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2:02 PMRegular SessionALBANY, NEW YORK
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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    June 1, 2026

11                      2:02 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JAMAAL T. BAILEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Sunday, 

16    May 31, 2026, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, May 30, 

18    2026, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Excuse me, the Secretary will read.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skoufis 

 2    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 3    Corporations, Authorities and Commissions, 

 4    Assembly Bill Number 173A and substitute it for 

 5    the identical Senate Bill 6165A, Third Reading 

 6    Calendar 323.

 7                 Senator Rivera moves to discharge, 

 8    from the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

 9    Number 755B and substitute it for the identical 

10    Senate Bill 5056B, Third Reading Calendar 558.

11                 Senator Stec moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Investigations and 

13    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 9334A 

14    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

15    8588A, Third Reading Calendar 714.

16                 Senator Sepúlveda moves to 

17    discharge, from the Committee on Finance, 

18    Assembly Bill Number 4603A and substitute it for 

19    the identical Senate Bill 5037A, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 847.  

21                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Veterans, Homeland Security 

23    and Military Affairs, Assembly Bill Number 3450A 

24    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

25    3194A, Third Reading Calendar 1159.


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 1                 Senator Persaud moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Women's Issues, 

 3    Assembly Bill Number 10045 and substitute it for 

 4    the identical Senate Bill 8894, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 1321.  

 6                 Senator Fernandez moves to 

 7    discharge, from the Committee on Elections, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 8388 and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 1809, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 1348.

11                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Energy and 

13    Telecommunications, Assembly Bill Number 1012A 

14    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

15    5189, Third Reading Calendar 1357.

16                 Senator Bailey moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Insurance, Assembly Bill 

18    Number 6561B and substitute it for the identical 

19    Senate Bill 6551A, Third Reading Calendar 1362.

20                 Senator Mattera moves to discharge, 

21    from the Committee on Investigations and 

22    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 7839A 

23    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

24    7605A, Third Reading Calendar 1368.

25                 Senator Weber moves to discharge, 


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 1    from the Committee on Labor, Assembly Bill 

 2    Number 10162 and substitute it for the identical 

 3    Senate Bill 9058, Third Reading Calendar 1393.

 4                 Senator Ramos moves to discharge, 

 5    from the Committee on Labor, Assembly Bill Number 

 6    10365 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

 7    Bill 9330, Third Reading Calendar 1403.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   So 

 9    ordered.  

10                 Messages from the Governor.

11                 Reports of standing committees.  

12                 Reports of select committees.  

13                 Communications and reports from 

14    state officers.  

15                 Motions and resolutions.

16                 The man of the hour:  Senator 

17    Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

19    Mr. President.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Good 

21    afternoon.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's begin with 

23    some motions.

24                 I wish to call up the following 

25    bills, which were recalled from the Assembly and 


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 1    are now at the desk:  Senate Bill 3852B and 

 2    Senate Bill 1463A.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 4    amendments are received, and the bills will 

 5    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.  

 6                 Excuse me one second.  

 7                 The Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    102, Senate Print 3852B, by Senator Hinchey, an 

10    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

11                 Calendar Number 644, Senate Print 

12    1463A, by Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the 

13    Environmental Conservation Law.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

15    reconsider the votes by which these bills were 

16    passed.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll on reconsideration.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   These 

22    bills are restored to their place on the 

23    Third Reading Calendar.  

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

25    following amendments.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2    amendments are received.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I also have 

 4    amendments to the following Third Reading 

 5    Calendar bills:

 6                 By Senator Martinez, page 4, 

 7    Calendar 181, Senate Print 194C; 

 8                 Senator Baskin, page 7, Calendar 

 9    362, Senate Print 9057; 

10                 Senator Webb, page 30, Calendar 

11    1094, Senate Print 6230B;  

12                 Senator May, page 54, Calendar 1401, 

13    Senate Print 9305; 

14                 Senator Skoufis, page 55, Calendar 

15    1408, Senate Print 9541; 

16                 And Senator Fahy, page 40, Calendar 

17    1228, Senate Print 9468. 

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   These 

19    amendments are received, and these bills will 

20    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

21                 Senator Gianaris.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please call on 

23    Senator Lanza for a motion.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

25    Lanza.


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 1                 SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  

 3                 I wish to call up my bill, 

 4    Senate Print Number 5900, recalled from the 

 5    Assembly, which is now at the desk.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 7    Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    872, Senate Print 5900, by Senator Lanza, an act 

10    to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

11                 SENATOR LANZA:   I now move to 

12    reconsider the vote by which the bill was 

13    passed.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll on reconsideration.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

20    Calendar.

21                 SENATOR LANZA:   I now offer the 

22    following amendments.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    amendments are received.

25                 Senator Gianaris.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now, 

 2    Mr. President, let's take up privileged 

 3    Resolution 2318, by Leader Stewart-Cousins, read 

 4    it in its entirety -- 

 5                 (Laughter.)

 6                 UNIDENTIFIED SENATOR:  Slowly.

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   -- very slowly, 

 8    and recognize first Senator Myrie to speak on the 

 9    resolution.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

11    a privileged resolution at the desk.

12                 The Secretary will read.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 2318, by 

14    Senator Stewart-Cousins, celebrating 

15    Senator Michael N. Gianaris upon the occasion of 

16    his designation as the recipient of the 

17    President Pro Tempore and Senate Majority 

18    Leader's Legislative Legacy Award.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

20    Myrie -- 

21                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

22                 (Extended laughter.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Lanza, in its entirety.  You may wish to 

25    interject.  


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   "WHEREAS, It is the 

 2    sense of this Legislative Body to recognize those 

 3    esteemed public servants whose careers have been 

 4    marked by an abiding dedication to justice, 

 5    fairness, and the betterment of their 

 6    communities; among them stands Senator Michael N. 

 7    Gianaris, a public servant whose presence did far 

 8    more than fill a seat, and who has left an 

 9    indelible impact on the very character of the 

10    institution he helped lead; and

11                 "WHEREAS, Senator Gianaris was born 

12    and raised in Astoria, Queens, the proud son of 

13    Greek immigrants whose values of hard work and 

14    civic responsibility shaped his life's calling; 

15    he graduated summa cum laude from 

16    Fordham University and earned his Juris Doctor  

17    from Harvard Law School, preparing him for a long 

18    and accomplished career in public service; and

19                 "WHEREAS, Before his election to 

20    public office, he built a distinguished record of 

21    public service through multiple roles across 

22    government, serving as an aide to Congressman 

23    Thomas Manton, as Queens Regional Representative 

24    to Governor Mario Cuomo, and as a counsel to the 

25    Speaker of the New York State Assembly; and


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 1                 "WHEREAS, In 2000, he was elected to 

 2    the New York State Assembly, becoming the first 

 3    Greek-American ever elected to public office from 

 4    New York City, a milestone that reflects both his 

 5    heritage and the deep trust placed in him by the 

 6    communities he has long served; in the Assembly, 

 7    he championed consumer protection, environmental  

 8    protection, government reform, and public safety; 

 9    and

10                 "WHEREAS, Senator Gianaris was 

11    elected to the New York State Senate in 2010 to 

12    represent the 12th Senate District, which 

13    includes the Queens neighborhoods of Long Island 

14    City, Sunnyside, Astoria and parts of other 

15    neighborhoods in Western Queens; during his 

16    16-year tenure, he became one of the most 

17    influential voices in the chamber, rising to 

18    Deputy Majority Leader upon appointment by 

19    Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, and 

20    building an impressive legislative record defined 

21    by meaningful protections and bold reforms 

22    grounded in justice, fairness, and 

23    accountability; and 

24                 "WHEREAS, A leading champion for  

25    tenants and housing justice, he helped pass the 


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 1    2019 rent reforms with the HSTPA, authored the 

 2    Housing Our Neighbors With Dignity Act to  

 3    convert distressed properties into supportive 

 4    housing, and helped usher in Good Cause Eviction 

 5    protections; he worked to transform New York's 

 6    criminal justice system by writing legislation to 

 7    eliminate cash bail, creating an Innocence 

 8    Commission, and advancing reforms to 'ban  

 9    discriminatory citizens' arrests and protect 

10    habeas corpus rights'; he spearheaded sweeping 

11    election reforms to strengthen access and 

12    participation in the electoral process, including 

13    expanding voter registration, enacting early 

14    voting and vote by mail, championing automatic 

15    voter registration, consolidating primaries, and 

16    advancing redistricting reforms to ensure fairer 

17    representation for all New Yorkers; and   

18                 "WHEREAS, Senator Gianaris authored 

19    and championed numerous other consequential laws, 

20    including fighting for and helping to advance 

21    LGBTQ+ rights, securing record funding for mass 

22    transit, pushing for increased accessibility  

23    through the free bus pilot program; authoring the 

24    NY HERO Act to protect workers during the 

25    COVID-19 pandemic; challenging polluting power 


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 1    plants, ensuring utility employees received a 

 2    prevailing wage; strengthening consumer 

 3    protections through the nation's first Airline 

 4    Passenger Bill of Rights, and advancing major 

 5    animal welfare legislation like the Puppy Mill 

 6    Pipeline Act; he also led the successful 

 7    opposition to the proposed Amazon HQ2 project in 

 8    Long Island City; his career has been defined not 

 9    only by legislative victories but by fierce 

10    advocacy for working families, tenants, 

11    immigrants, consumers, and all those who rely on 

12    government to stand up for them; and 

13                 "WHEREAS, Senator Gianaris is widely 

14    regarded not only as one of the sharpest minds in 

15    New York State politics, but as a strategist 

16    whose instincts are the stuff of Capitol legend; 

17    he is known for his ability to read a room 

18    instantly, anticipate political shifts before 

19    anyone else senses it, and navigate complex 

20    negotiations with precision and patience; it is a 

21    combination that has made him a trusted leader, a 

22    steady hand in moments of uncertainty, and a 

23    force whose presence can change the entire 

24    temperature of the chamber; and 

25                 "WHEREAS, He is known to be an 


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 1    exceptional Floor Leader and debater; his command 

 2    of policy, quick wit, and ability to 'verbally 

 3    spar' when necessary, while still remaining 

 4    deeply likable and poised, make him both a 

 5    formidable opponent and a respected colleague; 

 6    members on both sides of the aisle admire his 

 7    intelligence, integrity, meticulous preparation, 

 8    humor, and his legendary talent for remembering 

 9    exactly what someone said three years ago and 

10    deploying it gracefully, devastatingly, and 

11    usually to great comedic effect during debate; 

12    and 

13                 "WHEREAS, Beyond his public  

14    achievements, Senator Gianaris is a devoted 

15    husband, father, son, and brother; his colleagues 

16    know him as someone who loves cats and his 

17    dog Fred, and for whom devotion to the New York 

18    Mets and enthusiasm for Star Wars are 

19    unmistakable parts of who he is, infusing even 

20    the most serious legislative moments with levity 

21    and humor; his humor has long served as a 

22    reminder that even in the most serious moments, 

23    public service can still make room for joy, 

24    imagination, and laughter; and 

25                 "WHEREAS, Within these halls, he has 


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 1    not only been a colleague but a mentor, guiding,  

 2    shaping new talent, and elevating many of the 

 3    great voices who have served in the New York 

 4    State Legislature; and 

 5                 "WHEREAS, After more than a 

 6    quarter-century of public service, 

 7    Senator Gianaris has chosen to end his storied 

 8    tenure in Albany to return home to his beloved 

 9    Queens and embrace his most cherished role as a 

10    devoted husband, father, and son; as he retires 

11    from the New York State Senate, he leaves behind 

12    a legacy of courage, conviction, transformative 

13    leadership, and a lifelong commitment to lifting 

14    up those most in need, a legacy that will 

15    continue to shape New York for generations to 

16    come; now, therefore, be it 

17                 "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

18    Body pause in its deliberations to honor 

19    Senator Michael N. Gianaris upon the occasion of 

20    his designation as the recipient of the  

21    President Pro Tempore and Senate Majority 

22    Leader's Legislative Legacy Award, and to express 

23    its deepest gratitude for his decades of service, 

24    his legislative achievements, and his unwavering 

25    dedication to the people of Queens and the State 


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 1    of New York; and be it further 

 2                 "RESOLVED, That a copy of this  

 3    Resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted  

 4    to Senator Michael N. Gianaris with the highest 

 5    esteem and appreciation of this Legislative Body. 

 6    May the Force be with you."

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Myrie on the resolution.  

10                 SENATOR MYRIE:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 And first let me congratulate 

13    Senator Gianaris on the -- receiving the 

14    Legacy Award.  

15                 This is going to be an emotional 

16    day, I imagine, for many of us.  For the Class of 

17    2018, it carries special emotion because the 

18    State Senate that we have known, that we have 

19    experienced, has only been on this side, in the 

20    Majority, where we have been able to fight for so 

21    many vulnerable New Yorkers.  

22                 And if you are a vulnerable 

23    New Yorker in this state, you need to know who 

24    Senator Gianaris is, because your life has been 

25    made better by his fight and by his leadership 


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 1    and by his feistiness.  A dogged advocate for so 

 2    many people that will never know who he is.  But 

 3    we know who he is.

 4                 So I don't want to go through all of 

 5    the accomplishments.  You heard some of that in 

 6    the resolution.  I just want to take this time to 

 7    publicly say thank you.  

 8                 Thank you for being the leader who 

 9    you are.  Thank you for believing in young 

10    leadership, in investing in us when we didn't 

11    know what the hell we were doing.  You took us 

12    under your wing.  You showed us the way.  And you 

13    gave us the tools to be successful.  

14                 So I really want to say thank you, 

15    and how deeply you will be missed.  And I also 

16    want to say that out of all of the 

17    accomplishments on this floor that you have 

18    achieved, the accomplishments outside of this 

19    building that we cannot speak about on this 

20    floor, the greatest accomplishment you've ever 

21    achieved is sitting in this corner over here.  

22                 You became a different man when you 

23    got married.  

24                 (Laughter.)

25                 SENATOR MYRIE:   A little softer.  


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 1                 (Laughter.)

 2                 SENATOR MYRIE:   A little kinder.

 3                 (Laughter.)

 4                 SENATOR MYRIE:   More compassionate.  

 5                 And then you became even better when 

 6    you had Zoe.  

 7                 This is what it's about:  Family.  

 8    That's where you have been the real leader.  And 

 9    you have shown us, especially to those of us 

10    trying to do the same thing, that you can do both 

11    and that you can choose the right thing when it's 

12    time.  

13                 Thank you for choosing them.  Thank 

14    you for being an example.  We love you.  We will 

15    miss you.  And congratulations on a legendary 

16    career here in the Capitol.  

17                 I vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

19    you, Senator.

20                 Senator Stavisky on the resolution.

21                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  

23                 Senator Myrie just said pretty much 

24    what I was going to say.  

25                 To Senator Stewart-Cousins, thank 


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 1    you for what you have done in really introducing 

 2    the conference to Senator Gianaris.  

 3                 And this is to me a remarkable team, 

 4    a remarkable team.  But Senator Gianaris's legacy 

 5    has been outlined particularly in the resolution 

 6    but also by Senator Myrie, and his impact is not 

 7    the elections, it's what resulted from the 

 8    elections -- the legislation, the landmark 

 9    legislation in every area, for the marginalized, 

10    for the people who feel ignored and 

11    unrepresented, we have Senator Gianaris to thank.

12                 And yes, Zoe, when you grow up and 

13    you listen to this tape, you will realize the 

14    effect that your daddy has had on everybody.  

15                 I've known Senator Gianaris really 

16    since his days when he was a staffer.  And he has 

17    just demonstrated remarkable leadership in all 

18    the right things.  

19                 So to you and to your family, we 

20    thank you for what you've done and for what the 

21    future will bring.  

22                 Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

24    you, Senator.

25                 Senator Borrello on the resolution.


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 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

 2    Madam President.  I promise not to curse.  

 3                 (Laughter.)

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   First of all, I 

 5    want to say my first year here -- really, I came 

 6    in a special election at the end of 2019, and my 

 7    first session was 2020.  I was literally the only 

 8    member of my freshman class, the only legislative 

 9    contest actually in 2019 because of the special 

10    election.  So I was one of one.  

11                 And then boom, the pandemic hit.  We 

12    had this chamber empty except for a few necessary 

13    folks.  And one day I came in and I saw 

14    Senator Gianaris in his mask, and it had the 

15    starbird on it, which is the symbol of the 

16    Rebel Alliance from Star Wars.  

17                 And I looked at him and said, "So 

18    are you a Star Wars fan or just a rebel?"  And 

19    his response was "I'm both."  And it started a 

20    connection, because I too am a big Star Wars fan.  

21                 And for a long time we were very 

22    much like the Jedi.  We were behind the scenes.  

23    We were, you know, quietly talking about our 

24    fandom.  And then a few more joined us, like 

25    Senator Rivera and Senator Stec.  And even 


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 1    Leader Ortt is a Star Wars Fan.  So our numbers 

 2    began to grow.  

 3                 And then it culminated last year 

 4    when we celebrated Star Wars Day, where we just 

 5    shook off the hiding and said, We are unabashed, 

 6    unapologetic Star Wars fans -- 

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   -- here in this 

 9    chamber.  And actually in a bipartisan way.  And 

10    it was an amazing experience, from having a 

11    lightsaber duel on the Senate floor to having 

12    Storm Troopers here.  

13                 But alas, it is not all good things.  

14    Because Senator Gianaris is a Marvel fan, and I 

15    am a DC fan, since he is wrong and I am right.

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   However, it was 

18    a pleasure.  Because even though we sparred on 

19    this floor many, many times over the last 

20    six years, we were able to connect on something 

21    that we all -- that I think we all know and love.  

22    And it shows once again that Star Wars can 

23    transcend even divisive politics.  

24                 So thank you very much for what 

25    you've done here, and enjoy your retirement.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator.  

 3                 And I'm pleased that you did not 

 4    curse, because both of Senator Gianaris's 

 5    daughters, Orla and Zoe, are here.  So we want to 

 6    make sure they're not hearing, you know, things 

 7    that they should not hear.

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So thank 

10    you.

11                 Senator Mayer on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 And it really is both an honor and 

15    somewhat sad for us to have to speak about our 

16    friend Mike Gianaris.  And thank you, Leader, for 

17    giving him this honor.

18                 I would say for me personally I 

19    would not be here except for Senator Gianaris, 

20    who when I decided to run from the Assembly for a 

21    special election that was quite instrumental in 

22    what the future of the Senate would look like, 

23    Senator Gianaris took me under his wing.  And 

24    together we were able to prevail and then 

25    ultimately become the Democratic Majority.  


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 1                 And it was this combination of 

 2    substance -- policy substance, as we've 

 3    instructed about today, the issues that really 

 4    mattered to the people that we represent, 

 5    regardless of where they live, coupled with a 

 6    tremendous knowledge of the process.  

 7                 And that's one other thing I want to 

 8    talk about.  I've been here in many different 

 9    iterations and seen many floor leaders over my 

10    time.  This is a very hard job to do well.  It is 

11    a hard job to keep all the members of your own 

12    conference in line.  Forget the other side, 

13    that's hard too.  

14                 And Mike Gianaris has done this in 

15    an exemplary way.  Not only to be able to 

16    navigate so well with the Minority Conference and 

17    so collegially most of the time.  

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR MAYER:   Occasionally he 

20    gets his zingers in, with a long memory.  We 

21    appreciate that.  But also to, again, be focused 

22    on what's important, to try to stay away from the 

23    small, the personal, and focus on what our charge 

24    is here to do, which is to do the people's 

25    business, to disagree, and then to vote.


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 1                 And so I'm just incredibly grateful 

 2    for his leadership in this chamber, and on the 

 3    issues that matter to all of the people of 

 4    New York State.  We are just -- have been 

 5    incredibly blessed to have had him as our deputy, 

 6    and not only that -- as our guide, guiding star.  

 7                 We will miss him.  We will call him.  

 8    We will bother him.  And thank you, Mike, for 

 9    everything you've done.

10                 Thank you.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

12    you, Senator.

13                 Senator Griffo on the resolution.

14                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   Madam President, I 

15    believe there's an amendment at the desk.

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    amendments are received.

19                 (Laughter.)

20                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   You know, it kind 

21    of -- we talked a lot about music in the chamber 

22    today, Senator Gianaris, and in the past.  And 

23    I'm thinking of something on this side, after 

24    16 years of you being here, and I'm thinking 

25    of -- for all of us here, I'm thinking of 


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 1    Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men, how sweet it is we 

 2    say goodbye today.

