognize Matthew, his dad, Wayne, who has 

13    joined him as well as I believe he's brought two 

14    other guests to us in the chamber.  Please 

15    welcome them on behalf of the Senate and please 

16    grant to them the privileges and courtesies of 

17    the house.  

18                 Thank you, Madam President.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

20    you, Senator.

21                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

22    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

23    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

24                 Please rise and be recognized.

25                 (Standing ovation.)


                                                               3684

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    resolution was adopted on February 4th.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now on to 

 5    previously adopted Resolution 962.  Please have 

 6    that resolution's title read and recognize 

 7    Senator Cleare on her resolution.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 962, by 

11    Senator Cleare, commemorating the 100th Birthday 

12    of Malcolm X, an advocate for human rights and 

13    one of the most influential African-American 

14    leaders in history.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Cleare on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Thank you.  Good 

18    afternoon, Madam President.

19                 I rise to pay tribute to one of the 

20    most important Americans -- New Yorkers -- in the 

21    history of the world:  El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, 

22    known to many as Malcolm X.  Today would have 

23    been his 100th birthday.  And when we ponder the 

24    transformation he undertook in only 39 years on 

25    this earth, we can only wonder where we would be 


                                                               3685

 1    with 61 more years of his leadership.

 2                 Malcolm X may have been born in 

 3    Nebraska, but many of the most essential events 

 4    of his life happened in a village that I 

 5    represent -- Harlem.  He spent part of his 

 6    transformative youth in Harlem from 1943 to 1945.  

 7    He returned to Harlem in the 1950s to lead Temple 

 8    No. 7 on West 116th Street, which today is known 

 9    as Masjid Malcolm Shabazz.

10                 Upon his return to New York in 1965, 

11    he was assassinated.  

12                 The birthday of Malcolm X is a 

13    significant annual event in any district, but I 

14    would dare say throughout other parts of New York 

15    City, New York State, and even the world.  That 

16    is because Malcolm's journey and evolution has 

17    not only inspired billions of people worldwide, 

18    but so many of those people lived the very same 

19    experience, took the very same steps, fought 

20    against the very same racism and injustice, and 

21    some have even paid the ultimate price, much like 

22    Brother Malcolm did.

23                 The Village of Harlem has always 

24    paid tribute to Malcolm X.  In 1987, Lenox Avenue 

25    was renamed Malcolm X Boulevard.  We landmarked 


                                                               3686

 1    the former Audubon Ballroom as Malcolm X and 

 2    Dr. Betty Shabazz Memorial and Educational 

 3    Center.  And 25 years ago, Malcolm X Plaza was 

 4    dedicated as gateway to Harlem.  

 5                 And this year, when my bill S1204 

 6    passes, we will rename the underlying subway 

 7    station at West 110th Street the Malcolm X Plaza 

 8    Station.

 9                 2025 is not only the 100th birthday 

10    of Malcolm X, but also the commencement of the 

11    100th anniversary of the Harlem Renaissance, in 

12    which he played a great part.  The two milestones 

13    will combine in a series of events this year like 

14    no other, combining celebration, teaching, 

15    community service, education and advocacy.

16                 As we work and move forward in this 

17    2025 legislative session, let us remember the 

18    words of Malcolm X:  "When one is moderate in the 

19    pursuit of justice for human beings, I say he's a 

20    sinner."  And in that vein, let us be united 

21    against sin and not be moderate in our efforts, 

22    but purposeful and deliberate.

23                 May the memory of Malcolm X be with 

24    us today, and may his lessons and teachings grace 

25    us here in the chamber.


                                                               3687

 1                 Thank you, Madam President.  I 

 2    proudly vote aye.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator.

 5                 Senator Comrie on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 I rise today to support 

 9    Senator Cleare's resolution.  I want to thank her 

10    for bringing this to the floor.  Malcolm X in the 

11    final years before his life was cut short lived 

12    in Elmhurst, Queens, in now Senator Ramos's 

13    district, with his family.  

14                 It's hard not to think about how 

15    different our borough would be if he had a chance 

16    to live a full life there.  

