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11:15 AMRegular SessionALBANY, NEW YORK
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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   March 19, 2026

11                     11:15 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR SHELLEY B. MAYER, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

 3    will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Major 

 9    Brittany Wooten, Chaplain of the United States 

10    Corps of Cadets Regimental, will deliver today's 

11    invocation.

12                 Major?  

13                 CHAPLAIN MAJOR WOOTEN:   What an 

14    honor and a joy it is to be here.  

15                 Would you please bow your heads and 

16    pray according to your faith tradition, as I pray 

17    according to mine.

18                 God of all Creation, I'm in awe and 

19    humbled to stand before You in such a place as 

20    this, for we know that You have and continue to 

21    use this place to give voice to all Your 

22    creation.  

23                 We give You thanks and praise for 

24    the leaders gathered here today, and for those in 

25    days gone by and those that will come in the days 


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 1    of the future.  

 2                 On this 74th Annual West Point Day, 

 3    we celebrate and stand together with great 

 4    courage, for we know You are still working.  May 

 5    the actions taken here today, the conversations 

 6    shared, and the cadets that are honored be 

 7    surrounded by Your blessings.  

 8                 And I end closing words with our 

 9    West Point Cadet Prayer:  Help us maintain the 

10    honor of the Corps untarnished, unsullied, and to 

11    show forth in our lives the ideals of West Point 

12    in doing our duty to Thee and to our country.  

13                 All of which we ask in the name of 

14    the great Friend and Master of all.  

15                 Amen.

16                 (Response of "Amen.")

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Reading of 

18    the Journal.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, 

20    Wednesday, March 18, 2026, the Senate met 

21    pursuant to adjournment.  The Journal of Tuesday, 

22    March 17, 2026, was read and approved.  On 

23    motion, the Senate adjourned.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Without 

25    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.


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 1                 Presentation of petitions.

 2                 Messages from the Assembly.

 3                 Messages from the Governor.

 4                 Reports of standing committees.

 5                 Reports of select committees.

 6                 Communications and reports from 

 7    state officers.

 8                 Motions and resolutions.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good morning, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 There is a previously adopted 

13    resolution, 1749, at the desk.  Please take that 

14    up -- it's by Senator Skoufis -- read its title, 

15    and call on Majority Leader Stewart-Cousins 

16    initially on that resolution, please.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    Secretary will read.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1749, by 

20    Senator Skoufis, memorializing Governor Kathy 

21    Hochul to proclaim March 19, 2026, as West Point 

22    Day in New York State.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Majority 

24    Leader Stewart-Cousins on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank you 


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 1    so much, Madam President.  

 2                 And we are very, very excited.  This 

 3    is a day that we all look forward to.  

 4                 I want to thank you, Major Wooten, 

 5    for your prayer and for blessing us today and 

 6    obviously reminding us not only of the cadets' 

 7    prayer, but it is also appropriate for this space 

 8    as well.  

 9                 And I'm really happy to see all of 

10    you.  I just met Commander Stuewe, we had an 

11    opportunity to meet.  I know that also 

12    Colonel Christina Fanitzi is here.  Hi, 

13    Christina.  I understand she was essential in 

14    making sure one of my cadets got here, so thank 

15    you for that.

16                 And SFC Raymond Barnett as well, 

17    hello.  Thank you so much.  

18                 I also want to thank Senator Skoufis 

19    for always bringing this -- I know you represent 

20    West Point, and always bringing forward this 

21    resolution.  

22                 And I also want to thank our chair 

23    of Veterans, Homeland Security and Military 

24    Affairs, Jessica Scarcella-Spanton who's such a 

25    strong advocate for veterans and their families.


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 1                 It is such an honor for us to 

 2    commemorate West Point Day, celebrating the 

 3    United States Military Academy, an extraordinary 

 4    institution that New York is proud to call its 

 5    own.

 6                 You cadets won't know this, but this 

 7    is the 74th year that we have celebrated 

 8    West Point Day in this Senate.  We come together, 

 9    we recognize your excellence, your dedication, 

10    and the valor that you bring with you when you go 

11    to study in West Point.  

12                 I also want to recognize one of my 

13    constituents -- as I said, I'm very proud that I 

14    have Cadet Kade Riddle -- stand up, Cadet -- of 

15    Sleepy Hollow, New York.  

16                 Cadet Riddle is currently studying 

17    systems engineering at the United States 

18    Military Academy, an especially fitting path, as 

19    West Point is widely considered the birthplace of 

20    engineering education in our country.  

21                 Many of its early graduates went on 

22    to build critical infrastructure across our 

23    nation, including landmarks like the Washington 

24    Monument.  

25                 Cadet Riddle hopes to branch into 


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 1    infantry, with aspirations of serving at 

 2    Fort Drum -- which means you'll be back here 

 3    again because we have Fort Drum Day -- 

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   -- and 

 6    attending Ranger School in the future.  

 7                 I'm incredibly proud to welcome you 

 8    to the Senate floor today and hope to see you 

 9    back in the district.  Thank you so much for 

10    being here, Cadet Riddle.  

11                 You're not going to be alone; 

12    there's members who are going to ask their other 

13    cadets.  So if you will get ready, he's the first 

14    one that I ask to stand.  But you will all be 

15    standing when your Senators introduce you.  

16                 So thank you, Cadet Riddle.

17                 The history of the United States 

18    Military Academy stretches back more than 

19    two centuries.  Established in 1802 by 

20    President Thomas Jefferson, it was the first 

21    military academy in our nation.  

22                 Even before its opening, the West 

23    Point region played a role in our country's 

24    military history dating back all the way to 1779, 

25    when it served as the site of President George 


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 1    Washington's strategic fortress and headquarters.  

 2                 Over the years, more than 

 3    80,000 graduates have come through West Point's 

 4    halls, many of whom went on to shape our nation's 

 5    history:  President Ulysses S. Grant, 

 6    President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Generals William 

 7    Sherman, John Jay Pershing, Douglas MacArthur, 

 8    Omar Bradley, Andrea Hollen, who was part of the 

 9    first class of cadets to include women.

10                 When I look at the cadets today, I 

11    see the same honor and integrity that's defined 

12    West Point graduates for generations.  You are 

13    our nation's class of military leaders.  The 

14    example you set will inspire other young people 

15    to answer the call to serve.

16                 Growing up in a military family, I 

17    saw firsthand what sacrifice and service to our 

18    country truly means.  My dad was a World War II 

19    veteran, my brother a Vietnam veteran.  And I 

20    know what it takes to fight for our country.

21                 No matter how difficult and 

22    daunting, it is something that you do with your 

23    heart and with your soul.  And it's something 

24    that I and so many of us here, including the 

25    veterans here, do not take for granted.


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 1                 I know that sense of duty is 

 2    reflected in every one of you.  And it's 

 3    important for us to remember that behind every 

 4    uniform is a person, someone just like you and 

 5    me, who has taken a brave step towards a path of 

 6    service in a way that many would not.  Each cadet 

 7    here today carries forward the legacy of those 

 8    who made that choice before them.  

 9                 We've all seen the headlines.  We 

10    know that trying times are ahead for the whole 

11    country and that cadets here today will be among 

12    those called to meet that moment with courage.  

13    Please know that your commitment to protecting 

14    our nation will always be honored here in 

15    New York and in this chamber.  

16                 And I pledge that this Senate will 

17    continue to support and advocate for you and to 

18    assure that our gratitude is reflected not just 

19    in words, but in actions.

20                 We know, again, that this call to 

21    service at this moment is different from any 

22    other moment.  And I'm so happy that you have the 

23    foundation that West Point brings you to make the 

24    right decisions at the right time on behalf of 

25    all you command on behalf of our nation.  


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 1                 Our prayers go with you.  Thank you 

 2    so much for being our present and our future.  

 3    Thank you for your integrity, your bravery, your 

 4    courage, and your commitment to us.

 5                 Thank you, Madam President.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 7    Majority Leader.

 8                 Senator Skoufis on the resolution.

 9                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

10    much, Madam President.  

11                 Before I go on the resolution, I'd 

12    like to first acknowledge the West Point 

13    leadership team and support personnel that are 

14    here, starting with Colonel Daniel Stuewe, the 

15    West Point garrison commander.  Thank you very 

16    much for honoring us with your presence.  

17                 We heard from Major Brittany Wooten.  

18    Thank you for the beautiful invocation earlier.  

19                 We're also joined by 

20    Colonel Christina Fanitzi, regimental training 

21    officer; Sergeant First Class Raymond Barnett, 

22    tactical noncommissioned officer; Captain William 

23    Lutz, Corps of Cadets, Brigade Tactical 

24    Department; Master Sergeant Donald Seidle, USMA 

25    Operations; Cadet Jay Suryanarayan, who is the 


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 1    First Captain, Corps of Cadets.  

 2                 And then support personnel, we have 

 3    Mr. Matthew Hintz, USMA Public Affairs, 

 4    Community Engagement; Mr. Eric Bartelt, 

 5    USMA Public Affairs, Command Information; and 

 6    Ms. Jenna Cisneros, who's the Garrison 

 7    Public Affairs Officer.  

 8                 I also want to thank the Secretary's 

 9    office, the floor team, and certainly my staff, 

10    who put in a lot of effort to make West Point Day 

11    possible today.