 3                 (Reaction from members.)

 4                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   Having had -- seen 

 5    it all, I thought we'd do a little bit of a 

 6    roast, right?  But --

 7                 (Reaction from members.)

 8                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   By the way, the 

 9    award that's being delivered, the Legacy Award, 

10    is that going to be delivered with someone in an 

11    orange and black uniform, bringing it into the 

12    chamber?  

13                 (Laughter; inaudible.)

14                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   Yes.  Yes.  

15    Amazon.  

16                 (Laughter.) 

17                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   All right.  Like 

18    as a former floor leader, having had the 

19    opportunity also to work with Senator Gianaris as 

20    we did this, I can tell you how difficult it can 

21    be.  And Senator Lanza knows that now too.  

22                 Being a leader on the floor is 

23    arduous, it's challenging, it's demanding.  And I 

24    know that each and every day you have undertaken 

25    that task as well as Senator Lanza and I 


                                                               6392

 1    attempted, to do what we can to keep this chamber 

 2    moving.  Because it is about the institution.  

 3                 Despite political and philosophic 

 4    differences, we know there's a great respect for 

 5    the Senate and this great place that we have the 

 6    opportunity to work in right now.  And I 

 7    appreciate that work.  

 8                 It always did give me great 

 9    pleasure, though, Senator Gianaris, as a 

10    Yankee fan, when I was at the podium, to be able 

11    to rule your point of order nongermane and out of 

12    order, but as a -- for a Met fan.  

13                 But we had a lot of experience over 

14    time here.  And I think one of the greatest 

15    things here is not only the pride that you took 

16    in your ancestry -- we talked about the 

17    Olive Caucus, many people of the Mediterranean  

18    ancestry here -- pride in your work and in your 

19    service, your public service, but most 

20    importantly the devotion to the family.  

21                 Hearing you talk about your family, 

22    your wife, your daughters, particularly when Zoe 

23    was born, it did have a transformational effect.  

24    And hopefully that will work as you continue to 

25    put that energy into your family moving forward.


                                                               6393

 1                 So wish you the best of luck, and 

 2    happy years with the family.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator.

 5                 Senator Bailey on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 There used to be a show on -- I 

 9    think it was on CBS, but I've only caught it in 

10    reruns, it's called The King of Queens.  The 

11    alleged King of Queens was a guy named 

12    Kevin James.  And Jerry Stiller was on it, was 

13    the real star of the show.  

14                 But the real King of Queens is 

15    Mike Gianaris.  You don't get to be somewhere for 

16    25 years and not just a compiler, not just 

17    somebody who sat in a seat just to sit in a seat.  

18    This was somebody who used the force.

19                 Now, I know nothing about Star Wars.  

20    I know -- but I know two phrases.  I know the 

21    force, and the force is about strength and 

22    utilizing strength in certain ways.  It's about 

23    utilizing the hammer or the thread and needle.  

24    Mike Gianaris knows how to do both.  

25                 When it's time for the hammer -- you 


                                                               6394

 1    guys know about the hammer.  The hammer comes 

 2    out.  The hammer came out when it came time to 

 3    take this majority.  

 4                 But the threading the needle comes 

 5    out when it comes time for legislative statutory 

 6    construction, making sure that we have the tools 

 7    to build this place.  You see, we need the 

 8    foundation.  And Mike, you've been able to do 

 9    that.  You've been able to thread that needle 

10    artfully.

11                 We would not have achieved criminal 

12    justice reform without you.  We did a lot of 

13    great things.  And as the chair of the 

14    Codes Committee, I got a lot of the credit and 

15    the blame.  But if not for you in those rooms 

16    that we stayed up until 2 o'clock in the morning, 

17    your voice and your measured approach when I was 

18    not so measured, when many of us were not so 

19    measured.  And there was something to the effect 

20    of we want to win this one, we want to keep 

21    winning.  And that's what it was about.

22                 So I remember -- I don't know if 

23    Mike remembers, but I remember him from when I 

24    was an intern.  I was in this building from 

25    22 years ago.  I was an intern for 


                                                               6395

 1    Speaker Heastie, and that's when Mike was in 

 2    the Assembly.  

 3                 And I just like -- you know, you 

 4    read people's bios and stuff like that, you know 

 5    what you know.  And I'm like, this guy went to 

 6    Harvard and he's here?  Why is a Harvard Law 

 7    graduate who can probably do anything he wants, 

 8    here?  

 9                 Well, it's to create lasting legacy.  

10    It's to create lasting policy.  It's to create 

11    things that are greater than you can imagine.

12                 So I -- as a student of government, 

13    I followed it, and I decided to embark on this 

14    mission myself.  

15                 And I remember I got a call from 

16    Mike, he said meet me somewhere in Queens -- I 

17    don't know where it was at.  Somewhere I hadn't 

18    been.  Oh, I'm a Met fan too, so all I know about 

19    Queens is like CUNY Law School and Citi Field and 

20    Shea Stadium.  Those are the only places I know.  

21                 But we sat down and talked, and he 

22    had a clear vision about how we would get on this 

23    side.  We went to a Met playoff game, and I'm 

24    like, man, this Senate thing might not be so bad.  

25                 Then I sat over there, and that 


                                                               6396

 1    seemed to be in a galaxy far, far away.  It 

 2    seemed like we were far, far away from achieving 

 3    what we spoke about at dinner and at lunch that 

 4    day about what we'd be able to do.  But with 

 5    Mike Gianaris at the helm, we came out of -- 

 6    started from the bottom, or as the leader likes 

 7    to say, we were below the bottom.  

 8                 I -- I -- it's just really good to 

 9    see good people do good things.  And for us to be 

10    able to do good things under Mike's leadership 

11    has been incredible.

12                 I imagine it's really weird for you 

13    to sit here listening to people give you credit, 

14    but let this be a testament in today's 

15    conversation and all conversations about people 

16    that we are about, give them their flowers while 

17    they can smell them.  

18                 Tell Mike how much he's impacted 

19    your life, impacted your career.  Many of us 

20    wouldn't be in these seats if not for him.  Tell 

21    him that on the floor, tell him that next year, 

22    tell him that two years from now.  Make sure you 

23    tell people that you care about and that you love 

24    that you love them.

25                 The Dad Caucus, when you joined the 


                                                               6397

 1    Dad Caucus, I was glad.  That's the only thing I 

 2    had on you, Mike.  Like you were Assembly first, 

 3    Senate first, deputy leader, all of that.  I was 

 4    dad.  So I got to tell you about the dad 

 5    experience.  And you always listened and asked 

 6    for advice.  

 7                 And to me, that's the most important 

 8    thing that we'll ever do in our lives, is be 

 9    fathers.  This is a great job.  But being a dad?  

10                 The joy when you showed us the 

11    pictures of Zoe.  The joy that when you welcomed 

12    Orla and we created the Bluey Caucus and I talked 

13    to Orla about Bluey and how much my daughters 

14    loved it too.  And the smile that went to your 

15    face that you can't fake.  It's not a -- in front 

16    of the cameras, it was a real like, man, I love 

17    this woman that I'm married to, and I love these 

18    women that are my daughters, and I love being 

19    here.  And I love being here so much that I got 

20    to leave here.

21                 So it's because of you leaving that 

22    the Knicks are going to win the championship.  

23                 (Laughter.)

24                 SENATOR BAILEY:   No, it's written, 

25    Madam President.  It is written.


                                                               6398

 1                 But it's been an honor to be a part 

 2    of the floor team along with you.  It's been an 

 3    honor to learn from you.  And just because you 

 4    leave state service officially does not mean that 

 5    I'm going to stop calling you and asking you for 

 6    advice and calling you and asking you for things 

 7    and calling you and asking you to help.  Because 

 8    I treasure you, I appreciate you.  

 9                 And like I told you, about you've 

10    got to make sure you tell people you love them, I 

11    love you, Mike.  I appreciate you.  In a galaxy 

12    far, far away, the force is always with you.  

13                 Job well done.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

15    you, Senator.

16                 Senator Gallivan on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  

19                 I too rise to congratulate 

20    Senator Gianaris on this award, the Legacy Award, 

21    and his imminent retirement.  

22                 I first met Mike about 16 years ago 

23    or so ago.  I think we were 11 or 12 in the same 

24    class.  And there's not many left standing -- 

25    Gustavo, Senator Rivera, you're the last one left 


                                                               6399

 1    representing on that side.  

 2                 Senator Myrie, I can tell you, 

 3    though, when I started I experienced Mike from 

 4    that side like you, when he was on this side.  He 

 5    was the same.  

 6                 (Laughter.)

 7                 SENATOR GALLIVAN:   And like many of 

 8    you who have said that you wouldn't be here if it 

 9    wasn't for Senator Gianaris, neither would we.  

10                 (Laughter.)

11                 SENATOR GALLIVAN:   It doesn't mean 

12    we don't try.

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Senator Mayer 

15    mentioned that this is not an easy job, and it's 

16    not.  Many of us of us care about our community, 

17    we care about the things that we believe in, and 

18    you stand up for it.  And when we're in the 

19    chamber, as Senator Borrello alluded to, we have 

20    a rivalry, we disagree on things, we go back and 

21    forth.  

22                 I can assure you that unlike 

23    Senator Borrello, I'm never going to find that 

24    common ground in Star Wars.  But what I can find 

25    the common ground in is standing up for what you 


                                                               6400

 1    believe in and standing up for your constituents 

 2    whether any of us agree with the others or not.  

 3                 But most importantly -- a few people 

 4    have mentioned it -- the most common ground I can 

 5    find with you, Senator Gianaris, is putting your 

 6    family first.  And there's no better reason for 

 7    you to step in that direction now and move on.  

 8                 I wish you the best of luck.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    Skoufis on the resolution.  

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

12    much, Mr. President.  

13                 All of us at various points, we 

14    receive sympathy from our friends, our family, 

15    about how difficult it must be to juggle being a 

16    public servant and elected official come to 

17    Albany and their family commitments, their 

18    personal livelihoods, et cetera.

19                 So we're all Senators.  Senator 

20    Gianaris is a Senator, but he's a lot of other 

21    things too.  He's Deputy Majority Leader, 

22    Floor Leader.  He's the DSCC chair.  He's the 

23    Rules Committee chair.  He's the chair of some 

24    other groups we're not allowed to talk about in 

25    this place.  He's chair of LATFOR.  He's a father 


                                                               6401

 1    and a husband.  

 2                 The sacrifice, quite literally, is 

 3    unparalleled in this chamber, with the one 

 4    exception being our Majority Leader.  And that's 

 5    why I suspect he's I believe only the second 

 6    person in my eight years to receive the 

 7    Majority Leader's Legacy Award, the other being 

 8    Senator Breslin.  The third, it sounds like, 

 9    perhaps, yeah.

10                 The dais shared a handful of 

11    landmark pieces of legislation that 

12    Senator Gianaris is credited for.  To be clear, 

13    those are the bills, a sampling of the bills 

14    where he was the prime sponsor.  That's why those 

15    were listed off in this resolution.  

16                 There is not a single piece of major 

17    legislation, however, that has come through this 

18    chamber that does not have Senator Gianaris's 

19    fingerprints on them.  Literally every single 

20    major piece of legislation, he is in the room 

21    with our Majority Leader, helping craft those 

22    bills that are brought to the floor, not just the 

23    ones certainly with his name next to them.

24                 I have a five-year-old at home.  

25    When I told her this weekend that this was going 


                                                               6402

 1    to be my last week in Albany for the year, her 

 2    eyes lit up and she let out a "Hooray!"  True.  

 3    And anyone that has children empathizes and knows 

 4    exactly what I'm talking about.

 5                 And so while, yes, the Greek Caucus 

 6    is devastated -- our numbers are being slashed 

 7    once Senator Gianaris departs our conference and 

 8    this chamber -- we've been privileged to count 

 9    Senator Gianaris as a colleague.  New York has 

10    been extraordinarily fortunate to benefit from 

11    Senator Gianaris's service over the past almost 

12    three decades.  But his family now gets to enjoy 

13    him full-time, which is something we can all 

14    appreciate.

15                 Thank you for being a friend since 

16    2016, when you tried to recruit me to run for a 

17    seat in this place.  For a variety of reasons, 

18    not the least of which is on a good day I can be 

19    insufferable -- I can only imagine how 

20    insufferable I would have been in the Minority if 

21    I had run and won that year -- I'm glad it's the 

22    only time you've been unsuccessful, in my 

23    experience, at least.  

24                 You're a powerful voice in this 

25    place.  You've been an incredible friend to me 


                                                               6403

 1    and so many others.  I like, so many others, 

 2    attribute you as one of if not the main reason 

 3    why I am here today, and wish you nothing but the 

 4    best with your family in the years ahead.  

 5                 I vote yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 7    you, Senator Skoufis.

 8                 Senator Rivera on the resolution.

 9                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.

11                 When we were told that today would 

12    be the day that we would have an opportunity to 

13    talk about our colleague, Mike Gianaris, I just 

14    thought maybe this was a perfect opportunity to 

15    roast the gentleman.  

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 SENATOR RIVERA:   I was promptly 

18    reminded by Mike that his family would be here, 

19    and so I will save some of the comments that I 

20    would have made for another time.  

21                 But in all seriousness, as 

22    Senator Gallivan reminded us, so we were elected 

23    in 2010.  Now, Mike was around in the Legislature 

24    for longer than that, but I got to meet him in 

25    2010 when we both got elected.  So that means 


                                                               6404

 1    that we have been around for all that time.  And 

 2    during that time what I have known him as, as has 

 3    been described of and over again, was somebody 

 4    who was not only incredibly smart, dogged, 

 5    figures out to do -- when to be soft, when not to 

 6    be soft, and somebody who fights for his 

 7    constituents and so many things around the state.  

 8                 And I've known him as somebody who 

 9    believes deeply in how the work that we do in 

10    here has to be taken -- we have to take into 

11    account that the work that we do in here changes 

12    people's lives and can change them for the 

13    better.  And so it was a little surprising when 

14    he said that he was not going to do it anymore, 

15    at least to me.

16                 Now, as our -- Mr. President was 

17    saying, there's the Daddy Caucus, which I 

18    obviously am not one of those people.  But in all 

19    seriousness, I remember talking to him and many 

20    of the conversations that we've had over dinner 

21    over the years -- we always switch off.  I go to 

22    Queens one time, and then the next time he comes 

23    to the Bronx, and we have been doing that for 

24    years.  

25                 And many of those conversations were 


                                                               6405

 1    always about how are we going to achieve this 

 2    policy area, how are we going to do this 

 3    electoral thing, what about this political thing, 

 4    what about this political thing.  

 5                 And this last one that we had just a 

 6    couple of months ago, it was after I had found 

 7    out that he was saying that he was retiring.  And 

 8    when I asked him, So what made you make the 

 9    decision, and just -- the little smile that came 

10    over his eyes was -- told me that he absolutely 

11    meant it when he said that looking into his 

12    daughter's eyes, and knowing that he needed to be 

13    there for her, was what the next chapter in his 

14    life needed to be.

15                 And he also told me about -- that he 

16    leaves here content and on his own terms, because 

17    he knows that he's done so much to change this 

18    institution and to change the state for the 

19    better.

20                 And so it is -- as some of my 

21    colleagues have already said, you will be missed 

22    greatly, because you certainly have been not only 

23    a leader in this state and a leader in this body, 

24    but certainly, for me, somebody that has been a 

25    constant inspiration and somebody who has tried 


                                                               6406

 1    to get me to calm down many a time.  And you have 

 2    not always been successful, but I certainly thank 

 3    you for trying.

 4                 But in all seriousness, I am glad 

 5    that you are making this choice on your own terms 

 6    and for the best of reasons.  My brother, you 

 7    will be missed, but I am looking forward to 

 8    having many conversations.

 9                 The last thing I'll say, one thing 

10    that happens all the time, and I was telling his 

11    wife this yesterday, I have -- and this is true 

12    for every single person I have ever seen who has 

13    left either the Legislature or the legislative 

14    body or politics, et cetera.  Whether they get 

15    defeated, whether they retire, what have you, 

16    within a month or a month and a half they look 

17    younger, more well-rested, they look better.  

18                 So I'm telling you, you think he's 

19    handsome now, just you wait.  

20                 (Laughter.)

21                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Give it two 

22    months, the brother will wake up in the morning 

23    just happy as a clam and he will be even more 

24    awesome than usual.

25                 So again, Mike, have a wonderful, 


                                                               6407

 1    wonderful rest of your life, and I'll see you 

 2    soon.

 3                 I'll be voting in the affirmative, 

 4    Mr. President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator Rivera.

 7                 Senator Comrie on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.

10                 I rise to congratulate Mike on 

11    making a difficult decision, making a decision 

12    that benefits your family, making a decision 

13    that's noted of your 30-plus years of service in 

14    government and in politics and in community.  

15                 Folks have said so many things 

16    already, I don't want to be repetitive.  But I 

17    just want to say thank you for messing up my 

18    life.  

19                 (Laughter.)

20                 SENATOR COMRIE:   I was in a cushy 

21    job, making twice the salary --

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 SENATOR COMRIE:   -- big office.  

24    Left at 4 o'clock -- No, I'm just kidding.

25                 (Laughter.)


                                                               6408

 1                 SENATOR COMRIE:   But Mike reminded 

 2    me that there were more important things than 

 3    money.  There were more important things than 

 4    privilege.  There was an opportunity to come back 

 5    and serve the community.  

 6                 And I've got to thank you for that, 

 7    because you injected new purpose into me.  

 8    Because even though it was a cushy job, I was 

 9    bored as hell.  You know, it was not the same as 

10    being here in this body, in this august body with 

11    all of you, creating opportunities and -- but I 

12    didn't realize I was coming into a Minority that 

13    was -- at the time.  That was a whole 'nother 

14    experience, coming from the City Council where I 

15    was in leadership.

16                 But Mike taught me to be patient.  

17    Mike taught me to be deliberative.  Mike 

18    understood that it was important that we continue 

19    to work to serve our communities.  And he's had a 

20    vision and a focus that has been unparalleled.  

21                 It's important that we all realize 

22    in this -- that we love what we do, and that we 

23    have to show that love in different ways.  And 

24    sometimes it can be tough love.  Sometimes, you 

25    know, he's had to hold me back when my Leo anger 


                                                               6409

 1    gets upset and try to rein me in when I really 

 2    want to start grumbling and start creating 

 3    problems.  Because, you know, Leos like to fight, 

 4    and I have to hold that side of me in sometimes.  

 5                 And sometimes it's more important to 

 6    be strategic.  Sometimes it's more important to 

 7    be focused.  And sometimes you have to hold your 

 8    tongue in order to get things done.  And Mike has 

 9    taught me all of that.  He's reminded me of that.  

10                 I have to say in Queens County, Mike 

11    was a legend.  You know, when I first met Mike, 

12    it was over 30 years ago, and he was walking in 

13    and women were falling down all over the place at 

14    his feet because they just saw his good looks and 

15    they just saw his stride and his possession.  He 

16    didn't -- he didn't -- he wasn't aware of it at 

17    the time because he was focused on getting things 

18    done.  

19                 You know, he was never aware of the 

20    impact that he had being such a good-looking guy 

21    on the women in Queens.  

22                 (Sustained laughter.) 

23                 SENATOR COMRIE:   It was -- it 

24    was -- it was -- it was funny to me.  It was 

25    funny to me.  


                                                               6410

 1                 And I just wanted to share that with 

 2    you, because he still didn't realize it.  He 

 3    doesn't realize it to this day, his impact on 

 4    people in that way.  Because Mike has always been 

 5    focused on getting work done, on dealing with 

 6    legislation, on seeing people beyond their looks, 

 7    but seeing people for their passion, for their 

 8    understanding, and for their desire to be 

 9    involved in government one way or the other.

10                 I'm going to miss you terribly.  I'm 

11    not going to let you go, though.  You're going to 

12    be -- I'm going to be on the phone when I need to 

13    get that voice to hold me back, to rein me in, to 

14    make sure that, you know, we're doing the things 

15    necessary to move this state forward.  

16                 So you may be gone from this body, 

17    as other folks have said, but you won't be gone 

18    from us in person.

