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Wednesday, February 25, 2026

3:40 PMRegular SessionALBANY, NEW YORK
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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  February 25, 2026

11                      3:40 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ANTONIO DELGADO, President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Senate will 

 3    come to order.  

 4                 Everyone please rise and recite the 

 5    Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   Rabbi Joshua Rabin, 

 9    of the Astoria Center of Israel in Queens, 

10    New York, will deliver today's invocation.

11                 RABBI RABIN:   With the community's 

12    permission, let us pray.

13                 Picture a child and a parent on a 

14    dangerous journey.  The parent carries the child 

15    on their shoulders, shielding them from harm, but 

16    the child, unaware of who is holding them up, 

17    asks:  Where is my parent?  

18                 In response, the parent sets the 

19    child down, and the child is bitten by a dog.

20                 This ancient midrash, a Jewish word 

21    for parable or legend, accompanies the story in 

22    Exodus of the Israelites being attacked by a 

23    nation known as Amalek, just after their 

24    liberation from Egypt, which Jews around the 

25    world will read this week on what is known as 


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 1    Shabbat Zachor, or the Shabbat of Memory.  

 2                 It is a story of vulnerability, but 

 3    it is also a story about awareness, about what 

 4    happens when we fail to recognize what sustains 

 5    us.  The Torah's command regarding Amalek begins 

 6    with a single word:  Yizaharta {ph}, "and you 

 7    shall remember."  

 8                 Today we have no idea who this 

 9    nation is.  The command does not become a literal 

10    directive but a moral warning.  Amalek represents 

11    what emerges when memory and gratitude recede and 

12    when we forget how deeply interdependent we truly 

13    are.  

14                 No one thrives alone.  Each of us is 

15    carried, often invisibly, by others -- the people 

16    who prepare our food, maintain our roads, plow 

17    our streets, teach our children, care for our 

18    sick, keep our communities functioning day after 

19    day.  They carry us on their shoulders, whether 

20    we see them or not.  

21                 What happens when we forget?  I am a 

22    rabbi who teaches about the lifesaving power of 

23    organ donation.  When I speak, I ask people to 

24    imagine someone who, at first glance, appears to 

25    have nothing in common with them.  And then I ask 


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 1    them to imagine that years later they find that 

 2    that person's final act of generosity saved the 

 3    life of someone you love.  

 4                 In that moment, distance collapses.  

 5    We discover what was always true:  We need each 

 6    other, even when we choose not to see it.  

 7                 My blessing for you today is this.  

 8    May you remember.  May you remember those whose 

 9    labor makes the state function.  May you remember 

10    those who are unseen in the drafting of policy 

11    but deeply affected by it.  May you remember that 

12    power, too, rests on shoulders not always 

13    visible.  

14                 I offer this prayer in the name of 

15    my God, and with the deepest respect to whomever 

16    you pray.  

17                 And let us say amen.  

18                 (Response of "Amen.")

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, Rabbi.

20                 Reading of the Journal.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Tuesday, 

22    February 24, 2026, the Senate met pursuant to 

23    adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, February 23, 

24    2026, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

25    Senate adjourned.


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 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   Without objection, 

 2    the Journal stands approved as read.

 3                 Presentation of petitions.

 4                 Messages from the Assembly.

 5                 Messages from the Governor.

 6                 Reports of standing committees.

 7                 Reports of select committees.

 8                 Communications and reports from 

 9    state officers.

10                 Motions and resolutions.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

13    Mr. President.

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   Good afternoon.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

16    Senator Myrie, I wish to call up Senate Print 

17    438, recalled from the Assembly, which is now at 

18    the desk.

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

20    read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    296, Senate Print 438, by Senator Myrie, an act 

23    to amend the Insurance Law.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

25    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.  


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 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

 2    call the roll on reconsideration.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.  

 5                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is 

 6    restored to its place on the Third Reading 

 7    Calendar.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

 9    following amendments.

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   The amendments are 

11    received.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Amendments are 

13    also offered to the following Third Reading 

14    Calendar bills:  

15                 By Senator Myrie, page 13, Calendar 

16    Number 205, Senate Print 8609; 

17                 By Senator Salazar, page 18, 

18    Calendar Number 287, Senate Print 156.

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   The amendments are 

20    received, and the bills will retain their place 

21    on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                 Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I now move to 

24    adopt the Resolution Calendar, with the exception 

25    of Resolutions 1630 and 1633.


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 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   All those in favor 

 2    of adopting the Resolution Calendar, with the 

 3    exception of Resolutions 1630 and 1633, please 

 4    signify by saying aye.

 5                 (Response of "Aye.")

 6                 THE PRESIDENT:   Opposed, nay.

 7                 (No response.)

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Resolution 

 9    Calendar is adopted.

10                 Senator Gianaris.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now let's take 

12    up Resolution 1633, by Senator Webb, read its 

13    title, and recognize Senator Webb.

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

15    read.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1633, by 

17    Senator Webb, memorializing Governor Kathy Hochul 

18    to proclaim February 23, 2026, as 

19    Domestic Violence Awareness and Prevention Day in 

20    the State of New York.

21                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Webb.