12                 Now, on the resolution, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 First I want to extend my gratitude 

15    to the Majority Leader, not only for her remarks 

16    just a moment ago, but -- and not only for 

17    continuing West Point Day since taking over as 

18    Majority Leader eight years ago, but in embracing 

19    this very special day -- not just continuing it, 

20    but embracing this very special day.  And we 

21    wouldn't be able to do any of this without that 

22    embracing.  So thank you, Madam Leader.

23                 And it is truly my honor to rise 

24    today as Senator from the 42nd District, home to 

25    the United States Military Academy at West Point, 


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 1    on this 74th anniversary, as was mentioned a 

 2    moment ago, of West Point Day, a cherished 

 3    tradition in the halls of our Capitol.  It's a 

 4    morning of great pride to myself and my 

 5    colleagues, as well as Senators past, including 

 6    my predecessor, Colonel Bill Larkin.  

 7                 This year we celebrate the 

 8    250th anniversary of our country, so this 

 9    West Point Day is particularly meaningful, as the 

10    garrison was so crucial in our country's 

11    successful campaign for freedom two-and-a-half 

12    centuries ago.

13                 The Hudson River was a military 

14    highway, transporting troops, artillery, food and 

15    information for the colonists.  The British knew 

16    if they could seize the river, they could sever 

17    New England from the rest of the rebellious 

18    colonies and end the war for good.  

19                 But in spite of the concerted 

20    efforts by the well-trained and well-armed 

21    British troops, West Point was never captured, 

22    standing as a symbol of American courage and 

23    fidelity.

24                 That was West Point and our 

25    country's past.  The future sits before us in the 


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 1    front of this chamber.  These cadets prepared for 

 2    years to attend West Point, the best of the best.  

 3    They have chosen to dedicate their lives upon 

 4    graduation to serve this country, and for that we 

 5    are all truly grateful.

 6                 Two hundred and fifty years ago, a 

 7    ragtag band of colonists, exhausted but 

 8    victorious, began a great experiment, a genuinely 

 9    revolutionary process that produced the first 

10    successful modern democratic republic.  They 

11    would be proud to see these young women and men 

12    before us all these years later, ready to defend 

13    what they fought so hard to build.

14                 To our cadets, thank you for joining 

15    us today and for your dedication.  We are humbled 

16    by your steadfast allegiance to our country 

17    during this unsteady moment in our history.  

18                 And thank you, Madam President, for 

19    the opportunity to speak on the resolution again.  

20                 And lastly, no matter the 

21    circumstance, there is one thing I can say with 

22    absolute confidence each year:  Go Army, 

23    Beat Navy!  

24                 Thank you.

25                 (Laughter.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 2    Senator Skoufis.

 3                 Minority Leader Ortt on the 

 4    resolution.

 5                 SENATOR ORTT:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam Speaker -- Madam President.  I appreciate 

 7    the opportunity to say a few words.  

 8                 I want to welcome the cadets to the 

 9    New York State Senate chamber.  It is great to 

10    see you.  It is great to be here every year on 

11    this day.  

12                 I certainly want to thank my 

13    colleague Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, as well 

14    as Senator Skoufis, for their words and for their 

15    support of not only this resolution but of this 

16    day.  

17                 You heard Senator Skoufis talk about 

18    really a continuation of a very long tradition.  

19    I remember when I first was elected, former 

20    State Senator -- God rest his soul -- 

21    Colonel Bill Larkin, this was his, by far -- this 

22    was Christmas, New Year's and Thanksgiving all 

23    wrapped into one for him.  This was -- this was 

24    his day.  

25                 And I know Senator Skoufis, as 


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 1    someone who represents West Point, probably feels 

 2    the same way -- an immense sense of pride that we 

 3    all should feel, and I think all feel, to have 

 4    the oldest service academy, at the very founding 

 5    of the country, here in the State of New York.

 6                 And to look upon young Americans, 

 7    young New Yorkers, who have all kinds of options 

 8    before them.  Because you do.  You could have 

 9    gone to any school, and you chose West Point.  

10    You chose service to this country.  

11                 And I would say -- and there's 

12    people in this room who have done the same -- 

13    maybe not through West Point, but have certainly 

14    worn the uniform that you aspire to wear.

15                 I do want to recognize veterans in 

16    the Republican Conference.  

17                 I know we have Senator Ashby, our 

18    ranker on Veterans and Military Affairs, who you 

19    will hear from, Army veteran.

20                 We have Senator Mark Walczyk, who 

21    still serves in the Army Reserves.  

22                 Senator Dan Stec -- now, he was in 

23    another branch, so I don't want to belabor that.  

24                 (Laughter.)

25                 SENATOR ORTT:   But you'll hear from 


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 1    him, because he has a cadet.  So, you know, we 

 2    all have to endure it.  

 3                 (Laughter.)

 4                 SENATOR ORTT:   And then you'll 

 5    also -- we have Senator Steve Chan, who was a 

 6    Marine.  

 7                 And I know Senator Sanders also 

 8    served in the Marine Corps, in the Democratic 

 9    Conference.

10                 But all of you I think certainly 

11    understand why West Point.  Right?  It was 

12    actually founded, of course, by President 

13    Thomas Jefferson, as you heard, as you all no 

14    doubt know.  Which was ironic, because for much 

15    of his political career he was very much opposed 

16    to a standing army.  

17                 And yet he, under his presidency, 

18    created the Military Academy at West Point.  Why?  

19    Because in practicality, he recognized that a 

20    republic, and all that it represented, had to be 

21    defended by somebody.  And it had to have a 

22    professional officer corps.  

23                 Now, I don't know what all of you 

24    are going to go do.  Maybe you'll do four years 

25    and out.  You'll be leaders in business, or 


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 1    you'll be leaders in politics, you'll be leaders 

 2    in not-for-profit or tech.  

 3                 But maybe somewhere amongst you or 

 4    amongst your classmates is the next Joint Chiefs 

 5    of Staff, chairman of the Joint Chiefs.  Or maybe 

 6    it's the next three-star general.  Someone who's 

 7    going to be making major strategic decisions 

 8    advising the leaders of this country on issues of 

 9    the highest order -- life and death, war and 

10    peace, national security.  

11                 That is why West Point exists, at 

12    its core.  If you want to join the military, you 

13    can do that without having to go through 

14    West Point.  You've chosen a different path, a 

15    much more challenging path, a path that speaks to 

16    your character, to how you view duty, honor and 

17    country.

18                 And I would also remind everyone, 

19    including the cadets, every generation has 

20    challenges.  Every generation, if you look back.  

21    And I wish it wasn't the case.  But I think it 

22    was Plato who said only the dead have seen the 

23    end of war.  

24                 Every generation has been called to 

25    produce members to defend this country and to 


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 1    potentially put their lives and command the lives 

 2    of others in dangerous times.

 3                 I think sometimes as Americans we 

 4    think, here, the rest of the world is like this, 

 5    and it's not.  It's a dangerous place.  And thank 

 6    God we have you, young people who continue to 

 7    raise their hand.  We continue to produce young, 

 8    bright Americans, New Yorkers, who are willing to 

 9    put their lives on the line and lay aside all the 

10    promise and all the opportunities and all the 

11    hopes that you have, to defend this country and 

12    to lead others.  

13                 Because you will all be leaders of 

14    other men and women in uniform, and that is a 

15    sacred duty.  To conduct a mission, to complete 

16    the mission successfully and, if possible, get 

17    those people back home safely to their families.  

18    I can't think of anything higher or more 

19    important at this time or any other time.

20                 And when you graduate, when you wear 

21    that -- the different uniform and you have that 

22    flag on your shoulder, I want you to know that we 

23    are as proud of you as you are of that flag and 

24    of wearing that uniform.

25                 So thank you very much for your 


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 1    service.  Thank you very much for being here 

 2    today.  

 3                 Again, to all my colleagues, thank 

 4    you very much for your support of this 

 5    resolution.  

 6                 God bless America.  And absolutely, 

 7    Go Army, Beat Navy!

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Ortt.

11                 It is now my honor to introduce 

12    Colonel Daniel R. Stuewe, commander of the 

13    United States Army Garrison at West Point.

14                 COMMANDER STUEWE:   Majority Leader 

15    Stewart-Cousins, Minority Leader Ortt, members of 

16    this distinguished Senate, good morning and thank 

17    you for welcoming us here today.

18                 On behalf of Lieutenant General 

19    Gilland and Sergeant Major Barretto, the 

20    soldiers, the cadets, the civilians and families 

21    of the United States Military Academy and U.S. 

22    Army Garrison West Point, thank you for this 

23    recognition and for your continued partnership.  

24                 Majority Leader Stewart-Cousins, 

25    ma'am, thank you for the opportunity to address 


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 1    this chamber today.  

 2                 Senator Skoufis, sir, thank you for 

 3    hosting us today and for your steadfast support 

 4    to the West Point community.

 5                 And Senator Scarcella-Spanton, 

 6    ma'am, thank you for your leadership and all you 

 7    do on behalf of New York's veterans and 

 8    servicemembers.

