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11:06 AMRegular SessionALBANY, NEW YORK
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                                                               1933

 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   March 31, 2026

11                     11:06 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JAMAAL T. BAILEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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                                                               1934

 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    March 30, 2026, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, March 27, 

18    2026, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.  

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Reports of standing committees.


                                                               1935

 1                 Reports of select committees.

 2                 Communications and reports from 

 3    state officers.

 4                 Motions and resolutions.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good morning, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 There will be an immediate meeting 

 9    of the Rules Committee in Room 332.

10                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Immediate meeting 

11    of the Rules Committee in Room 332.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The Senate will 

13    stand at ease.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    Senate will stand at ease.

16                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

17    at 11:07 a.m.)

18                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

19    11:15 a.m.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

21    will return to order.

22                 Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

24    there's a report of the Rules Committee at the 

25    desk.  


                                                               1936

 1                 Can we take that up, please.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.  

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

 5    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

 6    reports the following bills:

 7                 Senate Print 9598, by 

 8    Senator Stavisky, an act to amend the 

 9    Public Health Law; 

10                 Senate Print 9599, by 

11    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

12    Insurance Law; 

13                 Senate Print 9630, by 

14    Senator Krueger, an act making appropriations 

15    for the support of government; 

16                 Senate Print 9631, by 

17    Senator Krueger, an act to amend Part U1 of 

18    Chapter 62 of the Laws of 2003.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

20    the report of the Rules Committee.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

22    in favor of accepting the report of the 

23    Rules Committee please signify by saying aye.

24                 (Response of "Aye.")

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 


                                                               1937

 1    nay.

 2                 (Response of "Nay.")

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The report 

 4    of the Rules Committee is accepted.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

 7    the supplemental calendar.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    660, Senate Print 9630, by Senator Krueger, an 

12    act making appropriations for the support of 

13    government.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there a 

15    message of necessity and appropriation at the 

16    desk?

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

18    message of necessity and appropriation at the 

19    desk.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

21    the message.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

23    in favor of accepting the message please signify 

24    by saying aye.

25                 (Response of "Aye.")


                                                               1938

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

 2    nay.  

 3                 (Response of "Nay.")

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    message is accepted, and the bill is before the 

 6    house.

 7                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is laid aside.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    661, Senate Print 9631, by Senator Krueger, an 

12    act to amend Part U1 of Chapter 62 of the Laws of 

13    2003.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there a 

15    message of necessity at the desk?  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

17    message of necessity at the desk.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

19    the message.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

21    in favor of accepting the message please signify 

22    by saying aye.

23                 (Response of "Aye.")

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

25    nay.


                                                               1939

 1                 (Response of "Nay.")

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    message is accepted, and the bill is before the 

 4    house.  

 5                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is laid aside.

 8                 Senator Gianaris, that is the end of 

 9    the supplemental calendar.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please go to the 

11    controversial calendar.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    Secretary will ring the bell.

14                 The Secretary will read.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    660, Senate Print 9630, by Senator Krueger, an 

17    act making appropriations for the support of 

18    government.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    O'Mara, why do you rise?

21                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  

23                 I just have a few questions on this 

24    extender bill that we have, if the Senator would 

25    yield.


                                                               1940

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Krueger, do you yield?  

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Absolutely.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    Senator yields.

 6                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 7    Senator.  And good morning.

 8                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Good morning.

 9                 SENATOR O'MARA:   This is our first 

10    extender of what has been a pattern of late 

11    budgets in recent years.  Can you just explain to 

12    us what -- I think we'll, if we can, talk about 

13    both of these bills on this debate rather than 

14    calling up the second one, if that's okay with 

15    you.

16                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I'm happy to, but 

17    I'm just double-checking one thing.

18                 (Off the record.)

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

20    I think we're taking up the extender bill first 

21    because of the time constraints, and then we'll 

22    be happy to take up questions on the other bill.

23                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Okay.  All right.  

24                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So you just get 

25    to ask me twice.  Okay?  


                                                               1941

 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Lovely.

 2                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  So on 

 3    this bill.  