22                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

23    Mr. President.  

24                 I rise and I first want to thank our 

25    Senate Majority Leader for allowing this 


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 1    resolution to come forward that essentially would 

 2    direct the Governor to proclaim February 23rd as 

 3    Domestic Violence Awareness and Prevention Day in 

 4    the State of New York.

 5                 Every minute, 24 people in the 

 6    United States become victims of domestic 

 7    violence, sexual assault or stalking.  That is 

 8    more than 12 million people every year.  These 

 9    are our neighbors, our friends, our coworkers, 

10    and our loved ones.

11                 Domestic violence is a public health 

12    crisis, and it knows no boundaries.  It impacts 

13    individuals regardless of race, gender, sexual 

14    orientation and socioeconomic status.

15                 According to an annual survey 

16    conducted by the National Network to End 

17    Domestic Violence, New York State consistently 

18    has the greatest demand for domestic violence 

19    services in the country, with more than 

20    10,609 survivors requesting services on just one 

21    day in the year of 2024, and more than 

22    1700 unfulfilled service requests on that same 

23    day because of insufficient resource or staff.

24                 Domestic violence also knows no age 

25    limitation, as youth are most certainly impacted 


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 1    by this issue, with a recent survey reporting 

 2    that in the past year nearly 21 percent of 

 3    high school females and 10.4 percent of 

 4    high school males experienced some form of teen 

 5    dating violence.

 6                 Researchers estimate that between 

 7    3.3 million and 10 million children are exposed 

 8    to adult intimate partner violence each year, 

 9    which increases the risk of later violence by 

10    men.

11                 I am proud of the work that we 

12    continue to do in this chamber on this very 

13    important issue, especially in the area of 

14    strengthening funding for this important public 

15    health issue.  We are doing things to expand 

16    access to safe housing and ensuring that 

17    survivors can receive trauma-informed counseling 

18    services, legal advocacy, and court navigation 

19    supports as they work to not only heal their 

20    lives but also to rebuild their lives and those 

21    of their family members with dignity.

22                 But we know there's more work to do 

23    to meet this great need in our communities for 

24    these lifesaving services.  And so I'm honored to 

25    be voting in favor of this resolution.  I hope 


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 1    my colleagues will join me by voting aye.

 2                 Additionally, Mr. President, I rise 

 3    on the occasion of this resolution to welcome 

 4    distinguished guests to our chamber.  

 5                 I am honored that domestic violence 

 6    advocates have joined us today.  Members may have 

 7    seen a number of people walking throughout the 

 8    Capitol today wearing purple; that is most 

 9    certainly a cause for the occasion.  

10                 And I want to take a moment to lift 

11    up all of the work that they do to provide 

12    training, technical assistance for local domestic 

13    violence programs across our state, working with 

14    communities to change our culture into one that 

15    doesn't condone violence, that advocates for 

16    policies to make sure that survivors across our 

17    state are provided with the support they need to 

18    be safe and to ultimately heal.  

19                 And with that, Mr. President, I ask 

20    that you welcome these amazing advocates to our 

21    chamber.  Thank you.

22                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Webb.  

24                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

25    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 


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 1    privileges and courtesies of the house.  

 2                 Please rise and be recognized.

 3                 (Standing ovation.)

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   The question is on 

 5    the resolution.  All those in favor please 

 6    signify by saying aye.

 7                 (Response of "Aye.")

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   Opposed, nay.

 9                 (No response.)

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   The resolution is 

11    adopted.

12                 Senator Gianaris.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

14    Senator Bailey for an introduction.  

15                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Bailey.

16                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.  

18                 The rabbi who gave the opening 

19    invocation was very inspirational, and he spoke 

20    about organ donations.  And organ donations are 

21    done by physicians, by doctors, people who take 

22    the Hippocratic oath and decide that they -- 

23    regardless of race, creed, gender, color, 

24    identity, whoever comes before them, they will 

25    serve them.  They will serve them admirably.  


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 1                 But sometimes people, if you don't 

 2    see what looks like you in the medical field, you 

 3    may not want to go to the doctor.  And the artist 

 4    formerly known as diversity in medicine, because 

 5    of certain things that are happening, now is the 

 6    Associated Medical Schools of New York Scholars 

 7    in Medicine and Science.  

 8                 But it does not lessen the necessity 

 9    for diversity any more.  People in our families 

10    do not go to the doctor because they do not trust 

11    the medical profession.  These scholars are here 

12    to make sure that we not only trust the medical 

13    profession now, but we entrust you to do it into 

14    the future.  The world we leave you is in 

15    better -- we leave you to put the world in 

16    greater hands than it is now.

17                 So I have the honor of introducing 

18    you all to a number of scholars.  And I'm going 

19    to say your name, and I apologize in advance if 

20    and when I mess it up.  But you are not messing 

21    things up, you are making things better.

22                 Alexandra Habibi, from NYU Grossman.  

23                 Sophia -- in the Senate we're going 

24    to hold the applause like we do at the reunion 

25    until everybody's okay.  


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 1                 Sophia Manduca, from NYU.  You may 

 2    stand, absolutely.  

 3                 Gabriella Gomez, from Stony Brook 

 4    University.  

 5                 John Helm, from Stony Brook 

 6    University.  

 7                 Jhessica Chauca, from Touro 

 8    Middletown.  

 9                 Herman Low, from Stony Brook 

10    University.  Somewhere Speaker Heastie is very 

11    happy.  