 9                 Ladies and gentlemen, since 1952 the 

10    State of New York has formally recognized 

11    West Point's contributions to our state and to 

12    our nation.  That enduring tradition speaks to 

13    something deeper than ceremony.  It reflects a 

14    bond, one rooted in shared history, shared 

15    responsibility, and shared commitment to service.

16                 This year that history carries even 

17    greater weight.  The Army recently celebrated its 

18    250th birthday, a milestone few institutions in 

19    the world can claim.  It was in June of 1775 that 

20    the Continental Congress established the American 

21    Army.  Just three years later, in the winter of 

22    1778, West Point became the strategic anchor of 

23    that army.  

24                 General George Washington 

25    understood the significance of the Hudson River 


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 1    Valley.  He called West Point the most important 

 2    post in America.  From those rocky heights above 

 3    the river, soldiers built fortifications and 

 4    placed artillery and stretched a massive iron 

 5    chain across the Hudson to prevent British 

 6    warships from dividing the colonies.

 7                 West Point was not simply a 

 8    garrison, it was a decisive stand for the 

 9    survival of a young republic.  And for 250 years 

10    the United States Army has stood in defense of 

11    this nation, and West Point has remained central 

12    to that story.  

13                 Today, as the garrison commander, I 

14    have the privilege of leading the installation 

15    that supports the United States Military Academy, 

16    ensuring that this historic post remains secure, 

17    resilient, and ready to accomplish its mission.  

18                 That mission is clear:  It's to 

19    educate, train, and inspire the leaders of 

20    character for our Army and our nation.  The 

21    cadets with us here today -- who call the 

22    Empire State home -- represent the next 

23    generation of Army officers.  They're part of a 

24    corps of more than 4,000 young men and women who 

25    have chosen a path of service over self.  They'll 


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 1    commission as second lieutenants and lead 

 2    America's sons and daughters in an increasingly 

 3    complex world, and will do so in the same place 

 4    our Revolutionary War soldiers once stood watch 

 5    over the Hudson.  

 6                 That continuity truly matters.  

 7    New Yorkers have always been part of the story, 

 8    from the regiments of the New York line during 

 9    the American Revolution, from the soldiers of the 

10    69th Infantry Regiment, to the citizen soldiers 

11    of the New York National Guard and Army Reserve.  

12                 And to the thousands of West Point 

13    graduates who claim this state as home, New York 

14    has been woven into the fabric of the 

15    United States Army.

16                 Today that partnership remains 

17    essential.  As a garrison, we're not only a 

18    military installation, we live in a community -- 

19    we are a community.  We're families raising 

20    children in the Hudson Valley, we're civilians 

21    who live and work alongside neighbors, and we're 

22    stewards of this historic land, infrastructure, 

23    and resources entrusted to us by the American 

24    people.

25                 We understand that our success 


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 1    depends on strong relationships, especially the 

 2    leaders here today.  You support policies that 

 3    impact our soldiers and families, you advocate 

 4    for veterans, you strengthen education, 

 5    infrastructure, and economic opportunity across 

 6    this great state.  

 7                 That partnership reinforces 

 8    readiness, and readiness is what the nation 

 9    expects from its Army.  We're equally committed 

10    to being good neighbors, to working 

11    collaboratively with local and state leadership, 

12    to preserving the history entrusted to us and 

13    ensuring that West Point remains not only a 

14    symbol of military excellence but a source of 

15    pride for the Empire State.  

16                 A strong civil-military relationship 

17    is not automatic.  It requires engagement, it 

18    requires trust, and it requires moments like 

19    today.

20                 So on behalf of the entire 

21    West Point team, ladies and gentlemen, thank you 

22    for your service to the people of New York, for 

23    your continued support to our soldiers and 

24    cadets, and for honoring West Point.  It's truly 

25    a privilege to stand in this chamber in the state 


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 1    that has been home to West Point for nearly 

 2    250 years.  

 3                 Thank you so very much.  

 4                 And Go Army, Beat Navy!  

 5                 (Laughter; standing ovation.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 7    Colonel Stuewe.

 8                 Now, Senator Scarcella-Spanton on 

 9    the resolution.

10                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

11    you, Madam President.  

12                 And thank you, Majority Leader 

13    Stewart-Cousins, and of course Senator Skoufis, 

14    for making sure that this happens every single 

15    year.  

16                 And to the cadets and the senior 

17    leadership, thank you so much for your service.  

18    And Colonel Stuewe, thank you for your beautiful 

19    and impactful words that I think are heard 

20    throughout here.

21                 As chair of the Veterans, Homeland 

22    Security and Military Affairs Committee, I'm 

23    proud to join my colleagues in honoring 

24    West Point Day here on the Senate floor.  

25                 West Point represents some of the 


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 1    most talented and dedicated individuals our 

 2    nation has to offer, as you can see here in this 

 3    room now.  They come from all corners of the 

 4    country to New York State, united by a shared 

 5    commitment to serving their country and 

 6    protecting our freedoms.  

 7                 And yes, you made the choice to 

 8    partake in some of the most competitive and 

 9    grueling processes that you can go through just 

10    to serve our nation.  So it's very, very much 

11    appreciated, and we should all look to you as an 

12    inspiration.  

13                 Although we don't have any cadets 

14    here from my district visiting us here today, two 

15    years ago we were joined by Cadet Olivia Raykhman 

16    from Manhattan Beach in Brooklyn, who I still 

17    keep in touch with.  Thank you, Senator Skoufis, 

18    who does a great job of making sure all of you 

19    actually meet your Senators, which is an amazing 

20    thing.  Olivia and her fellow cadets represent 

21    the best and the brightest in our country.  

22                 And as we recognize West Point Day 

23    we must also recognize the sacrifices that cadets 

24    make to attend this prestigious university.  Each 

25    cadet has answered a call to serve to defend our 


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 1    liberties.  And I look at you all now, and you're 

 2    young and you're getting ready to serve our 

 3    country, and I can't wait to see, just like 

 4    Olivia, what comes next for all of you.  

 5                 So thank you to the cadets of 

 6    West Point for preparing to serve, and to all of 

 7    the senior leadership here today who are serving.  

 8    Your dedication to duty, honor and country are an 

 9    inspiration to us all.  

10                 And yes:  Go Army, Beat Navy!  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

12    Senator Scarcella-Spanton.

13                 Senator Ashby on the resolution.

14                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.  I want to thank the command 

16    team for being here; Colonel Stuewe.  

17                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

18    for bringing this resolution to the floor, 

19    Senator Skoufis, and our own chairwoman for doing 

20    an incredible job.  

21                 It's great to see the cadets here, 

22    along with the command team, some of which -- 

23    some of who I actually served with in Iraq nearly 

24    20 years ago, and another in Afghanistan.

25                 So it's not quite a homecoming, but 


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 1    it's reassuring to see their faces and to see the 

 2    future leaders that will be coming up next.  

 3                 And each year I try and remember a 

 4    certain type of cadet that comes through.  

 5    Normally, I think we're all aware of the 

 6    congressional appointments that take place, but 

 7    there are other ways to come through West Point.  

 8    You can enlist, and then come through.  

 9                 So these individuals enlist in the 

10    Army and then enter West Point.  And they have an 

11    experience a little separate, a little different 

12    from some cadets.  And I would hope that those 

13    cadets that don't have that enlisted experience 

14    lean on those enlisted soldiers, those prior 

15    enlisted soldiers.  

16                 I say this out of experience as a 

17    junior -- as a former junior officer.  Learning 

18    to lean on your NCOs, learning to lean on those 

19    enlisted soldiers that have that experience, will 

20    serve you well as leaders.  And those commitments 

21    that you have made today will bear out future 

22    sacrifices later.

23                 And at some point you may ask 

24    yourself -- you may find yourself in hard times, 

25    as I'm sure you have already been faced with, but 


                                                               1604

 1    they will be magnified later on in your life.  

 2    And it's these individuals, these people that 

 3    have helped you get here during your time of 

 4    service that will help you get through those 

 5    times and help you find the solutions and that 

 6    path forward.  

 7                 So I implore you to do that.  I am 

 8    continuously amazed and inspired by the work that 

 9    you do.  And I look forward to hearing about all 

10    of your future success.

11                 Thank you, Madam President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Ashby.

14                 Senator Harckham on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

16    much, Madam President.  

17                 I want to thank you, Madam Leader, 

18    for bringing this resolution to the floor every 

19    year, and Senator Skoufis for sponsoring this and 

20    for the great work that you and your team do, and 

21    for all our colleagues who have spoken.  

22                 I grew up in the shadows of 

23    West Point, spent a lot of time there.  My father 

24    had a fondness -- he was a combat veteran of 

25    World War II, and the one thing that he always 


                                                               1605

 1    said to me was, of all the different officers he 

 2    served with in France and Germany, he said there 

 3    was a difference between officers from West Point 

 4    and other officers.  He says there was a 

 5    competency, there was a confidence, and also a 

 6    care.  

 7                 And you heard Senator Ortt allude to 

 8    that, that you have a responsibility for the 

 9    lives of the folks under your command.  And he 

10    said when they move forward under the leadership 

11    of an officer from West Point, he always knew 

12    that was taken into consideration.

13                 And so we hope you remember that 

14    moving forward.  Please know how proud we are of 

15    you, and thankful of your service.  