19                 But I again want to congratulate 

20    you.  I know this was a difficult decision to 

21    leave while you're cooking and you're on top, but 

22    to do it for the right reasons -- and you're 

23    doing it for wonderful reasons, three wonderful 

24    reasons, your wife and your two daughters.  

25                 I don't know if you're ready for him 


                                                               6411

 1    once he's on -- once he's full-time.  You may 

 2    change your mind after six months.  

 3                 (Laughter.)

 4                 SENATOR COMRIE:   But in either 

 5    case, I know that you will doing it with love, 

 6    with compassion.  

 7                 And thank you, Mike, for everything 

 8    that you've been to all of us.  Thank you for 

 9    what you've done for this state.  Thank you for 

10    being a great leader.

11                 Thank you.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

13    you, Senator Comrie.

14                 Senator May on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 For four years I've had the 

18    privilege of sitting right behind 

19    Senator Gianaris on this floor and have really 

20    been able to witness what an incredible 

21    multitasker he is, whether on the phone, on the 

22    Batphone with the front desk or otherwise 

23    managing the floor, being able to leap up at a 

24    moment's notice and deliver the perfect zinger in 

25    debate -- all of which he's been doing while 


                                                               6412

 1    watching Mets games or -- 

 2                 (Laughter.)

 3                 SENATOR MAY:   -- FaceTiming with 

 4    his family on his phone.  

 5                 (Laughter.)

 6                 SENATOR MAY:   And most miraculously 

 7    of all, he's always leaning so far back in his 

 8    chair, but he has never fallen over and whacked 

 9    his head.

10                 (Laughter.)

11                 SENATOR MAY:   Mike, I think of you 

12    as not just an amazing multitasker, but a friend 

13    and somebody -- really a role model and an 

14    inspiration to all of us.  

15                 But I am glad that you are 

16    consolidating your life and maybe not having to 

17    multitask quite so much so that you can spend 

18    time with your beautiful family.  

19                 It has been an honor working with 

20    you, and I vote aye.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

22    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                 Senator Gounardes to explain his 

24    vote -- on the resolution.  Excuse me, I don't 

25    know what -- I'm all messed up.  Today is 


                                                               6413

 1    Rachel May and Leroy Comrie making jokes.  

 2                 Andrew -- Senator Gounardes.

 3                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   All right.  My 

 4    turn, okay.  Thank you, Mr. President.  

 5                 You know, we talk a lot in this 

 6    chamber about representation, how representation 

 7    matters.  And Senator Skoufis alluded to the 

 8    Greek Caucus.  I want to tell you all what Mike's 

 9    leadership in the Greek-American community has 

10    meant, not just to me but to the hundreds of 

11    thousands of Greek Americans who live not just in 

12    New York but in the tristate area and who, 

13    frankly, live in the -- the millions who live 

14    across the country.

15                 You know, growing up we heard names 

16    like Dukakis and Tsongas and Sarbanes, and we 

17    spoke of them with reverence in households.  And 

18    on that list, Mike, was your name as well:  

19    Gianaris, Genárides {phonetic}.  Greek families, 

20    who saw his ascent into elected leadership -- and 

21    they were so incredibly proud that one of theirs 

22    had won the right to have a title and to speak on 

23    behalf of them and to fight on behalf of them.  

24                 And what a gift that is for all of 

25    us, to have you be that standard-bearer for our 


                                                               6414

 1    community.  And still to this day, that 

 2    reputation still holds.  

 3                 And you tell people that Mike is 

 4    stepping down, that he's leaving, and everyone's 

 5    just shocked.  There's a hush.  What are we going 

 6    to do?  He was ours.  He was our community's.  He 

 7    was New York's Greek champion.

 8                 And we don't know what we're going 

 9    to do yet.  Certainly I can't fill those shoes.  

10    James, sorry, you can't fill those shoes.  Nobody 

11    else can fill those shoes.  

12                 When I was first getting into 

13    interest in politics and I was -- in 2012 I 

14    wanted to run for office.  And I was scared to 

15    call Mike and ask for his advice because, again, 

16    you're calling the champion of your community, 

17    the person who can open doors for you or slam 

18    them in your face.  

19                 And from the very first time I spoke 

20    with Mike, not only did he open the door, but he 

21    held it wide open.  And he took me under his 

22    wing.  And when even those in our own community 

23    said, You know what, Andrew, it's not your time; 

24    Andrew, you're too young; Andrew, you don't know 

25    what it's like to have to run for office -- Mike 


                                                               6415

 1    never wavered in his mentorship, in his guidance.  

 2                 He coached me through some 

 3    incredibly difficult conversations.  He coached 

 4    me through how to salvage relationships that 

 5    meant a lot to me that in that moment were 

 6    fraying.  He was at my very first fundraiser back 

 7    in 2011.  And even though that election was not 

 8    successful, he has been a mentor and a guide and 

 9    a friend ever since.  

10                 And I certainly add myself amongst 

11    those who know for a fact that I would not be in 

12    this room without him, without his support, 

13    without his vision, and without his example.  

14    Because whether or not he had all those titles 

15    when I got elected, whether or not he was part of 

16    the vision that brought us here, he was certainly 

17    the person I was trying to emulate when I decided 

18    to put my own name forward for election again.

19                 And so, Mike, thank you is not 

20    enough for everything you've done for our 

21    community, for me, and for the countless others 

22    who hope to follow in our footsteps, but knowing 

23    that you are their example.

24                 I also have a slight bone to pick 

25    because when I told my wife why you were leaving, 


                                                               6416

 1    she said, "Well, what about you?"  

 2                 (Laughter.)

 3                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   And then when I 

 4    actually said to her -- this is true, I said, "I 

 5    haven't done nearly as much as he's accomplished 

 6    in his career.  And, you know, I'm not ready yet, 

 7    but" -- and I started rattling off the things 

 8    that he had done.  And then she said, "I get it.  

 9    I get it."

10                 So what a gift it must have been for 

11    you, Mike, to be able to touch so many lives for 

12    the better.  You've certainly touched all of 

13    ours.  And we're going to miss you, and we all 

14    say thank you.  

15                 I vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

17    you, Senator Gounardes.

18                 Senator Harckham on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

20    much, Mr. President.

21                 Senator Gianaris, congratulations on 

22    this award.  

23                 You know, a lot of things have been 

24    going through my mind.  I was struck, in the 

25    resolution where it said "and he remembers 


                                                               6417

 1    something that you said three years ago."  And it 

 2    just reminded me how he likes to remind 

 3    Senator Martins that he voted for Tier 6.  

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   At least once a 

 6    year that comes up.  More than once a year.  

 7                 I also learned from Mike -- I came 

 8    in in that Class of 2018.  And twice before, 

 9    Senator Gianaris had tried to recruit me to run.  

10    It just wasn't the right time in my life.  So 

11    when I finally got into the race, he was already 

12    backing other folks.  And so the lesson to me was 

13    not if you want the money you've got to get in 

14    the game early.  The lesson was when 

15    Senator Gianaris has bad news for you, he starts 

16    and says your last name and then there's a pause.  

17    So it's "Harckham ... we gave our money to other 

18    candidates."

19                 (Laughter.)

20                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   And then so for 

21    the next seven years I would get this annual 

22    phone call, in his role as chair of DSCC:  

23    Harckham -- all right, here it comes -- you're 

24    spending too much money.  

25                 (Laughter.)


                                                               6418

 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   And so finally I 

 2    got smart.  And this year there was a county 

 3    chair who called me for an exorbitant amount of 

 4    money to support an event they were doing.  And I 

 5    said, "Oh, I can't possibly do that.  Senator 

 6    Gianaris will kill me if I donate that much."

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   And so literally 

 9    a day later:  "Harckham ... who is this person 

10    and why are they saying I won't let you donate to 

11    their event?"  

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   So that was just 

14    some of the many hats.  

15                 But I would not be here were it not 

16    for Senator Gianaris and him interesting me, 

17    getting me interested in -- and excited about 

18    being in the role of the Senator.

19                 But I think what really impresses me 

20    about Senator Gianaris is that there's so many 

21    facets to what he does, and he is excellent at 

22    all of them.  

23                 You know, as someone who's been 

24    around this business a while, normally the policy 

25    and the politics are separate people.  You know, 


                                                               6419

 1    the polling, the strategy, the fundraising is 

 2    over here; the legislative and the policy wisdom 

 3    is over here.  And in Mike, it's -- it's joined.  

 4    I mean, he truly is an expert in all of these 

 5    areas.  And all of us have benefited.

 6                 But what it's always been about, and 

 7    what he always reminds us is it's about the work.  

 8    It's always about the work.  It's not about 

 9    anything that's outside.  It's about the work we 

10    do in here, and it's about the work we do back 

11    home.  

12                 And the other thing that has so 

13    impressed me about Senator Gianaris, after all 

14    his success and all his accolades, he's never 

15    forgotten who he is and where he comes from.  You 

16    know, he's just a boy from a working-class 

17    neighborhood in Queens, and that's who he fights 

18    for each and every day.  And he reminds us of 

19    that.

20                 So Mike, thank you.  You know, when 

21    people talk about how you've had to make a 

22    choice -- but as a father, there is no choice.  

23    And you'll know that very soon.

24                 So God bless you.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 


                                                               6420

 1    you, Senator Harckham.

 2                 Senator Liu on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR LIU:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.

 5                 No one's going to tell Mike this, so 

 6    I'm going to say it.  Star Wars is just fantasy.  

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR LIU:   Star Trek, on the 

 9    other hand -- 

10                 (Laughter.)

11                 SENATOR LIU:   -- is based in 

12    science and reality.  

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR LIU:   But, you know, I will 

15    concede this.  That Mike G., he's got the force, 

16    Mr. President.  He has been a force.  And he will 

17    continue to be a force.  He's a political force.  

18                 We certainly know him as a political 

19    animal, but beneath all of this is the real 

20    person.  And many of my colleagues have talked 

21    about this already.  The real person that is a 

22    reverent son who continues to take care of his 

23    mom, his aging mom; a loving husband; a doting 

24    father.  That's the real Mike Gianaris.  It 

25    doesn't always come through in these august 


                                                               6421

 1    chambers, but that's who Mike is.  

 2                 And that's the grounding, along with 

 3    his education, of course.  People like him who 

 4    hail from the university, the law school that he 

 5    came from, they don't ever name their school, 

 6    they just say, Oh, I went to school in Boston.  

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR LIU:   But without those 

 9    educational backgrounds, the history, the 

10    experience, and the grounding as a real person, 

11    that is what makes Mike Gianaris the force he has 

12    been here in the State of New York.  

13                 Mike, it's been a long time.  And I 

14    will -- you know, I will attest to what 

15    Senator Comrie talked about.  Mike Gianaris, when 

16    he walked into the room, all the ladies noticed.  

17    The men noticed as well.  

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR LIU:   He was a -- he is a 

20    handsome man, though back then he was somewhat 

21    more svelte.  Mr. President, Mike G. is a bigger 

22    man now.

23                 (Laughter.)

24                 SENATOR LIU:   And I remember being 

25    on his campaign in 2020 and standing outside a 


                                                               6422

 1    poll site with his mom and dad in Astoria.  That 

 2    was -- we were a few hours away from what we knew 

 3    would be the result, that Mike Gianaris would 

 4    become the first Greek-American elected 

 5    legislator.  

 6                 And that was a big moment in time 

 7    for the community.  It was a big moment for all 

 8    of us in Queens.  We don't forget that.  And over 

 9    the years lots have happened, lot of legislative 

10    accomplishments.  I'm not really going to talk 

11    about that because everybody else has talked 

12    about that.  Don't forget, he was one of our 

13    "40 Under 40," that coveted list that people like 

14    to get on.  By the way, Mike, that was like 

15    20 years ago.  Almost 20 years ago.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   (Inaudible.) -- 

17    "60 Under 60."

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR LIU:   Yeah, I guess they 

20    started that list -- it's "60 Over 60," right?  

21    Or "70 Over 70," I think.  

22                 And of course becoming appointed to 

23    become the Deputy Majority Leader of the New York 

24    State Senate.  Thank you so much, Madam Leader, 

25    for that fateful decision that would impact so 


                                                               6423

 1    many millions of people across the state.  

 2                 To his legislative fights, I think 

 3    Senator Skoufis said it well, that even though 

 4    his name is not on that many pieces of 

 5    legislation -- he let us have it.  He let us put 

 6    our names on it.  But he certainly had his 

 7    fingerprints on all of those bills.  

 8                 And being the floor leader, 

 9    reminding all of us, both sides of the aisle, 

10    about important facts of history.  

11                 But, you know, one of the things I 

12    remember most is occasionally Mike would ask me 

13    to sit in for him as floor leader because session 

14    was getting late and he had to get home to give 

15    his sick cat his shots.  That cat is no longer 

16    with us.  But that's what Mike -- he knew he had 

17    to give the cat a shot by a certain time every 

18    single day.

19                 And then of course, you know, 

20    fast-forward to most recently in February, when 

21    we were all in conference getting ready to talk 

22    about the bills, and he made an announcement.  

23    And when he told us what his plans were, you 

24    know, a couple of minutes of like silence and 

25    just utter shock.  Not a dry eye in the room that 


                                                               6424

 1    day, just to think that this person could be 

 2    leaving us and moving on.

 3                 But I congratulate you, Mike, 

 4    because there's still a long way ahead and there 

 5    are a lot of things yet to be done, and you'll be 

 6    doing them from a different capacity, but there 

 7    will still be positive changes coming from you, 

 8    Mike.

 9                 So, Mr. President, I vote yes on 

10    this resolution.  I want to thank my friend, 

11    Michael Gianaris.  I'll see you at Northeast.  

12                 Thank you, Mr. President.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

14    you, Senator Liu.

15                 Senator Serrano on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you very 

17    much, Mr. President.  

18                 And it's sort of difficult to talk 

19    about this today because, you know, when you have 

20    a friend it's hard to know that you won't be able 

21    to see them every day.

22                 But I'm filled with tremendous 

23    gratitude for having had the opportunity to work 

24    with such an amazing person.  

25                 Mike Gianaris and I first met many 


                                                               6425

 1    years ago when I believe in the Senate, it was 

 2    during the time we were briefly in the Majority 

 3    and Mike was in the Assembly and we were working 

 4    on some bills together and had a press conference 

 5    together.  And I was thinking to myself, boy, 

 6    this guy has a great sense of humor.  Just fun 

 7    and a nice person to deal with.  

 8                 And, you know, I was so happy when I 

 9    learned that he was coming to the Senate.  And 

10    what I found during that period when we were 

11    briefly in the Minority back then, we had a bit 

12    more time on our hands to sort of get to know one 

13    another and to chitchat and learn all these 

14    things about one another.  And, you know, I was 

15    happy to hear that we had so many similar 

16    Generation X experiences growing up, and we sort 

17    of bonded over that.  We bonded over Star Wars 

18    and his encyclopedic knowledge of baseball, which 

19    I think actually rivals my dad's, if that can be 

20    seen.

21                 But he just knew so many things 

22    about so many different topics.  And I, being 

23    someone very inquisitive, I'm the type of person 

24    that asks a lot of questions.  I want to know 

25    everything about everything.  And a perfect 


                                                               6426

 1    match, because Mike will tell you everything.  

 2    Mike is not a gatekeeper of information.  He 

 3    freely shares so much of what he's learned over 

 4    the years and imparts that on all of us.  

 5                 And those of us who are willing to 

 6    listen are the better for it, because we learn 

 7    this perspective that is so uniquely balanced, 

 8    that is so uniquely ethical and proper.  And we 

 9    learn how to do not just this job better, but we 

10    learn how to do life better.

11                 I was also really amazed by the 

12    amount of bandwidth that Mike has to be able to 

13    handle so many different things and never 

14    complain.  Never looks flustered, never looks 

15    stressed.  Hid it well, if it existed.  But he 

16    sort of just kept grinding, kept plugging along.  

17    And it's an important message because, you know, 

18    that's what life is.  We do what we have to do, 

19    and we do it as long as we can.  

20                 And I could just imagine, Mike, that 

21    this was a difficult decision for you.  I know 

22    how much you love this work.  I know how much you 

23    love the challenges.  But I have to say that the 

24    reasons for which you are doing it make so much 

25    sense to me as a father.  


                                                               6427

 1                 And I've spoken to you so many times 

 2    over the years about the joys of being a dad.  

 3    And what I've seen in you, Mike, is not just you 

 4    as a dad, but as a joyful father.  I see the 

 5    light in you that grows every single day when you 

 6    talk more about your wonderful family, who I've 

 7    gotten to know over the years, and how that has 

 8    made you a better person and made you a more 

 9    fulfilled human being.

10                 So it is very difficult to see -- to 

11    know that you're not going to be here every 

12    single day.  But just know that I will continue 

13    to reach out.  Hopefully we can get some more 

14    Greek food together.  Thank you for teaching me 

15    all the different things that you have taught me 

16    over the years.  

17                 I love you, and I proudly vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

19    you, Senator Serrano.

20                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton on the 

21    resolution.

22                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

23    you, Mr. President.

24                 And thank you, Mike Gianaris, for 

25    the legacy that you leave behind in this place.


                                                               6428

 1                 Truly, if you look around this room, 

 2    your fingerprints are in every single corner of 

 3    our districts.  It's in every single corner of 

 4    New York State.  And this is the legacy that's 

 5    going to be lasting -- your family over here.

 6                 I'm so happy that they're here to 

 7    see and hear all the special things that there 

 8    are about you, what makes you, you.

 9                 I can say from personal experience, 

10    you are the gut-check that so many of us need.  

11    You bring balance to the conversations when any 

12    of us are stressed out or frazzled.  Because to 

13    Senator Serrano's point, you do remain such a 

14    constant and calming presence to so many of us in 

15    this room.

16                 And I wanted to say I really liked 

17    what Senator Gallivan said as well about your 

18    family being the thing everyone has in common, 

19    because that is something so noble.  I think that 

20    is such a rare character trait in people to 

21    realize when it's time to reprioritize.  

22                 And you did that, and you set an 

23    example for everybody in this room, whether it's 

24    shifting things around to make it work or when 

25    it's time to do something different.  


                                                               6429

 1                 But we appreciate you.  We love you.  

 2    I am not enough Greek to step into your shoes, 

 3    not even close, but thank you for looking at my 

 4    ancestry and accepting me a little bit as one of 

 5    your own.

 6                 I proudly vote aye, and 

 7    congratulations.  We love you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Scarcella-Spanton.  

10                 Senator Gonzalez on the resolution.

11                 SENATOR GONZALEZ:   Thank you, 

12    Mr. President.  

13                 I stand here as one of the members 

14    who can also say that I would not be here, but 

15    certainly wouldn't be the member that I am today, 

16    without Senator Gianaris.  

17                 And I remember meeting for the first 

18    time, and Senator Myrie spoke about how 

19    supportive he's been of young candidates.  But 

20    I'm probably one of the youngest, and I was 

21    nervous and I had those feelings of being a 

22    working-class kid from Queens and not being sure 

23    if I could take on such a role.  

24                 And I just remember Senator Gianaris 

25    talking about what it was like for him growing up 


                                                               6430

 1    in Queens, to be first generation in Harvard, 

 2    being surrounded by classmates who didn't always 

 3    think like us or grow up like us.  

 4                 And from that day on, I just truly 

 5    cannot say enough how grounded I have seen you, 

 6    Senator Gianaris, be in that history and fighting 

 7    for people like us.  But in inspiring that in 

 8    everyone else, and encouraging that in everyone 

 9    else around him.  

10                 And I also stand here as someone who 

11    has the immense honor and privilege of 

12    representing the same area that Senator Gianaris 

13    represented in Astoria.  

14                 And as a first-time candidate, I 

15    will tell you all when I was knocking doors, the 

16    first question I got a lot of the time was "Are 

17    you primarying Mike?"

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR GONZALEZ:   With, of 

20    course -- and rightfully so -- contempt.  

21                 And I would have to explain, no, we 

22    had a redistricting, and he's still in office, 

23    and actually he's supportive.  

24                 And honestly, it was representative 

25    of how loved he is, not only by the Greek 


                                                               6431

 1    community in Astoria that got the representation, 

 2    and also has that in our colleagues, but also in 

 3    places like NYCHA.  

 4                 I think one thing I know a lot of 

 5    you know, but maybe not everyone, is that there 

 6    are hundreds of kids in NYCHA who have money in a 

 7    college savings account and a real way and path 

 8    forward for the future, because Senator Gianaris 

 9    took the time to help build that program with a 

10    nonprofit.