12                 Stephanie Cano Amaya, from Upstate 

13    Medical University.  

14                 Ashley Mooring, from SUNY Upstate.  

15                 Martha Wojtowycz -- I'm sorry -- 

16    from SUNY Upstate Medical University.  

17                 Kayode Medugbon, SUNY Upstate.  

18                 Mustafa Abdalla, SUNY Upstate.  

19                 Emma Covillon, Upstate Medical 

20    University.  

21                 Saba Solomon, Upstate Medical 

22    University.  

23                 Leah Solomon, SUNY Upstate.  

24                 Nayeem Hussain, SUNY Upstate Medical 

25    University.  


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 1                 Stevens Bontemps, Chima Ezeh, and 

 2    Brooke D. Jones, all from the University of 

 3    Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry.  

 4                 Yara Abdelrahman, from CUNY City 

 5    College of New York.  

 6                 Lelosa Imasuen, from CCNY.  

 7                 Melissa Rojas, from CCNY.  

 8                 Amidala Figueroa, Angelica Vargas, 

 9    and Levi Vazquez, all from Lehman College in the 

10    Boogie-Down Bronx.  You know, God's country.  

11                 Sebastian Cota, from 

12    Columbia University Mailman School of 

13    Public Health.  

14                 Daphne Buitron, from Fordham 

15    University.  

16                 And the program directors:  Sarah 

17    Khalil, Inefta Reid, and Victor Garcia, from NYU, 

18    Stony Brook and New York Medical College.  And 

19    Aaron Glass, program director at SUNY Upstate 

20    Medical.  

21                 Please stand up.

22                 And I just want to -- as I close and 

23    we get on to the rest of business in the session, 

24    I just want you to know that this trip that 

25    you've made is really important.  In the face of 


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 1    people losing healthcare all around this country, 

 2    you are that stopgap.  You not only can but will 

 3    provide diversity in medicine and real 

 4    medicine -- and those necessary organ donations, 

 5    as we led, opened up our session today.

 6                 Everything happens for a reason.  

 7    There was a reason why that was mentioned in 

 8    there.  

 9                 You should be inspired and steady in 

10    the work that you do.  I thank you.  I salute 

11    you.  Hopefully I won't have to see you anytime 

12    soon for any reasons other than to say hello.  

13    But whoever you see will be under incredible 

14    care.  

15                 Mr. President, please, I would like 

16    you to extend all of the cordialities and the 

17    courtesies of this house for these amazing 

18    scholars.

19                 Thank you, Mr. President.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   To our guests, I 

21    welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We extend 

22    to you the privileges and courtesies of the 

23    house.  

24                 You've already risen; you'll now be 

25    recognized.


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 1                 (Standing ovation.)

 2                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

 4    Senator Hinchey for another introduction.

 5                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Hinchey.  

 6                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 Today I am incredibly proud to 

 9    welcome students from the Advocacy Club at the 

10    Mount Academy in Esopus for their annual 

11    Lobby Day.

12                 They've spent the day meeting with 

13    elected officials, learning about the legislative 

14    process, and asking thoughtful questions and 

15    advocating on the issues that matter most to 

16    them.  

17                 These meetings are incredibly 

18    important because we deal with a lot of very 

19    heavy, very serious topics in this chamber.  But 

20    we do it, and especially in this chamber, in the 

21    Senate -- usually -- with deep respect and 

22    understanding for one another.  But learning that 

23    can take a long time, and it may not come 

24    naturally when you care so deeply and 

25    passionately about something.  


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 1                 So being in the room early, having 

 2    conversations, learning about respectful dialogue 

 3    and meeting people where they are is an 

 4    incredibly important gift that the Bruderhof 

 5    offers to their young students in the 

 6    Advocacy Club.  

 7                 These students exemplify the values 

 8    of public service and volunteerism.  They've 

 9    helped build homes with Habitat for Humanity 

10    across our Hudson Valley communities, they've 

11    used their agriscience skills to care for local 

12    athletic fields, they've sewn pillows for 

13    patients at Vassar Hospital in Dutchess County.  

14                 And last summer, several members of 

15    the Advocacy Club traveled to Ukraine to help 

16    lead a summer camp, organizing baseball and 

17    soccer clinics, teaching English, and bringing a 

18    sense of normalcy to kids who have fled the 

19    frontlines of war.  If that doesn't teach you how 

20    to be a good, well-rounded human, I don't know 

21    what will.

22                 Their compassion speaks volumes 

23    about their character and the service-driven 

24    leaders that they are becoming, exemplified in 

25    their meetings today.  


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 1                 With that, I would like to recognize 

 2    several students who have joined us today in this 

 3    chamber.  You can also stand as I read your name.  

 4                 Alfred Wright, Donna Winter, Aliza 

 5    Wipf, Roderick Huleatt, and Sean Huleatt, as well 

 6    as leadership from the Bruderhof Community:  

 7    Johann Huleatt and Christine Mason.  

 8                 Thank you all so much for being 

 9    here, for your participation and being involved 

10    in our state legislative process.  

