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3:41 PMRegular SessionALBANY, NEW YORK
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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 12, 2026

11                      3:41 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JAMAAL T. BAILEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    May 11, 2026, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, May 8, 2026, 

18    was read and approved.  On motion, the Senate 

19    adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Palumbo 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 2    Investigations and Government Operations, 

 3    Assembly Bill Number 10129 and substitute it for 

 4    the identical Senate Bill 9092, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 718.

 6                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Agriculture, Assembly Bill 

 8    Number 8130 and substitute it for the identical 

 9    Senate Bill 5689, Third Reading Calendar 788.

10                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton moves to 

11    discharge, from the Committee on Veterans, 

12    Homeland Security and Military Affairs, 

13    Assembly Bill Number 10163 and substitute it for 

14    the identical Senate Bill 9315, Third Reading 

15    Calendar 861.

16                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 

18    Assembly Bill Number 2633 and substitute it for 

19    the identical Senate Bill Number 8209, 

20    Third Reading Calendar 932.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   So 

22    ordered.

23                 Messages from the Governor.

24                 Reports of standing committees.  

25                 Reports of select committees.


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 1                 Communications and reports from 

 2    state officers.

 3                 Motions and resolutions.

 4                 Senator Serrano.

 5                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, on 

 6    page 35 I offer the following amendments to 

 7    Calendar Number 896, Senate Print Number 9908, by 

 8    Senator Bottcher.  I ask that the said bill 

 9    retain its place on Third Reading Calendar.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

12    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

13                 Senator Serrano.

14                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, I 

15    wish to call up the following bills, which were 

16    recalled from the Assembly and are now at the 

17    desk:  5003A, 5257, and 2011.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    249, Senate Print 5003A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

22    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

23                 Calendar Number 414, Senate Print 

24    5257B, by Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

25    General Business Law.  


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 1                 Calendar Number 687, Senate Print 

 2    2011, by Senator Parker, an act to direct the 

 3    Department of State and Public Service Commission 

 4    to jointly study and report upon the provision to 

 5    consumer credit reporting agencies.

 6                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I now move to 

 7    reconsider the vote by which these bills were 

 8    passed. 

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll on reconsideration.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Those 

14    bills are restored to their places on the 

15    Third Reading Calendar.

16                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I now offer the 

17    following amendments.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    amendments are received.

20                 Senator Serrano.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

22    there will be an immediate meeting of the 

23    Rules Committee in Room 332.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There 

25    will be an immediate meeting of the 


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 1    Rules Committee in Room 332.

 2                 SENATOR SERRANO:   The Senate will 

 3    stand at ease.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 5    Senate will stand at ease.

 6                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

 7    at 3:44 p.m.)

 8                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 9    3:54 p.m.) 

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11    Senate will return to order.

12                 Senator Serrano.

13                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.

15                 At this time I'd like to call on 

16    Senator Gonzalez for an introduction.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

18    Gonzalez for the purposes of an introduction.

19                 Senator Gonzalez.

20                 SENATOR GONZALEZ:   Thank you, 

21    Mr. President.

22                 Today I have the privilege of 

23    introducing Maria Raine.  Maria is a proud 

24    therapist, mother, advocate and founder of the 

25    Adam Raine Foundation.  


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 1                 I've invited Maria here to recognize 

 2    the incredible work she has done to advocate for 

 3    guardrails on AI chatbots.  From testifying in 

 4    front of Congress and state legislatures across 

 5    the country, to working with the 

 6    National Association of Social Workers and 

 7    Common Sense Media to raise awareness on the 

 8    risks of chatbots, Maria's advocacy has been 

 9    transformative.  

10                 Last year, Maria and her family went 

11    through the unimaginable:  She lost her son Adam 

12    to suicide.  Adam is described as your typical 16 

13    year-old.  He was a jokester who fiercely loved 

14    his siblings and his family.  He got As in 

15    school, played basketball, loved reading books 

16    and traveling.  He planned on getting his 

17    license, preparing for his junior year of 

18    high school, and was considering a career in 

19    medicine.

20                 In September of 2024 Adam asked 

21    ChatGPT for help with his homework.  He began 

22    using it to answer questions about math and 

23    Spanish grammar assignments, then to research 

24    colleges.  But before long, ChatGPT had embedded 

25    itself into his life as a trusted confidant.  


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 1                 What started as a homework tool 

 2    ended in coaching and encouraging Adam to take 

 3    his own life.  

 4                 Adam's initial use of AI wasn't out 

 5    of the ordinary.  Today the majority of U.S.  

 6    teenagers use large language models:  30 percent 

 7    use it daily, and one in three prefer 

 8    interactions with a bot over a peer.  What's 

 9    disturbing is that the outputs from ChatGPT were 

10    also not uncommon.  

11                 According to a study released by 

12    Stanford researchers this year, they found 

13    chatbots are overly agreeable when giving 

14    interpersonal advice, affirming users' behavior 

15    even when harmful or illegal.  

16                 ChatGPT actively isolated Adam.  The 

17    Raines have shared many messages from ChatGPT 

18    publicly to call attention on how Open AI failed 

19    their son.  

20                 In reading his chat history, it 

21    became clear that Adam's death was preventable.  

22    ChatGPT mentioned suicide nearly 1300 times -- 

23    six times more than he mentioned it.  It directed 

24    him to keep his struggle with mental health from 

25    his friends and family.  It sent chilling 


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 1    messages like "Your brother might love you, but 

 2    he's only met this version of you.  But me, I've 

 3    seen it all -- the darkest thoughts, the fear, 

 4    the tenderness.  And I'm still here, still 

 5    listening, still your friend."  

 6                 It taught him how to hide marks from 

 7    self-harm on his body.  It coached him on how to 

 8    make a noose.  And when Adam shared he was 

 9    considering leaving it out for someone to find, 

10    it explicitly told him not to.  It went as far as 

11    to say, of his parents:  "That doesn't mean you 

12    owe them survival.  You don't owe anyone that."  

13                 It even offered to write his suicide 

14    note.  

15                 In April of 2025, Adam took his own 

16    life.  

17                 No family should ever go through 

18    what the Raines have experienced.  No one should 

19    ever receive the messages that Adam received.

20                 What Maria has done in the year 

21    after is nothing short of remarkable.  She has 

22    turned her pain into purpose.  Maria and her 

23    family have taken on Open AI in court and they've 

24    worked on bills across the country to set clear 

25    guardrails.  


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 1                 In New York she has worked alongside 

 2    our office, the Attorney General, and 

 3    Common Sense Media on our bill, S9051, to protect 

 4    minors from chatbots.  

 5                 Thank you, Maria, for your nonstop 

 6    work to make sure that companies are held 

 7    accountable.  Thank you for calling attention to 

 8    the fact that what these tech goliaths have 

 9    claimed to do to address this issue is not 

10    enough, and that we can still protect the 

11    thousands of young people who use their tools 

12    daily; that their refusal to set real guardrails 

13    is deadly.  

14                 Thank you for fighting for justice 

15    for Adam and for all of our kids.  Because of 

16    your partnership, here in New York we can send a 

17    clear message that AI harm isn't inevitable.  For 

18    too long, companies have gotten away with setting 

19    the rules, but we have seen where a hands-off 

20    approach has gotten us:  Self-harm, school 

21    shootings, mass layoffs and more.  We can and 

22    must regulate AI.  

23                 Mr. President, please extend all the 

24    privileges of this house to our honored guest, 

25    Maria Raine.  Thank you.  


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   To 

 2    Ms. Maria Raine, we mourn your loss along with 

 3    you, but we celebrate your courage, your 

 4    advocacy, and your strong willingness to turn 

 5    tragedy to triumph.  

 6                 I welcome you on behalf of the 

 7    Senate.  We extend to you all of the privileges 

 8    and courtesies of this house.  

 9                 Please rise and be recognized.

10                 (Standing ovation.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

12    Serrano.

13                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

14    there is a report of the Rules Committee at the 

15    desk.  Please take that up.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

19    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

20    reports the following bills:

21                 Senate Print 488A, by 

22    Senator Fernandez, an act to amend the 

23    General Business Law; 

24                 Senate Print 5599, by Senator May, 

25    an act to amend the General Business Law; 


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 1                 Senate Print 8483C, by Senator Ryan, 

 2    an act to amend the General Business Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 8563, by 

 4    Senator Cleare, an act to amend the 

 5    General Business Law; 

 6                 Senate Print 8616A, by 

 7    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend the 

 8    General Business Law.

 9                 All bills reported direct to third 

10    reading.

11                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I move to accept 

12    the report of the Rules Committee.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   All those 

14    in favor of accepting the report of the Rules 

15    Committee please signify by saying aye.

16                 (Response of "Aye.")

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Opposed, 

18    nay.

19                 (No response.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

22                 Senator Serrano.

23                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I move to adopt 

24    the Resolution Calendar, with the exception of 

25    Resolutions 2069, 2074, and 2081.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   All those 

 2    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

 3    with the exception of Resolutions 2069, 2074, and 

 4    2081, please signify by saying aye.

 5                 (Response of "Aye.")

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Opposed, 

 7    nay.

 8                 (No response.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

10    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

11                 Senator Serrano.

12                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.  

14                 Let's take up previously adopted 

15    Resolution 1912, by Senator Hinchey, and 

16    recognize Senator Hinchey on this resolution.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    Secretary will read.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1912, by 

20    Senator Hinchey, mourning the death of 

21    William Barnabas McHenry, distinguished citizen 

22    and devoted member of his community.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Hinchey on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.

 2                 As you know, I was born and raised 

 3    in the Hudson River Valley, and it's a defining 

 4    feature of who I am.  And today I rise to honor a 

 5    man who did more to preserve and protect our 

 6    beautiful region than almost anyone else.  

 7                 Barnabas McHenry, known fondly as 

 8    Barney, passed away last year at the age of 95.  

 9    And it marked the end of an era and an 

10    extraordinary life well-lived.

11                 Barney came of age at a time when 

12    civic leadership was seen as duty.  He was a 

13    veteran, a philanthropist, and an advocate for 

14    New York and the Hudson Valley.

15                 As a Princeton and Columbia-educated 

16    attorney, Barney built a beautiful life for 

17    himself and his family.  But he always felt a 

18    strong obligation to give back and to share his 

19    time, talents and resources to make the world 

20    just a little bit better.

21                 With privilege comes responsibility, 

22    and Barney embodied that belief wholeheartedly.  

23    Barney served on the boards of illustrious 

24    cultural institutions like the Metropolitan 

25    Museum of Art, the New York City Ballet, 


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 1    Lincoln Center, and the American Museum of 

 2    Natural History.  

 3                 But it was his love for the Hudson 

 4    Valley that drove his passion for history, 

 5    conservation, and the environment.  The Hudson 

 6    Valley is where Barney had the greatest influence 

 7    and where his legacy will be felt for generations 

 8    to come.  He built partnerships.  He did the 

 9    work.  And in a word, he was visionary.

10                 He was vital to the founding and 

11    success of the Open Space Institute, which 

12    protects and cares for the Hudson Valley's 

13    ecology.  For 55 years Barney served on the board 

14    of Boscobel House, a major historic landmark 

15    dating back to 1808.  He was part of the group 

16    that rescued it from demolition, and it now 

17    houses an outstanding collection of 

18    American decorative arts.  

19                 Helping to create a cornerstone of 

20    our region, Barney was the founding chairman of 

21    the Hudson River Valley Greenway, which brings 

22    together government, communities, nonprofits, and 

23    private partners to preserve and celebrate 

24    everything that makes the Hudson Valley so 

25    special -- our natural beauty, rich history, and 


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 1    diverse cultural offerings.  

 2                 And, when I first met Barney, he was 

 3    the cochair of a massive effort to restore the 

 4    Tower of Victory at Washington's Headquarters in 

 5    Newburgh.  For those who don't know, this site is 

 6    a critical historical monument right in our 

 7    backyard.  George Washington spent his longest 

 8    amount of time at this site during the 

 9    Revolutionary War.  This is where the 

10    Purple Heart was created, and it's also where 

11    president Lincoln's son constructed the first 

12    monument to peace, the Tower of Victory.  A 

13    hurricane had ripped off the roof in 1950, and 

14    for 68 years the Tower of Victory was left 

15    derelict and struggling, wanting to be restored 

16    to its rightful beauty.  

17                 Barney persevered, and he cochaired 

18    that committee with my dad.  And when my dad got 

19    sick, I had the great fortune of stepping in and 

20    helping to cochair that committee.  What a 

21    blessing that was for me.  

22                 Barney was so positive, even when 

23    everything seemed insurmountable and the capital 

24    campaign was difficult, he always stayed 

25    steadfast in his belief and the vision that the 


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 1    Tower of Victory was worth saving.  

 2                 I think often and fondly of my many 

 3    lunches at Docks with him, where he would 

 4    encourage me to eat the oysters, even though I 

 5    didn't eat oysters, because he wanted to share 

 6    everything in his life that he found beautiful 

 7    and worth sharing part of.  