17                 One of the most important aspects of 

18    Malcolm X's story, and perhaps the most 

19    applicable today, is that he managed to escape an 

20    idolatry of hatred.  Growing up in Black America 

21    in the first half of the 20th century, it is not 

22    understandable -- it is understandable not to 

23    blame him for being indoctrinated.  When you 

24    experience any amount of mistreatment, oppression 

25    or suffering, it is easy to be convinced that 


                                                               3688

 1    there's a distinct group at fault -- a group that 

 2    you can lash out against with impunity.  

 3                 But then after going to Africa, the 

 4    pilgrimage to Mecca, Malcolm X was overcome with 

 5    a great sense of connection with people of all 

 6    colors, Muslims of all colors, who had come to 

 7    pray just as he had at the Kaaba.  And this 

 8    connection changed the way that he wrote, the way 

 9    that he thought about teachings he'd received, 

10    and the way that he spoke.

11                 Malcolm X said just days before his 

12    death that he understood the world around him in 

13    a new way.  After listening to revolutionaries 

14    and speaking with Muslims from around the world, 

15    he realized just how dangerous a tool racism was 

16    for the oppressed to wield against their 

17    oppressors.  And that only through unity can the 

18    human race escape today's violence and suffering.  

19                 This did not change the fire within 

20    him that drove him to fight, but redirected him 

21    towards the causes of human dignity and rights 

22    for all.  

23                 We still see today how extremist 

24    groups prey on those who are hurt, who feel 

25    trapped in poverty and are unable to escape.  But 


                                                               3689

 1    those fully committed to those extreme beliefs -- 

 2    I'm sorry.  We see these groups slowly turn those 

 3    people to hatred and violence.  But even those 

 4    who have had hatred and violence in their hearts 

 5    can be fully committed and be deprogrammed.  They 

 6    can be redirected towards the root of the 

 7    struggles that they've faced and be redirected to 

 8    show that they can be positive people.

 9                 Malcolm X shows us the tremendous 

10    power of education and the immense importance of 

11    speaking truth to power without fear of reprisal.  

12    And it is a part of our history that we must 

13    continue to be students of if we are to prevent 

14    the same suffering and tragedy from happening 

15    again.

16                 To close with a few words from his 

17    autobiography:  "I'm for truth, no matter who 

18    tells it.  I'm for justice, no matter who it is 

19    for or against.  I'm a human being first and 

20    foremost, and I'm for whoever and whatever 

21    benefits humanity as a whole."

22                 As we are here in these chambers, 

23    Madam Speaker, I would remind us that we are all 

24    truth-tellers.  We should all be truth-tellers.  

25    We're all fighters for our communities to try to 


                                                               3690

 1    make this a better state.  And we should be like 

 2    Malcolm, consistently seeking the truth, fighting 

 3    those pillars or those bureaucracies that keep us 

 4    from trying to get to the truth, so that we can 

 5    have a better state.

 6                 Thank you, Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 8    you, Senator.

 9                 Senator Bailey on the resolution.

10                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 Thank you, Senator Cleare, for 

13    introducing this resolution.  

14                 Brother Malcolm would have been a 

15    hundred years old today.  Senator Cleare mention 

16    it in her remarks.  The age of 39 seems to be the 

17    year when two of our greatest were taken from us: 

18    Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, and 

19    Brother Malcolm, Malcolm X.  

20                 Malcolm X is the -- whether people 

21    believe it or not, he is the greatest American 

22    story or one of the greatest American stories of 

23    believing in second chances.  Malcolm Little, 

24    born in Omaha, Nebraska, had a childhood full of 

25    problems, a young adulthood full of problems, 


                                                               3691

 1    including but not limited to incarceration, 

 2    drugs, et cetera, et cetera.  But he found 

 3    something deeper and became somebody who on the 

 4    very floor of the New York State Senate whose 

 5    birthday we proclaim.  

 6                 That is one of the greatest American 

 7    second-chance stories.  Not just Black, American.  