16                 And at this time it's my pleasure to 

17    introduce, from my district, from Carmel, 

18    New York, Cadet James Ardisana.  If you would 

19    join us, please.  

20                 He's from Company 81, and he's 

21    majoring in civil engineering.  Raised in Carmel, 

22    he comes from a family of service.  His father 

23    wore the uniform of the FDNY, his mother a school 

24    counselor, as we know every day how important 

25    that profession has become.


                                                               1606

 1                 And he hopes to be an aviation 

 2    officer and attend several Army schools such as 

 3    Sapper, Air Assault, or Airborne.  So you've got 

 4    a lot of ambition.  

 5                 We need folks like you, to all of 

 6    you.  I know all my colleagues have ended with 

 7    "Go Army, Beat Navy!"  I will not exhaust that 

 8    and just say I hope they give you a little time 

 9    to party; you're only young once.  

10                 Thank you so much, Madam President.  

11                 (Laughter.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Harckham.

14                 Senator Martins on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.

17                 You know, when so many speak 

18    gratuitously of rights without corresponding 

19    obligations, it is reassuring that we have with 

20    us these cadets who are committed to defending 

21    those rights and have chosen a path of service.

22                 You know, they say that there's a 

23    difference between reputation and character.  

24    That reputation is what you're associated with, 

25    how other people perceive you.  And certainly as 


                                                               1607

 1    cadets at West Point, you share in that 

 2    reputation of excellence that is associated with 

 3    West Point.  

 4                 But character is who you are, and 

 5    defines who you are.  So, Madam President, let me 

 6    tell you a little bit about Cadet Ryan Zhang from 

 7    the 7th Senate District and the character that 

 8    the cadet has exhibited in his life to date.

 9                 So Cadet Zhang, if you would join 

10    us.  Thank you.

11                 So the cadet is from Great Neck.  

12    Great Neck is one of the lighthouse school 

13    districts frankly in the entire world -- always 

14    nationally ranked.  But Cadet Zhang excelled at 

15    Great Neck, and we could tell that there were 

16    great things in his future.  

17                 I had the opportunity in 2023 to be 

18    present when the cadet had his Eagle Scout Court 

19    of Honor.  I was able to be there to recognize 

20    his efforts.  And as an Eagle Scout, as we know, 

21    once an Eagle, always an Eagle.  

22                 But that also goes to character.  

23    And as a young man in Great Neck, in his 

24    community, he also served as a volunteer 

25    firefighter.  So this idea of service is not just 


                                                               1608

 1    time at West Point, but it's something that is 

 2    part of who he is and part of his character.

 3                 Cadet Zhang is the son of two 

 4    immigrants who came here to study and stayed, in 

 5    pursuing the American dream.  So he's pursuing it 

 6    as well, through service.  Which is not only rare 

 7    these days, but I think something that we should 

 8    also highlight when we see it, and certainly see 

 9    it in someone so young.

10                 So volunteer firefighter, 

11    Eagle Scout, now service at West Point.  

12    Obviously done very well academically.  But he's 

13    studying finance, he is in the Fencing Club, 

14    Chinese Language Club.  And Madam President, when 

15    he graduates, he wants to go on and further serve 

16    the country by attending the Airborne School and 

17    attending the U.S. Army Military Freefall School.  

18                 Now, for those of you aren't aware, 

19    the Military Freefall School is the Special 

20    Forces where people fly as high as 25,000 feet to 

21    jump out of an airplane using assistive oxygen, 

22    in order to deploy, which is incredible.  Because 

23    I don't know how many of you or us have actually 

24    jumped out of a perfectly working airplane.  But 

25    the idea of climbing to 25,000 feet, and to do so 


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 1    under those circumstances, and to want to do so 

 2    because it's part of your service, is 

 3    extraordinary.

 4                 And so, Madam President, allow me 

 5    the opportunity to recognize Cadet Zhang, to 

 6    thank him for his service, to thank him for his 

 7    continued service.  And I would just say I know 

 8    as I stand here today just how proud your parents 

 9    are of you, the community is of you, and we 

10    expect great things.

11                 Thank you, Madam President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Martins.

14                 Senator Mattera on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR MATTERA:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 This is such a very, very special 

18    day for all of us here today.  Today is a very 

19    special day in the New York State Senate and one 

20    that I am honored to take part in, West Point 

21    Day.  

22                 I first want to commend our Leader 

23    Stewart-Cousins, and to Senator Skoufis, for 

24    making sure that we continue this wonderful 

25    tradition of celebrating the cadets and leaders 


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 1    of the United States Military Academy at 

 2    West Point this 74th anniversary.  

 3                 I also thank the 11 very special 

 4    cadets that I got to meet who joined us here 

 5    today in the Senate chamber.  You are all the 

 6    elite of the elite.  You are the future defense 

 7    of our great nation, and we are so appreciative 

 8    of your service to our country.

 9                 I thank West Point senior mission 

10    leader Colonel Daniel R. Stuewe and his fellow 

11    leaders for joining us in Albany for this special 

12    day, and for all you do for our country.  

13                 Thank you so, so much.

14                 While I'm proud of each of our 

15    cadets, it is special to me to welcome one cadet 

16    from my district who grew up in the 2nd Senate 

17    District, on Long Island, Cadet Caroline 

18    Carvajal.  Can you please -- can you please rise, 

19    please stand up for us?  Thank you so much, 

20    Caroline.  

21                 Cadet Carvajal is from 

22    East Northport, and she is a truly exceptional 

23    individual.  Currently she is a physics major at 

24    West Point.  

25                 And you know, everyone in the 


                                                               1611

 1    2nd Senate District, especially those in your 

 2    hometown and in Northport High School, we are so 

 3    extremely proud of you.  We all wish you the best 

 4    as you strive to attend Air Assault School this 

 5    summer to earn your wings and eventually get a 

 6    commission as a field artillery officer.  

 7                 Also, she plays in the band also.  

 8    She plays the saxophone.  I used to play the 

 9    trumpet, by the way, so we've got to get 

10    together, okay, please?

11                 (Laughter.)

12                 SENATOR MATTERA:   You bring immense 

13    pride to our community and to our state and our 

14    country.  I thank you for your service, 

15    sacrifice, and dedication.  You are an 

16    outstanding young woman with a bright future.  It 

17    is truly an honor to welcome you and your fellow 

18    cadets to the Senate, and to thank you for making 

19    the choice to serve our nation in the 

20    United States Army after graduation.

21                 So I just want to say God bless you 

22    and all your fellow cadets that are here with us 

23    today.  God bless the United States Army and all 

24    those who serve in the nation's military.  And 

25    especially, God bless the United States of 


                                                               1612

 1    America.  

 2                 And thank you.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 4    Senator Mattera.

 5                 Senator Palumbo on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 It's my honor and I have great pride 

 9    to introduce Cadet Jess Joe Augustine, who hails 

10    from the 1st Senate District.  

11                 Cadet Augustine, maybe move over a 

12    little bit so I can see you, if you don't mind.  

13    He's over in the -- front and center, Cadet.  

14    Where are you?  There he is, there he is.  Very 

15    good.  Very good, thank you.  Thank you, Cadet.  

16    See, there you go, bold.

17                 As I hear the comments from my 

18    colleagues here -- you know, and we all have 

19    great pride to recognize all of you, our current 

20    leadership, our future leaders.  We think about 

21    the comments Leader Ortt and others made about 

22    General George Washington, how he was really not 

23    thrilled about having a standing army.  

24                 But many of us know there's a 

25    tremendous interrelationship between what you 


                                                               1613

 1    folks do and what we do right here in government 

 2    on the floor.  We can say virtually, within 

 3    reason, whatever we want because of the freedoms 

 4    that we enjoy, thanks to folks like you and those 

 5    folks to my left.  

 6                 And General George Washington 

 7    specifically said the most effective way to 

 8    preserve peace is to be prepared for war, and 

 9    that's why he made the very serious decision to 

10    ultimately establish the academy and to have a 

11    standing army.  And so I thank you for your 

12    commitment and dedication to this country and 

13    this state.  

14                 I'm going to tell everyone a 

15    little bit about you.  Cadet Augustine's in 

16    Company H3.  His intended branch is cyber.  He's 

17    majoring in environmental engineering.  And in 

18    high school he was a cross country, track and 

19    field star.  He won two state titles in the 

20    3,000-meter steeplechase.  And for those of you 

21    who aren't very good at math, that's about 

22    two miles.  And he won two state titles.  

23                 And that dedication, of course, 

24    translated directly to his life as a cadet.  His 

25    plans for the future are to graduate as a cyber 


                                                               1614

 1    officer, attend rigorous Army schools such as 

 2    Ranger and Sapper School, and eventually to 

 3    return to West Point as a professor, as an 

 4    instructor.  

 5                 So to our future professor, thank 

 6    you.  To all the cadets, and our friends here in 

 7    leadership and their commitment to this country, 

 8    I thank you all.  God bless all of you.  And 

 9    God bless the United States of America.  

10                 Congratulations.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

12    Senator Palumbo.  Thank you.  

13                 Senator Rolison on the resolution.

14                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.  