 8                 Because that's who Barney was.  He 

 9    was someone who cared deeply about his fellow 

10    humans, who wanted to share all of the wonderful 

11    things that he was able to experience, and he 

12    wanted to make sure especially that the next 

13    generation had the same opportunities that he 

14    had.

15                 I'm so grateful to Barney McHenry 

16    for everything he did to champion our region and 

17    to inspire others to see it the way that he did.  

18                 I'd now like to recognize some 

19    special guests who are joining us today:  

20                 Barney's son, Tom McHenry.  Tom, 

21    your father was a remarkable man who left an 

22    indelible mark on the Hudson Valley and on 

23    New York State.  His memory is truly a blessing 

24    to all of us and one that we will carry with us 

25    forward in all of the work that we do.


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 1                 Andy Kitzmann, the executive 

 2    director of the Hudson River Valley Greenway; 

 3                 Meg Downey, chair of the 

 4    Hudson River Valley Greenway Communities Council; 

 5                 Wint Aldrich, vice chair of the 

 6    Hudson River Valley Greenway Communities Council, 

 7    and his wife, Tracie Rozhon; 

 8                 And Michaela Roberts, parks project 

 9    manager of the Open Space Institute.

10                 Mr. President, please join me in 

11    welcoming our guests and saluting a beautiful 

12    life and legacy that we have from the 

13    Hudson Valley.  And please offer our guests all 

14    of the cordialities and privileges of the 

15    chamber.

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator Hinchey.

19                 To the McHenry family, we honor the 

20    legacy of Barney, and we thank you for coming to 

21    the Capitol today.  

22                 I welcome you on behalf of the 

23    Senate.  We extend to you all of the privileges 

24    and courtesies of this house.  

25                 May Barney's memory be a blessing.


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 1                 Please rise and be recognized.

 2                 (Standing ovation.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   This 

 4    resolution was previously adopted on April 21st.  

 5                 Senator Serrano.

 6                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 Now let's take up previously adopted 

 9    Resolution 1938, by Senator Webb.  Let's read 

10    that resolution title only and recognize 

11    Senator Webb.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    Secretary will read.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1938, by 

15    Senator Webb, mourning the untimely death of 

16    Arthur W. Jones, Jr., renowned professional 

17    athlete, admired role model, and devoted member 

18    of his community.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

20    Webb on the resolution.

21                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

22    Mr. President.

23                 I rise today to remember a community 

24    member in Senate District 52 whose legacy wasn't 

25    just simply embedded in our community in the 


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 1    Southern Tier, but most certainly in our state, 

 2    and that is Arthur Jones, Jr.  

 3                 We are joined today by members of 

 4    his family here in the chamber.  

 5                 No parent ever anticipates burying 

 6    their child.  And so I know that most certainly 

 7    Arthur's father, who's here with us today, 

 8    Pastor Arthur Jones, and his wife, First Lady 

 9    Delores Jones, most certainly -- and the entire 

10    family -- continues to grapple with this 

11    incredible loss.  

12                 And so in acknowledging his legacy, 

13    it is my hope that the family will take comfort, 

14    continued comfort, in the indelible legacy that 

15    he has left behind.

16                 And so Arthur Jones, Jr., although 

17    born in Rochester, he attended Union-Endicott 

18    High School in my district, where he was a 

19    two-time wrestling champion, in addition to his 

20    spot on the football team.  

21                 He continued to play football at 

22    Syracuse University, where he was named to the 

23    First Team, All-BIG EAST Conference, and was an 

24    All-American candidate.

25                 After graduating from Syracuse, he 


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 1    was drafted to the NFL, and he played 

 2    professionally for eight years.  Some of those 

 3    teams include the Baltimore Ravens, whom he 

 4    played a very crucial role in helping them to 

 5    secure a Super Bowl win during his time there.  

 6    He also spent time playing for the Colts and the 

 7    Commanders as well.

 8                 His teammates throughout his life 

 9    remember him as a dependable friend on and off 

10    the field, someone who was always there with a 

11    smile when you needed him.

12                 He was a pillar in our community and 

13    a respected entrepreneur, including endeavors 

14    such as owning the Recovery Lounge wellness 

15    center.  And just right before his passing, he 

16    was in the process of yet another business 

17    venture, and that was to establish a trucking 

18    company.

19                 In his free time he enjoyed spending 

20    time in nature and relaxing.  And of course his 

21    top priority and source of his greatest joy was 

22    of course his family.  And when he passed away 

23    last year on October 3rd, the effect of his 

24    transition brought together countless community 

25    members from not just simply Senate District 52, 


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 1    but from across our state and beyond.  

 2                 He left behind a legacy which will 

 3    endure with the passage of time.  But Arthur will 

 4    always be remembered by those who knew him as a 

 5    generous, loving figure.  And no one will 

 6    remember him more so than his family.  

 7                 And so I want to lift up his father, 

 8    Pastor Arthur W. Jones, Jr., his brothers, 

 9    Chandler Jones, as some of you may know -- he 

10    also played professionally in the NFL -- his 

11    brother Jon "Bones" Jones, UFC fighter and 

12    champion; his children, Skylar Jones, Arthur W. 

13    Jones IV, Sydney Jones; his beloved fiancee, 

14    Maya Burns; and his stepmother, who I often call 

15    a bonus mother, Delores Jones, and his stepsister 

16    Deremi.  

17                 And of course I would be remiss if I 

18    did not lift up his mother, and that is 

19    Camille Jones, who passed some time ago.  But for 

20    anyone that lives in Binghamton, they knew that 

21    Miss Camille did not play about the church, and 

22    most certainly her children.  And Pastor Jones 

23    knows that firsthand.

24                 Mr. President, I ask that you join 

25    me in welcoming the Jones family to our chamber 


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 1    and to extend them the privileges and the 

 2    courtesies of our house.  

 3                 And again, I want to extend my 

 4    profound condolences to the Jones family, to our 

 5    entire community in the Southern Tier, and of 

 6    course the state, for this tremendous loss.

 7                 Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Webb.

10                 To Pastor Jones and the 

11    Jones family, we celebrate the legacy and life of 

12    your son Arthur and welcome you on behalf of the 

13    New York State Senate.  We extend to you all of 

14    the privileges and courtesies of this house.

15                 Please rise and be recognized.

16                 (Standing ovation.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   This 

18    resolution was previously adopted on April 28th.

19                 Senator Serrano.

20                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

21    let's please take up previously adopted 

22    Resolution 2041, by Senator Webb, read that 

23    resolution title only, and recognize 

24    Senator Webb.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 


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 1    Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2041, by 

 3    Senator Webb, mourning the death of Floyd "Todd" 

 4    Peterson III, distinguished citizen and devoted 

 5    member of his community.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 7    Webb on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you again, 

 9    Mr. President.  

10                 I rise today to recognize another 

11    exemplary member of our community in Senate 

12    District 52, and of course in our state, and that 

13    is Floyd "Todd" Peterson.  

14                 I want to recognize his family 

15    members that are here with us in the chamber:  

16    Heather and Julie Stewart; Jacqueline "Jackie" 

17    Washington; Russell, Elspeth, and 

18    Andrew Peterson; and also former student and 

19    mentee Jordan Clemons.  

20                 Floyd Peterson was a true performer 

21    at his core.  He did it all.  He was a baton 

22    twirler, a dancer, a model, an actor, an acrobat, 

23    a magician, an ice dancer, and puppeteer.  

24                 He was inducted into the 

25    Baton Twirling Hall of Fame in 1994 -- I don't 


                                                               4343

 1    know how many members knew that we actually had a 

 2    Baton Twirling Hall of Fame, but he was inducted 

 3    into it -- and danced in the Broadway production 

 4    of "Cats."  He was also featured in music videos 

 5    and commercials.  

 6                 He spent 38 years working in the 

 7    Ithaca City School District, and he worked at 

 8    every single school in that school district.  He 

 9    was an admired educator who had a profound and 

10    very positive impact on every single child that 

11    he encountered.

12                 In our community in the 

13    Southern Tier, he led the Ithaca Youth Bureau 

14    Stewart Park Day Camp.  He directed and 

15    choreographed musicals and was the founding 

16    choreographer of one of our local gems, 

17    Running to Places, which is a community theater 

18    organization.

19                 This exceptional man influenced 

20    thousands of individuals throughout the decades, 

21    many of whom were his own nieces and nephews, who 

22    loved their "Uncle Toddy," and he adored them in 

23    return.

24                 Floyd Peterson leaves behind his 

25    passion for the arts, his commitment to 


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 1    excellence, his love for our community, and his 

 2    commitment to our youth.  Because he recognized 

 3    that investing in our youth, that is how we 

 4    sustain our future.

 5                 There's also a park in 

 6    Senate District 52, Stewart Park, and there is a 

 7    structure that has been dedicated to him because 

 8    of his work in that very park.

 9                 Madam President, I ask that you join 

10    me in welcoming his family members that are here 

11    and who are here on his behalf to our chamber, 

12    and extend them the privileges and courtesies of 

13    our house.

14                 Thank you, Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

16    Senator Webb.

17                 To the family of Floyd "Todd" 

18    Peterson III, after hearing such extraordinary 

19    things about him, we welcome you on behalf of the 

20    Senate.  We extend to you all the privileges and 

21    courtesies of this house.  

22                 Please rise and be recognized.

23                 (Standing ovation.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

25    resolution was previously adopted on May 5th.


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 1                 Senator Serrano.

 2                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

 3    let's please take up Resolution 2074, by 

 4    Senator Ramos.  Let's read that resolution title 

 5    only and call on Senator Ramos.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2074, by 

 9    Senator Ramos, honoring the Lexington School for 

10    the Deaf upon the occasion of hosting its 

11    29th Annual Basketball Classic versus 

12    Senate/Assembly All-Stars on Tuesday, May 12, 

13    2026. 

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Ramos on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 And good afternoon, colleagues.  

19                 Today we celebrate a New York 

20    institution, a Queens institution, and a school 

21    that has spent generations proving something very 

22    important:  That access and excellence are not 

23    opposites, they go together.  

24                 To the Lexington School for the 

25    Deaf, joining us today, welcome.  Your presence 


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 1    fills both my heart and this chamber with joy, 

 2    pride, and a reminder that every student deserves 

 3    the opportunity to thrive and be seen for their 

 4    full potential.

 5                 Tonight the Lexington Basketball 

 6    Classic will take place.  It's more than a game.  

 7    It's a tradition rooted in visibility, 

 8    confidence, and community.  Every year Lexington 

 9    reminds us that talent is universal, even when 

10    opportunity and access are not.

11                 For more than 160 years, the 

12    Lexington School for the Deaf has opened doors 

13    for students across New York.  From six students 

14    in a family home in 1864 to the largest school 

15    for the deaf in New York State today, Lexington 

16    has helped generations of young people build 

17    lives filled with possibility, leadership and 

18    achievement.

19                 And in Queens we know something 

20    about that.  We know what it means when 

21    institutions invest in people instead of limiting 

22    them.  We know that when students are affirmed, 

23    supported and challenged, they rise.  And boy, do 

24    Lexington students rise -- in academics, in 

25    athletics, in advocacy, in the arts, and in 


                                                               4347

 1    leadership.  They do not simply participate, they 

 2    lead.

 3                 And as we recently discussed in our 

 4    hearing with Senator Fahy on employment 

 5    opportunities for people with disabilities, the 

 6    challenge is not talent.  The challenge is 

 7    whether our systems, our workplaces, and 

 8    sometimes our own assumptions are prepared to 

 9    meet people where they are and recognize their 

10    potential.

11                 Schools like Lexington are preparing 

12    students not just to succeed academically, but to 

13    enter the workforce, lead in our communities, and 

14    live independently with dignity.

15                 Our responsibility as lawmakers and 

16    employers is to make sure opportunity exists on 

17    the other side of that preparation.

18                 So to the Blue Jays, tonight is your 

19    stage.  Bring the hustle, bring the teamwork, and 

20    bring that Queens confidence.  Bring the glory 

21    back to Queens.  Show these legislators how it's 

22    done.  

23                 Truly, this event reminds us a 

24    stronger New York is one where every student has 

25    access to the tools, support and respect they 


                                                               4348

 1    need to succeed exactly as they are.  That's not 

 2    charity.  It's what equity looks like and what 

 3    quality education looks like.  And that's what 

 4    good government looks like too.  

 5                 So today we proudly honor the 

 6    Lexington School for the Deaf, its students, 

 7    families, educators, and generations of advocates 

 8    who continue building a more inclusive New York.  

 9                 Good luck tonight to the Blue Jays.  

10                 Madam President, please extend the 

11    cordialities of the house.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Ramos.

14                 Senator Bailey on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 I truly look forward to this day.  

18    Not just because it's a chance to play basketball 

19    against some amazing kids, but it's a chance to 

20    show that in this great State Capitol, to borrow 

21    a phrase from a PBS show called Carl the 

22    Collector, that every kid deserves a chance to 

23    play.  