 8    Black history is American history.  It's not 

 9    February but I feel the need, Madam President, to 

10    make sure we remind people of that every day.  We 

11    can.  

12                 One of my favorite movies, 

13    Madam President, is Do the Right Thing.  It's a 

14    Spike Lee Joint.  I didn't realize until today, 

15    when I was doing a little prep, that that movie 

16    came out on May 19, 1989, Brother Malcolm's 

17    birthday.  I was seven years old, and I wasn't 

18    able to watch Do the Right Thing at that time, 

19    Madam President.  My parents had a little bit 

20    more sense than that.  I watched it when I was 

21    eight -- just kidding.  

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 SENATOR BAILEY:   But when I did get 

24    a chance to watch that movie, it's become one of 

25    my favorite movies.  And it's like Brother Comrie 


                                                               3692

 1    said:  We should aspire to do the right thing.  

 2                 Well, doing the right thing means 

 3    different things to different people.  Do the 

 4    right thing may mean that you read the 

 5    autobiography of Malcolm X with Alex Haley and 

 6    you think that the job is over.  It's not.  

 7                 Maybe you watched the movie in '92 

 8    with Denzel and you saw him deliver what should 

 9    have been an Oscar-winning performance.  But 

10    that's not.  

11                 But what I challenge us to do, all 

12    of us -- even those of us who know Brother 

13    Malcolm's story, is to dig deeper into who he 

14    was.  If you've never gotten a chance, "The 

15    Ballot or the Bullet," March 29, 1964, in Audubon 

16    Ballroom, when he spoke about the famous quote 

17    that you hear in the movie:  "We didn't land on 

18    Plymouth Rock.  Plymouth Rock landed on us."

19                 It's not just a throwaway line, 

20    Madam President.  When they brought Black folks 

21    to this country, they didn't contemplate that we 

22    would be a part of the conversation.  If you go 

23    through the story, if you go through the speech, 

24    he talks about we gave 310 years of free labor, 

25    we just want to get our back pay, so to speak.  


                                                               3693

 1    I'm paraphrasing there.  

 2                 I want us to think about the country 

 3    and the troubled country that we have, and think 

 4    about how we continue to rise as a society, as 

 5    one.

 6                 You've heard me say it on the floor 

 7    of the Senate, but my favorite Malcolm X quote -- 

 8    well, two:  "By any means necessary."  And the 

 9    "Education is the passport to the future, for 

10    tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it 

11    today."

12                 We have to continue to prepare for 

13    the future by doing the work that we do in this 

14    chamber.  Dr. Betty Shabazz, after Malcolm X's 

15    assassination, moved to my district, to the City 

16    of Mount Vernon, where she raised her daughters.  

17    In Lower Westchester County, in the City of 

18    Mount Vernon, they became pillars of the 

19    community.  

20                 I challenge us again, on this 100 -- 

21    on the centennial -- he was a big enough man that 

22    we've got to use big enough things -- centennial 

23    celebration of Brother Malcolm, that we do what 

24    we can to make sure that we continue to unify and 

25    uplift all people.  


                                                               3694

 1                 Thank you, Madam President, I vote 

 2    aye.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator.

 5                 The resolution was adopted on 

 6    May 13th.

 7                 Senator Gianaris.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 9    the sponsors of all of today's resolutions would 

10    like to open them for cosponsorship.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

13    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 

14    the desk.

15                 Senator Gianaris.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

17    Senator Myrie, on page 15 I offer the following 

18    amendments to Calendar Number 390, Senate Print 

19    3789, and ask that that bill retain its place on 

20    the Third Reading Calendar.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

22    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

23    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 


                                                               3695

 1    the calendar now, please.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    109, Senate Print 518, by Senator Persaud, an act 

 6    to amend the Executive Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 109, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

19    Helming, Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

20    Stec and Walczyk.

21                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 12.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    178, Senate Print 1055, by Senator Serrano, an 


                                                               3696

 1    act to amend the Executive Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 178, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

14    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

15    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

16    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 21.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    244, Senate Print 700, by Senator Krueger, an act 

22    to amend the Tax Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               3697

 1    act shall take effect on the first of April.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Krueger to explain her vote.