16                 To the leader, thank you.  

17    Senator Skoufis, again, thank you.  

18                 I have the honor today to stand and 

19    recognize, acknowledge and thank Cadet Joshua 

20    Brancamp.  Would you please stand?  

21                 Before I have the opportunity to 

22    talk about this fine young man and his service to 

23    this country, you know, it's been said many times 

24    that individuals who stand up and step up to do 

25    the type of work, putting your lives on the line 


                                                               1615

 1    like you will be asked to do, really starts when 

 2    you want to aspire to do that.  That takes 

 3    courage.  That takes bravery.  And of course it 

 4    takes dedication.  

 5                 It's often been said, too, that 

 6    every single thing that you will do after you 

 7    make that decision is in the line of duty.  So we 

 8    look at all of you here today and say, thank you 

 9    for that.  Your bravery, your courage, your 

10    dedication really started long ago when you 

11    wanted to go to West Point.

12                 And this fine young man, this cadet, 

13    is from Hopewell Junction, Madam President, in 

14    the Town of East Fishkill in the 39th District.  

15                 And he's a Company H3.  Intended 

16    branch, engineer.  Major in civil engineering.  

17    Club/sport, most important, Scoutmaster Council.  

18    Even there, you're giving others the opportunity 

19    to do what you have chosen to do yourself.

20                 And military training, Air Assault.  

21    You wanted to go to West Point, you've wanted to 

22    serve because your dad was an officer and 

23    continues to be an officer in the Army Reserve.  

24                 I know what it's like to see your 

25    father and maybe want to do the same thing 


                                                               1616

 1    someday.  So thank you for that as well.

 2                 In your future, Cadet Brancamp, you 

 3    want to graduate as an engineer officer and you 

 4    want to post to Fort Bragg, North Carolina.  And 

 5    as an officer you hope to attend schools like 

 6    Sapper and Ranger School.  

 7                 And to all of you here today, but 

 8    especially to Cadet Brancamp, you know, we had 

 9    the opportunity to talk briefly.  And when I 

10    shook your hand and I heard your voice, I knew 

11    that handshake and that voice stood for bravery, 

12    courage, and dedication.  I could feel it and I 

13    could hear it.  So thank you.  

14                 God bless all of you for serving.  

15    God bless all of you for what you're going to do 

16    for this great country.  God bless West Point.  

17    To the executive staff, thank you for leading 

18    these fine young men and women.  

19                 And God bless the United States of 

20    America.

21                 Thank you, Madam President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Rolison.

24                 Senator Stavisky on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 


                                                               1617

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 And thank you to the 

 3    Majority Leader, Senator Stewart-Cousins, for 

 4    bringing this resolution to the floor, and 

 5    Senator Skoufis for sponsoring it.  

 6                 And Senator Skoufis, you have 

 7    continued the same kind of tradition, in speaking 

 8    on West Point Day, that Colonel Larkin did when 

 9    he served in this chamber.  It meant so much to 

10    him, and I know this means a great deal to you.

11                 I am fortunate to have two cadets 

12    here.  And in fact, we know that there's another 

13    cadet back at West Point because the first cadet 

14    I will mention is Tricia Chen, a cadet from 

15    College Point.  

16                 Cadet, thank you for coming.  

17                 And Cadet Chen's sister, her twin 

18    sister Tracy, was here two years ago.  And I said  

19    it then,and I want to repeat what I said then 

20    today.

21                 That is an incredible family.  Their 

22    three children served in the military.  Both 

23    Cadets Chen served in the Army and received an 

24    appointment through their service in the Army to 

25    the Academy.


                                                               1618

 1                 But that family has raised their 

 2    children in an environment of service, of 

 3    commitment, of dedication.  And that really is a 

 4    reflection not only upon them, but upon the 

 5    environment in which they grew up.  

 6                 So thank you, Cadet Chen, who is 

 7    hoping to go to Flight School, from what I 

 8    understand.  So good luck in your future 

 9    assignments.

10                 And I also am proud to introduce 

11    Cadet Joel Shin, if Cadet Shin would stand.  

12    Cadet Shin is a computer science major, hopes to 

13    continue in graduate school.  And he too is a 

14    resident of my district, but they live in 

15    College Point, which I am proud to represent in 

16    the Senate.

17                 Cadet Shin is interested in a 

18    variety of areas, including athletics, but 

19    especially computer science and hopes to attend 

20    graduate school, I believe in the fall.

21                 And Cadet Shin again represents the 

22    best that the community has to offer -- an idea 

23    of service, of commitment, of traditional values 

24    that are important, particularly for young 

25    people.  


                                                               1619

 1                 I chair the Committee on 

 2    Higher Education, so I feel even though 

 3    West Point doesn't come under our jurisdiction, 

 4    we are doing the right thing in terms of 

 5    educating young people for a career of service.  

 6                 And we thank you for your 

 7    commitment, and let us continue this tradition 

 8    for another 74 years.  

 9                 Thank you, Madam President.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

11    Senator Stavisky.

12                 Senator Stec on the resolution.  

13                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 Thank you, Leader Andrea 

16    Stewart-Cousins and Senator Skoufis, for 

17    supporting and bringing this forward today.  

18                 It's a pleasure.  This is my first 

19    opportunity to -- and probably the first time 

20    that I've been entrusted with the responsibility 

21    of welcoming a cadet to this chamber.  

22                 The 45th Senate District is home to 

23    many fabulous and wonderful things, two of them 

24    being the birthplace of the United States Navy -- 

25    Whitehall, New York -- and the second being the 


                                                               1620

 1    home of Cadet Richard McGrath.  If Cadet McGrath 

 2    would stand, please.  

 3                 Cadet McGrath is from Champlain, 

 4    New York.  That is the northeasternmost town in 

 5    our state.  It's on the shores of Lake Champlain, 

 6    and it's also on the Canadian border.  

 7                 Senator Ashby mentioned previously 

 8    the importance and the value of prior enlisted 

 9    service in the Officer Corps, and Cadet McGrath 

10    is one of those cadets.  Shortly after he 

11    graduated from Northeastern Clinton Central 

12    School District, he enlisted as a cavalry scout, 

13    completing one station unit training out of 

14    Fort Benning, Georgia.  And following graduation 

15    he was stationed in Fort Riley, Kansas, and later 

16    attended the United States Military Academy 

17    Prep School before going to West Point.  

18                 I note that he wants to be in the 

19    Military Police, so there's a few of us here that 

20    I sit amongst that you probably would have 

21    crossed paths with had their service overlapped.  

22    But fortunately for them, it will not.  

23                 But his major is environmental 

24    science.  And his love of the Adirondacks, he 

25    stated that it's his aspiration that when he's 


                                                               1621

 1    finished with the Army, he'd like to work for the 

 2    New York State Department of Environmental 

 3    Conservation as an Environmental Conservation 

 4    Officer.  

 5                 My own father, who is an artillery 

 6    Vietnam Marine Corps veteran, he did a career as 

 7    a Forest Ranger in DEC.  So I'm very familiar 

 8    with DEC and the work that the ECOs and the 

 9    Forest Rangers do.  

10                 New York State would be fortunate to 

11    have you, Cadet, if that's the path that you 

12    choose.  And certainly if you do choose that 

13    path, I think I might be able to help you with a 

14    letter of recommendation.

15                 But, Madam President, to the 

16    leadership staff that's here, to all the cadets 

17    that made the trip today, thank you for your 

18    service, thank you for your sacrifice.  I won't 

19    take the bait and say the line because I'll say 

20    it the opposite way, and we were doing so well.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR STEC:   But I'll just say 

23    thank you all, from all of our veterans.  And I'm 

24    privileged and honored to be among six in this 

25    chamber that served the country.  And I respect 


                                                               1622

 1    and I admire your service and your future 

 2    service.  

 3                 So thank you, Madam President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 5    Senator Stec.

 6                 Senator Tedisco on the resolution.

 7                 SENATOR TEDISCO:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 And I too want to thank all of my 

10    colleagues for making this important day 

11    possible.  And I especially want to thank my 

12    colleagues here who have served in the military 

13    and now have come here to serve in the Senate in 

14    New York State.  And, by extension, you serve the 

15    nation when you serve our state.  

16                 I think all of us realize when we 

17    introduce and welcome and thank our own cadet 

18    from our Senate district, we're thanking all of 

19    you, as our cadets, for your service and for your 

20    accomplishments.

21                 And by extension, today also we 

22    think about and we show our respects and thanks 

23    to the men and women, past, the present, 

24    future -- best described as the best, most 

25    courageous and compassionate force for good in 


                                                               1623

 1    the United States of America, the men and women 

 2    of our military, the armed forces.

 3                 We appreciate you.  We appreciate 

 4    them protecting this great nation and protecting 

 5    our freedom and our liberty.

 6                 I'd like to say a few words, if I 

 7    could, about my cadet, Thomas Villano III, if he 

 8    would stand up.  

 9                 He's from the great town of Galway, 

10    in Saratoga County, 44th Senatorial District.  

11    His company is C4.  His branch is intended as 

12    field artillery.  His major is applied 

13    psychology.  Club/sports:  Rabble Rousers manager 

14    and company athletics.  Military training:  Air 

15    Assault.  

16                 Born and raised in the Capital 

17    Region, just 30 minutes from Saratoga Springs, 

18    played basketball -- I can relate to that a 

19    little bit, I did when I was tall -- 

20                 (Laughter.)