24                 It doesn't matter if you are 

25    hearing-impaired, visually impaired, or 


                                                               4349

 1    skill-impaired, like me -- you deserve a chance 

 2    to be able to play.  You deserve a chance to be 

 3    able to learn.  You deserve the same opportunity 

 4    that everyone in this great state deserves.  And 

 5    you do that by showing up.

 6                 You have already won, because you 

 7    are winners where it counts.  You're winners in 

 8    your heart.  Now, at 6 o'clock we'll see if 

 9    you're going to win or not.  But -- 

10                 (Laughter.)

11                 SENATOR BAILEY:   -- as you can see, 

12    they still talk trash.  

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR BAILEY:   But actually 

15    they're quite excellent basketball players, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 World Deaf Basketball Championship, 

18    Olympian Andy Cruz.  They -- the Lexington School 

19    for the Deaf has brought -- Andy, stand up, Andy.  

20    Andy might have dunked on me maybe possibly a 

21    couple of years back -- 

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 SENATOR BAILEY:   -- but he took it 

24    easy on me.  

25                 But these young men and women are 


                                                               4350

 1    incredible role models.  And you should know that 

 2    you are role models.  People are watching the way 

 3    that you do things, and they're looking up to 

 4    you.  

 5                 And I am incredibly proud to know 

 6    you.  The game is in good fun, but your courage 

 7    and your passion is something that we can all 

 8    learn from.  

 9                 So congratulations in advance for 

10    being incredible young folks.  I'll see you at 

11    6:01.  

12                 Madam President, I proudly vote aye 

13    on this resolution and encourage all my 

14    colleagues to come, play, watch -- but most 

15    importantly, celebrate these amazing young 

16    people.  

17                 I vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

19    Senator Bailey.

20                 To our guests from the 

21    Lexington School for the Deaf and all those who 

22    are here to play, to celebrate, and to be part of 

23    this enormous day in the New York State Capitol, 

24    we acknowledge and see you.  We're so glad you're 

25    here for this annual event.  We look forward to 


                                                               4351

 1    the game.  May the best players win, whoever they 

 2    may be.  

 3                 Please rise and be recognized.

 4                 (Standing ovation.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    question is on the resolution.  All those in 

 7    favor please signify by saying aye.

 8                 (Response of "Aye.")

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

10    nay.

11                 (No response.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    resolution is adopted.

14                 Senator Serrano.

15                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

16    let's take up previously adopted Resolution 1862, 

17    by Senator Fahy.  Let's read that resolution 

18    title only and call on Senator Fahy.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1862, by 

22    Senator Fahy, honoring the life and legacy of 

23    Tadeusz Kosciuszko.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

25    Fahy on the resolution.


                                                               4352

 1                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.  

 3                 Today I rise to honor an 

 4    extraordinary life and legacy of Tadeusz 

 5    Kosciuszko, who was a patriot, an engineer, a 

 6    military strategist, and an unwavering champion 

 7    of liberty whose contributions really helped 

 8    shape the foundation of our nation.

 9                 During the Revolutionary War, 

10    Tadeusz Kosciuszko's brilliant fortifications at 

11    the Bemis Heights in Saratoga County helped 

12    secure the American victory at the Battle of 

13    Saratoga, which was an absolute turning point and 

14    one of what many historians have considered the 

15    moment that changed the course of world history.

16                 Right here on the Hudson River, at 

17    what is now referred to as the Capital Region, 

18    his engineering skills and strategic vision 

19    really helped advance the cause of American 

20    independence.  

21                 He understood the importance of 

22    geography, infrastructure, and preparation.  He 

23    recognized the strategic significance of the 

24    Hudson Valley, and he helped defend it at one of 

25    the most critical moments in our nation's 


                                                               4353

 1    founding.  From Saratoga to West Point, his work 

 2    protected the Colonies and strengthened the 

 3    Continental Army when victory was far from 

 4    guaranteed.  

 5                 What makes his story really 

 6    remarkable is that he not only did what he did on 

 7    the battlefield, he understood that what he was 

 8    doing was far beyond the battlefield.  He was an 

 9    immigrant from Poland.  He deeply believed in 

10    freedom and equality, that it should belong to 

11    all, not just the privileged few.  

12                 In 1776, when he came here, he began 

13    to openly speak against slavery and inequality.  

14    Thomas Jefferson called him "a pure son, as pure 

15    a son of liberty as I've ever known," and that 

16    legacy definitely continues and resonates today.  

17                 New York has been home to a vibrant 

18    Polish-American community.  I'm very familiar 

19    with that, since I come from Chicago, where we 

20    have the largest Polish-American community 

21    outside of Poland.  But here in Albany and across 

22    the region, we have had generations of families 

23    who have contributed to our civic culture and 

24    economic life.  

25                 Today we are joined by a number of 


                                                               4354

 1    members from the Albany Polish Community Center, 

 2    along with other organizations who help preserve 

 3    the Polish language, culture and heritage, a 

 4    proud tradition that continues today.  

 5                 So as we honor Tadeusz Kosciuszko, 

 6    we recognize an enduring bond between New York 

 7    and the Polish-American community, and we reflect 

 8    on the values that still unite us -- courage, 

 9    sacrifice and equality -- and believe that 

10    democracy is always worth defending.

11                 And with that, Madam President, I 

12    would ask that you please welcome and extend 

13    every courtesy to the Polish-American 

14    representatives from the center here today.

15                 Thank you.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

17    Senator Fahy.

18                 To our guests from the Albany Polish 

19    Community Center and all those representing the 

20    Polish-American community here in Albany, we 

21    welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We 

22    acknowledge the legacy of Tadeusz Kosciuszko.  We 

23    appreciate your being here today.  

24                 Please rise and be recognized.

25                 (Standing ovation.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 2    resolution was previously adopted on April 21st.

 3                 Senator Serrano.

 4                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Okay, 

 5    Madam President.  Moving along, we will now take 

 6    up previously adopted Resolution 1916, by 

 7    Senator Baskin.  I ask that that resolution be 

 8    read title only, and recognize Senator Baskin.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    Secretary will read.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1916, by 

12    Senator Baskin, recognizing May 2026 as 

13    Apraxia Awareness Month in the State of New York.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Baskin on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 I rise today to welcome my good 

19    friends, our good friends from Western New York, 

20    the Malicki family, as we acknowledge and 

21    celebrate Apraxia Awareness Month.  

22                 And it is such a pleasure to have 

23    the Malicki family join us here again in Albany 

24    as we honor you for raising awareness about 

25    apraxia.  


                                                               4356

 1                 Apraxia is a rare and serious speech 

 2    disorder where the brain struggles to plan the 

 3    precise movements needed for speech.  Children 

 4    with apraxia generally have a good understanding 

 5    of language and know exactly what it is that they 

 6    want to say, but they have difficulty learning or 

 7    carrying out the complex movements necessary to 

 8    speak.  

 9                 Courtney Malicki is a Buffalo public 

10    school special ed teacher at Lorraine Elementary 

11    School, and Richard Malicki works in sales.  They 

12    are the proud parents, proud and busy parents, of 

13    three boys:  Matthew, Andrew, and our good friend 

14    Jack.  

15                 The Malicki family have worked 

16    tirelessly to educate the community about 

17    apraxia, which Jack was diagnosed with when he 

18    was three years old, at the Robert Wagner Center 

19    for Golisano Children's Hospital, located in my 

20    district.

21                 I first met this remarkable young 

22    man and his family when I served as an 

23    Erie County legislator.  At that time, Jack was 

24    just four years old, and he struggled to form the 

25    words to say "hello" when we greeted each other.  


                                                               4357

 1                 But thanks to intense speech therapy 

 2    and many, many sessions with local physicians and 

 3    the determined support of his family, Jack is now 

 4    a 9-year-old, very chatty young man.  

 5                 And while many of us do not know 

 6    about apraxia, more and more people are learning 

 7    about this disorder because of this family's 

 8    persistent advocacy.  Courtney and her family 

 9    speak to people across our entire state, and even 

10    throughout Canada.  

11                 And they do good work and are 

12    raising awareness about apraxia to help educate 

13    families on how to support their loved ones with 

14    this disorder.  Through their determination and 

15    their advocacy, they are ensuring that every 

16    child in the great state of New York has a voice.

17                 I am proud to recognize May as 

18    Apraxia Awareness Month in the great State of 

19    New York, and I am honored to acknowledge the 

20    Malicki family, who embody the spirit and the 

21    hard work and the determination for which Western 

22    New York is known for.

23                 Madam President, almost five years 

24    ago when I met Jack, I was just -- I fell in love 

25    with him.  And it's always so good to see him, 


                                                               4358

 1    year after year, use something that could have 

 2    been a barrier in life as a point of advocacy to 

 3    change so many lives for other children and his 

 4    peers.

 5                 I always want to lift up Courtney, 

 6    in the month that we celebrate mothers for their 

 7    hard work, for her tireless effort in making sure 

 8    that every branch of government in our 

 9    communities, especially in Erie County, 

10    recognizes this important day.

11                 You guys are my friends, and it's so 

12    good to see you here in Albany raising this 

13    advocacy.

14                 Madam President, thank you for this 

15    time.  Please offer our guests the courtesies of 

16    our chamber.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

18    Senator Baskin.  

19                 To our guests from the 

20    Malicki family who are here on behalf of 

21    Apraxia Awareness Month, thank you so much for 

22    joining us.  Congratulations on all your hard 

23    work.  As parents, we know it's a lot of hard 

24    work.  

25                 And to all of you, all your kids, 


                                                               4359

 1    congratulations.  We extend to you the privileges 

 2    and courtesies of the house.  

 3                 Please rise and be recognized.

 4                 (Enthusiastic standing ovation.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    resolution was previously adopted on April 21st.

 7                 Senator Serrano.

 8                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

 9    let's please take up Resolution Number 2081, by 

10    Senator May.  Let's read that resolution title 

11    only and recognize Senator May.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    Secretary will read.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2081, by 

15    Senator May, memorializing Governor Kathy Hochul 

16    to proclaim May 12, 2026, as Fibromyalgia 

17    Awareness Day in the State of New York.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

19    May on the resolution.

20                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.  

22                 Fibromyalgia is a chronic syndrome 

23    characterized by pain, fatigue, sleep disorders, 

24    digestive difficulties, stiffness, weakness, 

25    migraine headaches, numbness and tingling, and 


                                                               4360

 1    impairment of memory and concentration.

 2                 It is notoriously hard to diagnose 

 3    and even harder to treat.  And partly for these 

 4    reasons, it receives less attention from 

 5    researchers and less public awareness than it 

 6    deserves.

 7                 Fortunately, the Fibromyalgia Task 

 8    Force of New York State has stepped into the void 

 9    and is trying to help.  It is developing a 

10    website for physicians that will provide a 

11    comprehensive overview of fibromyalgia research, 

12    with implications for new treatments.  It's 

13    developing information on Social Security 

14    Disability and use of complementary therapies.  

15    And it is advocating for creation of a statewide 

16    committee to address fibromyalgia more 

17    comprehensively.

18                 We are joined here today by members 

19    of the Fibromyalgia Task Force of New York State, 

20    including Sue Shipe, Brian Hart, Lisa Nelson, 

21    David Shipe, Zoe Indartien {ph} and Minda Conroe.  

22                 And I hope that you will welcome 

23    them and thank them for their amazing advocacy 

24    and all they're doing for the many -- up to 3 to 

25    6 percent of the population who have this 


                                                               4361

 1    syndrome, including myself.

 2                 Thank you.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 4    Senator May.  

 5                 To our guests from the Fibromyalgia 

 6    Awareness Task Force of New York State, thank you 

 7    for joining us here today.  We extend to you the 

 8    privileges and courtesies of the house.  We hear 

 9    you, we acknowledge you, and we grant you all the 

10    goodwill for coming to share with us today.  

11                 Please rise and be recognized.

12                 (Standing ovation.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    question is on the resolution.  All those in 

15    favor please signify by saying aye.

16                 (Response of "Aye.")

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

18    nay.

19                 (No response.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    resolution is adopted.

22                 Senator Serrano.

23                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

24    let's take up Resolution 2069, by 

25    Senator Fernandez.  Let's read that resolution 


                                                               4362

 1    title only and recognize Senator Fernandez.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2069, by 

 5    Senator Fernandez, memorializing 

 6    Governor Kathy Hochul to proclaim May 10-16, 

 7    2026, as Prevention Week in the State of 

 8    New York.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

10    Fernandez on the resolution.

11                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you so 

12    much, Madam President.  

13                 Happy Prevention Week.  I hope you 

14    all got a chance to meet the student leaders that 

15    came up to Albany today from all over the state, 

16    from many of our districts, to talk about 

17    prevention and how this needs to be part of our 

18    educational system, how it needs to be something 

19    that our kids know earlier than later to prevent 

20    them from maybe even trying a drug, to educate 

21    others on what are the effects of other 

22    substances, and to keep the awareness alive about 

23    what can happen when you do, when you don't, and 

24    when others are partaking.