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Yeah, on this 

 5    bill, Senator, what is actually being extended 

 6    here today?  How much is the dollar value of 

 7    what's being extended?  And when's it being 

 8    extended through?  

 9                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  Happy 

10    to answer that, Madam President.  

11                 This is an extender that totals 

12    approximately $1 billion, and it is to meet our 

13    payroll costs to allow certain payments of the 

14    Department of Health Medical Assistance 

15    Administration Program, the Department of Law, 

16    the Office for People With Developmental 

17    Disabilities, and the Department of Veterans' 

18    Services.  

19                 This will go through next Tuesday 

20    morning, the day after Easter Monday.  And I will 

21    tell you the date as soon as I -- there we go, 

22    April 7th.  

23                 And I have more specifics of what 

24    items are within that, but that's pretty much the 

25    explanation.


                                                               1942

 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 2    Senator.

 3                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

 4    continue to yield.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 6    continue to yield?  

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Of course.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    Senator yields.

10                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, this 

11    being the last day of the fiscal year, and doing 

12    our first extender here, can you enlighten us on 

13    where the Legislature and the Governor are in the 

14    process of these negotiations and what's left 

15    open to get a final budget here?

16                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

17    Madam President.  Quite a few things are left 

18    open, approximately the same number that we 

19    discussed last week when we did the budget debt 

20    bill.  

21                 So I don't know how long it's going 

22    to be.  I don't know how many more extenders 

23    there will be.  

24                 I do want to make sure everyone 

25    understands that the Governor decides what the 


                                                               1943

 1    extenders are.  That is not negotiated, so only 

 2    she knows what extenders she will put forward, 

 3    whether she will keep them as what we call clean 

 4    extenders, just continuing payments that are 

 5    already due.  

 6                 Because she technically has the 

 7    ability to put pretty much anything she decides 

 8    in extenders, which becomes a concern certainly 

 9    for us when she goes beyond just doing clean 

10    extenders to make sure people continue to get 

11    paid and our bills continue to get paid.

12                 But for now we are where we are.  We 

13    are hoping negotiations continue.  I do know that 

14    senior staff are having three-way discussions and 

15    leadership is having three-way discussions on a 

16    variety of topics, but I don't have any details 

17    of finalization on anything major.

18                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

19    Senator.  

20                 Through you, Madam President, if the 

21    Senator will continue to yield.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

23    continue to yield?  

24                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 


                                                               1944

 1    Senator yields.

 2                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, we had 

 3    the first and only joint conference committees on 

 4    the budget about three weeks ago, I think.  

 5    There's been no meetings since then.  

 6                 Are there any meetings of the joint 

 7    budget conference committees scheduled at this 

 8    point?  

 9                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   No, I don't 

10    believe there have been any announced follow-up 

11    meetings.

12                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

13    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

14    yield.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

16    continue to yield?  

17                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

19    Senator yields.

20                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Have there been 

21    any table targets put out there yet for any of 

22    the tables that are undecided?

23                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   No.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

25    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 


                                                               1945

 1    yield.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 3    continue to yield?  

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes, of course.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    Senator yields.

 7                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So, Senator, 

 8    without table targets then a lot of these issues 

 9    that may be less controversial and really more 

10    about how much you're going to spend on them, as 

11    opposed to what exactly the subject is, they 

12    can't even be negotiated or talked about at this 

13    point, really.  

14                 If they don't have a table target, 

15    they've got no numbers to work with.  Isn't that 

16    right?  

17                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   That is 

18    technically correct.  

19                 And it is my observation after 

20    25 years here that Governors choose to not 

21    discuss the smaller and perhaps more likely 

22    actions until they have finished negotiations on 

23    the larger, more controversial.

24                 So it might not be what I would do 

25    if I was the Governor, but I haven't been the 


                                                               1946

 1    Governor.  So that seems to be a consistent 

 2    pattern of Executives.

 3                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

 4    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

 5    yield.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 7    continue to yield?  

 8                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    Senator yields.

11                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, one of 

12    the major issues as we understand it is the 

13    Climate Law, the CLCPA, and some modifications, I 

14    think, primarily to the timeline on that.