21                 SENATOR TEDISCO:   -- and he was a 

22    thrower in track and field, went to state 

23    qualifiers for track.  And he comes from a 

24    non-military background.  So maybe we can change 

25    that trend now, Thomas, possibly.  


                                                               1624

 1                 He went to state qualifiers for 

 2    track, as I mentioned.  Currently serving as an 

 3    ACT representative for the battalion.  And his 

 4    future plans relate to the branch of field 

 5    artillery.  And he intends school and going into 

 6    the medical field in some fashion from 

 7    grad school.  Also hopes to attend other 

 8    broadening schools while in the Army.  

 9                 We appreciate your service, and we 

10    thank you so much for being involved in this 

11    great organization.  And I know you're going to 

12    go on to fantastic achievements.

13                 Thank you, Thomas, for being here, 

14    and thank all of our cadets.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

16    Senator Tedisco.

17                 Senator Weik on the resolution.

18                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 First I'd like to say welcome and 

21    thank you for your service to our great 

22    leadership from West Point.  And welcome to all 

23    the cadets who are here today.  

24                 I feel like my district churns out 

25    great Americans, because once again I'm so very 


                                                               1625

 1    proud to have yet another cadet that I get to 

 2    honor here in this chamber.

 3                 You've chosen such a brave, 

 4    honorable path, and I thank you very much for 

 5    choosing that path.  

 6                 Today I have the great honor of 

 7    being able to recognize Christopher Sanchez.  

 8    Would you rise and let us recognize you?  Thank 

 9    you.

10                 Cadet Sanchez comes from the 

11    beautiful hamlet of Bay Shore, New York.  He 

12    serves in the -- his intended military branch is 

13    Military Intelligence, BD infantry.  His major is 

14    applied psychology, and his military training 

15    includes Air Assault School.  

16                 He comes from a dual military family 

17    and has been part of the Army culture, which 

18    means he had a very strict household when he grew 

19    up.  

20                 He performed the role of battalion 

21    command sergeant major, overseeing 365 cadets, 

22    and has graduated from Air Assault School, and 

23    presently aspires in his future to attend the 

24    Interservice Physician Assistant Program, or the 

25    USU School of Medicine, in the pursuit of 


                                                               1626

 1    practicing medicine both during and after his 

 2    time in service.  

 3                 Which is a tremendous undertaking, 

 4    and I thank you so much for making yourself such 

 5    an incredible, valuable part of not just our 

 6    community but our nation.  

 7                 Thank you so much for your bravery 

 8    and your commitment to our nation.  God bless all 

 9    of you.  Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

11    Senator Weik.

12                 To our guests, our distinguished 

13    cadets, our wonderful leadership at West Point, 

14    and all the administrative staff that made this 

15    happen, we as a body are truly privileged to 

16    welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We extend 

17    to you the privileges and courtesies of our 

18    house.  

19                 Please rise and be recognized.

20                 (Extended standing ovation.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

22    resolution was adopted on March 17th.

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

25    Senator Skoufis would like to open this 


                                                               1627

 1    resolution for cosponsorship.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

 4    choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify the 

 5    desk.

 6                 Senator Gianaris.

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

 8    the reading of the calendar.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    Secretary will read.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    392, Senate Print 3207A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

13    act to amend the Public Health Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

18    have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

23    the results.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 392, voting in the negative:  


                                                               1628

 1    Senator Borrello.

 2                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    430, Senate Print 936A, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

 7    act directing a state agency telework report.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 430, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Griffo, O'Mara, Ortt and Walczyk.

20                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 4.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    441, Senate Print 2437A, by Senator Krueger, an 

25    act to amend the Election Law.


                                                               1629

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 441, voting in the negative:  

13    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    457, Senate Print 919A, by Senator May, an act to 

19    amend the Executive Law.

20                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

22    aside.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    461, Senate Print 2587, by Senator Mayer, an act 

25    to amend the Executive Law.


                                                               1630

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 9    Mayer to explain her vote.

10                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.  I rise to vote aye on this 

12    legislation.  

13                 By establishing January 30th as 

14    "Fred Korematsu Day of Civil Liberties and the 

15    Constitution," we are affirming New York's 

16    commitment to learning and teaching about the 

17    difficult history of the United States' shameful 

18    treatment of Japanese and Japanese-Americans 

19    during World War II and their forced relocation 

20    to internment camps.  

21                 We recognize Fred Korematsu's 

22    contributions to helping us reckon with our 

23    history and recommit to the ongoing fight for 

24    civil and constitutional rights for all.

25                 Mr. Korematsu, a 22-year-old 


                                                               1631

 1    shipyard welder and American citizen, was fired 

 2    from his job due to his Japanese ancestry, but he 

 3    refused to go when his family was ordered to 

 4    relocate to an internment camp.  He was arrested, 

 5    convicted in federal court, and sent to an 

 6    internment camp.  

 7                 He appealed his conviction, but the 

 8    United States Supreme Court ultimately affirmed 

 9    it.  

10                 Much later, the Supreme Court 

11    recognized that the prior decision was wrong, and 

12    Chief Justice John Roberts said:  "Korematsu was 

13    gravely wrong the day it was decided, has been 

14    overruled in the court of history, and -- to be 

15    clear -- 'has no place in law under the 

16    Constitution.'"

17                 He was awarded the Presidential 

18    Medal of Freedom:  Fred Korematsu, who wanted 

19    nothing more than to live an ordinary life but 

20    was instead forcibly detained due to his 

21    ancestry.  

22                 There are some today being ripped 

23    from their families as ordinary people living 

24    ordinary lives and contributing to their 

25    communities.  Let us not fall again so readily 


                                                               1632

 1    into the trap of seeing the other as the enemy.  

 2                 Today we reaffirm the principles 

 3    that Fred Korematsu stood for, and we stand 

 4    together to make this day a day of reckoning on 

 5    behalf of Fred Korematsu and others like him.  

 6                 I vote aye.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    462, Senate Print 3204, by Senator Krueger, an 

15    act to amend the Penal Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

19    act shall take effect on the first of November.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.


                                                               1633

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    490, Senate Print 3180, by Senator Sanders, an 

 5    act to amend the Elder Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    491, Senate Print 4805, by Senator Ryan, an act 

21    to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               1634

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5    Ryan to explain his vote.

 6                 SENATOR RYAN:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 Today I want to rise and support 

 9    this piece of legislation because it's going to 

10    be a real tangible difference in the lives of our 

11    senior citizens across New York State.  For too 

12    long, older -- senior New Yorkers who qualify for 

13    the citizen property tax exemption have been 

14    forced to navigate a burdensome and often 

15    confusing application process.  

16                 In order to receive the benefit they 

17    are entitled to, they must gather financial 

18    documents, make in-person visits to a local 

19    assessor's office, sometimes year and year.  And 

20    for me, quite simply, that doesn't make a whole 

21    lot of sense. 

22                 So what this bill will do, it 

23    streamlines the process by allowing the state to 

24    take on the responsibility of verifying income 

25    eligibility, just as we already do with the 


                                                               1635

 1    enhanced STAR program.  So instead of placing the 

 2    burden on seniors, we are leveraging the tools 

 3    and data already available at the state level to 

 4    make government work more efficiently for our 

 5    senior citizens, many of which have mobility 

 6    challenges and limited transportation.

 7                 So I hope you'll support me.  

 8                 And I'll say this.  Sometimes on the 

 9    floor we use the word "unfunded mandate," 

10    sometimes we hear that.  But this is -- I'm 

11    bringing a new word up, saying it's a refunded 

12    mandate, because the state's going to help our 

13    local towns, which we should be doing.  

14                 So I vote aye.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

16    Ryan to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                 Announce the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    499, Senate Print 2084, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

23    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               1636

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 7    Helming to explain her vote.

 8                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.

10                 I think it's a great practice for 

11    municipalities, for local governments to create 

12    and periodically update a comprehensive plan, and 

13    to make sure that it addresses issues such as 

14    housing.  That's a practice that I followed as a 

15    town supervisor.

16                 However, the bill before us is a 

17    requirement.  It's a mandate, an unfunded mandate 

18    on our local governments.  And all too often that 

19    translates into increased property taxes for 

20    people.  

21                 And the other issue I have with this 

22    bill at this time is that it's forcing 

23    municipalities of every single size to address a 

24    problem they can't fix.  

25                 Residential construction, as I've 


                                                               1637

 1    said on this floor time and time again, in our 

 2    Housing Committee meetings and in every meeting I 

 3    have an opportunity to talk about it, has been 

 4    delayed or has come to an ultimate stop because 

 5    of the All-Electric Building mandates.  And it's 

 6    impossible to build when the electric capacity 

 7    doesn't exist.  

 8                 So for those reasons, Mr. President, 

 9    I am a no on this bill.  I hope we address the 

10    All-Electric mandates that are stopping 

11    residential building from occurring within our 

12    districts.  

13                 Thank you.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator  

15    Helming to be recorded in the negative.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 499, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Griffo, Helming, 

20    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 51.  Nays, 9.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    507, Senate Print 2556, by Senator Comrie, an act 


                                                               1638

 1    to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

15    reading of today's calendar.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's go, 

17    Mr. President!  It's March Madness in the 

18    Senate chamber today:  The Walczyk-May rematch 

19    we've been waiting for.  