11                 Mr. President, please give them all 

12    of the courtesies of the chamber and welcome them 

13    to the Senate.  Thank you.

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

15    Senator Hinchey.

16                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

17    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

18    privileges and courtesies of the house.  

19                 Please rise and be recognized.  

20    Thank you.

21                 (Standing ovation.)

22                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's move on, 

24    Mr. President, to previously adopted 

25    Resolution 1558, by Senator Scarcella-Spanton, 


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 1    read its title, and call on Senator 

 2    Scarcella-Spanton.

 3                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

 4    read.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1558, by 

 6    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, mourning the death of 

 7    Margaret D. Williams, legendary vocalist and 

 8    community leader.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator 

10    Scarcella-Spanton.

11                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

12    you, Mr. President.  

13                 It is my honor to stand here as we 

14    memorialize an outstanding member of our 

15    community, my constituent, Ms. Margaret D. 

16    Williams.  

17                 Ms. Williams, of Coney Island, was a 

18    beloved, dedicated community member who has made 

19    an immeasurable impact on not just her neighbors, 

20    but on people miles and decades apart.  Although 

21    she left this world in January of 2026, her 

22    legacy will be felt for years to come.  

23                 Born in North Carolina, Ms. Williams 

24    moved to Brooklyn as a teenager, becoming 

25    actively involved in music programs, nurturing a 


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 1    passion and talent that would define her life.  

 2                 As a young adult in the late 1950s, 

 3    Ms. Williams joined the renowned girl group 

 4    The Cookies, becoming an integral part of one of 

 5    the most influential vocal groups of the doo-wop 

 6    and Brill Building eras.  

 7                 As some of you may remember, 

 8    The Cookies achieved national and international 

 9    success recording and performing songs written by 

10    legendary songwriters such as Carole King and 

11    Gerry Goffin, and collaborating with iconic 

12    artists including Neil Sedaka, Mel Torme, Little 

13    Eva, and many others.  

14                 Some of their hits, including 

15    "Chains" and "Don't Say Nothin'," reached the 

16    Billboard Top 40 charts in the 1960s, with 

17    "Chains" later recorded by The Beatles on their 

18    1963 debut album, further cementing the group's 

19    enduring influence on popular music.  

20                 In recognition of their significant 

21    contributions to American music, The Cookies were 

22    inducted into the Roll & Roll Hall of Fame in 

23    2002.  

24                 Ms. Williams continued to preserve 

25    and celebrate The Cookies' legacy for decades 


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 1    thereafter, performing in concerts throughout the 

 2    United States, Europe, and Spain.  And after 

 3    years of touring, she returned to Coney Island, 

 4    where she remained deeply engaged in the 

 5    community, continuing to sing professionally and 

 6    as a member of the Coney Island Gospel Assembly 

 7    Church.

 8                 Ms. Williams was a dedicated public 

 9    servant, retiring after 33 years of service with 

10    the New York City Department of Health, Prison 

11    Health Services, and she was also an active 

12    member of DC37, Local 1549.

13                 She was a cherished participant and 

14    supporter of the Coney Island History Project, 

15    sharing her personal history and experiences in a 

16    2004 interview and proudly cutting the ribbon to 

17    open the Boardwalk Memory Booth in 2005.  

18                 You could always count on seeing 

19    Ms. Williams at community events like our 

20    Annual Juneteenth Jubilee in Coney Island or 

21    whenever I stopped by Coney Island Gospel 

22    Assembly.  And we will certainly miss hearing her 

23    sing.  

24                 Her life was marked by faith, 

25    service, music and love, and she will be 


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 1    remembered as a trailblazing artist and a devoted 

 2    public servant, a faithful church member, and a 

 3    pillar of the Coney Island community.  

 4                 My deepest condolences are with her 

 5    family and all those who knew and loved her.  And 

 6    as we continue celebrating Black History Month, I 

 7    cannot think of a more fitting time to celebrate 

 8    her legacy and honor her.  

 9                 Thank you.  I proudly vote aye.

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   The resolution was 

11    adopted on February 10th.

12                 Senator Gianaris.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And now, lastly, 

14    Resolution 1630, by Senator Serrano.  Please take 

15    that up, read its title, and recognize 

16    Senator Serrano.  

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

18    read.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1630, by 

20    Senator Serrano, commemorating the 

21    20th Anniversary of Park and Public Lands 

22    Advocacy Day on February 25, 2026.

23                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Serrano.  

24                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.  


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 1                 It's an honor to rise here today to 

 2    talk about Parks Advocacy Day here in Albany.  

 3    This is the 20th Annual Parks Day.  And it really 

 4    is one of the best days of the entire year, 

 5    because we have so many parks advocates from 

 6    throughout the state coming to Albany to talk 

 7    about why parks are so important.  

 8                 Now, one of the things that is so 

 9    amazing about parks is that they sort of 

10    transcend all types of barriers.  They are loved 

11    by everyone because they are so meaningful in 

12    everyone's life.  

13                 During the pandemic, our parks 

14    became our solace, they became our oasis away 

15    from the danger that we were facing.  And they 

16    really showed how important they are.  