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 This is an expansion of a law we 

10    changed a few years ago that was brought to my 

11    attention by law students representing people 

12    outside the City of New York who had lost their 

13    licenses because they couldn't afford to pay 

14    their tax debts.  And without their licenses, 

15    they couldn't go to work and ever pay back their 

16    tax debt.

17                 So the state had gone part of the 

18    way then, and we're hoping to go the remainder of 

19    the way now.  Because we don't actually collect 

20    the taxes owed to us when people can't get a job 

21    to pay their taxes.  So it seems to me, while I'm 

22    never in a rush to want to let people off the 

23    hook for not paying their taxes, this bill 

24    requires you document why you couldn't pay your 

25    taxes.  And in fact, again, in the City of 


                                                               3698

 1    New York where I come from, not that many people 

 2    need a driver's license to get to and from work, 

 3    but in the rest of the state they really do.  

 4                 So I respect my colleagues' decision 

 5    to vote against the bill.  But if they think 

 6    about it, this is really for the people of their 

 7    district.

 8                 I vote yes, Madam President.  Thank 

 9    you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                 Announce the results.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 244, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

16    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

17    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

18    Stec, Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

19                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 19.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    260, Senate Print 1892B, by Senator Jackson, an 

24    act to amend the Correction Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               3699

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 260, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

12    O'Mara, Rhoads, Rolison, Walczyk and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 9.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    439, Senate Print 4926, by Senator Ramos, an act 

18    to amend the Workers' Compensation Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               3700

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 439, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Lanza and Walczyk.

 7                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 2.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    504, Senate Print 4757, by Senator Bailey, an act 

12    to amend the Executive Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the first of April.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 504, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators O'Mara, Ortt and Walczyk.

25                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 3.


                                                               3701

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    507, Senate Print 5138, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 5    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

 7    the day, please.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    will be laid aside for the day.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    560, Senate Print 5149, by Senator Comrie, an act 

12    to amend the State Finance Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               3702

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    663, Senate Print 1467, by Senator Serrano, an 

 3    act to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

 4    Preservation Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    740, Senate Print 1788, by Senator Hinchey, an 

20    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               3703

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    745, Senate Print 405, by Senator Myrie, an act 

10    to amend the Tax Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 745, voting in the negative:  

22    Senator Walczyk.

23                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 1.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               3704

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    748, Senate Print 1211, by Senator May, an act in 

 3    relation to enacting the New York Open Water Data 

 4    Act.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    763, Senate Print Number 6281, by 

20    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the 

21    State Finance Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               3705

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.  

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    772, Senate Print 7551, by Senator Bynoe, an act 

11    to establish the Bottle Redemption Fraud 

12    Task Force.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 772, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Helming, Lanza, Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, 

25    Ortt and Weik.


                                                               3706

 1                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 7.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    932, Senate Print 4200, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 6    act to amend the Banking Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

 8    Number 893 is high and will be laid aside for the 

 9    day.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    932, Senate Print 4200, by Senator Gounardes, an 

12    act to amend the Banking Law.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               3707

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    986, Assembly Bill 2398, by Assemblymember 

 3    Gallagher, an act to amend the Judiciary Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

12    Fernandez to explain her vote.

13                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 This bill changes one word.  It 

16    changes the word "addict" with a few more -- 

17    whoops, sorry.  This bill changes one word.  In 

18    our General Law and our Judiciary Law, County 

19    Law, the word "addict" is everywhere.  We are 

20    changing that word to "person with substance use 

21    disorder" across multiple areas of New York State 

22    law.  

23                 Because behind that one word is 

24    decades of stigma, criminalization, and policy 

25    failure.  The term "addict" entered New York 


                                                               3708

 1    statute in 1972, just as heroin was tearing 

 2    through poor and Black and brown communities.  A 

 3    year later, the Rockefeller drug laws -- and 

 4    overnight, stigma entered statute.