15                 Can you tell us what the proposals 

16    are at this point of the Governor as far as 

17    trying to push this thing out?

18                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So we still don't 

19    think we have full language from the Governor of 

20    what she's actually proposing.  

21                 We have some language.  We have an 

22    op-ed she put out about a week and a few days 

23    before that, I guess Thursday a week ago.  But 

24    that's not really a budget proposal, it's an 

25    op-ed.


                                                               1947

 1                 We have rumored proposals.  We have 

 2    changes in plans by the Governor starting out 

 3    with her original argument that CLCPA was 

 4    increasing people's utility bills and then an 

 5    admission that CLCPA had nothing to do with the 

 6    increased cost of our utility bills.  

 7                 Although now that we're in Week 4 of 

 8    the war in the Middle East, that seems to be 

 9    having quite a bit of an impact on costs of oil 

10    and natural gas.

11                 So I wish I could tell you there was 

12    a specific proposal in writing to share with 

13    everyone, but we don't have one.

14                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.  

15                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

16    continue to yield.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

18    continue to yield?

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    Senator yields.

22                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, you 

23    mentioned utility bills and people's concerns 

24    over them.  I think we're all hearing from our 

25    constituents on that.  


                                                               1948

 1                 What proposals are out there that 

 2    are being negotiated to help lower people's 

 3    utility bills?  

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So our one-house 

 5    proposal had quite a few suggested changes that 

 6    we do believe would lower our utility bills.  

 7                 Actually, the current president up 

 8    front has a number of proposals that would 

 9    specifically lower utility bills, Senator Mayer's 

10    bills, we included in our one-house.  

11                 I have bills that would put 

12    moratoriums on the building of energy -- excuse 

13    me, not of energy plants, of AI plants and 

14    cryptocurrency plants, because they are using up 

15    an enormous amount of energy.  They get discounts 

16    and even tax exemptions because of the sort of 

17    as-of-right categories they fall under, so that 

18    they are skyrocketing use of energy at lower 

19    cost, requiring us all as ratepayers to pay more 

20    because they are using so much.  

21                 And once their factories are built, 

22    they basically have nobody who works in them, 

23    it's all computer.  So they don't create jobs 

24    even though they eat up our energy at huge 

25    discounted costs.  And if we just stop them from 


                                                               1949

 1    going forward, we would significantly reduce the 

 2    rate of growth of utility costs.

 3                 And quite a few other states are 

 4    going down the same road.  We would like to go 

 5    down that road also, but we need bills passed or 

 6    included in the budget package.  

 7                 We are seeing that the states that 

 8    are doing the most successfully with moving to 

 9    green energy are actually seeing lowering of 

10    their utility costs.  So wind, hydroelectric 

11    energy, solar, these are the models that are 

12    working very effectively.  

13                 And perhaps the most promising, but 

14    we need legislation to move it forward, is 

15    battery storage that is basically creating a 

16    revolution around the world for improved access 

17    to and use of and cost of sustainable energy.

18                 So we think there are quite a few 

19    proposals we could be speeding along within our 

20    budget that would immediately offer reductions in 

21    costs.

22                 We also have called for increased 

23    money being spent for discount costs for 

24    low-income and middle-income utility ratepayers.

25                 So there's I'm going to say a good 


                                                               1950

 1    10 proposals that we could see going into effect 

 2    immediately that could have significant impact on 

 3    our utility costs for ratepayers, particularly 

 4    individual consumers.

 5                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 6    Senator.

 7                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

 8    continue to yield.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

10    continue to yield?  

11                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    Senator yields.

14                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So is it the 

15    position of the Senate Majority that the state 

16    should be opposed to the development of AI data 

17    storage facilities and we're just going to let 

18    other states run with it?

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So our 

20    recommendation is a moratorium for three years to 

21    allow the state time to create and evaluate 

22    standards for when things are approved or not 

23    approved.  