17                 And since then we've seen 

18    year-over-year growth in visitorship, 

19    record-breaking visitorship at our state parks 

20    throughout the State of New York, as well as our 

21    public lands, like the Adirondacks and the 

22    Catskills, DEC lands.  All of these are very 

23    important.  

24                 There is also another component 

25    that's so necessary to talk about, is that 


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 1    exposure to nature and green spaces has a 

 2    profound impact on our physical health and mental 

 3    health.  It is really the good medicine that we 

 4    need right now.  In a really crazy world, 

 5    engaging in nature and parks is something we 

 6    should all be doing more of.  

 7                 So, I'm so grateful for all of the 

 8    advocates and folks from throughout the state and 

 9    the commissioners who were with us this morning 

10    at our Parks Advocacy Briefing, and all of the 

11    great things that were done today to help bring 

12    awareness to the fact that we should be 

13    supporting our wonderful parks and green spaces 

14    throughout the State of New York.  

15                 And I'm so thankful for my 

16    colleagues supporting this resolution today.

17                 Thank you.

18                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you.

19                 The question is on the resolution.  

20    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

21                 (Response of "Aye.")

22                 THE PRESIDENT:   Opposed, nay.

23                 (No response.)

24                 THE PRESIDENT:   The resolution is 

25    adopted.


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 1                 Senator Gianaris.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please open 

 3    today's resolutions for cosponsorship.

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   The resolutions are 

 5    open for cosponsorship.  Should you choose not to 

 6    be a cosponsor, please notify the desk.

 7                 Senator Gianaris.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please recognize 

 9    Senator Lanza for an announcement.

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Lanza.

11                 SENATOR LANZA:   There will be an 

12    immediate meeting of the Republican Conference in 

13    the Republican Conference Room.

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Gianaris.  

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

16    we will stand at ease until 4:20.  I believe this 

17    will be a brief conference, and we'll be right 

18    back in 15 minutes.

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Senate will 

20    stand at ease.

21                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

22    at 4:04 p.m.)

23                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

24    4:21 p.m.)

25                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Senate will 


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 1    come to order.

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time, 

 4    Mr. President, let's take up the reading of the 

 5    calendar.

 6                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

 7    read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 57, 

 9    Senate Print 659, by Senator Gianaris, an act to 

10    amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

11                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

12    section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

18    results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 57, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, 

22    Helming, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco 

23    and Walczyk.

24                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

25                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.


                                                               953

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    101, Senate Print 3179A, by Senator Sanders, an 

 3    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 5    section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect two years after it shall 

 8    have become a law.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

12    results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 101, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Lanza, 

16    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk 

17    and Weber.

18                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 12.

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    193, Senate Print 4424A, by Senator Ramos, an act 

22    to amend the Labor Law.

23                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

24    section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 


                                                               954

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Ramos to 

 5    explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 You know, there's some really bad 

 9    bosses out there who have been hiding clauses in 

10    job applications and on-boarding paperwork that 

11    forces workers to give up their legal rights 

12    without the worker actually even realizing it.  

13                 Workers have been facing 

14    discrimination, harassment, and even wage theft, 

15    thinking that when they're told that they've 

16    waited too long to sue because of deadlines that 

17    are buried in the paperwork that they never 

18    knowingly agreed to.

19                 And these clauses have historically 

20    discouraged workers from coming forward and have 

21    allowed stolen wages to go unrecovered and given 

22    bad actors an unfair advantage over honest 

23    employers.  We want to keep the good guys in 

24    business.

25                 So this is the fix.  This is the 


                                                               955

 1    Anti Waiver of Employment Rights Act.  And it 

 2    makes clear that employers cannot force workers 

 3    to sign away their protections under New York 

 4    labor and the Human Rights Law.  Rights cannot be 

 5    waived in applications, rights can't be waived in 

 6    on-boarding forms, rights cannot be waived in 

 7    hidden contract language.

 8                 This law does not create new rights, 

 9    to be clear, but it does protect the rights that 

10    workers already have.  It's going to restore 

11    balance in the workplace.  It ensures 

12    accountability.  And it supports employers who 

13    play by the rules.  

14                 It's my hope that the Assembly also 

15    passes this bill so that we can put it on the 

16    Governor's desk for her signature, so that we can 

17    make New York an even better place for workers to 

18    stay here.  I vote aye.

19                 Thank you, Mr. President.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Ramos to be 

21    recorded in the affirmative.

22                 Announce the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 193, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Borrello, Chan, Helming, Lanza, 


                                                               956

 1    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco 

 2    and Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    207, Senate Print 6227, by Senator Martinez, an 

 7    act to amend the Education Law.

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 9    section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the first of July.

12                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

15    results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    233, Senate Print 1461, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

20    act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

21    of New York.

22                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

23    section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               957

 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

 4    results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 233, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 8    Chan, Gallivan, Helming, Martins, Mattera, 

 9    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

10    Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and 

11    Weber.

12                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 20.

13                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    234, Senate Print 3406, by Senator Comrie, an act 

16    to amend the Executive Law.

17                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

18                 THE PRESIDENT:   Lay it aside.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    261, Senate Print 4408, by Senator May, an act to 

21    amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

23    the day.

24                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill will be 

25    laid aside for the day.