20                 (Laughter.)

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 

22    the controversial calendar, please.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    Secretary will ring the bell.

25                 And may the brackets begin.  


                                                               1639

 1                 (Laughter.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    457, Senate Print 919A, by Senator May, an act to 

 6    amend the Executive Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Walczyk, why do you rise?

 9                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Well, I grew up 

10    watching 'Cuse hoops.  I don't think I'll be 

11    representing that team or that area today, 

12    Mr. President.  I hope the sponsor will yield for 

13    some questions.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   A 

15    representative of Syracuse, a proud 

16    representative of Syracuse, Senator May, do you 

17    yield?  You've got your Syracuse orange on today.

18                 SENATOR MAY:   Right, I am dressed 

19    for the part.  

20                 Yes, I yield, Mr. President.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22    Senator yields.

23                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you.  

24    Through you, Mr. President.

25                 So the Community Development Block 


                                                               1640

 1    Grants provide annual federal grants for low- and 

 2    moderate-income areas.  The goal is to combat 

 3    blight and improve quality of life in low-income 

 4    areas.

 5                 Your bill would cut CDBG funds by 

 6    50 percent for communities who don't comply with 

 7    the new law that you're proposing here today.

 8                 How does that 50 percent cut to poor 

 9    areas help them improve low- and moderate-income 

10    areas in the state?

11                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President.  

13                 First of all, thank you for the 

14    question.  Thank you for paying attention to this 

15    bill.

16                 And this bill exists -- the purpose 

17    of this bill is to make sure that communities are 

18    collecting and reporting basic information about 

19    housing stock and housing plans, housing 

20    construction in their communities.  Which is 

21    critical information that will guide how the 

22    state spends billions of dollars in promoting 

23    housing construction, housing renovation, and 

24    helping people, renters and homeowners, stay in 

25    their homes.


                                                               1641

 1                 So the idea here is there is a 

 2    penalty attached to not doing this.  And the idea 

 3    of that penalty is that it will focus the minds 

 4    of the communities on actually doing this.  

 5                 It's not a huge thing we're asking 

 6    them to do.  Most communities already collect 

 7    much of this information.  Some of it already has 

 8    to be reported to the Secretary of State, but not 

 9    all of it.  And a lot of it is not transparent.

10                 And so this is just to -- our hope 

11    is that nobody will incur the penalty, but that 

12    the -- it will help incentivize them to do this 

13    job.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

15    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

16    yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

18    sponsor yield? 

19                 SENATOR MAY:   I will.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Your memo says 

23    fiscal-impact implications are none, so I assume 

24    that any fiscal impact in meeting the compliance 

25    here would be borne by the local municipalities.  


                                                               1642

 1                 Would we consider this an 

 2    unfunded mandate, or are there funds somewhere 

 3    else the state has set aside to help them comply 

 4    with the new reporting requirements you're 

 5    proposing here today?

 6                 SENATOR MAY:   So there would be 

 7    none in the first year.  

 8                 But my expectation is that if there 

 9    was a need, because there is a pretty long 

10    on-ramp for -- I'm sorry, through you, 

11    Mr. President -- for implementing this.  If 

12    municipalities did need that funding, we could 

13    get that in the budget the relevant year.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 

15    continue to yield.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

17    sponsor yield? 

18                 SENATOR MAY:   I will.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

20    sponsor yields.  

21                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

22    Mr. President.  So this bill requires towns, 

23    villages, cities to submit a zoning map annually 

24    to the Department of Homes and Community Renewal.  

25    It also requires towns, villages and cities to 


                                                               1643

 1    submit to HCR an annual report on new 

 2    construction, alteration, demolition and 

 3    consolidation of housing.  I think you'd outlined 

 4    some of those things in your remarks.

 5                 What is the definition of 

 6    "alteration," for purposes of this legislation?

 7                 (Pause.)

 8                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President.  That is one of the pieces of this 

10    that would be determined by HCR generally, with 

11    public comment, along with a number of other 

12    aspects of how the reporting would be done, for 

13    example.  

14                 We want to make sure that it's easy 

15    for municipalities to report their information so 

16    that they could use pathways they've already been 

17    using to report other information.

18                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 

19    continue to yield?

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

21    sponsor yield?  

22                 SENATOR MAY:   I do.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    sponsor yields.

25                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 


                                                               1644

 1    Mr. President.  So are you trying to capture 

 2    every permit that is pulled at a town, village, 

 3    and city?  Would that -- any permit at all that 

 4    is pulled from the codes department or however 

 5    they do their works for any alterations or 

 6    demolition on a property, those would all get 

 7    sent up to the state?  Is that how I understand 

 8    this?  

 9                 (Pause.)

10                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

11    Mr. President.  What we're targeting is anything 

12    that is relevant to the increase or decrease of 

13    the housing stock in that community.  

14                 And I also want to make sure to 

15    point out that in the A print, we have exempted 

16    communities of less than 5,000.  That was a 

17    request that we received.  And streamlines this 

18    process.  We're talking about communities of a 

19    substantial size.

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 

21    continue to yield?

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

23    sponsor yield? 

24                 SENATOR MAY:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 


                                                               1645

 1    sponsor yields.

 2                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   So just so I 

 3    understand properly on alterations, so the -- 

 4    when you reference alterations in this 

 5    legislation, because it wasn't spelled out, 

 6    you're only talking about alterations to a 

 7    building that would increase the housing capacity 

 8    of that building?

 9                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President, we are talking -- either increase 

11    or decrease the amount of housing stock in that 

12    area.

13                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And would the 

14    sponsor continue to yield?  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

16    sponsor yield? 

17                 SENATOR MAY:   I will.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  So as you just pointed out, 

22    you've exempted towns with a population of less 

23    than 5,000.  The line -- specifically, Line 21 of 

24    your bill says "shall not apply to any local 

25    board of a town with a population of less than 


                                                               1646

 1    5,000 people."

 2                 What about a city with a population 

 3    of less than 5,000?  I represent the City of 

 4    Little Falls; it has a population of 4,600.  

 5    Would they have to comply?  

 6                 (Pause.)

 7                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President.  If the city is the permitting 

 9    authority, then it would apply to the city.  

10                 We're aware that there are different 

11    levels of government that handle those kinds of 

12    permitting issues.

13                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 

14    continue to yield?  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

16    sponsor yield? 

17                 SENATOR MAY:   Yes.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  So what about villages with a 

22    population of less than 5,000?  I represent 

23    45 villages.

24                 SENATOR MAY:   Mr. President, my 

25    understanding is if they are coterminous with a 


                                                               1647

 1    town, then it would apply to them.  If they are 

 2    not, then that would be a different matter.

 3                 But this is also something that 

 4    would be open -- if my colleague wants to 

 5    recommend a different wording for that, I am 

 6    certainly open to making amendments here.

 7                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

 8    would the sponsor continue to yield?  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Would the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR MAY:   I would.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

15    Mr. President.  So villages like the Village of 

16    Cato that is located both in Ira and in the 

17    Town of Cato, they would have to comply, even 

18    though they have a population of a little over 

19    500 people?  

20                 (Pause.) 

21                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President.  The answer is yes, if they are 

23    the permitting authority.  Frequently 

24    villages are not.

25                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 


                                                               1648

 1    continue to yield?  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield? 

 4                 SENATOR MAY:   I will.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   We have a 

 8    Rural Resources Commission here in the New York 

 9    State Senate.  We also have the ability to reach 

10    out to multiple different associations that 

11    represent towns, villages and cities across the 

12    State of New York.  

13                 Have you heard back from the 

14    Association of Towns?  Do they support the 

15    legislation you're proposing here?

16                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

17    Mr. President.  We have not received opposition 

18    from those organizations to this legislation.  

19                 And I would just say one of the 

20    things that prompted this legislation was the 

21    Fair Housing organization in Onondaga County 

22    tried to assemble information about zoning 

23    regulations in all the different municipalities 

24    within the county, and it took years to get that 

25    information.  Some of the information was just 


                                                               1649

 1    jotted in pencil on a piece of paper that they 

 2    found in a file folder somewhere.  

 3                 But these are decisions that have a 

 4    real impact on homeowners, on developers, on the 

 5    shapes of these communities.  And so this is 

 6    information that no matter how small your 

 7    community is, I think the residents of the 

 8    community deserve to have that information.

 9                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Will the sponsor 

10    continue to yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR MAY:   I will.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   If you haven't 

17    received -- through you, Mr. President, if you 

18    haven't received support from the Association of 

19    Towns, how about the New York Conference of 

20    Mayors or NYCOM?

21                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President.  We haven't received opposition or 

23    support from any of those local organizations.

24                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Would the sponsor 

25    continue to yield?  


                                                               1650

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

 2    sponsor yield? 

 3                 SENATOR MAY:   I do.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.  

 6                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President.  This bill also requires 

 8    municipalities' information sent to Homes and 

 9    Community Renewal be posted publicly by the 

10    Department of State.  

11                 Why should a homeowner's demolition, 

12    expansion, or alteration of their property be 

13    posted publicly for everyone in New York State to 

14    see, including their address and whatever permit 

15    that they pulled at their local municipal office 

16    in order to do that demolition or that alteration 

17    of their property?