24                 And again, to remind people that 

25    quite a few states are making the same decision, 


                                                               1951

 1    because they don't create jobs.  AI would still 

 2    be manufactured somewhere and be used here in 

 3    New York.  So there's no loss of our use of AI 

 4    or, honestly, crypto -- although personally I 

 5    advise against anyone using crypto.  

 6                 And it will not impact the jobs or 

 7    the economic activity from AI.  We just wouldn't 

 8    be blowing up our energy demand and sort of doing 

 9    damage to our natural resources, water as well as 

10    our energy grid, by not using it up on these yet 

11    to be even justified plants.

12                 But it would not end it per se.  It 

13    would be a moratorium so that the state could 

14    come up with a mechanism to evaluate and to 

15    decide which have justification, which don't, 

16    what areas might make more or less sense to build 

17    them in.

18                 Right now there's almost no one 

19    making any determination in planning for the 

20    state or in answering the questions how much 

21    energy are they using, where will we get that 

22    energy, and how much more will it continue to 

23    drive up our utility costs.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

25    Senator.


                                                               1952

 1                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

 2    continue to yield.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 4    continue to yield?  

 5                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    Senator yields.

 8                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, you 

 9    mentioned several proposals that your side of the 

10    aisle has on potential ways to help people with 

11    their utility bills.  

12                 We have several -- many proposals on 

13    this side of the aisle, a couple of which would 

14    provide immediate relief to utility ratepayers in 

15    returning unspent clean energy surcharges that 

16    have been on the bills for CLCPA.  And those 

17    surcharges that are held by both NYSERDA and the 

18    utilities themselves, because NYSERDA hasn't 

19    asked them to send it over yet, of about 

20    $3 trillion that could go -- $3 billion, excuse 

21    me, that could go back to the ratepayers.  I 

22    don't hear you discussing that.  

23                 And there's a proposal for a tax 

24    holiday on utility bills for the taxes and those 

25    surcharges I mentioned.  Are those under 


                                                               1953

 1    consideration by your side of the aisle?

 2                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I don't think 

 3    either of those proposals were included in our 

 4    one-house.

 5                 You know, I will point out part of 

 6    the catch of saying you're going to give back 

 7    money that has been collected from ratepayers for 

 8    specific purposes, as we know particularly on 

 9    anything capital, those monies often get built in 

10    to be spent over an extended period of time.

11                 So one of the debates I think both 

12    sides of the aisle have had is the money that is 

13    raised through utility taxes, will it be used for 

14    green energy or a continuation of fossil fuel 

15    infrastructure?  The truth is our infrastructure 

16    for fossil fuel is very old, quite damaged, needs 

17    replacement either with green energy or a 

18    continued replacement of the fossil fuel 

19    infrastructure.  

20                 The money costs show it's much more 

21    expensive to rebuild our fossil fuel 

22    infrastructure versus building a new green 

23    infrastructure.  So I would make the case you 

24    have real costs for going either direction.  

25    We're far better off, and it's cheaper and it's 


                                                               1954

 1    much safer, to go with green infrastructure.  

 2                 But it doesn't mean that you get off 

 3    free and you can't -- excuse me, and you can 

 4    possibly give back every dollar you've been 

 5    raising into a 21st-century infrastructure and 

 6    grid expansion.  We need all that.  

 7                 I just personally hope that we spend 

 8    that money much more effectively on green 

 9    infrastructure, not rebuilding a failed model of 

10    fossil fuels.

11                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

12    Senator.

13                 On the bill, Madam President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    O'Mara on the bill.

16                 SENATOR O'MARA:   This is the first 

17    extender bill of this budget season, to get us 

18    through the next week.  

19                 I will be supporting this bill, as 

20    we're early in the process and I certainly 

21    understand the significance of the religious 

22    holidays that we have over this coming weekend 

23    and the impact of those on individuals' lives.  