                                                               958

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    307, Senate Print 78, by Senator Liu, an act to 

 3    amend the Education Law.

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 5    section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 8    shall have become a law.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

12    results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    318, Senate Print 6273A, by Senator Bailey, an 

17    act authorizing and directing the Commissioner of 

18    Education to conduct a study on the number of 

19    children who are caregivers.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

21    section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               959

 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

 2    results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

 4                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    331, Senate Print 2611, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 7    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 9    section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

15    results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 331, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Bynoe, Krueger, Martinez and May.

19                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 4.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    337, Senate Print 1130, by Senator May, an act to 

23    amend the Executive Law.

24                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

25    section.


                                                               960

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

 6    results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 337, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

10    Chan, Gallivan, Lanza, Mattera, Murray, Palumbo, 

11    Rhoads, Ryan, Stec, Tedisco and Walczyk.

12                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 14.

13                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    342, Senate Print 2447, by Senator Mayer, an act 

16    to amend the Executive Law.

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

18    section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

24    results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               961

 1    Calendar 342, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Helming, Oberacker, 

 3    O'Mara, Ortt, Stec and Walczyk.

 4                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 8.

 5                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    344, Senate Print 3261, by Senator Cooney, an act 

 8    to amend the Tax Law.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

10    section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

16    results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 344, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

20    Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, Bynoe, Murray, 

21    O'Mara, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weber.  

22                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 14.

23                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    346, Senate Print 6181, by Senator Parker, an act 


                                                               962

 1    to amend the Cannabis Law.

 2                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 3    section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

 9    results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 346, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Gallivan, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, 

14    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, 

15    Tedisco and Walczyk.

16                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 16.

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

18                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

19    reading of today's calendar.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we move on 

21    to the controversial calendar, please.

22                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

23    ring the bell.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               963

 1    234, Senate Print 3406, by Senator Comrie, an act 

 2    to amend the Executive Law.

 3                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Lanza, why 

 4    do you rise?

 5                 SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I 

 6    believe I believe there's an amendment at the 

 7    desk.  I waive the reading of that amendment and 

 8    ask that you recognize Senator Walczyk.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Lanza.  

11                 Upon review of the amendment, in 

12    accordance with Rule 6, Section 4B, I rule it 

13    nongermane and out of order.

14                 SENATOR LANZA:   Accordingly, 

15    Mr. President, I appeal the ruling of the chair 

16    and ask that Senator Walczyk be heard on that 

17    appeal.

18                 THE PRESIDENT:   The appeal has been 

19    made and recognized.  

20                 Senator Walczyk may be heard.

21                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you for the 

22    opportunity, Mr. President.  And maybe I can 

23    convince some colleagues to overrule the chair 

24    here.

25                 This amendment is indeed germane to 


                                                               964

 1    the bill-in-chief, because the bill-in-chief 

 2    deals with the State Uniform Fire Prevention and 

 3    Building Code and the amendment deals with the 

 4    State Energy Code, both affecting the price of 

 5    building in New York State.

 6                 This amendment, modeled from 

 7    legislation sponsored by Senator Mario Mattera, 

 8    would repeal the costly All-Electric Buildings 

 9    mandate and would allow building developers to 

10    use the 2020 Energy Code instead of the more 

11    costly and newly enacted 2025 Energy Code.

12                 As everyone knows, the All-Electric 

13    Building mandate is currently tied up in the 

14    courts.  The Governor agreed to pause 

15    implementation of the costly mandate temporarily 

16    while the case plays out in court, no doubt 

17    because this is 2026 and it's an election year.  

18                 Developers have estimated that the 

19    All-Electric Building mandate will increase the 

20    cost of a typical single-family home in New York 

21    by $20,000 at the low end; some say much higher 

22    than that.

23                 On top of the additional $20,000 in 

24    cost to comply with the All-Electric Building 

25    mandate, the 2025 Energy Code will increase the 


                                                               965

 1    cost of construction for a single-family home in 

 2    New York by $7400.  And that's NYSERDA's cost 

 3    analysis -- again, on the low end.

 4                 I think everyone in this chamber 

 5    would agree that New York State is in the middle 

 6    of a housing affordability crisis.  I've heard it 

 7    from both sides of the aisle.  Builders can't 

 8    sell overpriced houses that people don't want to 

 9    buy in the first place.  

10                 It already costs between $200 and 

11    $350 per square foot to build a new home in this 

12    state, way above the national average.  The 2025 

13    Energy Code, which includes the All-Electric 

14    Buildings mandate, would only increase the cost 

15    of building homes, further putting the dream of 

16    homeownership out of reach for so many 

17    New Yorkers.

18                 This amendment that I offer up today 

19    allows this chamber to take a real and meaningful 

20    step towards lowering the cost of homes in this 

21    state.

22                 Builders need to know that we're 

23    providing regulatory certainty and cost-effective 

24    solutions.  The average first-time homebuyer is 

25    now over 40 years old.  A CNY builder recently 


                                                               966

 1    told me at a roundtable that new homes in 

 2    New York are a luxury item.

 3                 If that's true, you've made too many 

 4    mistakes in this chamber and I ask that you join 

 5    me in fixing just a couple of those egregious 

 6    mistakes that have been made recently.  Vote to 

 7    overrule the chair, pass this amendment, and 

 8    please allow New Yorkers to have the dream of 

 9    owning an affordable home in New York State in 

10    the future.