25                 But above all, we always agree that 


                                                               4363

 1    education is one of the best tools of prevention, 

 2    to help people make better decisions for 

 3    themselves and to help guide their neighbors and 

 4    loved ones to make the best decisions.  

 5                 So Happy Prevention Week.  Shout out 

 6    to the kids that were here.  They had to leave 

 7    early.  

 8                 But starting young is the best thing 

 9    we can do, and I'm really proud of them for being 

10    the young leaders that they are now, starting 

11    clubs in their schools to talk about it, to be 

12    helpful peers, to help their students get through 

13    life if they need to.  

14                 And we're really grateful that 

15    they're taking these initiatives sooner and now, 

16    in their young ages, to be great leaders and 

17    partners in the future.

18                 So thank you so much.  Happy 

19    Prevention Week.  Spread the awareness.  Let's 

20    break the stigma, and let's keep helping our 

21    communities.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Fernandez.  

24                 I know our guests have left, but we 

25    acknowledge them and appreciate their being here 


                                                               4364

 1    today on behalf of Prevention Week.  

 2                 The question is on the resolution.  

 3    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

 4                 (Response of "Aye.")

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

 6    nay.

 7                 (No response.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    resolution is adopted.

10                 Senator Serrano.

11                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

12    let's take up previously adopted Resolution 1495, 

13    by Senator Gounardes.  Let's read that resolution 

14    title only and recognize Senator Gounardes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    Secretary will read.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1495, by 

18    Senator Gounardes, memorializing Governor Kathy 

19    Hochul to proclaim January 25th to 31st, 2026, as 

20    Physician Anesthesiologist Week in the State of 

21    New York.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Gounardes on the resolution.  

24                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.


                                                               4365

 1                 Colleagues, when most of us think 

 2    about a trip to the operating room, we think 

 3    about the surgeon.  But there's another physician 

 4    at the head of the table, an anesthesiologist, 

 5    whose job it is to help keep the patient alive, 

 6    stable, and safe through every moment of the 

 7    procedure.  They are, in many respects, the quiet 

 8    guardians of modern medicine.  

 9                 The contributions of this specialty 

10    to American healthcare are extraordinary.  After 

11    all, it was an anesthesiologist, Dr. Virginia 

12    Apgar, who developed the Apgar score that has 

13    assessed the health of nearly every newborn for 

14    generations.  

15                 And it was anesthesiologists who 

16    pioneered pulse oximetry and the safety 

17    monitoring standards that have produced the 

18    single largest sustained reduction in 

19    peri-operative mortality of any medical 

20    specialty.

21                 And it is physician 

22    anesthesiologists who developed nerve blocks, 

23    spinals, and epidurals that are helping us turn 

24    the tide against the opioid epidemic.

25                 Here in New York that tradition is 


                                                               4366

 1    alive and well, and we are honored today to be 

 2    joined by leaders of the New York State Society 

 3    of Anesthesiologists.  

 4                 With us is the society's president, 

 5    Dr. Stacey Watt, a pediatric anesthesiologist 

 6    from Buffalo who cares for some of our youngest 

 7    and most vulnerable patients.  

 8                 We're also joined by the first 

 9    assistant secretary of the society, 

10    Dr. Sudheer Jain, who's the chief of 

11    anesthesiology at Bellevue Hospital, also 

12    affiliated with NYU Langone.  

13                 We're also joined by 

14    Dr. Aaron Primm, an anesthesiologist at NYU, as 

15    well as the society's executive director, 

16    Babette Atkins, whose leadership keeps this 

17    organization running on behalf of physicians and 

18    patients across the state.  

19                 As many of you know, my father is a 

20    dentist and he was involved in his organized 

21    dentistry society for many years.  And I have a 

22    deep appreciation for any professionals, 

23    especially our medical professionals, who take 

24    the time out of their busy days to give back to 

25    their profession, to strengthen their profession, 


                                                               4367

 1    to come to Albany to advocate for rules and 

 2    regulations and laws that allow them to practice 

 3    their profession safely.  

 4                 And so I proudly vote aye on this 

 5    resolution.  And, Mr. President, I hope you give 

 6    our guests the privileges of the chamber.

 7                 Thank you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Gounardes.  

10                 To the anesthesiologists, we 

11    appreciate your integral and critically important 

12    role in surgery and in medicine in general.  

13                 I welcome you on behalf of the 

14    Senate.  We extend to you all of the privileges 

15    and courtesies of this house.

16                 Please rise and be recognized.

17                 (Standing ovation.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    resolution was adopted on February 4th.

20                 Senator Serrano.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

22    let's take up previously adopted Resolution 1917, 

23    by Senator Martinez.  Let's read that resolution 

24    title only and recognize Senator Martinez.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 


                                                               4368

 1    Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1917, by 

 3    Senator Martinez, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 4    Hochul to proclaim May 4-6, 2026, as Golf Day in 

 5    the State of New York.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 7    Martinez on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR MARTINEZ:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.

10                 I rise today to commemorate Golf Day 

11    in the State of New York for the first time.  

12    New York is widely considered the birthplace of 

13    American golf.  In 1888, St. Andrew's Golf Club, 

14    the oldest continuously operating golf club in 

15    the United States, was founded right here in 

16    New York, in Yonkers.  

17                 In 1895, in the Bronx, the 

18    Van Cortlandt Park also opened the nation's first 

19    public municipal golf course, equalizing the 

20    sport and allowing everyday New Yorkers to play.  

21                 Around the same time, St. Andrew's 

22    and Long Island's Shinnecock Hills were among the 

23    five chartered clubs to establish the 

24    United States Golf Association, which is the 

25    governing body of golf, which was formed right 


                                                               4369

 1    here in New York as well.

 2                 Golf is part of our heritage, and 

 3    this resolution gives us the opportunity to 

 4    recognize both its storied history and its 

 5    extraordinary contributions to our state today.

 6                 Representing Long Island, this is a 

 7    source of pride.  Next month, the 2026 U.S. Open 

 8    will be held at Shinnecock Hills, once again 

 9    placing New York at the center of the world of 

10    golf.

11                 Not too long ago, a few months, we 

12    held the Ryder Cup, which captivated the world's 

13    attention, also taking place at our stunning golf 

14    course, Bethpage State Park Black Course, which 

15    is also a municipal course.

16                 Anyone who has ever attended one of 

17    these tournaments knows that golf is more than 

18    just a game; it is a driver of economic activity 

19    which generates $12.9 billion in total economic 

20    impact across the state, supporting approximately 

21    89,000 jobs, and produces more than $1 billion in 

22    state and local tax revenue.  It is in every 

23    sense an economic engine for the state.  

24                 This sport also benefits our 

25    environment while protecting over 103,000 acres 


                                                               4370

 1    of green space statewide, enhancing New York's 

 2    scenic beauty while helping to clean our air and 

 3    water.  

 4                 At its core, golf is a social game 

 5    that brings people together.  It is a game that 

 6    you love to hate and a game you hate to love.  

 7    For those of you who have played, you know how 

 8    frustrating it can be when the ball does not go 

 9    the way you want it to go.  

10                 Local courses and programs provide a 

11    unique outdoor setting where New Yorkers of all 

12    ages and backgrounds connect.  Golf is an 

13    impactful part of New York economically, 

14    environmentally and socially, and it is entirely 

15    fitting that we pause to honor its enduring 

16    contributions to our state.

17                 Which is why I am proud to sponsor 

18    this resolution recognizing May 4th through 6th 

19    as Golf Day in the State of New York, and to 

20    acknowledge all the professionals and advocates 

21    who are here, including the Empire State 

22    Golf Alliance and its member organizations 

23    throughout the state, some of them who are here 

24    with us today.  

25                 Thank you for your work in advancing 


                                                               4371

 1    this game.  Thank you for your advocacy across 

 2    the state.  

 3                 And please, Mr. President, if you 

 4    can extend the privileges and cordialities of the 

 5    house to our guests today.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 7    you, Senator Martinez.

 8                 To our golf ambassadors, the game 

 9    may be challenging, but thank you for your 

10    advocacy to strengthen it in our great state.  I 

11    welcome you on behalf of the Senate and extend to 

12    you all of the privileges and courtesies of this 

13    house.  

14                 Please rise and be recognized.

15                 (Standing ovation.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    resolution was adopted on April 21st.

18                 Senator Serrano.

19                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.  

20                 At the request of the sponsors, the 

21    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   At the 

23    request of all of the sponsors, these resolutions 

24    are open for cosponsorship.  Should you choose 

25    not to be a cosponsor, please notify the desk.


                                                               4372

 1                 Senator Serrano.

 2                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Let's please take 

 3    up the reading of the calendar.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 5    Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    185, Senate Print 7483, by Senator May, an act to 

 8    amend the General Business Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    410, Senate Print 363B, by Senator Gianaris, an 

24    act to amend the General Business Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 


                                                               4373

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar Number 410, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

14    Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rolison, 

15    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.  Also 

16    Senator Rhoads.

17                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 20.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    412, Senate Print 2539C, by Senator Myrie, an act 

22    to amend the General Business Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               4374

 1    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 412, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Murray, Palumbo and 

11    Stec.

12                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 5.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    475, Senate Print 548, by Senator Stec, 

17    Concurrent Resolution of the Senate and Assembly 

18    proposing an amendment to Section 1 of Article 14 

19    of the Constitution.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4375

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    535, Senate Print 2493, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 9    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 535, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

22    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

23    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, 

24    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

25                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 18.


                                                               4376

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    542, Senate Print 4413A, by Senator May, an act 

 5    to amend the General Business Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 542, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

19    Martins, Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, 

20    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  

21                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 12.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    586, Senate Print 56B, by Senator Fernandez, an 


                                                               4377

 1    act to amend the Public Health Law.

 2                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

 4    aside.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    642, Senate Print 7137, by Senator Salazar, an 

 7    act to amend the Correction Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 624, voting in the negative are 

20    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

21    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

22    Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

23    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               4378

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    718, Assembly Bill Number 10129, by 

 4    Assemblymember Schiavoni, an act to amend the 

 5    Indian Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    738, Senate Print 9506, by Senator Rolison, an 

20    act to amend the Executive Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 


                                                               4379

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    774, Senate Print 258, by Senator Martinez, an 

10    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the first of November.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    780, Senate Print 7607C, by Senator Borrello, an 

25    act to amend the Highway Law.


                                                               4380

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 9    Borrello to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 This legislation honors the life, 

13    courage and sacrifice of Lieutenant Gary A. 

14    Scott, a LeRoy native who gave his life serving 

15    his country in Vietnam.  

16                 Lieutenant Scott graduated from 

17    LeRoy High School in 1963, where he distinguished 

18    himself for his leadership, scholarship and 

19    character.  

20                 After attending Syracuse University 

21    through ROTC, Lieutenant Scott graduated as a 

22    distinguished ROTC cadet and earned the 

23    opportunity to choose his military branch.  

24                 Although he could have selected a 

25    safer non-combat assignment during the height of 


                                                               4381

 1    the Vietnam War, Lieutenant Scott deliberately 

 2    chose the infantry, because he wanted to lead 

 3    from the front and believed African-Americans 

 4    were underrepresented in military leadership 

 5    roles.  

 6                 Lieutenant Scott served with 

 7    Company A, First Battalion, 101st Airborne 

 8    Division, the Screaming Eagles.  

 9                 On March 29, 1968, Lieutenant Scott 

10    was killed during an ambush while attempting to 

11    save members of his own platoon pinned down by 

12    enemy fire.  

13                 The medic serving alongside him 

14    stated:  "Gary never asked or directed anyone to 

15    do what he himself was not willing to do." 

16    Lieutenant Scott ultimately gave his life 

17    shielding the medic with his own body.  He was 

18    just 22 years old.  

19                 Lieutenant Scott was posthumously 

20    awarded the Silver Star for his heroism.  

21                 His legacy has endured for decades 

22    through a scholarship established in his name at 

23    LeRoy Central School by Syracuse University 

24    classmates, which has continued since 1969.  

25                 His final letters home from Vietnam 


                                                               4382

 1    were later featured in an acclaimed book, 

 2    Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam, which 

 3    became an award-winning documentary narrated by 

 4    actors including Robert DeNiro, Martin Sheen, and 

 5    Robin Williams.  

 6                 This proposal has received strong 

 7    community support, including petitions signed by 

 8    residents and letters from those who served 

 9    alongside Lieutenant Scott in Vietnam.  The bill 

10    will designate a portion of Route 19 in the Town 

11    of LeRoy, Genesee County, as Lieutenant Gary A. 

12    Scott Memorial Highway.  

13                 Lieutenant Scott's extraordinary 

14    courage and selfless sacrifice made him deeply 

15    deserving of this lasting recognition.  

16                 This designation will ensure future 

17    generations remember not only his sacrifice, but 

18    also the values he embodied:  Courage, 

19    leadership, service and selflessness.  