24                 But there's -- very concerning to 

25    me -- a lack of urgency in moving this budget 


                                                               1955

 1    forward.  In fact, if there's no specific 

 2    proposals by the Governor to the Legislature on 

 3    changes to the climate laws that are in place, no 

 4    specific language from the Governor on how 

 5    utility bills are going to be lowered so that 

 6    individuals in their homes can pay those, 

 7    particularly senior citizens -- we have AARP out 

 8    in the hallway right now lobbying on efforts to 

 9    lower utility bills.  And it's of primary 

10    importance to our constituents that we provide 

11    some relief on the expensive cost of living in 

12    New York.

13                 It just seems to me that while 

14    everybody talks about affordability, everything 

15    that comes out of this Legislature makes 

16    everything more expensive.

17                 Thank you, Madam President.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

19    Senator O'Mara.

20                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

21    to be heard?

22                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

23    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

24                 There's a substitution at the desk.  

25                 The Secretary will read.


                                                               1956

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Krueger 

 2    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 3    Assembly Bill Number 10760 and substitute it for 

 4    the identical Senate Bill 9630, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 660.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    substitution is so ordered.

 8                 The Secretary will read.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    660, Assembly Bill Number 10760, by 

11    Assemblymember Pretlow, an act making 

12    appropriations for the support of government.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 12.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 There's a substitution at the desk.  


                                                               1957

 1                 The Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Krueger 

 3    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 4    Assembly Bill Number 10761 and substitute it for 

 5    the identical Senate Bill Number 9631, Third 

 6    Reading Calendar 661.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    substitution is so ordered.

 9                 The Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    661, Assembly Bill Number 10761, by 

12    Assemblymember Pretlow, an act to amend Part U1 

13    of Chapter 62 of the Laws of 2003.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    O'Mara, why do you rise?

16                 SENATOR O'MARA:   If the Senator 

17    would yield for a question, Madam President.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

19    Krueger, do you yield?  

20                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I do.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

22    Senator yields.

23                 SENATOR O'MARA:   I just have one 

24    question on this extender here for the DMV 

25    continuing their operations and able to collect 


                                                               1958

 1    our fees that our constituents so love to pay -- 

 2    that this extender is going out for two years.  

 3                 Why not just for the period of this 

 4    extension?

 5                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 6    Madam President.  I believe that the Governor's 

 7    request for a two-year extender is because we've 

 8    been doing this at two years at a time, and that 

 9    if you're going to establish fees -- or this 

10    doesn't create any new fees, it continues 

11    existing fees that you don't necessarily want to 

12    tell people we're continuing fees for another 

13    week and a half, and then stay tuned.

14                 Usually these kind of fees are 

15    charged on an annual basis or at the time you're 

16    buying or reregistering or reinspecting your 

17    vehicle.  So I think it would probably just be a 

18    bit of a nightmare if we set up a moving target 

19    perhaps of a week or two at a time.  And it just 

20    is practically more efficient and fair to 

21    everyone to just tell them, okay, usually these 

22    are charged at an annual or biannual basis, and 

23    this is going to be the amount for the next two 

24    years, and just get it done that way.

25                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 


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 1    Senator.

 2                 On the bill.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 4    O'Mara on the bill.

 5                 SENATOR O'MARA:   You know, it's 

 6    concerning to me that we are putting this out 

 7    two years while the budget isn't set.  

 8                 You know, the explanation of that's 

 9    the way we've always done it is far too common of 

10    an explanation around this place.  

11                 And we shouldn't be putting things 

12    out at this point with no budget in place and no 

13    specific policy in writing is my take on this, 

14    that nothing should be extended further than the 

15    length of the other extender we did.

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

18    Senator O'Mara.

19                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

20    to be heard?

21                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

22    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

23                 Read the last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 661, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, 

 9    Helming, Lanza, Martins, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

10    Stec, Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator Tedisco.

11                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 13.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

15    reading of the controversial calendar.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 We're going to return to motions and 

19    resolutions.  

20                 At this time I move to adopt the 

21    Resolution Calendar, with the exception of 

22    Resolutions 1821 and 1823.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

24    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

25    with the exception of Resolutions 1821 and 1823, 


                                                               1961

 1    please signify by saying aye.

 2                 (Response of "Aye.")

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

 4    nay.