 5                 Our jails became de facto mental 

 6    health institutions as people in crisis were 

 7    locked away instead of treated.  Being an addict 

 8    was seen as a choice, as a moral failing 

 9    deserving of punishment.  Those who were 

10    struggling were hidden behind bars and away from 

11    the eyes of the public.  

12                 But now we know better.  Substance 

13    use disorder is a chronic relapsing health 

14    condition, and the science and lived experience 

15    tells us clearly shame does not save lives.  

16    Treatment does.  

17                 Our words matter, and this bill 

18    addresses that point directly.  It follows the 

19    same logic behind renaming our committee, from 

20    alcoholism and drug abuse to alcoholism and 

21    substance use disorders.

22                 It is a simple truth:  Words shape 

23    culture, and culture shapes policy.  We've spent 

24    decades cleaning up the damage of the War on 

25    Drugs, and this bill is one more step in that 


                                                               3709

 1    process towards accuracy, compassion and justice.  

 2                 I proudly vote aye.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Senator Bailey to explain his vote.

 6                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 I really want to thank 

 9    Senator Fernandez on her leadership on this bill 

10    and in the committee.  As she mentioned, she's 

11    changed the name of the committee because words 

12    do matter.  Right?  The way that we think about 

13    people and the way that we think about words, 

14    they really do matter.  And we have to be 

15    intentional in the way that we utilize our words.

16                 Born in 1982, lived in the Bronx, 

17    New York.  When I was growing up, people used to 

18    use the words "addict," "junkie," "crackhead," 

19    "fiend," all of these things interchangeably when 

20    they were talking about people who had 

21    significant issues.  And they just weren't being 

22    helped.  They were thought as people that were 

23    essentially subhuman.  

24                 But when it became evident that it 

25    was in more communities than just the Black and 


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 1    brown communities, the conversation shifted.  I'm 

 2    happy that we shifted the conversation.  But this 

 3    conversation should have happened long ago.  It's 

 4    very important that it's happening now.  And the 

 5    way that we look at people who have addictions, 

 6    that have afflictions, that have concerns that 

 7    they need to be ameliorated, is really important, 

 8    and that they can be treated with humanity and 

 9    respect like everybody else, regardless of what 

10    they may or may not be facing.  

11                 So Senator Fernandez, hats off to 

12    you once again.  

13                 Thank you to my colleagues for 

14    voting for this bill.  I proudly vote aye on this 

15    bill, and we must continue to make sure we change 

16    the way -- because words do matter, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 Thank you.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Senator May to explain her vote.

22                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

23    Madam President.  

24                 I also want to thank the sponsor for 

25    this bill.  This is really important.  When I was 


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 1    first elected and made the chair of the 

 2    Commission on Rural Resources, one of the first 

 3    things we did was hold a roundtable about 

 4    substance abuse and overdose prevention in rural 

 5    communities.  And what came out loud and clear at 

 6    that roundtable was that stigma was the 

 7    number-one problem that rural people dealt with 

 8    when they were trying to either recover or help a 

 9    loved one.  

10                 We even heard about first responders 

11    who would be called multiple times to the same 

12    address, and they would drag their feet a little 

13    bit more each time when they had to go to that 

14    same address because they carried the stigma as 

15    well.

16                 So I hope that this change can be 

17    part of really addressing what was part of an 

18    epidemic, honestly not just of substance abuse 

19    and overdoses, but of stigma.  Literally stigma 

20    was the epidemic in a lot of rural communities, 

21    and I really hope that this can make a 

22    difference.  

23                 So thank you, and I vote aye.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    May to be recorded in the affirmative.


                                                               3712

 1                 Announce the results.  

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 986, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Lanza and Senator Walczyk.

 5                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 2.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1013, Senate Print 627, by Senator Stavisky, an 

10    act to amend the Education Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1025, Senate Print 1336, by Senator Parker, an 

25    act to amend the New York State Urban Development 


                                                               3713

 1    Corporation Act.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1026, Senate Print 4945, by Senator Comrie, 

16    an act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               3714

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1028, Senate Print 6018, by Senator Baskin, an 

 7    act in relation to authorizing and directing the 

 8    New York State Power Authority to rename the 

 9    Robert Moses Niagara Power Plant to the 

10    Shirley J. Hamilton Niagara Power Plant.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1028, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

23    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

24    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

25    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.