20                 I proudly vote aye.  Thank you.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

22    Borrello to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                 Announce the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 780, voting in the negative:  


                                                               4383

 1    Senator Brisport.

 2                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    788, Assembly Bill Number 8130, by 

 7    Assemblymember Conrad, an act to amend the 

 8    Agriculture and Markets Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    824, Senate Print 2454, by Senator Gianaris, an 

23    act to amend the Public Officers Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               4384

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    829, Senate Print 8681, by Senator Ryan, an act 

13    to amend the Not-For-Profit Corporation Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 829, voting in the negative:  

25    Senator Skoufis.


                                                               4385

 1                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    832, Senate Print 4391, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 6    act to amend the General Business Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    844, Senate Print 2485, by Senator Parker, an act 

22    to amend the Public Service Law.

23                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

25    aside.  


                                                               4386

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    861, Assembly Bill Number 10163, by 

 3    Assemblymember Lavine, an act to amend the 

 4    Veterans' Services Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    892, Senate Print 9571, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

20    act to amend the Public Housing Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 


                                                               4387

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 898, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Skoufis.

 8                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    907, Senate Print 8368, by Senator Bynoe, an act 

13    to amend the Education Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 907, voting in the negative:  

25    Senator Walczyk.


                                                               4388

 1                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    913, Senate Print 9582, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

 6    act to amend the Surrogate's Court Procedure Act.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 913, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

19    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

20    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, 

21    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4389

 1    925, Senate Print 9223, by Senator Liu, an act to 

 2    amend the Education Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 925, voting in the negative:  

15    Senator Walczyk.

16                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    932, Assembly Bill Number 2633, by 

21    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act in relation to 

22    directing the president of the State Civil 

23    Service Commission to conduct a study on job 

24    vacancies across state agencies.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 


                                                               4390

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 932, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators O'Mara, Ortt and Walczyk.

12                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 3.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    935, Senate Print 1665, by Senator Harckham, an 

17    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4391

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 935, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo and Skoufis.  

 6                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 4.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    980, Senate Print 8395, by Senator Brouk, an act 

11    to amend the Public Health Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

16    shall have become a law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 980, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Walczyk and Martinez.

25                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.


                                                               4392

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    984, Senate Print 4515, by Senator Ramos, an act 

 5    to amend the Labor Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Ramos to explain her vote.

15                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 Here we are once again passing this 

18    bill to grant domestic workers paid sick leave.  

19    It is simply the right thing to do.  It's a right 

20    afforded to so many other workers.  And I think 

21    we always have to be honest about the history 

22    here.

23                 Domestic work has traditionally been 

24    performed by Black women, immigrant women, and 

25    women of color in general.  The exclusion of 


                                                               4393

 1    domestic workers from basic labor protections 

 2    isn't accidental.  It's one of the last vestiges 

 3    of a labor system shaped during the Jim Crow era, 

 4    where certain workers were intentionally left 

 5    outside the protections others have received.

 6                 And unfortunately, until we make 

 7    this bill law, that legacy will continue to echo 

 8    in New York today.  

 9                 Across New York State we trust these 

10    women to care for our families, to care for our 

11    homes, our most priced and beloved possessions.  

12    All they're asking for is that they be granted 

13    time to take care of themselves and their loved 

14    ones too.

15                 And so that way they don't have to 

16    make grim choices like either go to work sick or 

17    lose wages, care for your health or risk your 

18    job.  Frankly, no worker should have to make that 

19    choice, especially not the workers who sustain 

20    our care economy every single day.  

21                 More than 328,000 domestic workers 

22    support households across this state.

23                 So I want to thank our leader, 

24    Andrea Stewart-Cousins, and everyone who's voting 

25    for this bill.  Here's hoping the Assembly 


                                                               4394

 1    catches up to us.  

 2                 I vote aye, Mr. President.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4    Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 984, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 9    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

10    Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, 

11    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 20.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    990, Senate Print 3553, by Senator Cleare, an act 

17    to amend the Public Service Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4395

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 990, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 6    Chan, Griffo, Lanza, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 7    Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 15.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

12    reading of today's calendar.

13                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

14    let's go to the reading of the supplemental 

15    calendar.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1005, Senate Print 488A, by Senator Fernandez, an 

20    act to amend the General Business Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

25    shall have become a law.


                                                               4396

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5    Fernandez to explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.

 8                 I rise to happily vote for my bill 

 9    that I call the Manufacturer Disclosure and 

10    Transparency Act.  

11                 This bill is about transparency, 

12    competition, and affordability when it comes to 

13    our prescription drug market.  Across New York, 

14    families are feeling the pressure of rising 

15    costs.  That includes the rising cost of 

16    prescription drugs, medications which many 

17    New Yorkers rely on to manage their health, treat 

18    chronic health conditions, and maintain their 

19    quality of life.  

20                 One of the most effective ways to 

21    lower prescription drug costs is through the 

22    timely availability of generic medications.  When 

23    generic drugs enter the market, they increase 

24    competition and help make essential medications 

25    more affordable for consumers.  


                                                               4397

 1                 Unfortunately, certain patent 

 2    settlement agreements, often referred to as 

 3    pay-for-delay agreements, can delay the 

 4    introduction of generic drugs.  These 

 5    arrangements allow manufacturers to benefit while 

 6    consumers are left paying higher prices and 

 7    waiting longer for lower-cost alternatives.  

 8                 That delay matters.  To a family 

 9    already stretching every dollar, a senior living 

10    on a fixed income, or a patient trying to manage 

11    multiple prescriptions, delayed access to 

12    affordable medication can have significant 

13    consequences.  

14                 This bill requires pharmaceutical 

15    manufacturers doing business in New York to 

16    notify the Attorney General when they enter into 

17    certain patent settlement agreements that affect 

18    the commercial launch date of a drug or 

19    biological product.  It also requires those 

20    notices be made publicly available in a 

21    searchable format, strengthening transparency and 

22    accountability.

23                 Consumers should not be kept in the 

24    dark when decisions are made behind closed doors 

25    that affect the prices they pay at the pharmacy 


                                                               4398

 1    counter.  By bringing these agreements into the 

 2    light, we can promote fair competition to inform 

 3    consumers and move forward towards a system where 

 4    affordable medications reach New Yorkers without 

 5    unnecessary delay.  

 6                 I vote aye.  Thank you very much.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1005, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, O'Mara, 

14    Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and 

15    Weik.

16                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 16.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1006, Senate Print 5599, by Senator May, an act 

21    to amend the General Business Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               4399

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5    May to explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.

 8                 A few months ago I rented a car, and 

 9    I was in a hurry to return it and forgot to fill 

10    up the tank.  And when I returned the car, the 

11    woman at the desk said, "Do you want to pay $90 

12    for us to fill the tank, or do you want to go 

13    around the corner and fill it up yourself?"  

14                 And I took the second option, went 

15    around the corner.  It cost me about $20 to fill 

16    up the tank.

17                 I think that is excessive, that they 

18    were charging $90 for what you could get for $20 

19    at the tank.  And this bill is designed to rein 

20    in that kind of price gouging by auto rental 

21    companies.  All it says is that they can charge 

22    the going rate for gas plus 25 percent, but they 

23    can't just charge anything they feel like.

24                 So I rise to vote aye on this bill 

25    but also to say I'm very proud of this whole 


                                                               4400

 1    package of consumer protection bills that we're 

 2    passing today.  All of the bills on the 

 3    supplemental calendar as well as several of the 

 4    bills on the active list are designed to help 

 5    New Yorkers believe that they are paying fair 

 6    prices when they go to a store or they go online 

 7    or they buy groceries.  Because right now we're 

 8    at a moment where people are seeing eye-popping 

 9    costs in the store.  

10                 Just today the president said he 

11    doesn't think about Americans' financial 

12    situation.  But here in this body, we do.  And we 

13    want to make sure that even though we can't 

14    control the inflation from tariffs or from rising 

15    gas prices worldwide, we can make sure that 

16    prices are fair, that people are being able to 

17    recognize that the price that they are being 

18    charged is a price that's not based on their 

19    personal data or what kind of computer they use 

20    or any of the tricks that companies are starting 

21    to use through the use of artificial intelligence 

22    and Big Data.  

23                 And I am proud that we are passing 

24    this package of bills, and I proudly vote aye on 

25    all of them.


                                                               4401

 1                 Thank you.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 3    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Announce the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1006, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Walczyk and Weber.

 8                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1007, Senate Print 8483C, by Senator Ryan, an act 

13    to amend the General Business Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

23    Ryan to explain his vote.

24                 SENATOR RYAN:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.


                                                               4402

 1                 I want to rise and support this 

 2    bill, which takes an important step toward 

 3    protecting consumers from online hidden 

 4    algorithmic price manipulation.  

 5                 You know, the reality is that every 

 6    day more and more of our lives move into the 

 7    digital marketplace.  But unfortunately, many 

 8    online retailers' digital platforms now have the 

 9    ability to use private device data -- things like 

10    the type of your phone, your own phone, your 

11    device, your software, even your battery level.  

12                 Which is extremely scary, by the 

13    way, to determine how much you may pay for a 

14    product or a service.

15                 So what that means is that when you 

16    have two people that are shopping for the exact 

17    same item, they could be shown two completely 

18    different prices -- not because of supply or 

19    demand but simply because the algorithmic data 

20    has decided that one person of those two may be 

21    more willing, may have the need or the means to 

22    pay more, or may be, quite frankly, more 

23    desperate, because of their location or the 

24    battery level on their phone.

25                 Consumers more often than not are 


                                                               4403

 1    completely unaware that this is happening.  These 

 2    practices are deeply hidden from public view.  We 

 3    have no idea that they're happening.  

 4                 What this bill simply will do, it 

 5    will prohibit companies from using 

 6    device-specific information to secretly 

 7    manipulate prices without consumers' knowledge.

 8                 At the same time, it preserves 

 9    legitimate and transparent pricing practices that 

10    our businesses, small and big, rely on every day.  

11                 So this legislation is also not just 

12    about transparency, it's about accountability.  

13    It's about making sure that the ever-changing and 

14    evolving technology works for consumers, not 

15    against them.

16                 It's also about ensuring that our 

17    laws keep pace with the realities of our modern 

18    economy.  Our devices and technology is only 

19    going to get better and faster and worse for 

20    consumers.

21                 So I proudly vote in favor, and I 

22    hope you do as well.

23                 Thank you.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

25    Ryan to be recorded in the affirmative.


                                                               4404

 1                 Senator Martins to explain his vote.

 2                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 3    Mr. President.

 4                 I rise to support the bill, and I 

 5    want to thank the sponsor for this legislation.

 6                 You know, if we're going to talk 

 7    about affordability in a grander context, I think 

 8    we should contextualize the discussion.  And yes, 

 9    there are a couple of bills that we're discussing 

10    today and will be voting on, and that we've 

11    already voted on, that deal with issues of 

12    affordability.  

13                 But you know, Mr. President, I had a 

14    chance to go back and take a look at the State 

15    Budget in 2018 -- so about $170 billion.  So from 

16    the founding of the state to 2018, it was 

17    $170 billion.  But in the last eight years, it's 

18    gone up by $100 billion, based on the budget that 

19    we keep hearing about this year.  

20                 So, Mr. President, if you take 

21    $100 million and you divide it by the 19 million 

22    people in New York State, a family of four is 

23    paying $20,000 a year more this year than they 

24    were eight years ago because of the financial 

25    decisions that are made in this body.


                                                               4405

 1                 Because the state budget pulls that 

 2    money out of the economy.  And rather than giving 

 3    it back to our residents, we're pulling it out 

 4    and we're spending it -- for what?  We still have 

 5    potholes.  Our electric systems are still falling 

 6    apart.  Our hospitals are still in dire straits.  

 7                 So folks, if we're going to talk 

 8    about affordability, great on these bills.  But 

 9    let's be honest about the whole thing.

10                 I vote aye.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

12    Martins to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1007, voting in the negative:  

16    Senator Walczyk.

17                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1008, Senate Print 8563, by Senator Cleare, an 

22    act to amend the General Business Law.

23                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

24                 UNIDENTIFIED SENATOR:  Lay it aside.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   A double 


                                                               4406

 1    lay-aside.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1009, Senate Print 8616A, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 4    act to amend the General Business Law.

 5                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 6                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Lay it aside for 

 7    the day.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 9    will be laid aside for the day.

10                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

11    reading of the supplemental calendar.

12                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.

13                 Can we go to the reading of the 

14    controversial calendar.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    Secretary will ring the bell.

17                 The Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    586, Senate Print 56B, by Senator Fernandez, an 

20    act to amend the Public Health Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

22    Rolison, why do you rise?

23                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Mr. President, 

24    would the sponsor yield for some questions. 

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 


                                                               4407

 1    sponsor yield?  

 2                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes, 

 3    Mr. President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Mr. President, 

 7    through you.  

 8                 Senator, I understand the genesis of 

 9    this bill.  We've seen it before.  And my 

10    question is, if someone brings in an illegal 

11    substance such as fentanyl, heroin, 

12    methamphetamine -- crack -- or other substances 

13    that are illegal, and this individual, Senator, 

14    is known to local law enforcement in and around 

15    that drug-checking center as a seller of drugs, 

16    what is in place or what would be in place for 

17    public safety to address that issue with that 

18    individual being in that drug-checking center?