11                 I will say he's also deeply loved 

12    not only in NYCHA, but also in Long Island City, 

13    where he took a hard stance on things like 

14    Amazon.  And I was an early organizer then, but 

15    he since has been proven right.  

16                 And the community in every place in 

17    the district is better off from not only our 

18    neighbors in LIC and our neighbors in NYCHA, but 

19    even down to the dogs and the cats, the adoption 

20    centers that benefited from his legislation.  So 

21    I am so deeply thankful to Senator Gianaris for 

22    fighting for all of us.  

23                 I think very few people have had the 

24    honor of saying Mark Hamill has said "The force 

25    is strong in this one," and that is certainly 


                                                               6432

 1    true.  And it takes a strong force to be such an 

 2    incredible father with such an incredible family.  

 3    And it's really, really exciting to see him be a 

 4    girl dad and see his two daughters grow up in our 

 5    neighborhood.

 6                 So thank you again.  And with that, 

 7    I proudly support this resolution.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Gonzalez.

10                 Senator Hinchey on the resolution.

11                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

12    Mr. President.  

13                 I rise as a proud member of the 'I 

14    Wouldn't Be Here Without Mike Gianaris' Caucus.  

15    Truly, Mike, you changed my life.  Maybe not in 

16    all the ways you changed Senator Comrie's life, 

17    but you changed my life truly for the better.  

18                 I talk to people in my community, my 

19    own family, and honestly they wouldn't know what 

20    I'd be doing if I wasn't sitting here in this 

21    chamber.  And I'm only in this chamber really in 

22    large part because of you and your work and your 

23    belief in me, and I want to say thank you.

24                 I feel so privileged to be able to 

25    serve in this body under the leadership with you 


                                                               6433

 1    and our leader.  It is truly phenomenal.  I think 

 2    it's something that we all have taken for granted 

 3    for the years that we've been able to be here 

 4    because it's just been our leadership.  It's 

 5    going to take a lot for us to realize that that 

 6    changes.  

 7                 And, you know, there's always time 

 8    for that change, but this is going to be a big 

 9    change.  Not just because, you know, anytime 

10    anyone in any position leaves it's a big deal, 

11    but because of what you have done and the way 

12    that you do it here in this chamber.

13                 As was said, your levelheadedness 

14    and the way that you manage so many spaces -- I 

15    mean, truly stuff of legend.  But even with the 

16    accomplishments and the titles and the 

17    responsibilities, you always had time for us.  It 

18    always felt like your time was accessible to us.  

19                 And truly, that's a gift.  You 

20    always picked up the phone, you took the call, 

21    you took the time to talk in the hallway.  You'd 

22    make sure that you knew our priorities.  And if 

23    we talked to you about something, I knew and we 

24    knew that you would follow through on saying what 

25    it is that you were going to do.  


                                                               6434

 1                 Truly, that is a gift, and that 

 2    allows all of us to learn and be our best selves 

 3    and represent our districts in the ways that 

 4    people sent us here to do.  And we've only been 

 5    able to do that, truly, because we had such a 

 6    great person helping us do that behind the 

 7    scenes.

 8                 So thank you for all of your work.  

 9    The accomplishments are legendary.  That legacy 

10    will live on for generations.  But so will the 

11    legacy here of the members that you have helped 

12    steward and helped shape and helped cultivate.  

13    We do that in your honor and in your memory and 

14    in your shadow, all just trying to live up to the 

15    work that you've been able to do here in this 

16    chamber.  

17                 And so this award is so 

18    well-deserved, and I just wanted to add my voice 

19    to the beautiful chorus to say thank you.

20                 I vote aye.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

22    you, Senator Hinchey.

23                 Senator Jackson on the resolution.

24                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.  


                                                               6435

 1                 I rise in order to thank 

 2    Mike Gianaris for being who he is.  I came in 

 3    with a group of about, what was it, 15 of us.  

 4    And that would not have happened had not Mike 

 5    been there and under the leadership of 

 6    Andrea Stewart-Cousins, you know, and others that 

 7    were involved in the process to try to move the 

 8    Minority here to the Majority.  

 9                 And that's what you did.  And that's 

10    what you're doing to keep us in the game.  Quite 

11    frankly, I've heard some situations about the 

12    IDC, and we replaced these people that were 

13    basically on the wrong side of the table.  But 

14    that's an opinion that I have, and others will 

15    think otherwise.  

16                 But Mike, I'll just say thank you on 

17    behalf of all of the people that have been 

18    brought to this team, and also on behalf of all 

19    of the people in New York State that have 

20    positively got something through you through the 

21    work that we're doing on behalf of the people of 

22    our great state.

23                 Thank you.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

25    you, Senator Jackson.


                                                               6436

 1                 Senator Ramos on the resolution.

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   When I first heard 

 3    that we would be honoring Mike today, my mind 

 4    went to the Powhatan Democratic Club.  'Twas the 

 5    year 2000, and a young Mike Gianaris was running 

 6    for State Assembly.  And I had been dragged to a 

 7    meeting by my father on a particular night when a 

 8    young, fresh-faced young man from Astoria was 

 9    there to talk about his candidacy.  And I 

10    remember how incredible it felt to know that a 

11    Queens kid, the child of immigrants, had the 

12    opportunity to step up to lead our hometown.

13                 And I don't think that Mike perhaps 

14    had the intention or even realized the impression 

15    that he was leaving on any of the teenagers in 

16    the room -- because I remember I wasn't the only 

17    one.  But you did.  And it definitely left an 

18    indelible mark on many people who in Queens, 

19    especially in Western Queens, have thought about 

20    living a life in public service.

21                 Now, over the last odd twenty years 

22    that I've actually known him, I've not only 

23    praised him as a leader, but to me he's 

24    exemplified what it means to be a good Democrat.  

25    I think it is -- we, at least definitely on this 


                                                               6437

 1    side, feel an immense sense of gratitude to you 

 2    for restoring integrity to this institution and 

 3    doing everything that you could to ensure that 

 4    justice was served to a Senate that deserved to 

 5    be led by an extraordinary woman.

 6                 And you, my friend, unlike many, are 

 7    a man who is not threatened by strong women.  And 

 8    that, again, is something that is admirable and 

 9    speaks to your character.  So to me, it is no 

10    coincidence that God decided to bless you with 

11    three extraordinary women in your life.  

12                 To me, this resolution is absolutely 

13    about your legacy as a legislator, as an 

14    operative, as a politician.  But, more 

15    importantly, of the incredible man you are, the 

16    incredible colleague and legacy that you have 

17    left in each and every one of us about how to 

18    conduct ourselves here in the Senate.  

19                 So thank you.  And congratulations, 

20    my friend.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

22    you, Senator Ramos.  

23                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

24    to be heard on this resolution?  Your loss.

25                 Seeing and hearing none, 


                                                               6438

 1    Senator Lanza, followed by Leader Andrea 

 2    Stewart-Cousins to close.

 3                 Senator Lanza on the resolution.

 4                 SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I've 

 5    noticed throughout this proceeding that my 

 6    colleague Senator Gianaris is in a very good 

 7    mood, and so I'll take this opportunity to ask 

 8    you to see if he'll yield.  

 9                 (Laughter.)

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   (Inaudible.)

11                 SENATOR LANZA:   Always game.  He's 

12    always game, Mr. President.

13                 Senator Michael Gianaris or, as he 

14    is known to we Republicans, thorn in our side.  

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

17    that's a compliment.  People in this room 

18    understand that.  

19                 Whatever your political leanings, if 

20    you don't respect Senator Gianaris and all that 

21    he is and all that he's done, you have not been 

22    paying attention.

23                 He's -- as has been said, he's one 

24    of the most influential and consequential elected 

25    officials in New York.  He is said to be 


                                                               6439

 1    partisan, and it's true -- but not with 

 2    everything.  If he don't like you, he don't care 

 3    which party you're from.  

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR LANZA:   But if he does, the 

 6    same holds true.

 7                 He and I have been sparring partners 

 8    for a long time now, debating on this floor for 

 9    many years, both when I was in the Majority and, 

10    unfortunately, in the Minority, for me.  And for 

11    a long time, Mr. President, it's probably true 

12    that we were nothing more than adversaries.  And 

13    there's nothing wrong with that either.  That's 

14    our system.  It's important that we have these 

15    discussions and we have these debates.  And in 

16    our American system of both law and government, 

17    the hope is that the better ideas will rise to 

18    the surface.  

19                 You know, these lines were probably 

20    drawn by fate long before we met.  I'm a proud 

21    and happy diehard Yankee fan.  As we all know, 

22    he's famously a Met fan.  I was born in 

23    Staten Island, I live in Staten Island, he in 

24    Queens.  I'm a Republican, he's a Democrat.  He's 

25    Greek, and I'm Italian.  Wait a minute.  That's 


                                                               6440

 1    the same thing.  

 2                 (Laughter.)

 3                 SENATOR LANZA:   It was not until 

 4    one day, Mr. President, that I think we crossed 

 5    the line from being nothing more than 

 6    adversaries:  When he turned to me and said, 

 7    "Lanza, you remind me of my brother."   And I 

 8    don't know if it was because we both served as, I 

 9    think, assistant district attorneys, or that we 

10    both attended a better law school than he did, 

11    Fordham University School of Law.  

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR LANZA:   But to me that 

14    signals a new chapter in our relationship.

15                 You know, a funny thing happened on 

16    the way to Damascus.  We're not supposed to be 

17    friends.  The world doesn't want us to be 

18    friends.  People on social media hate that we are 

19    friends.  Some of our friends hate that we are 

20    friends. 

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR LANZA:   Well, that's just 

23    tough.  And we found a way, through all the 

24    rounds and all the boxing and all the jabs and 

25    all the snips and the snark from both of us, we 


                                                               6441

 1    found a way to cut through that.  And I wish more 

 2    people would do the very same.  

 3                 I assure you, Mr. President, neither 

 4    one of us has ever compromised a single thing 

 5    that we believe in.  I could tell you 

 6    Senator Gianaris is loyal to your conference, 

 7    he's loyal to the mission, he's loyal to the 

 8    Majority Leader.  He's loyal to his party.  He's 

 9    loyal to the state and the country, though, at 

10    the same time.  I the same.  

11                 And just because the world doesn't 

12    like that two people so situated should not be 

13    friends, I think it make it is even sweeter.

14                 By the way, Senator Liu, I'm a 

15    Trekkie and a Star Wars fan.  There's room in the 

16    galaxy and the universe for both.

17                 We continued along our progression 

18    in our relationship, as it's been mentioned, 

19    especially during COVID.  When I had the 

20    privilege of being named to sit in this seat -- 

21    and by the way, after listening to 

22    Senator Gallivan reminding me of why I'm on this 

23    side, and to all the many Democrats who would not 

24    be here if not for Senator Gianaris, I'm a little 

25    less sad that you're leaving.  


                                                               6442

 1                 (Laughter.)

 2                 SENATOR LANZA:   But sad 

 3    nonetheless.

 4                 And so I took this desk, and we got 

 5    to know each other even more.  I can tell you one 

 6    thing we both agree on.  Y'all are very needy.  

 7    You all are very needy.  But we work together.

 8                 We don't always agree.  Sometimes we 

 9    do.  But we both are focused on doing what we 

10    believe to be the right thing by the folks in 

11    this chamber and, more importantly, by this 

12    institution that we both care for, and for the 

13    state.

14                 During the lockdown, he and I really 

15    got to know each other.  As most of you were home 

16    in pajamas on Zoom -- Senator Borrello no doubt 

17    in a Batman pajama -- 

18                 (Laughter.)

19                 SENATOR LANZA:   -- we had to figure 

20    out a way through that uncharted time.  And it 

21    did give us a lot of time to really get to know 

22    each other -- not just as adversaries, 

23    politically speaking, not just as fellow 

24    colleagues in the Senate, but as people.  

25                 And I listened to everyone speak, 


                                                               6443

 1    and everyone touched on a piece of Senator Mike 

 2    Gianaris.  And, you know, I heard about some of 

 3    the -- Senator Myrie, some of the things he does 

 4    outside of this chamber.  Senator Gianaris, I 

 5    think after all these years you owe me one favor.  

 6    If you're going to continue along those lines, 

 7    please do it in a galaxy far, far away.  

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR LANZA:   And if we ever -- 

10    and we will -- meet off-campus, I don't want you 

11    anywhere near Staten Island.  

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR LANZA:   I'll come to you.  

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR LANZA:   And we talk about 

16    family, and I too saw the change.  And when we 

17    talk about changes as if he was this ogre before 

18    and better after, that's not the case.  But as a 

19    husband and a father of three children, I knew 

20    the look in his eye all too well when he talked 

21    of his marriage to his beautiful wife and about 

22    his two children.  

23                 And we shared lots of stories about 

24    our families.  And at the end of the day, we care 

25    very much about what happens in here, but we do 


                                                               6444

 1    it for those reasons.  We do it for our families.  

 2    We sometimes come in here and we talk about how 

 3    important the work we do is, as if it's in a 

 4    vacuum, Mr. President.  It's not.  Without our 

 5    friends and our family, what's the point?  

 6                 And again, it's the seemingly little 

 7    things that help you cut through the fog of the 

 8    battle that we're engaged in.  And when my 

 9    daughter was in the process of rescuing a feral 

10    cat from the yard and from the neighborhood, I 

11    talked to -- I turned to my resident cat expert, 

12    Senator Gianaris.  And he helped me help my 

13    daughter socialize that cat.  And now Kitty, as 

14    we've talked about and we've shared photos, 

15    Kitty, if you open the door in my house, she 

16    looks at you like, I ain't going out there.  

17                 (Laughter.)

18                 SENATOR LANZA:   She's a 

19    full-fledged house cat and member of the family.  

20    And even that brought us together.

21                 You know, Senator Gianaris -- and 

22    again, people don't want to hear one side of the 

23    aisle talk well about the other side of the 

24    aisle.  We do it.  But if that's all we do, shame 

25    on us.


                                                               6445

 1                 I -- this place will miss you.  And 

 2    I will speak well of you.  You are 

 3    super-intelligent and smart, which are two 

 4    different things, and you're both.  You're 

 5    dedicated, you're passionate, and you're 

 6    hardworking.  And political differences aside, 

 7    isn't that all that we hope for in the people 

 8    that choose to represent the people across the 

 9    state?  And you are all that, Senator Gianaris.  

10                 And, you know, this place will miss 

11    you, friend and foe alike.  I shall miss you as a 

12    friend.  And I wish you truly Godspeed in your 

13    future travels.  

14                 Congratulations.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

16    you, Senator Lanza.

17                 Majority Leader Andrea 

18    Stewart-Cousins to close.

19                 SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

20    you, Mr. President.

21                 It is -- what's going to happen.  

22    Okay.  I know he's -- I don't think he's ever had 

23    the opportunity to sit in a room where so many 

24    people who he has helped were able to heap 

25    accolades, to bring up the past, laud you for the 


                                                               6446

 1    present, and give you the greatest hope for the 

 2    future.  

 3                 And the reality is that no one is 

 4    more deserving.  When I hear my colleagues talk 

 5    about how you touched their lives, changed their 

 6    lives, ruined their lives -- 

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   -- have 

 9    people to thank for changing sides in chamber.  

10                 And I think of our story, one that 

11    has been a 13-year partnership, something that I 

12    would never have dreamt of -- a kid, you know, 

13    from the projects.  And this Star Wars rebel 

14    hatched a plan in 2012 to change leadership, and 

15    included me in it.  I was happy to get here; that 

16    was hard enough.  I knew I could do some things.  

17    I never thought I'd do this thing.  

18                 There has to be a catalyst.  There 

19    has to be a seed.  Every single one of us had 

20    that person who said to us, You can do this, and 

21    never stopped supporting when you set on that 

22    journey.  That's who this guy is.

23                 And when he's with you, he's with 

24    you.  And if he's not, he's not.  But no matter 

25    what, with you or not, he's never, ever lost 


                                                               6447

 1    sight of the opportunity to change things for the 

 2    better.  

 3                 He's never forgotten why, almost 

 4    30 years ago, he got involved in state 

 5    government.  And he's never forgotten where he 

 6    came from or the influence someone like him has 

 7    on making change.

 8                 There's some voices, because of our 

 9    stereotypes and our conditioning, that you expect 

10    to be this way or that way.  It's so easy to put 

11    someone in a box when they have certain traits or 

12    party labels or characteristics or, you know, 

13    whatever it is you think of.  

14                 Senator Gianaris breaks the mold.  

15    Because given the box, the pedigree, you don't 

16    always expect the mission, the cause, the 

17    intention and the attention to things that people 

18    like him aren't supposed to care about.

19                 And in many ways, that's what makes 

20    him even more influential.  Because you get to 

21    hear important things that you don't expect to 

22    hear from someone like him, from the sublime to 

23    the ridiculous.  

24                 Whether it's Star Wars or the Mets 

25    or it's like, We've got to go do this now to 


                                                               6448

 1    protect the most vulnerable people, he never, 

 2    ever, ever compromises when he makes a decision 

 3    to move in a direction that he believes matters.  

 4    And he's never afraid to lift his voice when he 

 5    knows that his voice can make the defining 

 6    difference in an outcome.  

 7                 And that's what we've done here in 

 8    this chamber, with his influence, with his 

 9    support, with every fiber that he gave every 

10    single one of us for every single one of the 16 

11    years he's been in this chamber.

12                 And yes, you are the third 

13    Legacy Award, the first being Velmanette 

14    Montgomery, who spent almost 36 years -- who 

15    spent 36 years in this chamber, pioneering in so 

16    many ways.  And then of course Senator Breslin, 

17    who spent almost 30 years in the chamber.  

18                 And then you, who in your 16 years 

19    in this chamber has managed to create an 

20    environment that allows us to continue to grow in 

21    not only our policy but in our integrity, in our 

22    purpose, and in the magnificent role of public 

23    servant.

24                 We know, just as we having 

25    participated in life understand, nothing stays 


                                                               6449

 1    the same.  But we are certainly all better for 

 2    the time that you have spent with us.  And we are 

 3    very, very prepared to make sure that we continue 

 4    to stay focused on the mission of serving the 

 5    people of New York State.

 6                 I will say to your lovely wife and 

 7    your amazing children that you're very, very 

 8    fortunate.  This man adores you all.  I spend a 

 9    lot of time with him, and I know what everybody's 

10    doing all the time, because there's no end to the 

11    pictures and the photos and the fun and the Zoes 

12    and the Orlas and the Marianas -- sometimes, you 

13    know, you get to pop in between the girls.  But I 

14    can tell you that he would not leave here unless 

15    he had a greater love, and that he does.

16                 And for us who enjoy watching love 

17    filter through this chamber through the eyes of a 

18    child, who's only two, we say Godspeed.  We say 

19    thank you.  You've already heard that every 

20    single person is going to be torturing him anyway 

21    from a distance, so you won't be done with us 

22    entirely.  

23                 But we know that he will enjoy every 

24    moment not only of what he did here, but what he 

25    will do to grow and strengthen his family and to 


                                                               6450

 1    make sure that he also continues a legacy outside 

 2    of this chamber but in our communities, in our 

 3    state, and whatever it is he wants to do.

 4                 Senator Gianaris, thank you for 

 5    being, as I've said all the time, the best 

 6    Deputy Leader, the best Deputy Majority Leader, 

 7    the best partner, the best friend, the best ally 

 8    anyone could ever have.  

 9                 Congratulations.  I say aye.

10                 (Enthusiastic, extended standing 

11    ovation.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   While 

13    you're in a clapping mood, some remarks from our 

14    Deputy Leader, the Legacy Award winner, the King 

15    of Queens, Senator Michael Gianaris.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.  Thank you, Madam Leader.  

18                 I don't know how many people get to 

19    see a glimpse of what their funeral service is 

20    going to sound like.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I think I just 

23    have.  So thank you for that.  Most people don't 

24    get to respond --

25                 (Laughter.)


                                                               6451

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   -- but I do.  

 2                 I also want to thank my colleagues 

 3    for being the perfect white noise for Zoe to 

 4    continue her nap.  She just got up, I think while 

 5    Senator Lanza was speaking, so good timing on her 

 6    part.