                                                               3715

 1                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 21.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1037, Senate Print 550, by Senator Brisport, an 

 6    act to amend the Social Services Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1037, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Bynoe and Martinez.

19                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 2.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1084, Senate Print 3294, by Senator Cooney, an 

24    act to amend the Cannabis Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               3716

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    Krueger to explain her vote.

 9                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

10    much.  

11                 I want to thank Senator Cooney for 

12    bringing this bill to the floor, and hoping we 

13    get it passed by both houses this year.  

14                 You know, when I wrote the marijuana 

15    regulation bill in 2016 we made some significant 

16    changes to medical marijuana, but in fact there 

17    are a number of things that we failed to do, and 

18    modernization has allowed us to do more.  

19                 I particularly want to highlight the 

20    importance of lowering, even though it does not 

21    completely end taxation of medical marijuana -- I 

22    don't know of any other medicine in the State of 

23    New York that we actually tax.  

24                 It will also streamline the process 

25    for collecting research on medical marijuana and 


                                                               3717

 1    its values, and hopefully make it easier for 

 2    patients to learn the information they need to 

 3    make the right decisions with their healthcare 

 4    provider about what kind of cannabis products 

 5    might be in their best interest, depending on 

 6    what their illness is.  

 7                 So again, thank you very much to 

 8    Senator Cooney for this very good work.

 9                 I vote yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                 Announce the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1084, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

16    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

17    Mattera -- Senator Griffo, pardon me, in the 

18    affirmative -- Lanza, Martinez, Mattera, Murray, 

19    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, 

20    Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 19.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1089, Senate Print 4969, by Senator Bailey, an 


                                                               3718

 1    act to amend the Public Health Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Bailey to explain his vote.

12                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 I was reminded earlier that this is 

15    the penultimate bill on the agenda.  Thank you, 

16    Senator Ashby, for reminding me.  It means next 

17    to last.  

18                 But if you are the victim of gun 

19    violence or you're involved in gun violence, you 

20    should have more hope.  You should have the 

21    ability to consult with a psychiatric specialist 

22    to have a mental health consultation after that 

23    incident.  Because if anybody has ever been 

24    involved or around when gun violence happens, 

25    it's not just a physical injury that affects the 


                                                               3719

 1    families.  It is the trauma of the individual 

 2    that has been shot.  It is the trauma of those 

 3    around them in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

 4                 So making sure this is available to 

 5    individuals who have been involved in this sort 

 6    of gun violence I think is critically important.  

 7    And it speaks to what we've done in this chamber, 

 8    making sure that we recognize gun violence as 

 9    part of a public health crisis.  It is a public 

10    health problem.  It is not just people picking up 

11    weapons.  We have to get to the root causes, and 

12    some of these consultations will maybe help us 

13    get to the root causes.  

14                 Thank you, Madam President.  Thank 

15    you to everybody for voting yes.  I vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 1089, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

22    Lanza, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

23    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 14.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               3720

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1096, Senate Print 2355, by Senator Parker, an 

 4    act to amend the Public Service Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.  

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1096, voting in the negative:  

16    Senator C. Ryan.  

17                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 1.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

21    reading of today's calendar.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

23    Senator Lanza for a motion.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Lanza.


                                                               3721

 1                 SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

 2    Senator Gianaris.  

 3                 Madam President, on behalf of 

 4    Senator Rolison, on page 43 I offer the following 

 5    amendments to Calendar Number 866, Senate Print 

 6    6927, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

 7    Third Reading Calendar.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

10    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

13    further business at the desk?

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

15    no further business at the desk.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

17    adjourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, May 20th, at 

18    3:00 p.m.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

20    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

21    Tuesday, May 20th, at 3:00 p.m.

22                 (Whereupon, at 4:42 p.m., the Senate 

23    adjourned.)

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