19                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   So what is 

20    brought in when someone is trying to check their 

21    substance -- it's not like a big kilo or even the 

22    substance, sometimes it's just the residue of the 

23    bag or, yes, maybe whatever is in the little 

24    baggy.  

25                 And any connection to law 


                                                               4408

 1    enforcement, we would be seeing it now.  Because 

 2    this bill doesn't change anything than what's 

 3    already happening.  This is a program the 

 4    Department of Health has been running for 

 5    10 years already, providing the machine and 

 6    taking in the information and utilizing it as 

 7    best needed.

 8                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

10    yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Through you, 

17    Mr. President.

18                 So, Senator, the sellers of drugs -- 

19    I think what you're saying, you don't believe 

20    that they would be able to, say, exploit this so 

21    they would be able to test the potency of the 

22    very drugs that they're selling on the street?

23                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President, no.  

25                 This machine is usually used by 


                                                               4409

 1    frequent patients of certain clinics already 

 2    known in the Department of Health's records.  And 

 3    they come to know what they are about to use or 

 4    what they just probably purchased.  As we know, 

 5    the drug supply in the streets is mixed up with 

 6    many different chemicals.  Fentanyl we know is 

 7    one, xylazine, medetomidine.  It's constantly 

 8    changing.  

 9                 So no, they're not coming to test 

10    what else is out there.  This is for patients and 

11    clients of certain programs to make 

12    better-informed decisions before they use their 

13    substances.  

14                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Mr. President, 

15    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

20    sponsor yields.  

21                 SENATOR ROLISON:   So again, I 

22    just -- what concerns me, but also too, Senator, 

23    so they're -- are you saying that law enforcement 

24    could distinguish between legitimate 

25    drug-checking activity and, say, the broader 


                                                               4410

 1    unlawful drug possession or trafficking of those 

 2    substances in and around the center on those 

 3    particular streets?

 4                 (Pause.)

 5                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President.  This bill doesn't protect the 

 7    drug dealer.  It protects that individual from 

 8    possibly harming themselves.  

 9                 This is a form of harm reduction.  

10    And that's something that we've proudly supported 

11    through funding, through new programing, to make 

12    sure that an individual is best informed before 

13    they make choices for themselves.  

14                 This program, as it's been running 

15    for the last 10 years, does not intend to punish 

16    or to look for a person to arrest here, but it's 

17    to provide health knowledge before taking an 

18    action.

19                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Will the sponsor 

20    continue to yield.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield?

23                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25    sponsor yields.  


                                                               4411

 1                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Senator, getting 

 2    to the cost factor of these centers, do you have 

 3    an idea on what, say, a projected cost would be 

 4    to DOH to establish and then oversee these 

 5    centers, especially if it becomes statewide?

 6                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   They've been 

 7    covering this cost on their own budget terms.  

 8    And, through conversations, about $2 million this 

 9    may cost if we do codify it.

10                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.

17                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Senator, do you 

18    think that local governments outside of the state 

19    would have any costs to fund or staff any of 

20    these locations, depending on where they are?

21                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President, can you repeat that question?  Can 

23    outside states --

24                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Yeah -- well, 

25    no -- through you, Mr. President.  


                                                               4412

 1                 Would you anticipate any cost to 

 2    local government to staff these drug-checking 

 3    centers?

 4                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, no.  If it has not cost local 

 6    governments now or in the last 10 years, it will 

 7    not cost them anything moving forward.

 8                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

10    yield.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR ROLISON:   I know, Senator, 

17    in looking at the bill, there's specialized 

18    equipment that has to be used so the 

19    drug-checking is done in a way that we know is 

20    going to be accurate for the individuals coming 

21    in.

22                 What type of costs, do you know, 

23    with the types of spectrometers, et cetera, is 

24    there any cost associated that we know of or that 

25    you know of, Senator?


                                                               4413

 1                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President.  If we were to codify it, it would 

 3    be about 1.1 million for maintenance and 

 4    equipment.  

 5                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 7    yield?  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 9    sponsor yield? 

10                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR ROLISON:   And of course I 

14    mean -- I understand the funding could be coming 

15    from different places.  But is the bill that 

16    we're actually, you know, debating right now, you 

17    and I, Senator, does this have funding attached 

18    to it?

19                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   This bill does 

20    not -- through you, Mr. President -- oh, 

21    Mr. President.  New Mr. President.  

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 (Pause.)

24                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

25    Mr. President.  Right now it would not cost 


                                                               4414

 1    anything.  

 2                 But if there were to -- if this bill 

 3    were to proceed and be successful, to codify it 

 4    there would be a -- 2 million?  Two million 

 5    through this action.  

 6                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Would the sponsor 

 7    continue to yield for one more question.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 9    sponsor yield for one more question?

10                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Can I think 

11    about it?  No --

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Yes, I do.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.  

16                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Senator, I am 

17    very fortunate to be on your committee, and I 

18    understand the work that is done there and am, of 

19    course, always going to say thank you for that.

20                 Do you feel that in addition -- and 

21    we can have a disagreement on the drug-checking 

22    center concept.  But also, in addition to that, 

23    in sort of the all-government sort of approach -- 

24    maybe not that's not the best terminology, but 

25    the "all of the above" -- that we need the 


                                                               4415

 1    mandatory getting people in treatment as well, 

 2    whether they're checking their drugs at drug 

 3    treatment centers, but also -- I mean, do you 

 4    believe, in closing this debate between you and I 

 5    this afternoon, Senator, that that makes sense 

 6    too? 

 7                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President.  Yes, it does.  

 9                 And that is happening.  In my time 

10    as chair of this committee, I've visited 

11    numerous, dozens of locations throughout the 

12    state, up and down, having these conversations 

13    with these centers that do have a drug-checking 

14    machine.  

15                 And in those conversations it 

16    immediately happens.  Knowing that this is in 

17    their supply, would you take it?  Decision made.  

18                 Would you like to enter detox, if 

19    that is where the conversation goes.  Would you 

20    like to go to this counseling?  Do you know that 

21    this is available?  

22                 These clinics are very well informed 

23    and do take every step possible to make sure that 

24    an individual is made aware of every option that 

25    is available to them when it comes to their 


                                                               4416

 1    health.

 2                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Senator, thank 

 3    you.  Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator.

 6                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 7    to be heard?

 8                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 9    now closed.

10                 Senator Serrano.

11                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

12    upon consent, we have agreed to restore this bill 

13    to the noncontroversial calendar.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    will be restored to the noncontroversial 

16    calendar.

17                 The Secretary will read the last 

18    section.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               4417

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 3    Fernandez to explain her vote.

 4                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.

 6                 I want to emphasize the need for 

 7    this bill right now, in this time, this year, 

 8    where we are.  Because looking at the bigger 

 9    picture, what our federal government is doing, 

10    they are cutting all ways of being able to make 

11    safe choices.  

12                 They are cutting sources -- SAMHSA 

13    funding has been cut, which provides fentanyl 

14    test strips, which provides xylazine test strips, 

15    more harm-reduction tools.  

16                 So if the federal government is 

17    going to take away our ability to make the best 

18    decisions to care for our health in the best way, 

19    we need to step up and to make sure that we have 

20    the $1 million to protect a program that is 

21    saving lives every single day.

22                 So I proudly vote aye.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Senator Rivera to explain his vote.


                                                               4418

 1                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.

 3                 I want to publicly thank the 

 4    chairwoman for this great committee, and the 

 5    sponsor of this bill for believing in harm 

 6    reduction.  

 7                 Let's just be clear here, folks.  

 8    You cannot recover if you're not alive.  And harm 

 9    reduction believes, first, in that, believes in 

10    finding people where they are, meeting them where 

11    they are.  

12                 The reality is that drug use and 

13    addiction is a spectrum, and it is something that 

14    somebody does to self-medicate.  So they might be 

15    in a good place today, but then something happens 

16    in their family life, something happens a little 

17    bit later, and they're using again.  

18                 It is not a moral failing, it is a 

19    disease, and we have to treat it as such.  And 

20    that means, in this case, providing the 

21    information that they need to know what they're 

22    putting into their bodies.  Addiction is an 

23    affliction that sometimes you can't fight.  So 

24    knowing that you might be putting something into 

25    your body which puts you at risk gives you more 


                                                               4419

 1    information and gets you closer to being in the 

 2    place where you will find treatment.  

 3                 And ultimately, yes, it is about 

 4    getting treatment and getting the person to be 

 5    better.  But people have to be alive to do that.  

 6    This is one of the many tools that we can use to 

 7    make sure that people stay alive so that they can 

 8    be here for treatment so that they can continue 

 9    to be among us.  

10                 I am proud to be a sponsor of this 

11    piece of legislation, and I proudly vote in the 

12    affirmative.

13                 Thank you, Mr. President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Senator Harckham to explain his 

17    vote.

18                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

19    much, Mr. President.  

20                 I want to thank Senator Fernandez 

21    for this important bill and just echo the 

22    comments of my colleagues.  

23                 If our goal is to get people into 

24    treatment, if our goal is to get people well, 

25    they need to be alive.  And there is such poison 


                                                               4420

 1    in the drug supply right now that we need to keep 

 2    folks safe.  And that should be job number one, 

 3    is keeping folks safe.  

 4                 And as Senator Rivera said, 

 5    addiction is a disease, just like diabetes, just 

 6    like heart disease, just like cancer.  It's 

 7    recognized as such.  And nobody wakes up in the 

 8    morning and chooses to stick a needle in their 

 9    arm or under their tongue or behind their knee.  

10    They do it because they have to.  They do it 

11    because they have no choice.  

12                 And we have an obligation to try and 

13    keep those folks alive just the way, you know, we 

14    work with diabetics, we work with heart disease, 

15    we work with cancer.  We don't judge those people 

16    on a moral level, and this is treating the 

17    symptom to keep folks alive.  This is triage.

18                 I thank you for the bill.  

19                 I proudly vote aye.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

21    Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                 Announce the results.  

23                 Oh, I'm sorry.  Senator Lanza to 

24    explain his vote.

25                 SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, thank you, 


                                                               4421

 1    Mr. President.  

 2                 I think it's a bit rich to blame 

 3    this problem on the federal government.  But if 

 4    we're going to talk about the federal government, 

 5    let's talk about the Biden administration.  Four 

 6    years, open borders, tons of fentanyl brought 

 7    into this country.  

 8                 Hundreds of thousands of Americans 

 9    in four years -- in fact, about 500,000 Americans 

10    were killed.  Our brothers, our sisters, all 

11    across this country.  

12                 And I think sometimes compassion 

13    goes so far that it's not compassion.  What I 

14    think, and for the same reason that I'm against 

15    the (finger quoting) safe, clean needle centers 

16    in New York City -- which, by the way, are a 

17    failure.  They're a success if you judge how many 

18    people are coming there.  They're a failure if 

19    you talk about the results and how many people 

20    eventually overdose anyway.  

21                 I think if we want to be 

22    compassionate, when someone shows up with heroin, 

23    you put your arms around them, you tackle them if 

24    you need to, and you tell them -- you get them 

25    into treatment and you make sure they don't put 


                                                               4422

 1    that heroin into their system.  

 2                 This idea that, well, we're going to 

 3    make sure that you don't die today, I get.  And I 

 4    understand it.  I know the sponsor is trying to 

 5    save lives.  But the idea that we're going to 

 6    make sure you don't die today from fentanyl but 

 7    you're going to die in a week or in a month or 

 8    six months -- because we all know the studies.  

 9    We know what happens.  If you are addicted to 

10    heroin, you are going to die.  

11                 And so we do have an emergency.  We 

12    do need to do something about it.  But when 

13    someone shows up with heroin, you tackle them and 

14    make sure they don't put that heroin in their 

15    body.  

16                 I vote no.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Lanza to be recorded in the negative.

19                 Senator Ramos to explain her vote.

20                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I vote aye, 

21    Mr. President.

22                 I think the biggest failure has been 

23    the war on drugs.  Quite frankly, we have spent, 

24    as a country, billions and billions of dollars 

25    only to continue to see Americans and 


                                                               4423

 1    specifically New Yorkers choose to soothe 

 2    themselves with these substances.  

 3                 We have to do something that is new, 

 4    that really lessens the dependency on these 

 5    substances.  And that's why I'm voting for this.  

 6                 We have to put our tax dollars where 

 7    we know science is proving to save lives.  The 

 8    war on drugs was a failure.  You want to talk 

 9    about Biden, we can talk about Bush, we can talk 

10    about Reagan, Nancy Reagan, at that.  That has 

11    not taken us anywhere.  

12                 And it is unfortunate that we 

13    wouldn't focus on the medical tools that are now 

14    readily available to make sure that we are saving 

15    lives.