 5                 (No response.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's begin with 

10    Resolution 1821, by Senator Ramos, have its title 

11    read and call on Senator Ramos, please.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1821, by 

13    Senator Ramos, memorializing Governor Kathy 

14    Hochul to proclaim March 31, 2026, as 

15    Farmworkers Day in the State of New York.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

17    Ramos on the resolution.  

18                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 You know, before any of us woke up 

21    this morning there were already people across 

22    New York doing very important work.  Those people 

23    are farmworkers.  These men and women rise before 

24    dawn, they work through heat and cold, they bend, 

25    they lift, they harvest, and they carry the food 


                                                               1962

 1    that ends up on every one of our tables.

 2                 Their work isn't just essential, 

 3    it's foundational.  There is no food system 

 4    without farmworkers.  There's no economy without 

 5    farmworkers, there's no daily life in this state 

 6    without farmworkers.  

 7                 And yet for generations they were 

 8    excluded from the most basic protections that 

 9    other workers in New York State sometimes take 

10    for granted.  Not by accident, but by design.  

11                 But farmworkers didn't accept that 

12    quietly.  They organized, they spoke up, they 

13    demanded to be seen.

14                 And there's some history here, of 

15    course.  From Chicano organizers like 

16    Dolores Huerta to Filipino organizers like 

17    Larry Itliong, who built the foundation of the 

18    farmworker movement, they showed us what dignity 

19    in action looks like.  

20                 And that movement is still very much 

21    alive today in the work of the United Farm 

22    Workers and RWDSU, who continue to organize and 

23    raise standards for farmworkers here in New York 

24    State.

25                 Farmworkers carried this fight for 


                                                               1963

 1    decades, and I'm proud to have been part of the 

 2    moment when Albany finally listened in 2019 and 

 3    passed the Farmworker Fair Labor Practices Act.  

 4    That law finally recognized what should have 

 5    always been true, that farmworkers are workers 

 6    and that their dignity is not negotiable.  

 7                 But passing a law is not the end of 

 8    the story, because having rights on paper only 

 9    matters if they are real in practice:  If wages 

10    are fair, if conditions are safe, if workers can 

11    speak up without fear.  

12                 And we also have to be honest about 

13    something else.  We talk a lot about the cost of 

14    food in this state, but we don't talk enough 

15    about the cost of labor behind that food.  You 

16    can't have cheap food and exploited workers at 

17    the same time and call that a fair system.  If we 

18    want affordability, it can't come on the backs of 

19    the very people who feed us.  

20                 And today many of those workers are 

21    immigrants, people who come here to work, to 

22    provide, to build a better life, and who too 

23    often live with fear.  They feel fear of speaking 

24    up, fear of retaliation, fear of being targeted 

25    simply for showing up to do their jobs.


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 1                 We've seen how far that fear can 

 2    show up in our communities across our state.  And 

 3    that should be of concern to all of us.  Because 

 4    a food system that depends on fear is not a 

 5    stable system.  It's not a just system.  And it's 

 6    not worthy of New York.

 7                 So today, as we recognize 

 8    Farmworkers Day, we do more than honor their 

 9    labor.  We acknowledge our responsibility.  

10    Because the people who feed us should never be 

11    invisible.  They should never be exploited, and 

12    they should never feel like they've been left 

13    behind.  If we value the people who sustain us, 

14    then our laws, our enforcement and our priorities 

15    must reflect that.  

16                 Today we honor farmworkers across 

17    New York and recommit ourselves to making sure 

18    that dignity, fairness and respect are not 

19    promises, but guarantees.

20                 And today, Madam President, we are 

21    joined by Maria Martinez and Prijenett Flores.  

22    They are both organizers who are carrying on the 

23    legacy of Dolores Huerta out in the fields of 

24    New York and are here representing all 

25    farmworkers and organizers.  


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 1                 I ask that you welcome them to our 

 2    house.  

 3                 And with that I vote aye, 

 4    Madam President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 6    Senator Ramos.

 7                 Senator May on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 9    Madam President.  

10                 I want to thank Senator Ramos for 

11    this resolution and for recognizing the very 

12    important work that farmworkers do for all of us.  