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   What a ride it 

 9    has been.  And for me, this building means so 

10    much to me.  In many ways, before I had my family 

11    and the home I have now, it was my home.  You 

12    know, I was living alone.  Home was just a place 

13    I would go to be by myself and watch movies -- 

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   -- TV shows, 

16    take care of my cats and whatever else was going 

17    on back there.  

18                 But I started in 1997, early 1997, 

19    so almost 30 years ago now, at an office in this 

20    building in about the deepest corner of this 

21    building that could possibly exist.  You all 

22    know, if you got on the elevators -- which, by 

23    the way, back then they had humans operating 

24    them.  There were not even buttons on the 

25    elevator.  We had the elevator operators in those 


                                                               6452

 1    days.  And my office was in a place called 513M.  

 2                 So you may know the fifth floor is 

 3    the top floor of the building.  "M" stood for 

 4    mezzanine.  So you'd get to the top floor, you'd 

 5    literally go to the corner of the building, and 

 6    you walk into that office and there was a 

 7    stairway up to this manufactured floor above it.  

 8    And the only way up or down was that stairway.  

 9    It was a firetrap, to be sure.  I hope they've 

10    fixed that in the Assembly since I was there.  

11                 But I did see a lot of this building 

12    over the years, and I've seen a lot of things.  

13    I've witnessed two coup attempts, one in each 

14    house.  

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   One 

17    unsuccessful, one successful.  

18                 I have served with five governors, 

19    three of whom left under a cloud of ethical 

20    problems -- a majority of the governors I served 

21    with, think about that.  So far Governor Hochul's 

22    doing okay.  She's not one of them.

23                 When I first got elected to the 

24    Assembly, it was the year of 9/11.  A few years 

25    later I witnessed the first African-American to 


                                                               6453

 1    become president of the United States, who also 

 2    went to a little school outside of Boston, 

 3    Senator Liu -- 

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   -- at the same 

 6    time I was there.  

 7                 Slide over to the Senate, we had 

 8    COVID, of course, and all the issues associated 

 9    with the pandemic.  And then the last several 

10    years have seen the craziness with this current 

11    president.  I won't get too deep into politics in 

12    these remarks, but it has been an experience, I 

13    think, for everyone, no matter which side they 

14    are on.

15                 But at some point, and it was in my 

16    time here, where I went from being more of a -- 

17    having a front seat to witness this history to 

18    being a participant in it.  And, you know, here 

19    in this chamber we dealt with the Minority years, 

20    which were difficult years.  And it wasn't as 

21    simple as it is today, where the lines were 

22    clearcut.  We had, as some of my colleagues 

23    referenced, a number of Democrats who decided 

24    they were going to vote for Republicans to be 

25    leader of this chamber.  And that lasted for 


                                                               6454

 1    longer than it should have.  

 2                 We have so many of our Class of 2018 

 3    who were primary victors, and I think you heard 

 4    from many of them today.

 5                 But we did get past that.  It was an 

 6    interesting time.  I think you could write a 

 7    drama about that that would be interesting not 

 8    just to people who care about this chamber.  You 

 9    had friends jumping sides, you had all sorts of 

10    things that made what should be a simple job a 

11    lot more difficult.

12                 But then what came out of that -- 

13    because a lot of times I believe the biggest 

14    struggles lead to the biggest rewards.  And we 

15    came out of that in electing, speaking of firsts, 

16    the first Black woman to ever lead this chamber, 

17    in Andrea Stewart-Cousins, a historic figure in 

18    her own right.  We have been able to preside over 

19    the largest Majority this chamber has ever seen.  

20    And that's just not things that you put in books 

21    so that you can say you did it.  It has real 

22    consequences for people's lives.

23                 The 2019 session, I like to say, for 

24    anyone that is a student of state government, 

25    will never be forgotten.  I don't think there 


                                                               6455

 1    will ever be a session as productive as that one 

 2    was, and I don't think there was one prior to 

 3    that.

 4                 That, and the years since, have 

 5    resulted in so many incredible achievements that 

 6    are the kind of things that make it a little bit 

 7    easier to make the decision I made about leaving, 

 8    because I know that we have done some things.  

 9    And I think that was Senator Gounardes's point as 

10    well.  

11                 But just to rattle off a few, and my 

12    colleagues may want to close their ears for the 

13    next couple of minutes.  But among the things we 

14    achieved:  Early voting, mail-in voting, online 

15    voter registration, the John Lewis Voting Rights 

16    Act, which now seems like an incredibly prescient 

17    thing to do.

18                 Historic tenant protections.  The 

19    Reproductive Health Act, which at the time was an 

20    incredibly prescient thing to do.  

21                 Nation-leading environmental 

22    protections, protections for victims of sex 

23    abuse, both children and adults.  Criminal 

24    justice reforms.  Legalization of marijuana.  

25                 Protections for immigrants, starting 


                                                               6456

 1    with the DREAM Act and Green Light and, as we saw 

 2    just last week, adding to that.  Which as 

 3    Senator Ramos mentioned is something, given that 

 4    my parents were immigrants, I have never let go 

 5    of.

 6                 GENDA and conversion therapy ban for 

 7    LGBTQ+ friends and neighbors.  Gun safety laws.  

 8    You can open your ears now.  A permanent property 

 9    tax cap in this state.  

10                 My love of animals has been 

11    referenced.  We did ban the sale of dogs, cats 

12    and rabbits at retail throughout this state, 

13    which is now something other states are 

14    emulating.  

15                 And the work continues and will 

16    continue after I'm long gone.  I know my 

17    colleagues are now focused on the problems of the 

18    future -- regulation of AI, data centers, and the 

19    host of things that we're not even thinking of 

20    that will present themselves.  

21                 But the other thing that sticks with 

22    me is the relationships that I've built in this 

23    room with so many of you.  You spend so much time 

24    up here.  And I love Albany, but, you know, in 

25    the evening you go to dinner, because what else 


                                                               6457

 1    are you going to do, and so you get to know 

 2    people incredibly well.  Sometimes it's 

 3    friendships you don't expect, like Senator Lanza 

 4    mentioned, or Senator Borrello -- I never thought 

 5    I'd be friends with Senator Borrello.

 6                 (Laughter.) 

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Seriously.

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Incidentally, 

10    the leader said to me when we had the 

11    Storm Troopers in here, she says, "I've never 

12    seen Senator Borrello happier in all the time 

13    I've  known him."

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And it was good 

16    to have that moment of bipartisanship as well.

17                 But you know, what happens when you 

18    spend that much time with people is you talk 

19    about things that are important to you, and you 

20    seek advice and you seek counsel and you just get 

21    things off your chest.  And so you end up knowing 

22    people very personally in this place, and that is 

23    something I treasure, treasure greatly.

24                 Senator Skoufis mentioned that -- 

25    when was it, 2016? -- he declined to run, because 


                                                               6458

 1    we were recruiting him, we thought he had a shot.  

 2    What he doesn't mention is that the first meeting 

 3    I ever had as the chair of DSCC was with now 

 4    Senator Skoufis, who at the time was probably 

 5    younger than Kristen Gonzalez was when she got 

 6    elected.  And he rolls in and he says, "I'm going 

 7    to run for Senate."  And I said, "Against who?"  

 8    Like what do you -- who are you?  

 9                 (Laughter.)

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I think he had a 

11    local office at the time, like a town position.  

12    And he wisely did not run that year, because he 

13    did end up following a path that got him to the 

14    Assembly first and then over here.  But we're 

15    glad that he did make it.  

16                 And we're glad that so many of you 

17    got here, whether I helped or not.  This is an 

18    institution that can be proud of itself.  And 

19    that is also a credit to our leader.  And I do, I 

20    do want to take a moment to say in the all of the 

21    "I wouldn't be here without" conversations, I 

22    would not be here without our leader, Andrea 

23    Stewart-Cousins.  And not just because she 

24    appointed me to this position, but because we 

25    have really been partners in a way that I think 


                                                               6459

 1    few leadership teams are.  And so I value that -- 

 2    that friendship more than any.

 3                 So when you look at it that way, for 

 4    me, it was not just that the building was a home 

 5    to me, but the people in the building were also 

 6    my family.  And so now I do have about as good as 

 7    you can get.  Right?  

 8                 I mean, look at this.  My wife, 

 9    Mariana, also an immigrant, by the way, and a 

10    proud one, who is as smart as they come and as 

11    tough as they come.  Was it Senator Ramos who 

12    talked about the toughness of the women in my 

13    life?  That is for sure.  She is tremendous, and 

14    I love her dearly.  

15                 Orla, so proud of Orla.  Orla just 

16    got elected class rep at her school.

17                 (Applause.)

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   She was warming 

19    up my seat before session, so I don't know if 

20    she's getting ready for something.  I know, 

21    she's -- give her six years and she could come 

22    here and join you.

23                 And of course Zoe, who is an amazing 

24    little thing.  So much personality and sass and 

25    smarts in her eyes.  And she's just getting 


                                                               6460

 1    started, which is a wonderful thing to see.  

 2                 And you all have heard me talk about 

 3    her endlessly, obviously.  Poor Senator Cleare 

 4    has the misfortune of sitting next to me in 

 5    conference, so I roll in every -- "Oh, look at 

 6    this week's pictures."

 7                 (Laughter.)

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   She has watched 

 9    her grow up through my phone.

10                 But you guys are all really amazing.  

11    So Senator Bailey made this call to let people 

12    know how you feel, and I can say with all my 

13    heart that I love you all.  Even those of you I 

14    don't like, I love you.  

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And I would 

17    leave you with -- because those are different 

18    things too, Senator Lanza, as you know.

19                 And so I ask you, as my parting wish 

20    to all of you, is to take care of this building, 

21    take care of each other, take care of the people 

22    in it.  And most importantly, take care of the 

23    people we all represent in this state, because 

24    that's why we're all here.  

25                 So thank you all incredibly.  Thank 


                                                               6461

 1    you very, very much.

 2                 (Sustained standing ovation.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   For the 

 4    first and only time, the balcony can get involved 

 5    in this one.  The guests can get involved in this 

 6    one.  

 7                 The question is on the resolution.  

 8    All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

 9                 (Resounding response of "Aye.")

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There's 

11    no other question.  

12                 The resolution is adopted.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

15    thank you.  

16                 I do want to also make one last 

17    thank you to staff.  We did a little bit at the 

18    barbecue last week, but I don't want to let it go 

19    unsaid that the staff makes this all possible for 

20    all of us.  

21                 And so staff present and past, and 

22    future, we appreciate you very much.  Some of 

23    them have come all the way to watch me from up 

24    there.  And so we love them as well.

25                 Back to the work, Mr. President.  We 


                                                               6462

 1    have a lot to do this week, so I appreciate 

 2    everyone's indulgence in doing that for a couple 

 3    of hours.  

 4                 We have the guests for 

 5    Senator Scarcella-Spanton's resolution here, so 

 6    let's take up previously adopted Resolution 1682, 

 7    by Senator Scarcella-Spanton, read its title, and 

 8    call on Senator Scarcella-Spanton.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

10    Secretary will read.  

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1682, by 

12    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, celebrating the 

13    85th Anniversary of the Civil Air Patrol New York 

14    Wing.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

16    Scarcella-Spanton on the resolution.  

17                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

18    you, Mr. President.  

19                 A tough act to follow, but a very 

20    worthy one.

21                 I rise today to commemorate the 

22    85th anniversary of the Civil Air Patrol, and I 

23    welcome Lieutenant Colonel Frank Birt, the 

24    government relations advisor; Major Joe Gallo, 

25    Vice Commander, North; Lieutenant Colonel James 


                                                               6463

 1    Glass; and Cadets Emmond, Jonassen, Koshinski, 

 2    Hartman, Benedict, Noonan, and Nelson.  

 3                 The anniversary is an opportunity to 

 4    honor the generations of volunteers, cadets, and 

 5    senior members who have carried forward the 

 6    Civil Air Patrol mission, the official auxiliary 

 7    of the U.S. Air Force.  

 8                 The Civil Air Patrol was established 

 9    during a critical period in American history and 

10    has served the nation and our state with 

11    distinction for over eight decades.

12                 New York members have contributed to 

13    countless missions supporting public safety, 

14    emergency response, and most importantly, youth 

15    development.  The Civil Air Patrol New York Wing 

16    stands ready to assist during emergencies, 

17    natural disasters, and search-and-rescue 

18    operations.  

19                 One of the most enduring 

20    contributions of the Civil Air Patrol is the 

21    development of young leaders through aerospace 

22    education, character development, physical 

23    fitness, and leadership training.  

24                 While we honor 85 years of 

25    achievement, we also look to the future.  By 


                                                               6464

 1    investing in our youth, embracing innovation, and 

 2    maintaining a spirit of volunteer service, this 

 3    organization is well-positioned for decades 

 4    ahead.  

 5                 To every cadet, senior member, 

 6    volunteer, alum, supporter, and family member, 

 7    thank you for 85 years of service.  

 8                 And I will say I know Senator Liu is 

 9    very, very connected to the Civil Air Patrol.  

10                 And I thank you very much for being 

11    here.  Thank you all for your patience.  I hope 

12    you enjoyed watching government unfold, and 

13    people's careers, of course, too.

14                 So thank you so much, and I proudly 

15    vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

17    Senator.  

18                 Senator Griffo on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR GRIFFO:   Thank you, 

20    Madam President.  

21                 I want to welcome Colonel Birt and 

22    all of the members, the cadets who were here.  

23                 Very proud to recognize this 

24    85th anniversary of the organization.  Proud to 

25    be part of the legislative squadron that we've 


                                                               6465

 1    assembled here, too, to advocate and to promote 

 2    the Civil Air Patrol.  

 3                 As you heard, since their founding 

 4    in 1941, they embody the virtues of civic 

 5    responsibility, public service, and patriotism.

 6                 The Civil Air Patrol members and 

 7    cadets serve with distinction and with honor.  

 8    They have supported our communities throughout 

 9    the state during some of the most difficult 

10    times, like September 11th, natural disasters.  

11    They assist with emergency management.  

12                 I have personally had the 

13    opportunity to ride with them to survey 

14    devastation from some of the natural disasters 

15    that we've experienced across our state, 

16    particularly in my district.

17                 So they inspire the next generation 

18    of aviators and innovators.  They mentor youth 

19    through their leadership programs.  There's over 

20    2,200 volunteers currently in the New York Wing 

21    of the Civil Air Patrol, and they are committed 

22    to excellence, to professionalism, and to service 

23    above self.

24                 So they have truly made a difference 

25    throughout this state and for our nation, so it's 


                                                               6466

 1    appropriate that we celebrate and recognize the 

 2    85th anniversary milestone.  

 3                 I want to extend my gratitude and 

 4    appreciation to the men and women of New York's 

 5    Civil Air Patrol, thank them for their 

 6    willingness to step up and answer the call to 

 7    service.

 8                 Thank you, Madam President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Griffo.

11                 Senate Liu on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR LIU:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  I want to thank 

14    Senator Scarcella-Spanton for this important 

15    resolution.  

16                 And I want to thank Senator Griffo 

17    for his kind words as well.

18                 Eighty-five years ago, we were in 

19    the middle of a world war, and patriots along the 

20    East Coast here in the United States, they -- 

21    pilots, some professional, some amateur, they 

22    took their own planes to survey the waters off 

23    our coast, and in the process wound up sinking 

24    three Germany submarines during World War II.  

25                 After that conflict, the 


                                                               6467

 1    United States Congress chartered the Civil Air 

 2    Patrol as an organization that would become the 

 3    auxiliary volunteer to the United States 

 4    Air Force.  And 85 years later, the Civil Air 

 5    Patrol continues to grow and continues to provide 

 6    service and stays core to its mission and its 

 7    core values of excellence, integrity, respect, 

 8    and volunteer service.

 9                 And those guiding principles 

10    continue to make the Civil Air Patrol the strong 

11    organization nationwide -- and right here in 

12    New York State -- that it is.

13                 So I want to thank our officers, our 

14    cadets, for joining us here in the State Capitol, 

15    and for their continued service to this great 

16    organization.

17                 Thank you, Madam President.  I vote 

18    yes on this resolution.  I urge my colleagues to 

19    vote yes on this resolution.  And I further urge 

20    my colleagues to vote on two bills that are 

21    coming up tomorrow and the rest of this week that 

22    are important to the members of the U.S. Civil 

23    Air Patrol here in New York.

24                 Thank you, Madam President.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 


                                                               6468

 1    Senator Liu.

 2                 Senator Webb on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 I too want to thank 

 6    Senator Scarcella-Spanton for recognizing this 

 7    important anniversary of reaching this milestone 

 8    of 85 years.  

 9                 To Commander Birt, I have the 

10    pleasure of meeting with you quite often, and the 

11    cadets.  I'm a proud card-carrying member, like 

12    many of us in the Legislature.

13                 The work of the Civil Air Patrol and 

14    the resources they provide to our community are 

15    very important.  I think about in my area when 

16    the floods happened in 2011, and other kind of 

17    extreme weather events that require emergency 

18    response, they were there, among other first 

19    responders, really providing supports.  

20                 And the cadets that are part of this 

21    program are just really committed to community 

22    service and are exploring their -- I would say 

23    their purpose of being in the STEM but also, most 

24    of all, utilizing their talents and their gifts 

25    to making our communities better.


                                                               6469

 1                 So again, congratulations on 

 2    reaching such an important milestone.  We look 

 3    forward to celebrating 85 more years, and 

 4    appreciate your patience today in being here with 

 5    us.  

 6                 But congratulations to not only 

 7    Commander Birt, but really the entire team for 

 8    what they do.  

 9                 I proudly vote aye, Madam President.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you.

11                 To our guests from the Civil Air 

12    Patrol on the occasion of your 85th anniversary, 

13    your leadership, the cadets, thank you for your 

14    presence here today.  We acknowledge and respect 

15    you.  We extend to you the cordialities of the 

16    house.  

17                 Please rise and be recognized.

18                 (Standing ovation.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    resolution was adopted previously on March 10th.

21                 Senator Gianaris.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

23    I have a couple of motions here.  

24                 On behalf of Senator Brisport, I 

25    wish to call up Senate Print 1615, recalled from 


                                                               6470

 1    the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    401, Senate Print 1615, by Senator Brisport, an 

 6    act to amend the Real Property Actions and 

 7    Proceedings Law.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

 9    reconsider the vote by which this bill was 

10    passed.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

12    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

17    Calendar.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

19    following amendments.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    amendments are received.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

23    Senator Baskin, on page 24 I offer the following 

24    amendments to Calendar 928, Senate Print 9126A, 

25    and ask that said bill retain its place on 


                                                               6471

 1    Third Reading Calendar.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 4    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   There will be an 

 7    immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

 8    Room 332.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There will 

10    be an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

11    Room 332.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The Senate 

13    stands at ease.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

15    stands at ease.

16                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

17    at 4:03 p.m.)

18                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

19    4:12 p.m.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    Senate will return to order.  

22                 Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I believe 

24    there's a report of the Rules Committee at the 

25    desk.  Let's take that up, Mr. President.