11                 Thank you, Mr. President.

12                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, Senator.

13                 I want to remind the house that the 

14    vote is on the procedures of the house and the 

15    ruling of the chair.

16                 Those in favor of overruling the 

17    chair, signify by saying aye.

18                 (Response of "Aye.")

19                 SENATOR LANZA:   Show of hands.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   A show of hands has 

21    been requested and so ordered.

22                 Announce the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 20.

24                 THE PRESIDENT:   The ruling of the 

25    chair stands, and the bill-in-chief is before the 


                                                               967

 1    house.

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We've agreed to 

 4    restore this bill to the noncontroversial 

 5    calendar.

 6                 THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last 

 7    section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the first of January.

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

13    results.  

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 234, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Lanza, 

17    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco and 

18    Walczyk.

19                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

20                 THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is passed.

21                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

22    reading of the controversial calendar.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

24    at this time there's a privileged resolution at 

25    the desk.  Let's take that up, please, read its 


                                                               968

 1    title, and recognize first Senator Mayer on that 

 2    resolution.

 3                 THE PRESIDENT:   The Secretary will 

 4    read.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1637, by 

 6    Senator Mayer, Concurrent Resolution of the 

 7    Senate and Assembly providing for the election of 

 8    two Regents of the University of the State of 

 9    New York.

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Mayer on 

11    the resolution.

12                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.

14                 It's my honor again to rise in 

15    support of this Concurrent Resolution of the 

16    Senate and Assembly to appoint and reappoint 

17    members to the Board of Regents.  

18                 For everyone's edification -- not 

19    those here, because I think they know about the 

20    Board of Regents, but people frequently confuse 

21    the Regents exam with the Board of Regents.  And 

22    that's a very understandable confusion.  

23                 But people should understand that 

24    the Board of Regents are people appointed by the 

25    Senate and Assembly jointly to help drive 


                                                               969

 1    educational policy in New York State, not only 

 2    through kindergarten through 12th grade, but for 

 3    higher ed, for the professions, and for many 

 4    other aspects of regulated life dealing with 

 5    educational issues.

 6                 The Board of Regents meets 

 7    regularly.  They consider issues of highest 

 8    importance to those of us who care about 

 9    education.  And today we are lucky and very 

10    fortunate to be appointing and reappointing two 

11    distinguished members.  

12                 First I want to say, from the 

13    Fifth Judicial District, Patrick Mannion, to be 

14    reappointed to the Board of Regents.  

15                 And I would just say, as someone who 

16    heard his testimony and listened in the 

17    interviews the first time and then as he came 

18    back for reappointment, what was striking is that 

19    Mr. Mannion, who is not someone who came from 

20    sort of the educational world, made a commitment 

21    at that time that he was going to visit schools, 

22    learn about education in his community, and 

23    become a true advocate for the schools and the 

24    students of the Fifth Judicial District.  

25                 And he has actually done so.  It was 


                                                               970

 1    extremely impressive to hear in the interviews 

 2    that Senator Stavisky and I sat through with many 

 3    of our colleagues, to hear how much interest he 

 4    took in the schools and the issues that were 

 5    before the Board of Regents.  

 6                 He did everything one could ask of 

 7    someone who was not entirely versed in education 

 8    to do, and I'm very pleased to have him 

 9    reappointed to the Fifth Judicial District seat.  

10                 And then for the at-large seat, we 

11    are appointing today Janice Weinman Shorenstein, 

12    who is joining us today in the gallery.  

13                 And Ms. Shorenstein has been a 

14    transformational leader in the educational space, 

15    currently running a program called Education 

16    Through Music, which brings music and art to 

17    students in the New York City public schools.  

18                 But she has a longtime history of 

19    participation in schools in the New York City 

20    community.  She has been -- was the president of 

21    what's called Kids, a global not-for-profit 

22    organization that distributed new product to 

23    children and families in need throughout the 

24    United States and throughout the world.  

25                 She's worked in corporate affairs 


                                                               971

 1    for Mount Sinai and for other major 

 2    not-for-profit institutions in New York.  And she 

 3    truly will bring her wealth of experience and her 

 4    perspective and her intimate knowledge of the 

 5    New York City public school community to the 

 6    Board of Regents where, as the largest school 

 7    district in the country, we need her expertise, 

 8    her enthusiasm, and her willingness to 

 9    participate.

10                 Again, people who join the Board of 

11    Regents do so and put in not only their time and 

12    their energy but all of their intellect and 

13    energy into improving our educational system.  

14    We're very fortunate to have Patrick Mannion and 

15    Janice Weinman Shorenstein be elected to and 

16    joining the Board of Regents.

17                 I vote aye and encourage all my 

18    colleagues to do the same.

19                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

20    Senator Mayer.

21                 Senator Stavisky on the resolution.

22                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

23    Mr. President.  On the resolution.

24                 As Senator Mayer indicated, the 

25    selection of the Regents, and their mission, is 


                                                               972

 1    unique and has a long tradition of service.  In 

 2    fact, the origins go back 242 years.  