13    We would not have affordable food to put on our 

14    tables if it wasn't for the farmworkers doing 

15    this work.  

16                 I proudly represent Cayuga County, 

17    which has the most dairy production of any county 

18    in the state, and dairy workers in particular 

19    work year-round, day in and day out.  It's hard 

20    work and often dangerous work being around large 

21    animals.  And I have visited a lot of the farms 

22    in my district and seen how hard they work and 

23    what good care they take of the animals.  

24                 But year-round workers often don't 

25    have the kind of protections that H-2B visas give 


                                                               1966

 1    to temporary workers who come here.  And so we 

 2    are hearing from farmers in my district who are 

 3    terrified about deportations or trying to track 

 4    what has happened to some of the farmworkers that 

 5    they really value very highly.

 6                 I think one of the reasons we're 

 7    seeing food prices go up is because we are seeing 

 8    labor becoming more scarce and some of the 

 9    farmworkers frankly afraid to show up for work, 

10    or the farmers holding church services and that 

11    kind of thing in their own homes so their workers 

12    don't have to leave the farms.  

13                 It's a terrifying time for 

14    farmworkers and for the employers who care about 

15    them in my district.  And so I think it's doubly 

16    important at this moment in history that we lift 

17    our farmworkers up and give them the respect they 

18    deserve.  

19                 I vote aye.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

21    Senator May.

22                 To our guests who are here on behalf 

23    of Farmworkers Day, we welcome you on behalf of 

24    the Senate.  We extend to you the privileges and 

25    courtesies of the house.  


                                                               1967

 1                 Please rise and be recognized.

 2                 (Standing ovation.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 4    Gianaris.

 5                 Oh, the question is on the 

 6    resolution.  All those in favor please signify by 

 7    saying aye.

 8                 (Response of "Aye.")

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

10    nay.

11                 (No response.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    resolution is adopted.

14                 Senator Gianaris.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's move on to 

16    Resolution 1823, by Senator Zellner, 

17    Jeremy Zellner.  Read that resolution's title and 

18    recognize Senator Zellner, please.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1823, by 

22    Senator Zellner, memorializing Governor Kathy 

23    Hochul to proclaim March 20, 2026, as 

24    Behavior Analysis Day in the State of New York, 

25    in conjunction with the observance of World 


                                                               1968

 1    Behavior Analysis Day.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 3    Zellner on the resolution.  

 4                 SENATOR ZELLNER:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 And thank you, Senator Gianaris, for 

 7    clarifying which Jeremy we're talking about here.

 8                 I rise today to recognize March 20th 

 9    as World Behavior Analysis Day and to highlight 

10    the important role that applied behavior analysis 

11    plays in improving our lives and our communities.  

12                 Applied behavior analysis, or ABA, 

13    is a research-based approach grounded in the 

14    science of human behavior.  It helps individuals 

15    build new skills, strengthen positive behaviors, 

16    and navigate challenges in ways that improve 

17    quality of life.

18                 While ABA is widely recognized for 

19    its impact on individuals with developmental 

20    disabilities, including many diagnosed with 

21    autism, its reach extends far beyond that into 

22    education, healthcare, human services, 

23    rehabilitation, and even the workplace.

24                 For many children and families, ABA 

25    has made a meaningful and lasting difference -- 


                                                               1969

 1    opening doors, creating opportunities, and 

 2    providing support rooted in compassion and 

 3    evidence-based care.  

 4                 Today I offer this resolution in 

 5    recognition of the children and families whose 

 6    lives have been positively impacted, the 

 7    professionals who provide this critical support, 

 8    the parents who provide this critical support, 

 9    the parents and the other family members and the 

10    dedicated educators at Daemen University, in my 

11    district, who are preparing the next generation 

12    of leaders in this field.

13                 Thank you, Madam President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

15    Senator Zellner.

16                 The question is on the resolution.  

17                 All those in favor please signify by 

18    saying aye.

19                 (Response of "Aye.")

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

21    nay.

22                 (No response.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

24    resolution is adopted.