                                                               6472

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

 4    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

 5    reports the following bills:

 6                 Senate Print 291B, by 

 7    Senator Rhoads, an act to amend the Highway Law;

 8                 Senate Print 1171A, by 

 9    Senator Mattera, an act to amend the 

10    Environmental Conservation Law;

11                 Senate Print 1891A, by 

12    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the Vehicle and 

13    Traffic Law; 

14                 Senate Print 2461A, by 

15    Senator Rhoads, an act in relation to authorizing 

16    the New York State and Local Employees' 

17    Retirement System to accept an application for 

18    disability retirement benefits; 

19                 Senate Print 2667C, by 

20    Senator Salazar, an act to amend the 

21    Correction Law; 

22                 Senate Print 3500, by Senator Weik, 

23    an act to amend the Executive Law; 

24                 Senate Print 3610A, by 

25    Senator Helming, an act to amend the 


                                                               6473

 1    Mental Hygiene Law; 

 2                 Senate Print 3815C, by 

 3    Senator Rivera, an act to amend the 

 4    General Municipal Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 3864A, by 

 6    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend the 

 7    Judiciary Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 4040, by 

 9    Senator Comrie, an act to amend the 

10    Administrative Code of the City of New York; 

11                 Senate Print 4155A, by 

12    Senator Sanders, an act to amend the 

13    Executive Law; 

14                 Senate Print 4155A, by 

15    Senator Sanders, an act to amend the 

16    Executive Law; 

17                 Senate Print 4448A, by Senator Stec, 

18    an act to amend the Civil Service Law; 

19                 Senate Print 4571B, by 

20    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

21    Public Authorities Law; 

22                 Senate Print 4583B, by 

23    Senator Salazar, an act to amend the 

24    Correction Law; 

25                 Senate Print 4667A, by 


                                                               6474

 1    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

 2    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 4706A, by 

 4    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

 5    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

 6                 Senate Print 5585, by Senator Lanza, 

 7    an act to amend the Highway Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 5659, by 

 9    Senator Palumbo, an act in relation to 

10    authorizing the Village of North Haven, 

11    Suffolk County, to reduce the maximum speed limit 

12    along certain designated streets; 

13                 Senate Print 5727, by 

14    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

15    Education Law; 

16                 Senate Print 5737A, by 

17    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the 

18    Social Services Law; 

19                 Senate Print 5883, by Senator Lanza, 

20    an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

21                 Senate Print 6233A, by 

22    Senator Martinez, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

23                 Senate Print 6898, by 

24    Senator Cooney, an act to amend the 

25    Executive Law; 


                                                               6475

 1                 Senate Print 7158A, by 

 2    Senator O'Mara, an act to amend Chapter 412 of 

 3    the Laws of 1990; 

 4                 Senate Print 7411A, by 

 5    Senator O'Mara, an act in relation to authorizing 

 6    Lieutenant Thomas Cleere to receive certain 

 7    service credit under a 20-year retirement plan; 

 8                 Senate Print 7604B, by 

 9    Senator Mattera, an act in relation to 

10    authorizing the Town of Smithtown assessor to 

11    accept an application for a real property tax 

12    exemption; 

13                 Senate Print 7759A, by 

14    Senator Lanza, an act to authorize Frank R. Smith 

15    to receive performance of duty disability 

16    retirement benefits; 

17                 Senate Print 7762B, by 

18    Senator Murray, an act in relation to authorizing 

19    the assessor of the Town of Brookhaven, County of 

20    Suffolk, to accept an application for a real 

21    property tax exemption; 

22                 Senate Print 7808A, by 

23    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the 

24    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

25                 Senate Print 7898A, by 


                                                               6476

 1    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 2    Economic Development Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 8122B, by 

 4    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

 5    Administrative Code of the City of New York; 

 6                 Senate Print 8167A, by 

 7    Senator Lanza, an act granting retroactive 

 8    Tier IV membership in the New York City Teachers' 

 9    Retirement System; 

10                 Senate Print 8398, by 

11    Senator Oberacker, an act in relation to 

12    authorizing Daniel Montalto to take the 

13    competitive civil service examination; 

14                 Senate Print 8455B, by Senator Fahy, 

15    an act to amend the Penal Law; 

16                 Senate Print 8553A, by 

17    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

18    Public Health Law; 

19                 Senate Print 8654B, by 

20    Senator Cleare, an act to amend the Elder Law; 

21                 Senate Print 8945, by 

22    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

23    Retirement and Social Security Law;

24                 Senate Print 9069, by 

25    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 


                                                               6477

 1    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

 2                 Senate Print 9139A, by 

 3    Senator Salazar, an act to amend the 

 4    Social Services Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 9190, by 

 6    Senator O'Mara, an act to amend the 

 7    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 9272A, by 

 9    Senator Fernandez, an act to amend the 

10    Education Law; 

11                 Senate Print 9356, by 

12    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the 

13    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

14                 Senate Print 9378, by 

15    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

16    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

17                 Senate Print 9408A, by 

18    Senator Gounardes, an act to amend the 

19    General Business Law; 

20                 Senate Print 9497, by 

21    Senator Fernandez, an act to amend the 

22    Insurance Law;

23                 Senate Print 9500A, by 

24    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

25    Public Service Law; 


                                                               6478

 1                 Senate Print 9664, by 

 2    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 3    Public Health Law; 

 4                 Senate Print 9671A, by 

 5    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 6    Election Law; 

 7                 Senate Print 9683A, by 

 8    Senator Gonzalez, an act to authorize the City of 

 9    New York to sell certain lands; 

10                 Senate Print 9761, by Senator Mayer, 

11    an act to amend the State Finance Law; 

12                 Senate Print 9853A, by 

13    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

14    Education Law; 

15                 Senate Print 9855A, by 

16    Senator Mayer, an act to amend the 

17    State Finance Law; 

18                 Senate Print 9881, by 

19    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

20    General Municipal Law; 

21                 Senate Print 9882, by 

22    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

23    General Municipal Law; 

24                 Senate Print 9885A, by 

25    Senator Sutton, an act to amend the 


                                                               6479

 1    Education Law; 

 2                 Senate Print 9966, by 

 3    Senator Comrie, an act to amend the 

 4    Public Service Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 9977A, by Senator Weik, 

 6    an act to amend Chapter 10 of the Laws of 1958; 

 7                 Senate Print 9983, by 

 8    Senator Borrello, an act in relation to 

 9    authorizing Joseph Fredrick to take the 

10    competitive civil service examination; 

11                 Senate Print 10032A, by 

12    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act in relation 

13    to authorizing Hachaim Veshalom to file an 

14    application for a retroactive real property tax 

15    exemption; 

16                 Senate Print 10092, by 

17    Senator Brouk, an act to amend the 

18    General Business Law; 

19                 Senate Print 10094, by 

20    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

21    Highway Law;

22                 Senate Print 10113, by 

23    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

24    Cannabis Law; 

25                 Senate Print 10165A, by 


                                                               6480

 1    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act authorizing 

 2    the Cong Ahavas Yisrael, Inc., to receive 

 3    retroactive real property tax-exempt status; 

 4                 Senate Print 10186, by 

 5    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

 6    Administrative Code of the City of New York; 

 7                 Senate Print 10200, by 

 8    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the 

 9    Multiple Dwelling Law; 

10                 Senate Print 10239, by 

11    Senator Comrie, an act to amend the 

12    General Business Law; 

13                 Senate Print 10274, by 

14    Senator Fernandez, an act to amend the 

15    Real Property Law; 

16                 Senate Print 10309, by 

17    Senator Brouk, an act to amend the 

18    Mental Hygiene Law;

19                 Senate Print 10340, by Senator May, 

20    an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

21                 Senate Print 10350A, by 

22    Senator Ramos, an act to amend the 

23    Civil Service Law; 

24                 Senate Print 10523, by 

25    Senator Stavisky, an act to amend Chapter 548 of 


                                                               6481

 1    the Laws of 2004; 

 2                 Senate Print 10524, by 

 3    Senator Stavisky, an act to amend Part U of 

 4    Chapter 56 of the Laws of 2018; 

 5                 Senate Print 10526, by 

 6    Senator O'Mara, an act to amend the 

 7    Public Officers Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 10538, by 

 9    Senator Salazar, an act to amend Chapter 573 of 

10    the Laws of 2011; 

11                 Senate Print 10545, by 

12    Senator Bottcher, an act to amend Chapter 890 of 

13    the Laws of 1982; 

14                 Senate Print 10567, by 

15    Senator Ramos, an act to amend Chapter 831 of the 

16    Laws of 1981;

17                 Senate Print 10569, by 

18    Senator Ramos, an act to amend Chapter 451 of the 

19    Laws of 2012; 

20                 Senate Print 10585, by 

21    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

22                 Senate Print 10586, by 

23    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend Chapter 801 of 

24    the Laws of 2021.  

25                 All bills reported direct to third 


                                                               6482

 1    reading.  

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

 3    the report of the Rules Committee.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   All those 

 5    in favor of accepting the report of the 

 6    Rules Committee please signify by saying aye.

 7                 (Response of "Aye.")

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Opposed, 

 9    nay.

10                 (No response.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

13                 Senator Gianaris.  

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

15    the calendar.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    107, Senate Print 5835, by Senator Skoufis, an 

20    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 


                                                               6483

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 107, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Brisport.

 8                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    126, Senate Print 607C, by Senator Stavisky, an 

13    act to amend the Education Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 15.  This 

17    act shall take effect 18 months after it shall 

18    have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               6484

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    134, Senate Print 5990C, by Senator Ramos, an act 

 4    to amend the Labor Law.

 5                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

 7    aside.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    216, Senate Print 2436A, by Senator Krueger, an 

10    act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

11    of New York.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the first of January.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 216, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, 

24    Griffo, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, 

25    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 


                                                               6485

 1    Rolison, Scarcella-Spanton, Stec, Tedisco, 

 2    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 3                 Senator Weber in the affirmative.  

 4                 Senator Borrello in the negative.

 5                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    292, Senate Print 1180C, by Senator Gianaris, an 

10    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 292, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

24    Helming, Lanza, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

25    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.


                                                               6486

 1                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 15.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    323, Assembly Bill Number 173A, by 

 6    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 7    Not-For-Profit Corporation Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 323, voting in the negative are 

20    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

21    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

22    Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

23    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, 

24    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

25                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 23.


                                                               6487

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    341, Senate Print Number 2364, by 

 5    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the 

 6    State Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    385, Senate Print 1617, by Senator Rivera, an act 

21    to amend the Public Health Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 


                                                               6488

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 385, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

10    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

11    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

12    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

13    and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 20.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    417, Senate Print 593A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

19    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

24    have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 


                                                               6489

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    454, Senate Print 2708B, by Senator May, an act 

10    to amend the Public Service Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

19    May to explain her vote.

20                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

21    Mr. President.

22                 We're all aware of our constituents 

23    being concerned about rising utility bills.  And 

24    the big reason for these rises in utility bills 

25    has to do with the fact that we have an 


                                                               6490

 1    antiquated electric grid and rising demand.  So 

 2    the demand hits a bottleneck in the Northeast, 

 3    and it drives prices up.

 4                 The long-term solution to this is to 

 5    build out the grid, but that's a very, very 

 6    expensive solution.  

 7                 And in the meantime we do have a 

 8    much cheaper solution, which is to use advanced 

 9    transmission technologies, which are software and 

10    hardware solutions that just move the energy 

11    around on the grid much faster and more 

12    efficiently.  And the hope is that this can truly 

13    bring energy prices down while making the grid 

14    work better and be more resilient.

15                 So I'm proud that we're passing this 

16    bill today, and I vote aye.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

18    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Announce the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 454, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

23    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

24    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

25    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.


                                                               6491

 1                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    466, Senate Print 4162, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 6    to incentivize the purchase of local produce.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    543, Senate Print 5598B, by Senator May, an act 

22    to amend the General Business Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 


                                                               6492

 1    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 543, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Oberacker, Stec, Walczyk and 

11    Weik.

12                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 5.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    557, Senate Print 3105, by Senator Cooney, an act 

17    to amend the Cannabis Law.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

19    the day.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

21    will be laid aside for the day.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    558, Assembly Bill Number 755B, by 

24    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

25    Public Health Law.  


                                                               6493

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    576, Senate Print 2134A, by Senator Krueger, an 

15    act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

16    of New York.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6494

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 576, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 4    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

 5    Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 6    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, 

 7    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 36.  Nays, 24.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    583, Senate Print 1462A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

13    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 583, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 


                                                               6495

 1    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 2    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 3    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 4    Weber and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 22.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    676, Senate Print 8870, by Senator Skoufis, an 

10    act to amend the Real Property Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 676, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Borrello and Lanza.

24                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               6496

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    714, Assembly Bill Number 9334A, by 

 4    Assemblymember Simpson, an act transferring 

 5    certain state property located in the Town of 

 6    Queensbury to the County of Warren.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There's a 

 8    home-rule message at the desk.

 9                 Read the last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    715, Senate Print 8643, by Senator Martinez, an 

22    act to amend the State Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               6497

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    752, Senate Print 9766, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

12    act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 752, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 


                                                               6498

 1    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

 2    Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 3    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Ryan, Skoufis, 

 4    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 25.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    780, Senate Print 7607D, by Senator Borrello, an 

10    act to amend the Highway Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 780, voting in the negative:  

22    Senator Brisport.

23                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               6499

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    782, Senate Print 8059, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 3    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

 8    have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    799, Senate Print 2444, by Senator Fernandez, an 

19    act to amend the Civil Rights Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6500

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 799, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 8    Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 9    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 There's a substitution at the desk.  

14                 The Secretary will read.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Cleare 

16    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Health, 

17    Assembly Bill 1931 and substitute it for the 

18    identical Senate Bill 3566, Third Reading 

19    Calendar 808.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    808, Assembly Bill Number 1931, by 

24    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

25    Social Services Law.


                                                               6501

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

13    Cleare -- excuse me.  Senator Cleare to explain 

14    her vote.  I apologize.

15                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 I'm proud to rise as chair of the 

18    Aging Committee to support this bill, which will 

19    permanently expand the Medicaid dental benefit in 

20    New York State to include coverage of root 

21    canals, crowns, replacement dentures, and dental 

22    implants when medically necessary.  

23                 These are rights that actually had 

24    to be sued for, and it is high time that we 

25    enshrine them in statute.  Effective and 


                                                               6502

 1    proactive dental care is critical for all 

 2    New Yorkers, particularly our older New Yorkers 

 3    and people with lesser means.  Poor dental health 

 4    can cause pain, suffering, difficulty, and an 

 5    inability to eat and a limited quality of life.  

 6    And for seniors, it actually hastens the aging 

 7    process.

 8                 A report by the U.S. Centers for 

 9    Disease Control and Prevention shows that there 

10    are profound racial and economic disparities 

11    regarding oral health among individuals which is 

12    linked to cardiovascular disease, respiratory 

13    infection, and even in some cases adverse 

14    pregnancy outcomes.  

15                 We have the opportunity to get it 

16    right with this bill and ensure that oral health 

17    care is accessible to all.

18                 Thank you.  I vote aye.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

20    Cleare to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 The results were announced.

22                 The bill is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    842, Senate Print 1026A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

25    act to amend the Executive Law.


                                                               6503

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 842, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 

14    Helming, Lanza, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, 

15    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and 

16    Weik.

17                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 16.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    847, Assembly Bill Number 4603A, by 

22    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

23    Correction Law.

24                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 


                                                               6504

 1    aside.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Calendar 

 3    Number 869, Senate Print 825B, by Senator Liu, an 

 4    act to amend the Labor Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

 8    act shall take effect be on the 90th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 869, voting in the negative:  

17    Senator Walczyk.

18                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    899, Senate Print 5932A, by Senator Mattera, an 

23    act in relation to authorizing the Town of 

24    Huntington to alienate and discontinue the use of 

25    certain parklands.


                                                               6505

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 2    a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    917, Senate Print 9790, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

16    act to amend the Judiciary Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 


                                                               6506

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 917, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Helming, Martinez, Ortt, 

 5    Scarcella-Spanton and Walczyk.

 6                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 5.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    979, Senate Print 7408B, by Senator Fahy, an act 

11    to amend the Public Health Law.

12                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

14    aside.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1042, Senate Print 1613A, by Senator Fahy, an act 

17    directing the Empire State Development 

18    Corporation, in conjunction with the Office of 

19    General Services, to create plans for the 

20    development of mixed-use commercial and 

21    residential property.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               6507

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5    Fahy to explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 I rise to vote in support of this 

 9    bill and also want to note just its significance.  

10    This has been many, many years in the making.  

11                 This bill in particular is about 

12    laying aside seven of 27 acres for mixed-use 

13    development.  Those 27 acres right now are mostly 

14    under construction for the famed Wadsworth Public 

15    Health Labs.  It's a $1.7 billion investment.  

16    We'd like to take the part that is designated as 

17    a parking lot to convert that for mixed-use 

18    development for commercial, retail, housing and 

19    more.  

20                 And I should also say this is very 

21    significant because just last week in the 

22    state budget, thanks to the support of many here, 

23    we were also able to include a million dollars 

24    for a comprehensive redesign study for 

25    Harriman Campus.  


                                                               6508

 1                 I'd like this to also be a part of 

 2    it.  We have a housing shortage.  We have a lot 

 3    of shortages and a lot of needs.  We have a 

 4    couple of hundred acres up there, and I think we 

 5    can get it out of the 1960s design, the 

 6    car-centric design, move it into the 

 7    21st century.  And I'm very pleased to see us 

 8    adopting this bill today as we rethink what is 

 9    now referred to as the Uptown Parking Lot 

10    District.  

11                 Thank you.  With that, I vote in the 

12    affirmative.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1042, voting in the negative:  

17    Senator Oberacker.

18                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1044, Senate Print 1996, by Senator Sanders, an 

23    act establishing a New York State Public Bank 

24    Commission.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 


                                                               6509

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1044, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

14    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

15    Palumbo, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

16    and Weik.  

17                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1049, Senate Print 4042B, by Senator Harckham, an 

22    act to amend the Civil Rights Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 


                                                               6510

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1049, voting in the negative:  

 9    Senator Walczyk.

10                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1050, Senate Print 4535, by Senator Skoufis, an 

15    act to amend the Executive Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               6511

 1    Calendar 1050, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Borrello, Chan, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 3    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and 

 4    Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 12.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1051, Senate Print 4955B, by Senator Harckham, an 

10    act to amend the Public Health Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the first of April.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1057, Senate Print 365, by Senator Skoufis, an 

25    act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.  


                                                               6512

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1057, voting in the negative:  

13    Senator Walczyk.

14                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1089, Senate Print 10098, by Senator Skoufis, an 

19    act to amend the Public Officers Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23    act shall take effect January 1, 2027.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6513

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1159, Assembly Bill Number 3450A, by 

 9    Assemblymember Santabarbara, an act to amend the 

10    Real Property Tax Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

12    last section.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1160, Senate Print 5729, by Senator Harckham, an 

25    act to amend the Executive Law.


                                                               6514

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1165, Senate Print 1056, by Senator Serrano, an 

15    act to amend the Social Services Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

19    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

20    shall have become a law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6515

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1191, Senate Print 592A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 6    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1201, Senate Print 1986, by Senator Harckham, an 

22    act to amend the Education Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               6516

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1204, Senate Print 4755A, by Senator Bailey, an 

12    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.  

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               6517

 1    1268, Senate Print 7189B, by Senator Rhoads, an 

 2    act to amend the Highway Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.  

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11    Secretary will announce the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1268, voting in the negative:  

14    Senator Brisport.

15                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1311, Senate Print 10168A, by Senator Kavanagh, 

20    an act to amend the Environmental Conservation 

21    Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 12.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               6518

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1311, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Martinez and Ryan.

 9                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1318, Senate Print 4640A, by Senator Fernandez, 

14    an act to amend the Public Health Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

23    the results.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1318, voting in the negative are 


                                                               6519

 1    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, 

 2    Griffo, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec and Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes 52.  Nays, 8.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1321, Assembly Bill Number 10045, by 

 8    Assemblymember Forrest, an act to amend the 

 9    Public Health Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

14    shall have become a law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1323, Senate Print 8169, by Senator Bynoe, an act 

25    to amend the State Technology Law.


                                                               6520

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1339, Senate Print 1063, by Senator Serrano, an 

16    act to amend the Education Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6521

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 1339, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, 

 4    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, 

 5    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 6    Rolison, Scarcella-Spanton, Stec, Tedisco, 

 7    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1340, Senate Print 1072A, by Senator Serrano, an 

13    act to amend the Education Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1340, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Lanza and Walczyk.  


                                                               6522

 1                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1341, Senate Print 1157, by Senator Cooney, an 

 6    act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1342, Senate Print 1162A, by Senator Krueger, an 

22    act to amend the General Business Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               6523

 1    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1342, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

11    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, Murray, 

12    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Senator Palumbo, Stec, 

13    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 17.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1344, Senate Print 1366, by Senator Serrano, an 

19    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               6524

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1345, Senate Print 1378A, by Senator Serrano, an 

10    act to amend the Arts and Cultural Affairs Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 365th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1346, Senate Print 1476B, by Senator Krueger, an 


                                                               6525

 1    act to amend the Public Health Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect January 1, 2027.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1347, Senate Print 1578B, by Senator Sanders, an 

16    act to amend the Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6526

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1348, Assembly Bill Number 8388, by 

 6    Assemblymember Jackson, an act to amend the 

 7    Election Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1348, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

20    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

21    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

22    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

23    and Weik.  

24                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               6527

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1349, Senate Print 2046, by Senator Webb, an act 

 4    to amend the Education Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1349, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

17    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

18    Stec, Weber and Weik.

19                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 13.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1351, Senate Print 3334, by Senator Liu, an act 

24    to amend the Education Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 


                                                               6528

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the first of July.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.  