18                 SENATOR MAY:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President.  We believe there is a compelling 

20    public value, given the amount of money that the 

21    taxpayers of New York State are investing in 

22    building housing, in renovating housing, in 

23    expanding the housing stock, in keeping renters 

24    and homeowners in their homes, we believe there's 

25    a compelling public value to having this kind of 


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 1    information be public so that decisions both at 

 2    the local and at the state level can be made 

 3    wisely.

 4                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you.

 5                 Mr. President, on the bill.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 7    Walczyk on the bill.

 8                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Requiring our 

 9    poorest communities to do more reporting even if 

10    they are a tiny village -- and as the sponsor 

11    pointed out, you know, may have a few hundred 

12    residents and may be handling things on paper in 

13    a filing cabinet?  That may sound funny here in 

14    Albany, but it is the reality on the ground for a 

15    number of municipalities that often share code 

16    enforcement across a number of different 

17    municipalities.  

18                 They have a hard time even filling a 

19    zoning board because of the number of residents 

20    that they have.  

21                 But that doesn't mean they don't get 

22    the job done to preserve the community that they 

23    want.  And bringing another unfunded mandate on 

24    top of them, requiring them to send all of those 

25    permits up to Albany, is just going to be another 


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 1    unfunded mandate.

 2                 But eventually they get funded, 

 3    right?  By who?  By the local taxpayers, is who 

 4    gets to pay for this.

 5                 And threatening to cut federal 

 6    funding from CDBG funds that are designed to go 

 7    to those poorest areas of New York State -- that 

 8    really need some additional assistance -- is not 

 9    a helpful incentive for those that are doing 

10    their best out there right now.

11                 If you want to make housing more 

12    inexpensive, you could use the national standard 

13    for the Building Code.  You could repeal the 

14    All-Electric Buildings Act.  You could implement 

15    incentives for first-time homebuyers.  You could 

16    invest in infrastructure.  You could reduce costs 

17    of construction materials here in the State of 

18    New York.  

19                 But instead, this bill says we're 

20    going to penalize local municipalities if they 

21    don't do two different annual reports on their 

22    zoning and everybody that is pulling permits to 

23    improve their homes now.

24                 The problem in New York is not that 

25    local governments aren't reporting enough.  Talk 


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 1    to the New York Conference of Mayors.  Talk to 

 2    the Association of Towns.  They'll tell you, We 

 3    report plenty to the State of New York.

 4                 This bill will only bring new 

 5    problems and no solutions to lower the cost of 

 6    housing in New York State.  I'll be voting no and 

 7    encourage my colleagues to do the same.

 8                 Thank you.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

10    you, Senator Walczyk.  

11                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

12    to be heard?

13                 Senator Martins, why do you rise?

14                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

15    Mr. President.  On the bill.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

17    Martins on the bill.

18                 SENATOR MARTINS:   I have two towns 

19    and 43 villages in my district.  I guarantee you, 

20    Mr. President, that the residents of each one of 

21    those villages is acutely aware of any buildings 

22    that are going up in the village.  It's where 

23    they live.  There's a new construction going on?  

24    They're aware of it.

25                 The idea that anyone's going to 


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 1    suggest that this is an open government bill, 

 2    this is somehow a means for local residents and 

 3    taxpayers to somehow be availed of certain 

 4    information that they otherwise would not have, 

 5    is nonsense.  Absolute nonsense.

 6                 Those local communities know full 

 7    well, as does everyone in this room who has any 

 8    villages in their communities, the idea that they 

 9    have to send that information and assemble that 

10    information and send it to Albany as a way of 

11    opening up access to their local communities so 

12    that they know what's being built in their 

13    community, is just not true.  And frankly, it 

14    doesn't make sense.

15                 Here's what happened.  A local 

16    housing group in Onondaga County decided that 

17    they couldn't get information fast enough from 

18    their communities because they're FOILing it.  

19    And you know what, Mr. President?  When you have 

20    a FOIL, when these communities get FOILs, they're 

21    able to hand over papers that they assemble.  But 

22    what they're asking for, I guarantee you, this 

23    housing group, was for the community to assemble 

24    the information for them.  And when they didn't 

25    move fast enough, we get this bill.


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 1                 And all this bill does is put 

 2    obligations on our local communities.  So instead 

 3    of attending to their local community, to the 

 4    property owners, maybe to fixing roads in the 

 5    local community, we're going to siphon resources 

 6    so that some special-interest group in 

 7    Onondaga County that didn't get information fast 

 8    enough is going to force villages in the 

 9    7th Senate District and in Nassau County to spend 

10    time, effort, and money, resources, with their 

11    personnel, assembling information.  

12                 To what end?  Section, block, and 

13    lot.  The kind of alteration.  Information 

14    specific to that community that has no bearing on 

15    housing on a statewide level.  And yet we're 

16    supposed to pass a law because someone wants to 

17    check a box and say "I'm doing something for 

18    housing."  This does absolutely nothing for 

19    housing other than to increase costs for our 

20    communities, put additional burdens on our 

21    villages, towns.  

22                 And frankly, Mr. President, I'll 

23    have no part of it.  I'll be voting no.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

25    you, Senator Martins.


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 1                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 2    to be heard?

 3                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 4    now closed.

 5                 Senator Serrano.

 6                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Upon consent, 

 7    we've agreed to restore this bill to the 

 8    noncontroversial calendar.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

10    consent, the bill has been restored.

11                 Read the last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the first of January.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll.  

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

18    May to explain her vote.

19                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

20    Mr. President.

21                 And I will point out that the 

22    CDBG funds are under threat by the president of 

23    the United States and may be gone by the time 

24    this bill takes effect, so there might need to be 

25    a different kind of incentive put in place.


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 1                 But I do want to come back to 

 2    Onondaga County, where we have a situation where 

 3    the county wants to see considerably more housing 

 4    built -- we're seeing this all over the state, 

 5    that people's children can't move back into their 

 6    communities because there are no affordable 

 7    houses to be bought or apartments to find.  

 8    People, seniors who want to downsize but stay in 

 9    the communities they've lived in for decades 

10    don't have places to go because we aren't 

11    building enough housing.

12                 And so there is a very strong 

13    interest in figuring out how we solve that 

14    problem.  And especially in Onondaga County, 

15    where we're expecting a lot of new people to move 

16    in because of Micron, this is a very urgent 

17    issue.  

18                 So CNY Fair Housing decided to just 

19    compile a map, essentially, that showed where it 

20    was possible to build more housing.  And after 

21    laborious efforts and really kind of shocking 

22    discoveries about how little information local 

23    communities kept or made public about their 

24    zoning laws, what they found is that outside of 

25    the City of Syracuse, only 1 percent of the 


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 1    buildable land was zoned for multifamily housing, 

 2    so that it was going to require a huge effort not 

 3    just of filing zoning variances and that kind of 

 4    thing, but of local governments really rethinking 

 5    how they do land use, before the county could 

 6    even imagine having enough housing to address the 

 7    problems we're facing right now, let alone the 

 8    problems we expect to face five, 10, 15 years 

 9    into the future.

10                 So it isn't just a shortage of 

11    housing that we have, but a shortage of 

12    information about where it's possible to build 

13    housing, what kinds of housing projects are being 

14    allowed and welcomed in communities and what are 

15    not, and what kinds of policy changes might be 

16    needed either at the local level or at the state 

17    level to try to address that.

18                 And so I believe that before we 

19    spend billions of dollars on some of these 

20    efforts, we should know the landscape that we're 

21    dealing with.  And this is about having the data, 

22    having the information, making sure that 

23    everybody understands where we are and where we 

24    can go and where we need to go in this housing 

25    crisis.


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 1                 I vote aye.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 3    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Senator Martins to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.

 7                 Before coming to the Senate I had 

 8    the privilege of serving as mayor of the Village 

 9    of Mineola where we redid our master plan to 

10    allow for housing in our downtown.  

11                 And I'm happy to say, Mr. President, 

12    I probably have done more to build housing in 

13    downtown communities than anyone else perhaps 

14    probably in this chamber, as mayor of Mineola in 

15    those changes.  The Village of Mineola has built 

16    or approved over 2,000 housing units in the last 

17    10 years alone.

18                 So I understand perfectly well not 

19    only how you do it, Mr. President, but how you 

20    get to the result and actually get a shovel in 

21    the ground and get things built.

22                 What you don't do is undermine local 

23    communities and their ability to make those 

24    decisions for yourself.  And what you do do is 

25    you actually put money in the hands of those 


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 1    local communities to pay for the resources that 

 2    they need to commit to building housing.

 3                 So this bill interferes with local 

 4    communities and provides absolutely no support.  

 5    That's why I'm voting no.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 7    Martins to be recorded in the negative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 457, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

12    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

13    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

14    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

15    Weber and Weik.  Also Senator Ryan.

16                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 23.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

20    reading of today's calendar.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Is there any 

22    further business at the desk?

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

24    no further business at the desk.

25                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I move to adjourn 


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 1    until Monday, March 23rd, at 3:00 p.m., with 

 2    intervening days being legislative days.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

 4    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until Monday, 

 5    March 23rd, at 3:00 p.m., intervening days being 

 6    legislative.

 7                 (Whereupon, at 12:43 p.m., the 

 8    Senate adjourned.)

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