25                 Senator Gianaris.


                                                               1970

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 2    the sponsors of today's resolutions would like to 

 3    open them for cosponsorship.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

 6    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 

 7    the desk.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please call on 

10    Senator Comrie for an introduction.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

12    Comrie for an introduction.

13                 SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 We are again this year joined -- as 

16    we've done for the last couple of years, 

17    Assemblymember Hyndman, Assemblymember Anderson, 

18    Senator Stavisky, Senator John Liu -- we have 

19    young children from the presidents of the 

20    different schools in District 29 in here today to 

21    visit Albany.  

22                 They are moving into both sides of 

23    the gallery to be greeted.  They have come up in 

24    the rain, so they're a little delayed.  And we 

25    are earlier than expected today, so they are 


                                                               1971

 1    moving a little faster.  But they are adjusting, 

 2    as we all are today.

 3                 We've been proud for the last couple 

 4    of years to bring these young people up.  These 

 5    young people are actually the presidents or civic 

 6    leaders in their schools.  They're interested in 

 7    government and politics, they're interested in 

 8    how the world works.  They're going to be moving 

 9    around today to visit different locations in the 

10    Capitol and our offices.  They're going to be on 

11    the Third Floor Terrace if anybody would like to 

12    stop by and say hello and introduce yourselves to 

13    them if you have a minute.  Since we all have a 

14    little extra time today, I hope some of you can 

15    find it in your hearts to stop by and say hello 

16    to them.

17                 Now, it's important that as 

18    legislators we try to impact children as much as 

19    possible, give you something to understand and 

20    appreciate.  I want to welcome them to our 

21    beautiful chambers and this session.  We 

22    have both -- they're here and they're here.  So 

23    they're everywhere, so it's all good.  

24                 I'm not sure what teachers came 

25    today because I was running to make it here for 


                                                               1972

 1    conference.  But as I look and see the faces of 

 2    our young children -- was that a different 

 3    school?  

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR COMRIE:   Anyhow, there are 

 6    young people on both sides of the gallery.  

 7                 And whatever we do as legislators, 

 8    we should make sure that young people understand, 

 9    appreciate civics and government.  As some of you 

10    know, I've been trying to get civics back in our 

11    schools.  It's important that we teach civics, 

12    important that we teach history.  It's important 

13    that our people understand all aspects of our 

14    great state.

15                 So thank you, Madam President, for 

16    allowing me to take a minute to recognize them.  

17    And if everyone could please give them the 

18    privileges of the house.  

19                 Thank you, young people, for coming 

20    up in the rain today, and I hope you have a great 

21    day.

22                 Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

24    Senator Comrie.  

25                 I'm going to wait until every one of 


                                                               1973

 1    our students has the opportunity to come into the 

 2    gallery so they can be acknowledged and 

 3    appreciated.  Is that the end of the line, 

 4    Mr. Sergeant-at-Arms?  Yes?  Okay.  

 5                 To all of our students who are 

 6    visiting today from Queens, we welcome you on 

 7    behalf of the Senate.  We're so pleased you're 

 8    here to watch the privileges and see the 

 9    operations of the Senate and to see how 

10    government works here in Albany.

11                 Please be -- you're given all the 

12    privileges and cordialities of the house.  Please 

13    rise and be recognized.  Please stand and be 

14    recognized.

15                 (Standing ovation.)

16                 SENATOR MAYER:   Senator Gianaris.

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

18    I should note that there were other members from 

19    Queens, particularly, that also wanted to share 

20    in that welcome message for this group of 

21    students, but our practice here in the Senate 

22    only allows one member per introduction.  

23                 So just know that you are loved by 

24    more than Senator Comrie.  But he's also a great 

25    representative.  


                                                               1974

 1                 Is there any further business at the 

 2    desk?

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is 

 4    no further business at the desk.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

 6    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, April 1st, at 

 7    11:00 a.m.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senate is 

 9    adjourned until tomorrow, April 1st, at 

10    11:00 a.m.  On motion, the Senate stands 

11    adjourned until tomorrow at 11:00 a.m.

12                 (Whereupon, at 11:52 a.m., the 

13    Senate adjourned.)

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