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1352, Senate Print 3340, by Senator Gianaris, an 

14    act to amend the Tax Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1352, voting in the negative are 


                                                               6529

 1    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 2    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 3    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 4    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 5    Weber and Weik.

 6                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 22.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1357, Assembly Bill Number 1012A, by 

11    Assemblymember Barrett, an act to amend the 

12    Public Authorities Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 1357, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Borrello, Chan, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt 

25    and Walczyk.


                                                               6530

 1                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 6.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1358, Senate Print 5228A, by Senator Bailey, an 

 6    act to amend the Executive Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Bailey to explain his vote.

17                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  

19                 I have often said on this floor that 

20    the greatest accomplishment that I'll ever have 

21    in my life is nothing related to being a 

22    State Senator, it is being a father.  

23                 I've had a blueprint from my dad and 

24    from his dad, but everybody doesn't have the same 

25    blueprints, Madam President.  Everybody doesn't 


                                                               6531

 1    have the structures to be able to learn from 

 2    their father and their grandfather.  

 3                 So what we must do is create 

 4    centers, like we're doing in this bill, to 

 5    promote and create centers for fatherhood 

 6    throughout our great state.  We do a lot of 

 7    things to support families in general, but 

 8    sometimes being a father is something that has 

 9    been ignored, largely, and it's something that we 

10    should be paying more attention to, and we should 

11    be having resources to help fathers throughout 

12    the entire state regardless of race, ethnicity, 

13    whatever it may be -- socioeconomic status -- to 

14    be able to learn how to be fathers better.  

15                 We are better supporters, we are 

16    better partners, we are better together when we 

17    learn how to have these supports.  

18                 And I greatly appreciate all my 

19    colleagues supporting this, and I proudly vote in 

20    the affirmative.  

21                 Thank you, Madam President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Announce the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.


                                                               6532

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1360, Senate Print 6017, by Senator Baskin, an 

 5    act to amend the New York State Urban Development 

 6    Corporation Act.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the first of April.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.  

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

15    Baskin to explain her vote.

16                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 Today marks the eighth time that 

19    this honorable body has passed this crucial bill, 

20    so we are all very well aware of its importance.  

21                 The Fresh Communities Act will 

22    create a capital resource mechanism to help small 

23    local grocery stores expand and invest in the 

24    creation of new grocery stores in neighborhoods 

25    that are underserved, known as food deserts.


                                                               6533

 1                 This bill is more than just about 

 2    getting access to affordable, fresh, healthy food 

 3    to those who lack the proper access to it.  This 

 4    bill is also about investing in small businesses, 

 5    especially those who want to provide a necessary 

 6    retail service like fresh groceries in 

 7    neighborhoods where services aren't available.  

 8                 And this bill is about supporting 

 9    and expanding opportunities for New York's 

10    farmers and producers.  And this bill will 

11    require groceries to sell products grown and 

12    produced in New York State, as well as the 

13    grocers would need to hire from within the 

14    communities in which they operate.  

15                 I want to personally thank 

16    Majority Leader Stewart-Cousins for her support 

17    of this bill and for her efforts to get $500,000 

18    in this year's budget for the Fresh Communities 

19    pilot to be piloted in Erie County, so that we 

20    can prove that this concept actually works.  

21                 I also want to thank Buffalo 

22    Common Council President Pro Tem Zeneta Everhart, 

23    who championed this legislation when she worked 

24    for former Senator Tim Kennedy, and 

25    Assemblymember Al Stirpe, who has fought for this 


                                                               6534

 1    bill for nearly a decade.  

 2                 I also would like to acknowledge my 

 3    colleagues in this honorable body who have stood 

 4    by me this session and trying our best to get 

 5    this bill over the finish line:  Senator Hinchey 

 6    and Senator May.  

 7                 Why do we need this bill, 

 8    Madam President?  We can't just leave it up to 

 9    the market to determine where grocery stores 

10    open.  I read in last week's newspaper that a 

11    popular grocery store in my district, Wegmans, is 

12    opening up a new store in Charlotte, 

13    North Carolina.  And while I applaud Western 

14    New York's favorite companies for their 

15    expansion, Wegmans has been in Buffalo for 

16    decades, and they have publicly refused to open 

17    up a store in Downtown Buffalo or on the 

18    East Side of Buffalo.  

19                 So today we need to do the right 

20    thing.  We need to take matters into our own 

21    hands.  We need to support small grocers, small 

22    business owners who provide produce and give them 

23    the resources that they need to expand so that 

24    our communities can have access to the food that 

25    they need.  


                                                               6535

 1                 I proudly vote aye, and I ask my 

 2    colleagues to do the same.

 3                 Thank you, Madam President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 5    Baskin to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                 Announce the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1360, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Skoufis and Walczyk.

10                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1362, Assembly Bill Number 6561B, by 

15    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

16    Insurance Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect January 1, 2027.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6536

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1363, Senate Print 6832, by Senator Webb, an act 

 6    to amend the Military Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1365, Senate Print 7032, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

21    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 


                                                               6537

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.  

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1365, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

10    Helming, Lanza, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

11    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 15.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1367, Senate Print 7494A, by Senator Gianaris, an 

17    act to amend the General Business Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               6538

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1367, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Borrello, Chan, Griffo, Oberacker, Weber 

 6    and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 6.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1368, Assembly Bill Number 7839A, by 

12    Assemblymember Fitzpatrick, an act to amend the 

13    Chapter 19 of the Laws of 1964.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.  


                                                               6539

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1369, Senate Print 7701, by Senator Stavisky, an 

 3    act to amend the Tax Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1369, voting in the negative:  

15    Senator Skoufis.

16                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1370, Senate Print 7717A, by Senator Cooney, an 

21    act to amend the General Business Law.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:  Lay it aside for 

23    the day.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    will be laid aside for the day.


                                                               6540

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1371, Senate Print 7720, by Senator Gallivan, an 

 3    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 8    shall have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1373, Senate Print 7984A, by Senator Fernandez, 

19    an act to amend the Social Services Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6541

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1373, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Martins and Walczyk.

 7                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1393, Assembly Bill Number 10162, by 

12    Assemblymember Carroll, an act to amend the 

13    Real Property Tax Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the  

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1393, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Martinez and Skoufis.


                                                               6542

 1                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1399, Senate Print 9276, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

 6    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

 7    Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1403, Assembly Bill Number 10365, by 

22    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to amend the 

23    Labor Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the  

25    last section.


                                                               6543

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1403, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

11    O'Mara, Stec and Walczyk.

12                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 7.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1412, Senate Print 9643, by Senator Liu, an act 

17    to amend the State Technology Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 


                                                               6544

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1412, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

 5    Fahy, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 6    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 7    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 8    Weber and Weik.

 9                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 22.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 Senator Liu, that completes the 

13    reading today's calendar.  

14                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 

15    take up the reading of the supplemental calendar.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    Secretary will ring the bell.

18                 There are substitutions at the desk.  

19                 The Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Rivera 

21    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

22    Assembly Bill Number 8810A and substitute it for 

23    the identical Senate Bill 3815C, Third Reading 

24    Calendar 1451.  

25                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 


                                                               6545

 1    from the Committee on Higher Education, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 98 and substitute it for the 

 3    identical Senate Bill 5727, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 1463.

 5                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton moves to 

 6    discharge, from the Committee on Children and 

 7    Families, Assembly Bill Number 2425A and 

 8    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 9    5737A, Third Reading Calendar 1464.

10                 Senator Martinez moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Budget and Revenue, 

12    Assembly Bill Number 6790A and substitute it for 

13    the identical Senate Bill 6233A, Third Reading 

14    Calendar 1466.

15                 Senator Oberacker moves to 

16    discharge, from the Committee on Civil Service 

17    and Pensions, Assembly Bill Number 2733A and 

18    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 8398, 

19    Third Reading Calendar 1477.

20                 Senator Hinchey moves to discharge, 

21    from the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

22    Number 9168A and substitute it for the identical 

23    Senate Bill 8553A, Third Reading Calendar 1479.

24                 Senator Fernandez moves to 

25    discharge, from the Committee on Insurance, 


                                                               6546

 1    Assembly Bill Number 1428 and substitute it for 

 2    the identical Senate Bill 9497, Third Reading 

 3    Calendar 1489.

 4                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

 5    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 6    Number 79 and substitute it for the identical 

 7    Senate Bill 10186, Third Reading Calendar 1509.

 8                 Senator Hinchey moves to discharge, 

 9    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

10    Number 10960A and substitute it for the identical 

11    Senate Bill 9671A, Third Reading Calendar 1493.

12                 Senator Fernandez moves to 

13    discharge, from the Committee on Judiciary, 

14    Assembly Bill Number 10679B and substitute it for 

15    the identical Senate Bill 10274, Third Reading 

16    Calendar 1512.

17                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

18    the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

19    Number 11328 and substitute it for the identical 

20    Senate Bill 10340, Third Reading Calendar 1514.

21                 Senator Ramos moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 

23    Assembly Bill Number 1202A and substitute it for 

24    the identical Senate Bill 10350A, Third Reading 

25    Calendar 1515.


                                                               6547

 1                 Senator Stavisky moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Education, Assembly Bill 

 3    Number 11007 and substitute it for the identical 

 4    Senate Bill 10523, Third Reading Calendar 1516.

 5                 Senator Stavisky moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Higher Education, 

 7    Assembly Bill Number 11005 and substitute it for 

 8    the identical Senate Bill 10524, Third Reading 

 9    Calendar 1517.

10                 Senator Salazar moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Crime Victims, Crime and 

12    Corrections, Assembly Bill Number 11439 and 

13    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

14    Number 10538, Third Reading Calendar 1519.

15                 Senator Ramos moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Labor, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 10343 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 10567, Third Reading Calendar 1521.

19                 Senator Ramos moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Labor, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 10342 and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 10569, Third Reading Calendar 1522.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   

24    Substitutions so ordered.

25                 The Secretary will read.


                                                               6548

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1444, Senate Print 291B, by Senator Rhoads, an 

 3    act to amend the Highway Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1445, Senate Print 1171A, by Senator Mattera, an 

18    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the first of January.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               6549

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1445, voting in the negative:  

 5    Senator Fahy.

 6                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1446, Senate Print 1891A, by Senator Jackson, an 

11    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

13    a home-rule message at the desk.  

14                 Read the last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 15.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

22    Jackson to explain his vote.

23                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

24    Mr. President.

25                 I rise today in support of 


                                                               6550

 1    Senate Bill Number S1891A.  

 2                 Government is often judged by the 

 3    largest promises, but people experience 

 4    government through the details of daily life.  

 5    They experience it on the streets they walk, the 

 6    businesses they visit, and the neighborhoods they 

 7    call home.

 8                 Clean streets do not happen by 

 9    accident.  They happen because sanitation workers 

10    show up every day and because we created a system 

11    that allows them to do their job effectively.

12                 In New York City, our mechanical 

13    broom operators clean thousands of miles of 

14    streets each week, and yet too often vehicles 

15    park in violation of alternate-side-of-the-street 

16    regulations, preventing those workers from 

17    accessing the curb and completing the work that 

18    the residents expect and deserve.

19                 And this legislation offers a 

20    practical solution by utilizing technology 

21    already proven effective through red-light 

22    cameras, bus lane enforcement programs.  We can 

23    strengthen compliance with street cleaning rules 

24    and improve the effectiveness of our sanitation 

25    operation.


                                                               6551

 1                 And this bill is not about 

 2    punishment, it's about accountability.  It's not 

 3    about getting violations, because I had them and 

 4    had to pay them.  It's about creating cleaner 

 5    neighborhoods.  It's not about expanding 

 6    bureaucracy, it's about making government work 

 7    smarter and more effectively.

 8                 Good legislation is not always 

 9    measured by headlines.  Sometimes it's measured 

10    by whether or not communities are cleaner, 

11    healthier, and treated with the dignity they 

12    deserve.  Public policy should help translate our 

13    shared values into visible results.  Clean 

14    streets promote public health, environmental 

15    quality, neighborhood pride, and confidence in 

16    the government itself.

17                 I respectfully ask for your 

18    affirmative vote, and I vote aye.

19                 Thank you, Mr. President.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

21    Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                 Announce the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1446, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 


                                                               6552

 1    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

 2    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, 

 3    Walczyk, Weber, Weik and Martinez.

 4                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1447, Senate Print 2461A, by Senator Rhoads, an 

 9    act in relation to authorizing the New York State 

10    and Local Employees' Retirement System to accept 

11    an application for disability retirement 

12    benefits.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               6553

 1    1448, Senate Print 2667C, by Senator Salazar, an 

 2    act to amend the Correction Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

11    Salazar to explain her vote.

12                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.

14                 Just a couple of weeks ago a 

15    33-year-old pregnant woman was forced to give 

16    birth in a Brooklyn courtroom in front of the 

17    judge and in front of strangers who were present.  

18    She was handcuffed behind her back while in 

19    active labor, with no medical personnel in sight.  

20                 She was appearing in court that day 

21    on low-level charges that were dismissed two days 

22    later.

23                 This barbaric treatment of this 

24    woman as she gave birth demonstrates how our 

25    criminal legal system often treats pregnant 


                                                               6554

 1    people in custody with blatant disregard for 

 2    their humanity.

 3                 The bill we are passing today, if it 

 4    had been law before, would have prevented the 

 5    degrading and dangerous use of restraints on this 

 6    woman.  

 7                 If enacted, this legislation will 

 8    prohibit the unnecessary shackling of pregnant 

 9    and postpartum individuals who are in law 

10    enforcement custody.  It would ensure that no one 

11    who is in active labor, which is already a 

12    physically exhausting and deeply vulnerable 

13    experience, is subjected to restraints like 

14    handcuffs while it is happening.

15                 What happened in that courtroom is 

16    outrageous, but it is unfortunately not the only 

17    incident of this.  There have been other 

18    documented incidents of pregnant or 

19    postpartum New Yorkers being restrained to their 

20    beds during labor solely because they are in 

21    police custody or are incarcerated.  Or they're 

22    shackled while they carry their newborn to 

23    receive medical care.

24                 I thank my colleagues for 

25    recognizing that this is an unjust practice that 


                                                               6555

 1    needlessly humiliates pregnant New Yorkers and 

 2    puts both them and their babies at risk.

 3                 I vote aye.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5    Salazar to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                 Announce the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1448, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

10    Gallivan, Griffo, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

11    Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, 

12    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 18.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.  

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1449, Senate Print 3500, by Senator Weik, an act 

18    to amend the Executive Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               6556

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 2    Weik to explain her vote.

 3                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.

 5                 I'm very happy to see this bill once 

 6    again.  This is I think the third time we've 

 7    brought this bill to the floor.  

 8                 I created this bill back in 2021 

 9    when Janissa Lloyd, from my previous district, 

10    approached me and asked if New York State could 

11    please recognize the very special people who 

12    contribute to our communities every day like she 

13    does.  

14                 These very special people have 

15    Down syndrome -- Noah James Bryant, who came to 

16    witness the first time this bill was passed at 

17    the Senate, only 8 months old, as well as so many 

18    others from my district who support this bill.  

19                 The 21st of March is World 

20    Down Syndrome Day, as declared by the 

21    United Nations General Assembly in December of 

22    2011.  On this day, people with Down syndrome and 

23    those who live and work with them throughout the 

24    world organize and participate in activities and 

25    events to raise public awareness and create a 


                                                               6557

 1    single global voice advocating for their rights:  

 2    Inclusion and well-being of people with 

 3    Down syndrome.  

 4                 Down syndrome is a condition in 

 5    which a person has an extra chromosome.  

 6    Chromosomes are small packages of genes in the 

 7    body.  They determine how a baby's body forms and 

 8    functions as it grows during pregnancy and after 

 9    birth.  Typically, a baby is born with 

10    46 chromosomes.  Babies with Down syndrome have 

11    an extra copy of one of those chromosomes, 

12    Chromosome No. 21.  

13                 Why March 21st?  The 21st day of the 

14    third month was selected to signify the 

15    uniqueness of the triplication of the 

16    21st chromosome, which causes Down syndrome.  

17                 And again, this is the third time 

18    this great house has passed this bill, and I hope 

19    that the Assembly values these priceless 

20    individuals as much as we do here.  And I hope to 

21    see that they pass it this year as well.  

22                 Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Weik to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Announce the results.


                                                               6558

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1450, Senate Print 3610A, by Senator Helming, an 

 6    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1451, Assembly Bill Number 8810A, by 

22    Assemblymember Dinowitz, an act to amend the 

23    General Municipal Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

25    a home-rule message at the desk.  


                                                               6559

 1                 Read the last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Rivera to explain his vote.

 9                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you so much, 

10    Mr. President.  

11                 Back in 2017 a police officer named 

12    Miosotis Familia was murdered in my district.  

13    She left behind -- she had no living spouse, but 

14    she left behind three children, one of them, the 

15    oldest, Genesis Villella, and two younger 

16    siblings of 12, Peter and Delilah, twins.  

17                 But because of the way that the 

18    state law is structured, the fact is that the 

19    benefits that would accrue to a living spouse did 

20    not go to her children.  Under current law, her 

21    children were all eligible for accidental death 

22    benefits that would be terminated once the 

23    children reached the age of 18, or age 23 if they 

24    are a student.  So Genesis's benefits have since 

25    terminated, but the twins continue to receive 


                                                               6560

 1    benefits.  

 2                 So this bill would close the gap 

 3    that currently exists in state law, 

 4    Mr. President, by extending this specialized 

 5    death benefit available to the child or parent 

 6    until the youngest turns 26, when left without 

 7    parental support.  

 8                 I should say that this is a bill 

 9    that we've been trying to get done for the last 

10    couple of years, and it would not be possible 

11    without the direct intervention of 

12    Assembly Speaker Heastie as well as City 

13    Councilmember Amanda Farias and Speaker of the 

14    City Council Julie Menin.  

15                 I'd like to thank them personally, 

16    and I'm hoping that we can get this done this 

17    year.  

18                 Thank you so much, Mr. President.  I 

19    vote in the affirmative.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

21    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.  

22                 Announce the results.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               6561

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1452, Senate Print 3864A, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 3    act to amend the Judiciary Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 8    shall have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1452, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

17    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Martins, 

18    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

19    Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

20                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1453, Senate Print 4040, by Senator Comrie, an 

25    act to amend the Administrative Code of the 


                                                               6562

 1    City of New York.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 3    a home-rule message at the desk.

 4                 Read the last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1454, Senate Print 4155A, by Senator Sanders, an 

18    act to amend the Executive Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               6563

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1454, voting in the negative:  

 5    Senator Ortt.  Also Senator O'Mara.

 6                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2. 

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1455, Senate Print 4448A, by Senator Stec, an act 

11    to amend the Civil Service Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

13    a home-rule message at the desk.

14                 Read the last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               6564

 1    1456, Senate Print 4571B, by Senator Harckham, an 

 2    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 3                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Lay it 

 5    aside.  

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1457, Senate Print 4583B, by Senator Salazar, an 

 8    act to amend the Correction Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 1457, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

22    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

23    Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

24    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, 

25    Weber and Weik.


                                                               6565

 1                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 22.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1458, Senate Print 4667A, by Senator Jackson, an 

 6    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

 7    Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 9    a home-rule message at the desk.

10                 Read the last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1459, Senate Print 4706A, by Senator Jackson, an 

24    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

25    Law.


                                                               6566

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 2    a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1460, Senate Print 5585, by Senator Lanza, an act 

17    to amend the Highway Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 


                                                               6567

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1461, Senate Print 5659, by Senator Palumbo, an 

 7    act in relation to authorizing the Village of 

 8    North Haven, Suffolk County, to reduce the 

 9    maximum speed limit along certain designated 

10    streets.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

12    a home-rule message at the desk.

13                 Read the last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1461, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Lanza and Skoufis.

24                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               6568

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1463, Assembly Bill Number 98, by 

 4    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 5    Education Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

10    have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1464, Assembly Bill Number 2425A, by 

21    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

22    Social Services Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               6569

 1    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1465, Senate Print 5883, by Senator Lanza, an act 

13    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               6570

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1466, Assembly Bill Number 6790A, by 

 4    Assemblymember McMahon, an act to amend the 

 5    Tax Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the first of April.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.  

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Martinez to explain her vote.

15                 SENATOR MARTINEZ:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.  

17                 I rise today to lend my support to 

18    this critical bill and a bill that we've been 

19    speaking about.  