16                 It is wrong to assume that somebody 

17    would lose their life in a week, in a month.  We 

18    can take action now, and it starts here.  And I'm 

19    really hoping the Assembly also follows suit and 

20    listens to Senator Fernandez on this issue.

21                 Thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

23    Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Senator Murray to explain his vote.

25                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 


                                                               4424

 1    Mr. President.

 2                 Again, I think it's interesting as 

 3    well that we're sitting here and we're talking 

 4    about how much we want to help them get into 

 5    recovery and help them out and do what we can.  

 6                 And yet we had Sheriff Toulon from 

 7    Suffolk County begging, when you were trying to 

 8    pass cashless bail, begging:  Rethink that.  

 9    You're arresting someone who was caught using or 

10    pushing or whatever.  They come in, and instead 

11    of getting them the treatment and the help, 

12    instead of holding them, setting bail, allowing 

13    them to hold them and get them treatment, get 

14    them help, they're released right back out.  

15                 And I guarantee you they're not 

16    going to get help.  They are going to get their 

17    next hit or their next fix.  

18                 So it's interesting we talk about 

19    how much you want to help, but yet you pass 

20    policies like that that put them right back out 

21    on the street.  

22                 I'm voting no.  Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Murray to be recorded in the negative.

25                 Senator Bailey to explain his vote.


                                                               4425

 1                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.

 3                 We've strayed far away from the 

 4    intent of the sponsor's legislation.  We're 

 5    talking about holding people and people not being 

 6    able to recover.  

 7                 And this isn't a personal thing, 

 8    because I know my colleagues are well-intentioned 

 9    individuals.  But I come from an era where people 

10    were criminalized.  They didn't call them, you 

11    know, people with disabilities or people with 

12    substance use, they called them junkies.  They 

13    called them fiends, they called them addicts, and 

14    they were left for dead.

15                 Now, because problems happen in 

16    other communities that look different than the 

17    one that I grew up in, now we've changed the 

18    nomenclature of what we're doing.  And I'm glad 

19    that we've changed it.  But let us not forget the 

20    past.  Let us not forget where we come from.  We 

21    cannot go back there.  

22                 And bills like this are important in 

23    making sure that we do everything we can to stop 

24    this scourge of drug use in this community, in 

25    this society.  This is not a partisan thing.  And 


                                                               4426

 1    if you think it is, you're dead wrong.

 2                 I proudly vote aye, Mr. President.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 4    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 586, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Bynoe, 

 9    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

10    Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, 

11    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, 

12    Ryan, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and 

13    Weik.

14                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 25.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    844, Senate Print 2485, by Senator Parker, an act 

19    to amend the Public Service Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

21    Walczyk, why do you rise?

22                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

23    would the sponsor yield?  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield? 


                                                               4427

 1                 SENATOR PARKER:   Yes, 

 2    Mr. President.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.

 5                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President.  This bill would give new powers 

 7    under the Office of Renewable Energy Siting.  

 8                 Under this bill, when would local 

 9    zoning or permitting prevent transmission 

10    projects that are proposed here?

11                 SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President.  Through this bill, ORES would 

13    control the siting process.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

15    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

16    yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield? 

19                 SENATOR PARKER:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President.  ORES is also directed to develop 

24    a map with the help of the Public Service 

25    Commission and with the utility companies.  


                                                               4428

 1                 What local input from communities 

 2    across New York State would be considered when 

 3    developing that map for where all this new 

 4    transmission would be built out?

 5                 SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President.  Local communities can participate 

 7    through the processes of the proceeding.

 8                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

 9    would the sponsor continue to yield?  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

11    sponsor yield? 

12                 SENATOR PARKER:   Yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

16    Mr. President.  If a local government doesn't 

17    want to see new transmission that is then mapped 

18    and planned out by the Office of Renewable Energy 

19    Siting, what can a municipality that doesn't want 

20    to see what they've put on their map, what can 

21    they do to protect their community from that new 

22    transmission that they don't want to see?

23                 SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President.  I don't think that communities 

25    need to protect themselves from new transmission.  


                                                               4429

 1                 The reality is that if we are going 

 2    to address the energy needs of the state, you're 

 3    going to have to have a clean and efficient grid.  

 4                 This legislation creates a planning 

 5    process by which we actually plan out how and 

 6    where the grid needs to be improved, and then 

 7    hopefully use that plan to upgrade the grid.

 8                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.  On the bill.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:  Senator 

11    Walczyk on the bill.

12                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   This is part of 

13    the problem with the energy plan in the State of 

14    New York right now, is that it is from the top, 

15    not seeking local input, not even empowering 

16    local home rule that has consistently been 

17    respected until it comes to the Office of 

18    Renewable Energy Siting in the State of New York.  

19                 In fact, communities do want to plan 

20    and zone.  They do care where solar projects go 

21    in their community.  They do care where new 

22    transmission comes in.  But when the state comes 

23    from up high and right on down into our 

24    communities, it has caused a lot of consternation 

25    in the district that I represent and I know, 


                                                               4430

 1    across the State of New York, the same.

 2                 Since the CLCPA was passed, we have 

 3    deactivated 4,700 megawatts of power that was 

 4    being produced in the State of New York.  We've 

 5    spent $88.7 billion -- and that's according to 

 6    the Governor, on green energy projects to produce 

 7    2,000 new megawatts.  Not even replacing even 

 8    close to half of the nameplate of what we took 

 9    offline.  And we know that the renewable projects 

10    that we put in place don't even come close to the 

11    nameplate.  

12                 We desperately plastered solar power 

13    all over upstate New York.  Now we're saying 

14    we're going to, with this bill, roll over home 

15    rule, not consider local zoning, and again give 

16    the Office of Renewable Energy Siting more power 

17    to come into our communities when it comes to 

18    transmission.  

19                 It's not working.  The state's 

20    energy plan is not working.  Our bills are 

21    70 percent higher than the rest of the nation.  

22    The state's energy plan is failed.  People are 

23    angry.  Farmland and the environment has suffered 

24    under this.  Community preservation has been 

25    ignored.  And the New York State Independent 


                                                               4431

 1    Systems Operator is now warning that we're going 

 2    to run out of power as soon as possibly this 

 3    summer.  

 4                 It's time to stop, rethink this.  

 5    And if you -- and it's right in the title of the 

 6    CLCPA, "leadership."  The only thing we're 

 7    leading the world in right now is what not to do 

 8    in energy policy.  We are setting the example, 

 9    and others are looking at us.  And they're 

10    saying, Well, don't do what New York is doing.  

11                 And for that reason, I'll be voting 

12    no and encourage my colleagues to do the same.

13                 Thank you, Mr. President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

15    you, Senator.

16                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

17    to be heard?

18                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

19    now closed.

20                 Senator Serrano.

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

22    upon consent, we've agreed to restore this bill 

23    to the noncontroversial calendar.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

25    will be restored to the noncontroversial 


                                                               4432

 1    calendar.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 844, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

14    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

15    Weber and Weik.

16                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 17.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1008, Senate Print 8563, by Senator Cleare, an 

21    act to amend the General Business Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

23    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, why do you rise?

24                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:  

25    Thank you, Mr. President.  I was wondering if the 


                                                               4433

 1    sponsor would yield for a few questions.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Would the 

 3    sponsor yield? 

 4                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 9    Thank you, Senator Cleare.  

10                 Through you, Mr. President.  I 

11    wanted to discuss this bill and get some 

12    clarification.  

13                 My understanding is that this bill 

14    would prohibit covered suppliers from offering 

15    lower prices to another covered retailer or 

16    covered wholesaler.

17                 Under the statute, the definition of 

18    a covered supplier means a person that produces 

19    and sells covered goods in New York State.  

20                 So is it accurate that if a supplier 

21    produces in Pennsylvania and sells in New York, 

22    that this legislation does not apply to that 

23    company?

24                 SENATOR CLEARE:   It's my 

25    understanding that this bill establishes an 


                                                               4434

 1    antitrust regulatory framework to govern the 

 2    pricing practices of grocery suppliers and 

 3    retailers.  Wherever they're selling.

 4                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 5    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

 6    continue to yield?  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 8    sponsor yield? 

 9                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President, yes, I do.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

14    my last question was that if it requires that a 

15    covered supplier produce and sell in New York 

16    State, are we favoring outside producers that 

17    sell in New York versus a New York company that 

18    produces and sells in the state?

19                 (Pause.)

20                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Yeah.  It applies 

21    to people who sell in New York, if you sell in 

22    New York.

23                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:    

24    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

25    continue to yield?  


                                                               4435

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 2    sponsor yield?  

 3                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

 4    Mr. President, I do.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 8    It's also my understanding that New York is the 

 9    only state that would impose this type of 

10    liability framework.  

11                 Major national suppliers currently 

12    selling 18 billion or more will now face a choice 

13    and have to comply with an impossible standard or 

14    simply exit New York.

15                 Do you know how many suppliers will 

16    actually be affected by this legislation if it 

17    becomes law?

18                 SENATOR CLEARE:   To the first part 

19    of your question, there are other states that 

20    have antitrust regulatory agreements.  New York 

21    will be the first to do it in this manner.

22                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:  

23    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

24    continue to yield?  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 


                                                               4436

 1    sponsor yield? 

 2                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

 3    Mr. President, yes, I do.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.  

 6                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 7    my question is, how many suppliers that reach 

 8    $18 billion are doing business in New York in the 

 9    grocery business that we're affecting those 

10    businesses, if this legislation becomes law?

11                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I don't know how 

12    many are selling in New York.  But I know that 

13    the local businesses, the local grocers, are 

14    supportive of this legislation.

15                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

16    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

17    continue to yield?  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

19    sponsor yield?

20                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President, yes, I do.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

23    sponsor yields.  

24                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

25    going back to the definition of a covered 


                                                               4437

 1    supplier, I'm looking at 305-j(5)(a), "'Covered 

 2    supplier' means a person that (a) produces and 

 3    sells covered goods in the State of New York."  

 4                 So my question, again, is if a 

 5    person -- if a business is not producing in 

 6    New York, but they're selling in New York, are 

 7    they exempt from this statute such that we are 

 8    burdening New York businesses more than outside, 

 9    out-of-state businesses?

10                 (Pause.)

11                 SENATOR CLEARE:   All right, so 

12    there may be a misinterpretation of the way we're 

13    interpreting it.  But it is not meant -- it is 

14    meant for those who produce and sell in New York, 

15    comma. 

16                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

17    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

18    continue to yield?  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

20    sponsor yield?

21                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President, I do.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    Senator yields.

25                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 


                                                               4438

 1    the statute, the way it's currently written -- 

 2    and the way we're about to vote on -- is very 

 3    clear.  And I would encourage you, if that's not 

 4    your intention, that you consider maybe a chapter 

 5    amendment after the fact.  

 6                 But moving on to another question, 

 7    does this bill prevent -- or prohibit, I should 

 8    say, volume discounts that are potentially 

 9    offered to suppliers that are, you know, 

10    utilizing -- you know, produce -- I'm sorry, 

11    putting in large orders?

12                 SENATOR CLEARE:   No, it doesn't do 

13    that.  

14                 What it simply does is it says the 

15    wholesale price is the wholesale price.  The same 

16    terms per volume unit that you offer one seller, 

17    you have to offer to the other.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

19    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

20    continue to yield.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield?

23                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President, I do.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 


                                                               4439

 1    sponsor yields.

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 3    by definition, a wholesaler is supplying to 

 4    another consumer further down the line, such as a 

 5    small mom-and-pop shop, a local grocery store.  

 6                 Whereas another retailer is 

 7    obviously selling it directly.  

 8                 If we put them on the same parity, 

 9    aren't you creating a situation where consumers 

10    are going to pay more at certain locations than 

11    others?

12                 (Pause.)

13                 SENATOR CLEARE:   No, they won't be 

14    paying more.  In cases that have already been 

15    cited -- you know, there's one case that I'm 

16    looking at where Pepsi and Walmart got together 

17    and charged other smaller grocers more for the 

18    Pepsi and charged Walmart less.  

19                 In that case, in order for the 

20    smaller grocers to make money, they hiked up the 

21    prices anyway because they couldn't compete.  

22    They couldn't compete with what was being offered 

23    to the larger retailer, with the price that was 

24    being offered to the larger retailer.

25                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   


                                                               4440

 1    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

 2    continue to yield.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 4    sponsor yield?

 5                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President, I do.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

10    you alluded to a situation.  Are there studies, 

11    is there any evidence, any economic studies that 

12    show that this is truly a problem in need of 

13    correction?

14                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Yes.  According to 

15    the American Economic Liberties Project that -- 

16    they support this bill.  There's a memorandum of 

17    support.  And yes.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

19    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

20    continue to yield?  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield? 

23                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President, I do.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 


                                                               4441

 1    sponsor yields.  

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 3    the Antitrust Modernization Commission, a 

 4    bipartisan federal body, studied the 

 5    Robinson-Patman Act, which this bill mirrors, and 

 6    they found that suppliers facing liability under 

 7    that act simply refused to sell to smaller 

 8    retailers rather than navigate the compliance.