 3                 And if you understand that this body 

 4    and the Assembly have met for 242 years, and each 

 5    year, or almost every year, there's a vacancy and 

 6    they go through this process of selecting 

 7    Regents.

 8                 Regents in New York State have a 

 9    unique mission.  Their selection is very 

10    different.  They set the education policy, and 

11    they also select the Commissioner of Education.  

12    In some states they -- the commissioner of 

13    education is elected in an election; in other 

14    states, the governor appoints the commissioner.  

15                 But New York State is unique.  The 

16    Regents choose the commissioner.

17                 And the other point I want to make 

18    is that they are joining a long, long list of 

19    people who have gone through this process and 

20    served as a Regent.

21                 And in fact two of the first 

22    Regents -- one was Assemblymember Alexander 

23    Hamilton, and John Jay, the first chief judge.  

24    And Teddy Roosevelt -- bipartisan -- he served as 

25    a Regent.


                                                               973

 1                 So I welcome the selection, and I 

 2    congratulate Mr. Mannion and Ms. Shorenstein.  

 3    And they should understand that they are joining 

 4    a very select group.  And I know that their 

 5    service will be commendable and just fitting in 

 6    with the tradition set by Alexander Hamilton.  

 7    They're going to be in the room where it happens.

 8                 Thank you.

 9                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Stavisky.

11                 Senator Borrello on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.

14                 I think Senator Stavisky outlined 

15    the importance of this role very well.  Which is 

16    why, as an employer myself, someone who was a 

17    private-sector employee and a county executive, 

18    who has hired and fired literally hundreds of 

19    people in my career, I've never done so in 

20    10 minutes or less.  Which is what we've been 

21    asked to do here today.  

22                 Literally we got this resume -- and 

23    that's all we have, is a resume -- to make a 

24    decision on folks that are going to have an 

25    impact on every single child that is educated in 


                                                               974

 1    New York State.

 2                 I can't in good conscience do that 

 3    with such little time.  And I would encourage my 

 4    colleagues, who -- other than, I'm sure, the very 

 5    capable Senators who reviewed and interviewed 

 6    them -- have not had the chance to vet these 

 7    folks properly for one of the most important jobs 

 8    in New York State.  

 9                 So I'll be voting no.  And those of 

10    you that weren't in the interviews I would 

11    suggest vote no as well.  Nothing against the 

12    folks that are here, but due diligence is very 

13    important.  So I'll be voting no.

14                 Thank you.

15                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, 

16    Senator Borrello.  

17                 Senator Murray on the resolution.

18                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.  

20                 Yes, I know, a broken record.  Here 

21    we go again.  He's getting up and complaining 

22    about the system.  

23                 But think about it.  We voted on 

24    multiple resolutions today individually.  All on 

25    important, very important issues.  We took up 


                                                               975

 1    14 individual bills.  We didn't do them as a 

 2    bunch.  Why?  Because each one is important on 

 3    its own merits.  

 4                 You heard the Senators explain why 

 5    it's so important, the job that they do, the 

 6    effect that they will have on this state, on our 

 7    future, because they'll have an effect on 

 8    literally millions of New York children.

 9                 And yet instead of voting on them 

10    each individually, it's up or down, both of them 

11    yes or no.  

12                 Well, what if we have a problem with 

13    one of them?  What if we don't think one is 

14    stellar?  Oh, well, let the kids suffer.  Oh, 

15    well.  

16                 You're right, we're in the room 

17    where it happens.  But it should be happening 

18    properly.  We should be doing it the right way.  

19    If they're that good, let's vote on them 

20    individually on their own merit.  

21                 For that reason, I'll be a no.

22                 Thank you.

23                 THE PRESIDENT:   Thank you.

24                 There's a substitution at the desk.

25                 The Secretary will read.


                                                               976

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Senators Mayer and 

 2    Stavisky move to substitute Senate Concurrent 

 3    Resolution 1637 for the identical Assembly 

 4    Resolution, 978.

 5                 THE PRESIDENT:   The substitution is 

 6    so ordered.

 7                 The Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Assembly Resolution 

 9    978, by Assemblymember Benedetto, Concurrent 

10    Resolution of the Senate and Assembly providing 

11    for the election of two Regents of the University 

12    of the State of New York.

13                 THE PRESIDENT:   The question is on 

14    the resolution.  

15                 The Secretary will call the roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 THE PRESIDENT:   Announce the 

18    results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to the 

20    resolution, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Brisport, 

22    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Gonzalez, 

23    Lanza, Murray, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Salazar, 

24    Stec and Walczyk.

25                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 15.


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 1                 THE PRESIDENT:   The resolution is 

 2    adopted.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 5    would like to remind the members of the 

 6    Majority Conference that we will be having a 

 7    conference immediately after session.  

 8                 And with that, is there any further 

 9    business at the desk?

10                 THE PRESIDENT:   There is no further 

11    business at the desk.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

13    adjourn until tomorrow, Thursday, February 26th, 

14    at 11:00 a.m.

15                 THE PRESIDENT:   On motion, the 

16    Senate stands adjourned until Thursday, 

17    February 26th, at 11:00 a.m.

18                 (Whereupon, at 4:48 p.m., the Senate 

19    adjourned.)

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