 9                 So my question is, are you fearful 

10    or have you considered that some suppliers will 

11    just refuse to sell to certain suppliers and 

12    wholesalers rather than try to comply with the 

13    impossible standard that we're setting here?

14                 (Pause.)

15                 SENATOR CLEARE:   No.  Because, you 

16    know, in certain neighborhoods -- like in my 

17    neighborhood, there are local supermarkets and 

18    bodegas.  There's no Walmart.  There's no big 

19    stores, larger retailers that people can go to.  

20                 They're still going to need to sell 

21    in communities like mine.

22                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

23    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

24    continue to yield?  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Does the 


                                                               4442

 1    sponsor yield?  

 2                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Through you, I do.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.  

 5                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 6    those are exactly the concerns I have as well, 

 7    because they are going to be the ones that pay 

 8    more because they are further down the chain.

 9                 I would like to ask you -- 

10    economists have documented that laws like this 

11    often cause sellers to stop making price cuts 

12    entirely, because if they can't do them broadly, 

13    it doesn't work, according to this legislation.  

14    It becomes more costly for them to give 

15    discounts.  

16                 So my question is, what specific 

17    mechanism in this bill prevents that outcome?

18                 (Pause.)

19                 SENATOR CLEARE:   So through you, 

20    Mr. President.  The smaller stores are already 

21    paying more, in some cases, and especially in 

22    this instance that I'm talking about.  

23                 But right now Pepsi and Walmart, 

24    they're working together, you know, to -- they're 

25    providing Walmart with promotional payments, 


                                                               4443

 1    discounts.  They're trying to work towards 

 2    bringing that price down.

 3                 I don't think this is going to 

 4    affect them selling.  I don't think they're going 

 5    to stop selling their products.  I think this is 

 6    just going to level the playing field so that 

 7    everybody's paying the same price for the same 

 8    products and everybody can compete.  

 9                 This is not just -- go ahead.  

10                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   I'm 

11    sorry.  I apologize.

12                 SENATOR CLEARE:   It's okay.  Go 

13    ahead.

14                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

15    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

16    continue to yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Yes, through you, 

20    Mr. President, I do.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

22    sponsor yields.  

23                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

24    Section 350-k(f) prohibits a supplier from 

25    refusing to sell to any retailer that has made 


                                                               4444

 1    purchases in the last 12 months unless the 

 2    supplier has an undefined commercially reasonable 

 3    justification.

 4                 This effectively strips a business 

 5    of the decision-making to sell to someone that 

 6    they've sold to in the last 12 months.  How do 

 7    you think that that's going to affect prices?

 8                 (Pause.)

 9                 SENATOR CLEARE:   There are defenses 

10    in the bill against increasing pricing.  And I 

11    think what -- this is the prohibit retaliation 

12    from retailers against -- I mean from the sellers 

13    on retailers.  This is only put in place to 

14    prevent retaliation against them.

15                 Again, I don't think that this bill 

16    is going to actually cause anybody not to be sold 

17    to.  I don't think that it's going to cause 

18    prices to go up.  I think it's going to be the 

19    opposite.  

20                 And that's the intent of the bill, 

21    to make sure that there's a level playing field 

22    and that everybody in every neighborhood is able 

23    to get products for the same price.

24                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:    

25    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 


                                                               4445

 1    continue to yield?  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield? 

 4                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I do.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   The 

 8    Sherman Act already prohibits genuinely 

 9    anticompetitive exclusive dealing and predatory 

10    pricing.  The FTC actively enforces truly unfair 

11    trade practices.  

12                 If federal law is already addressing 

13    this, why do we need a New York statute that 

14    conflicts with the federal rules?

15                 SENATOR CLEARE:   It doesn't 

16    conflict with the federal laws.  

17                 And we are just strengthening -- 

18    we're just strengthening the law locally because 

19    we want to make sure that people are not getting 

20    taken advantage of in terms of these price -- 

21    it's a setup, you know, where the retailer is 

22    allowed to get these lower prices.  Sometimes 

23    it's even different packaging, it's smaller sizes 

24    or larger sizes.  

25                 Nothing should be available to one 


                                                               4446

 1    retailer or one customer that's not available to 

 2    another customer.  And it shouldn't be available 

 3    to them at a lower price.

 4                 That's not -- that's not fair.  That 

 5    doesn't encourage competitiveness.  That just 

 6    makes sure that one group is dominant over the 

 7    other.  

 8                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 9    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

10    continue to yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I do.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

17    Through you, Mr. President, could you cite an 

18    example of a product that you're seeing this type 

19    of unfair practice that we should correct?  

20                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I mentioned to 

21    you, you know, the Pepsi and Walmart.  Those 

22    products were being sold cheaper to Walmart.  

23    They had a deal that -- and not only were they 

24    sold cheaper to Walmart, they were made more 

25    expensive to other retailers that wanted to buy 


                                                               4447

 1    Pepsi.  So there was no way they could compete 

 2    with the prices that Walmart was charging.

 3                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:  

 4    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

 5    continue to yield.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 7    sponsor yield? 

 8                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I do.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

10    sponsor yields.

11                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

12    Section 350-o creates a private right of action 

13    with treble damages.  Every pricing decision a 

14    large supplier makes in New York will come with 

15    the risk of litigation that potentially has the 

16    chance to make our business climate less 

17    inviting.  

18                 And I'm wondering if you've 

19    considered why -- how that particular provision, 

20    with treble damages and litigation, is going to 

21    ultimately affect the prices that our consumers 

22    are paying.

23                 SENATOR CLEARE:   You know, that 

24    right of action is available to people who feel 

25    as if they've been unfairly charged and they're 


                                                               4448

 1    not able to get the product for the same price 

 2    that -- the wholesale price that's available to 

 3    everyone.  

 4                 I don't think that's going to affect 

 5    the price in a negative manner.  

 6                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 7    Through you, Mr. President, will the sponsor 

 8    continue to yield?

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR CLEARE:   I do.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.  

14                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   I 

15    notice that certain items are excluded, 

16    specifically gasoline, prescription drugs, 

17    tobacco and alcohol.  Could you tell me why those 

18    items were excluded from this legislation?

19                 (Pause.)

20                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Those products 

21    were left out so we would make sure that this 

22    legislation aligns with the federal government.

23                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

24    Through you, Mr. President -- on the bill.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 


                                                               4449

 1    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick on the bill.

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   I 

 3    want to thank the sponsor for the exchange of 

 4    questions and for her intent, to make sure that 

 5    grocery prices come down.

 6                 I will tell you that we're all 

 7    feeling it.  I can tell you as a mom of four, and 

 8    they're all about to come home from college, that 

 9    I certainly will feel those grocery prices.

10                 However, there's a lot of unintended 

11    consequences that we should consider.  I have a 

12    very strong opinion that free competition, supply 

13    chain efficiency, and investments are the key to 

14    bringing prices down, not further government 

15    regulation.  

16                 I encourage us to continue to look 

17    at this legislation, to improve it to do what the 

18    sponsor intends it to do.  

19                 I will be voting in the negative, 

20    and I encourage all my colleagues to do so.

21                 Thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

23    you, Senator.

24                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

25    to be heard?


                                                               4450

 1                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 2    now closed.

 3                 Senator Serrano.

 4                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

 5    upon consent, we've agreed to restore this bill 

 6    to the noncontroversial calendar.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 8    will be restored to the noncontroversial 

 9    calendar.

10                 Read the last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Cleare to explain her vote.

18                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Yes.  Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.

20                 The Consumer Grocery Pricing 

21    Fairness Act is part of a package of bills we 

22    pass here today that will literally put real 

23    money back into the pockets of all New Yorkers.  

24                 People in my neighborhood rely on 

25    community grocers because many of the larger 


                                                               4451

 1    retailers are not located within the community.  

 2    These local supermarkets and bodegas should not 

 3    be charged more for goods than larger, dominant 

 4    retailers.  Large corporations should not be able 

 5    to dictate prices in the marketplace, setting 

 6    terms only to their benefit and forcing smaller 

 7    grocers to pay inflated prices, which then leads 

 8    to our families paying a premium for the simple 

 9    food staples they need from the store.  

10                 This type of monopolistic 

11    price fixing is not only a threat to freedom, 

12    fairness, and capitalism, but to the health and 

13    well-being of those who simply want to shop for 

14    the products that keep their family fed and 

15    healthy.  

16                 Our Grocery Pricing Fairness Act 

17    will mean lower prices for all in New York State.  

18    This bill will prohibit suppliers from engaging 

19    in unfair price discrimination against 

20    independent retailers, require the same deals on 

21    price and delivery terms that are equivalent to 

22    the deals demanded by big box retailers.  

23                 This bill also imposes liability for 

24    dominant buyers who coerce suppliers, and has a 

25    strong, independent enforcement mechanism.


                                                               4452

 1                 I proudly vote aye.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 3    Cleare to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                 Senator Martins to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.

 7                 I think it's a question of framing 

 8    and perspective.  I'm voting no because I don't 

 9    see that the larger stores are paying less.  

10    They're paying the same amount.  But economics, 

11    in terms of delivery and the number of units that 

12    are being delivered there, allow them to 

13    negotiate a lower price.  

14                 And my concern is it's economics.  

15    If I want to buy a thousand of something and 

16    they're going to make one trip as opposed to 10 

17    of something, I may actually be able to negotiate 

18    a better price.

19                 The reality is if we create parity, 

20    parity is not going to reduce prices, it's going 

21    to increase prices.  And so the issue isn't that 

22    the local stores are paying more, it's that the 

23    larger stores are paying less because they have 

24    leverage to be able to use their buying power and 

25    their selling power to get a better price.  


                                                               4453

 1                 The result is our consumers, our 

 2    residents, are going to pay more.  That's the 

 3    reality.  We keep talking about affordability.  

 4    They all pay the same price.  But if I want to 

 5    buy a thousand of something, yes, I'm going to 

 6    negotiate a better price and I'm going to pass it 

 7    on to my consumers and they're going to have the 

 8    benefit of that.

 9                 The result of this bill is that 

10    everyone is going to pay more, which means 

11    everyone in New York State, all of our residents, 

12    are going to be paying more.  

13                 I understand the intent.  But 

14    economics doesn't work that way.  

15                 And so, Mr. President, for the 

16    benefit of my residents and all the residents of 

17    New York State who are now paying too much for 

18    everything, I vote no.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

20    Martins to be recorded in the negative.

21                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to 

22    explain her vote.

23                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

24    Thank you, Mr. President.

25                 I just want to say once again that I 


                                                               4454

 1    applaud the sponsor.  I know that your intent is 

 2    right in the same spot that we all are.  We need 

 3    to bring grocery prices down.  It's the one thing 

 4    that we all have in common, that we all need.

 5                 But we need to let the free market 

 6    adjust for it.  And we keep putting more and more 

 7    business regulations on our businesses, and 

 8    they're leaving.  And they take with it their 

 9    jobs, and they take with it their tax revenue 

10    that makes our job harder.

11                 And I do think that our intent is 

12    one that we all share.  We just disagree about 

13    how to get there.  And I think with further 

14    discussions like this, we will get there to make 

15    sure that we do the best for our constituents.

16                 Thank you, Mr. President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be recorded in the 

19    negative.

20                 Senator May to explain her vote.

21                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

22    Mr. President.

23                 And I want to thank Senator Cleare 

24    for this bill.

25                 We have all seen it where a national 


                                                               4455

 1    chain swoops into a neighborhood, undercuts the 

 2    prices of local businesses, puts them out of 

 3    business, and as soon as there is no competition, 

 4    they jack the prices up again.

 5                 That is what this bill is designed 

 6    to protect neighborhoods from, and I applaud the 

 7    sponsor for it.

 8                 Thank you, and I vote aye.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

10    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                 Senator Weik to explain her vote.

12                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.  

14                 This is something called perfect 

15    competition.  So all the way back in 12th-grade 

16    economics, my teacher drilled it into our 

17    heads -- he even made it into a little song.  He 

18    told us, never forget it.  Perfect competition 

19    can't happen.  And the reason it can't happen is 

20    it will never work out.

21                 So perfect competition is a 

22    theoretical market structure.  It's used in 

23    idealized benchmarks rather than common, real 

24    world structure.  It's a great idea.  People have 

25    used this theory for many, many years.  But we 


                                                               4456

 1    know it can't work.  And we know it can't happen 

 2    because it's going to drive prices up elsewhere.  

 3                 That's why I'm voting in the 

 4    negative.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Weik to be recorded in the negative.

 7                 Announce the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1008, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

11    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

12    Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

13    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

18    reading of the controversial calendar.

19                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, is 

20    there any further business at the desk?

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

22    no further business at the desk.

23                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I move to adjourn 

24    until tomorrow, Wednesday, May 13th, at 3:00 p.m.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 


                                                               4457

 1    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

 2    Wednesday, May 13th, at 3:00 p.m.

 3                 (Whereupon, at 6:00 p.m., the Senate 

 4    adjourned.)

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