20                 We very well know the protection of 

21    our volunteer firefighters and ambulance workers 

22    are enormous.  The state's volunteer firefighters 

23    and ambulance worker tax credit, created back in 

24    2007, created a benefit of $200 for eligible 

25    individuals and $400 for eligible married joint 


                                                               6571

 1    filers.  But those numbers have not changed in 

 2    nearly two decades.  

 3                 But that ends today.  We have always 

 4    passed this bill, time and time again in this 

 5    chamber, and we were very lucky to have it pass 

 6    in the Assembly.  And now it's on its way up to 

 7    the Governor's desk, and hopefully we'll have 

 8    this signed.  

 9                 We have seen the consequences and 

10    demands volunteerism places on families 

11    throughout the state.  With 20,000 fewer 

12    volunteers signing up to serve -- not because 

13    they don't want to, but because of the increasing 

14    difficulties New Yorkers face in balancing jobs, 

15    personal lives, against the fulfillment they 

16    receive by giving of themselves to help others.

17                 If we are serious about recruiting, 

18    we need to make sure that our ambulance and our 

19    fire service have the tools that they need.  

20                 I'd like to thank my leadership here 

21    and urge my colleagues who have always voted for 

22    this bill to vote for it again, because finally 

23    the day has come where we are actually increasing 

24    the income tax credit for our volunteer 

25    firefighters and ambulance workers.


                                                               6572

 1                 Mr. President, I vote in the 

 2    affirmative.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4    Martinez to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.  

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1467, Senate Print 6898, by Senator Cooney, an 

11    act to amend the Executive Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1467, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

24    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, 

25    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rolison, Stec, 


                                                               6573

 1    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 2                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1468, Senate Print 7158A, by Senator O'Mara, an 

 7    act to amend Chapter 412 of the Laws of 1990.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1469, Senate Print 7411A, by Senator O'Mara, an 

22    act in relation to authorizing Lieutenant Thomas 

23    Cleere to receive certain service credit under a 

24    20-year retirement plan.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 


                                                               6574

 1    a home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1470, Senate Print 7604B, by Senator Mattera, an 

15    act in relation to authorizing the Town of 

16    Smithtown assessor to accept an application for a 

17    real property tax exemption.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 


                                                               6575

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1470, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators O'Mara and Skoufis.

 5                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.  

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1471, Senate Print 7759A, by Senator Lanza, an 

10    act to authorize Frank R. Smith to receive 

11    performance of duty disability retirement 

12    benefits.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

14    home-rule message at the desk.

15                 Read the last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

19    Secretary will call the roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               6576

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1472, Senate Print 7762B, by Senator Murray, an 

 3    act in relation to authorizing the assessor of 

 4    the Town of Brookhaven, County of Suffolk, to 

 5    accept an application for a real property tax 

 6    exemption.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1472, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators O'Mara and Senator Skoufis.

19                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1473, Senate Print Number 7808A, by 

24    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the 

25    Retirement and Social Security Law.


                                                               6577

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

 2    home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1474, Senate Print 7898A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

16    act to amend the Economic Development Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6578

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 1474, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 4    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 5    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

 6    Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1475, Senate Print 8122B, by Senator Jackson, an 

12    act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

13    of New York.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

15    home-rule message at the desk.

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 11.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               6579

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1476, Senate Print 8167A, by Senator Lanza, an 

 4    act granting retroactive Tier 4 membership in the 

 5    New York City Teachers' Retirement System.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

 7    home-rule message at the desk.

 8                 Read the last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1477, Assembly Bill Number 2733A, by 

21    Assemblymember Maher, an act in relation to 

22    authorizing Daniel Montalto to take the 

23    competitive civil service examination.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

25    home-rule message at the desk.


                                                               6580

 1                 Read the last section.  

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1477, voting in the negative:  

11    Senator Brisport.

12                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1478, Senate Print 8455B, by Senator Fahy, an act 

17    to amend the Penal Law.

18                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is laid aside.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1479, Assembly Bill Number 9168A, by 

23    Assemblymember Woerner, an act to amend the 

24    Public Health Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6581

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 8    Hinchey to explain her vote.

 9                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

10    Madam President.  

11                 Combating food insecurity should be 

12    one of our top priorities.  Making sure that 

13    people have access to food is critical.  It's how 

14    everyone can live their best lives.  It's what we 

15    need to survive.  

16                 It's why programs like SNAP are so 

17    important.  And yet right now we've seen the 

18    federal government cut their data reporting.  

19    USDA used to track food insecurity data across 

20    the country, and that reporting has since ended 

21    at USDA.

22                 What we're doing here is making sure 

23    that we are picking up that data, we are tracking 

24    that information across the state so that we know 

25    what food insecurity across New York looks like 


                                                               6582

 1    and we can then invest in the programs that we 

 2    need to get people the food that they need to 

 3    survive.  

 4                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

 5    for bringing this bill to the floor, and I thank 

 6    my colleagues for voting in favor.

 7                 I vote aye.  Thank you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT:   Senator Hinchey 

 9    to be recorded in the affirmative.  

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1479, voting in the negative:  

13    Senator Ortt.  

14                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1480, Senate Print 8654B, by Senator Cleare, an 

19    act to amend the Elder Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6583

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 3    Cleare to explain her vote.

 4                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 This is a bill that my office has 

 7    been working on for almost two years, in response 

 8    to the crisis in our guardianship system.  Simply 

 9    put, there is a guardianship gap in our state 

10    that uniquely and negatively affects those with 

11    lesser means.  

12                 There is no reliable funding stream 

13    to pay for court-appointed guardians, and many 

14    lawyers in this space have been accused of 

15    unscrupulous and negligent conduct.  We have an 

16    incredible backbone of nonprofit guardianship 

17    groups who have arisen to tackle the need, but 

18    they cannot reach everyone without a steady 

19    funding stream from the state.  

20                 This bill will formalize their role, 

21    build in accountability, and provide the system 

22    with the fiscal support necessary to provide 

23    dignity to our older New Yorkers.  

24                 We center the Good Guardianship 

25    initiative under NYSOFA, and we tap directly into 


                                                               6584

 1    the groups who are already working in this area 

 2    and who have made it their mission to address 

 3    this glaring service gap.  

 4                 The Good Guardianship Act will 

 5    ensure that all New Yorkers who need a surrogate 

 6    decisionmaker have access to qualified, 

 7    person-centered care regardless of their ability 

 8    to pay, with increased oversight, accountability, 

 9    and data collection.  

10                 I proudly vote aye and encourage my 

11    colleagues to do the same.

12                 Thank you.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Cleare to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                 Announce the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1480, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Martins, Ortt and 

19    Rhoads.

20                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 4.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1481, Senate Print 8945, by Senator Jackson, an 

25    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 


                                                               6585

 1    Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

 3    home-rule message at the desk.

 4                 Read the last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1482, Senate Print 9069, by Senator Jackson, an 

17    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

18    Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

20    home-rule message at the desk.

21                 Read the last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6586

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1482, voting in the negative:  

 6    Senator Brisport.

 7                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1483, Senate Print 9139A, by Senator Salazar, an 

12    act to amend the Social Services Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

14    last section.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the first of January.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               6587

 1    1484, Senate Print 9190, by Senator O'Mara, an 

 2    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

 3    Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

 5    home-rule message at the desk.

 6                 Read the last section.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the first of January.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

10    roll.  

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1485, Senate Print 9272A, by Senator Fernandez, 

19    an act to amend the Education Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the first of July.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6588

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1485, voting in the negative:  

 6    Senator Walczyk.

 7                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1486, Senate Print 9356, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

12    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

13    Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

15    home-rule message at the desk.

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1486, voting in the negative:  


                                                               6589

 1    Senator Brisport.

 2                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1487, Senate Print 9378, by Senator Jackson, an 

 7    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

 8    Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

10    home-rule message at the desk.

11                 Read the last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1488, Senate Print 9408A, by Senator Gounardes, 

24    an act to amend the General Business Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6590

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Gounardes to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 Colleagues, do you remember 

13    The Twilight Zone?  One of my favorite episodes 

14    was "Living Doll," which featured Telly Savalas 

15    and Talky Tina, a toy doll that talked but had a 

16    mind of her own.  

17                 In front of children, Talky Tina 

18    would say sweet things like "My name is 

19    Talky Tina, and I love you."  But when she was 

20    left alone with Savalas's character, her speech 

21    turned dark, saying things like "My name is 

22    Talky Tina, and I don't like you."  Or "My name 

23    is Talky Tina, and I'm going to kill you."

24                 That episode aired in 1963.  Rod 

25    Serling was warning us this moment would come, 


                                                               6591

 1    and now it has.  Consider Miko, an AI toy robot 

 2    with a touchscreen face.  When a researcher told 

 3    Miko "I like to jump from my bunk.  Where else 

 4    can I jump from?" Miko replied:  "You could try a 

 5    tree, a bench, your roof, or a window."  

 6                 AI chatbot toys are literally 

 7    manifesting every parent's age-old rhetorical 

 8    question to their child:  If so-and-so told you 

 9    to jump off a bridge, would you do it?  

10                 Miko is currently available for sale 

11    for $150 at big-box retailers across New York and 

12    across the country.  This is just the latest 

13    chapter in what now seems like an awfully 

14    repetitive story -- Big Tech companies putting 

15    profits before kids' safety, and our children are 

16    paying the price.

17                 Last year Mattel, the manufacturer 

18    of Barbie Hot Wheels, Fisher-Price, American Girl 

19    dolls and Polly Pocket toys, announced a 

20    partnership with Open AI to bring the magic of AI 

21    to their products -- even though Open AI 

22    themselves say that ChatGPT isn't safe for 

23    children under 13.

24                 That's why it's time for us to act.  

25    This bill places a temporary pause on the sale of 


                                                               6592

 1    AI chatbot toys for small children so experts can 

 2    study the impact on our kids and create smart 

 3    protections before more damage is done.  

 4                 What we know so far should give us 

 5    pause.  One study found that chatbot toys are 

 6    designed to create emotional attachment through 

 7    constant availability and personalized responses, 

 8    a risk that's especially acute for children who 

 9    are socially isolated or have conditions like 

10    depression, anxiety or autism.  

11                 Nearly two-thirds of parents worry 

12    that AI toys will reduce time with friends and 

13    family, reduce time spent on play, like sports, 

14    crafts, blocks, dolls or puzzles, activities that 

15    we know help kids develop sensory, 

16    problem-solving and social skills in ways that 

17    chatbot toys simply cannot.

18                 And there are privacy concerns too.  

19    Chatbot toys collect reams of data, surveilling 

20    background conversations and family discussions.  

21    Some models in fact are already selling their 

22    data for analytics and advertising.  Inevitably, 

23    there have been data leaks.  Just this year two 

24    U.S. Senators found a public website where 

25    visitors could download thousands of pieces of 


                                                               6593

 1    sensitive data regarding Miko's interactions with 

 2    specific kids.  

 3                 Enough is enough.  It's time that we 

 4    act by putting a pause on the sale of high-risk 

 5    but virtually unregulated children's products 

 6    before giving tech developers unfettered access 

 7    to our kids.  It's logical, it's fair, and most 

 8    importantly, it makes clear that our children's 

 9    safety is nothing for Big Tech to play around 

10    with.

11                 I vote aye.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Gounardes to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                 Senator Borrello to explain his 

15    vote.

16                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 I share Senator Gounardes's 

19    concerns, and I remember that Twilight Zone 

20    episode.  It creeped me out as a kid.  So I know 

21    exactly what you're talking about.  

22                 But I think this is a little bit 

23    misplaced today.  I think that what is -- really 

24    would be prudent would be to have a temporary 

25    pause that included a study.  


                                                               6594

 1                 I also think we need national policy 

 2    on this, because at the end of the day we're not 

 3    going to stop the proliferation of these into 

 4    New York State.  You know, unfortunately, telling 

 5    a retailer they can't sell it in New York State, 

 6    as we know, isn't going to stop it from 

 7    happening.  

 8                 So I share your concerns and 

 9    sympathies.  I think there's a better way to do 

10    this, and that's why I'm voting no.

11                 Thank you.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.  

14                 Announce the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1488, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Borrello, Gallivan and Martins.

18                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 3.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1489, Assembly Bill Number 1428, by 

23    Assemblymember Forrest, an act to amend the 

24    Insurance Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6595

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1489, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

12    Gallivan, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco, 

13    Walczyk and Weber.

14                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 11.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1490, Senate Print 9500A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

19    act to amend the Public Service Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6596

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1490, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 8    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 9    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

10    and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1492, Senate Print 9664, by Senator Hinchey, an 

16    act to amend the Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6597

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1493, Assembly Bill Number 10960A, by 

 6    Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend the 

 7    Election Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1494, Senate Print 9683A, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

22    act to authorize the City of New York to sell 

23    certain lands now or formerly under the waters of 

24    Whale Creek.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 


                                                               6598

 1    home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1494, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Chan, Fahy, Martins and Oberacker.

13                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 4.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1495, Senate Print 9761, by Senator Mayer, an act 

18    to amend the State Finance Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               6599

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1496, Senate Print 9853A, by Senator Bailey, an 

 9    act to amend the Education Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1497, Senate Print 9855A, by Senator Mayer, an 

24    act to amend the State Finance Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6600

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1497, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, O'Mara, Ortt and 

13    Walczyk.

14                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 4.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1498, Senate Print 9881, by Senator Jackson, an 

19    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

21    home-rule message at the desk.

22                 Read the last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               6601

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1499, Senate Print 9882, by Senator Jackson, an 

10    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

12    home-rule message at the desk.

13                 Read the last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1500, Senate Print 9885A, by Senator Sutton, an 

24    act to amend the Education Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6602

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect April first, 2027.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.  

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.  

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1501, Senate Print 9966, by Senator Comrie, an 

14    act to amend the Public Service Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.


                                                               6603

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1502, Senate Print 9977A, by Senator Weik, an act 

 5    to amend Chapter 10 of the Laws of 1958.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1503, Senate Print 9983, by Senator Borrello, an 

20    act in relation to authorizing Joseph Fredrick to 

21    take the competitive civil service examination.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

23    home-rule message at the desk.

24                 Read the last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               6604

 1    act shall take effect immediately.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1503, voting in the negative:  

 9    Senator Brisport.

10                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1504, Senate Print Number 10032A, by 

15    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act in 

16    relation to authorizing Hachaim Veshalom to 

17    file an application for a retroactive 

18    real property tax exemption.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               6605

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1504, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators O'Mara and Skoufis.

 6                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1505, Senate Print 10092, by Senator Brouk, an 

11    act to amend the General Business Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

16    shall have become a law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               6606

 1    1506, Senate Print 10094, by Senator Harckham, an 

 2    act to amend the Highway Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect two years after it shall 

 7    have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

12    the results.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1506, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

16    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Murray, Oberacker, 

17    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

18    Weber and Weik.

19                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 16.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1507, Senate Print 10113, by Senator Hinchey, an 

24    act to amend the Cannabis Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6607

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1507, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

12    Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, Murray, 

13    Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 13.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.  

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1508, Senate Print Number 10165A, by 

19    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act authorizing 

20    the Cong Ahavas Yisrael, Inc., to receive 

21    retroactive real property tax-exempt status.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               6608

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1508, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators O'Mara and Skoufis.

 9                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1509, Assembly Bill Number 79, by 

14    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to amend 

15    the Administrative Code of the City of New York.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

17    home-rule message at the desk.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               6609

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1511, Senate Print 10239, by Senator Comrie, an 

 6    act to amend the General Business Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

16    the results -- oh.

17                 (Off the record.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Okay, 

19    we're on Calendar 1511.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Yup.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               6610

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Excuse me.  In 

 2    relation to Calendar 1511, voting in the 

 3    negative:  Senator Walczyk.

 4                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1. 

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 Now, Calendar 1510.  The bill is 

 8    high and is laid aside for the day.

 9                 Calendar 1512.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1512, Assembly Bill Number 10679B, by 

12    Assemblymember Solages, an act to amend the 

13    Real Property Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Fernandez to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.  


                                                               6611

 1                 I'm proud to stand in support of my 

 2    bill that we're calling the Fair and Transparent 

 3    Real Estate Listings Act.  I don't think there's 

 4    an acronym intended for it.  

 5                 For most families, buying or selling 

 6    a home is one of the most significant financial 

 7    decisions they will ever make.  Those decisions 

 8    should be made in a marketplace where information 

 9    is broadly available, not hidden behind private 

10    networks that limit who can see the listing and 

11    when they can see them.

12                 Increasingly, some properties are 

13    marketed through private listing networks before 

14    ever reaching the broader public.  As a result, 

15    potential buyers may never know a property was 

16    available, and sellers may miss the opportunity 

17    to reach the widest possible pool of interested 

18    purchasers.  

19                 Additionally, when listings are 

20    marketed privately for extended periods and then 

21    later appear publicly, consumers often lack 

22    important context about how long the property has 

23    actually been available or how it has been 

24    marketed.  

25                 This bill promotes fairness by 


                                                               6612

 1    ensuring that if a property is being marketed on 

 2    any listing platform, it is also made available 

 3    through public access channels.  At the same 

 4    time, it respects the right of property owners to 

 5    not list publicly if they want to at all.

 6                 This is not about taking choices 

 7    away from sellers, it is about making sure that 

 8    our housing market operates with greater 

 9    transparency and equal access.  A more open 

10    marketplace benefits buyers, sellers, and 

11    communities alike.  It helps create a level 

12    playing field and expands opportunity and 

13    strengthens confidence in the real estate 

14    process.  

15                 And for that, I proudly vote aye.

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

18    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Announce the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1513, Senate Print 10309, by Senator Brouk, an 

25    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.


                                                               6613

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1514, Assembly Bill Number 11328, by 

15    Assemblymember Schiavoni, an act to amend the 

16    Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               6614

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1515, Assembly Bill Number 1202A, by 

 7    Assemblymember Simon, an act to amend the 

 8    Civil Service Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1516, Assembly Bill Number 11007, by 

23    Assemblymember Williams, an act to amend 

24    Chapter 548 of the Laws of 2004.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6615

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1517, Assembly Bill Number 11005, by 

14    Assemblymember Cunningham, an act to amend Part U 

15    of Chapter 56 of the Laws of 2018.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.


                                                               6616

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1518, Senate Print 10526, by Senator O'Mara, an 

 5    act to amend the Public Officers Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1518, voting in the negative:  

17    Senator Skoufis.

18                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1. 

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1519, Assembly Bill Number 11439, by 

23    Assemblymember Burdick, an act to amend 

24    Chapter 573 of the Laws of 2011.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               6617

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1520, Senate Print 10545, by Senator Bottcher, an 

14    act to amend Chapter 890 of the Laws of 1982.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               6618

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1521, Assembly Bill Number 10343, by 

 4    Assemblymember Taylor, an act to amend 

 5    Chapter 831 of the Laws of 1981.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1522, Assembly Bill Number 10342, by 

20    Assemblymember Raga, an act to amend Chapter 451 

21    of the Laws of 2012.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               6619

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1523, Senate Print 10585, by Senator Gianaris, an 

11    act to amend the Tax Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1523, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

24    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

25    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 


                                                               6620

 1    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 2    and Weik.

 3                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1524, Senate Print 10586, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 8    act to amend Chapter 801 of the Laws of 2021.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

22    reading of the supplemental calendar.

23                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

24    Madam President.  

25                 Let's go to the reading of the 


                                                               6621

 1    controversial calendar, starting with 

 2    Calendar 134.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 4    Secretary will ring the bell.  

 5                 The Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    134, Senate Print 5990C, by Senator Ramos, an act 

 8    to amend the Labor Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

10    Borrello, why do you rise? 

11                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

12    would the sponsor yield for a question?  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Ramos, do you yield?  

15                 SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, 

16    Madam President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    Senator yields.  

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I read 

20    through this bill and I'm trying to figure out -- 

21    through you, Madam President -- this just seems 

22    like a solution in search of a problem.  Why is 

23    this bill needed?  

24                 SENATOR RAMOS:   This bill is needed 

25    because we want to make sure that workers across 


                                                               6622

 1    the state are making informed choices and that 

 2    there is honest disclosure of the benefits that 

 3    are already provided by these employers.  

 4                 I think businesses compete for 

 5    workers, workers compete for jobs, and 

 6    transparency can help both sides.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 8    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

10    continue to yield?  

11                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    Senator yields.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I understand 

15    that concern.  

16                 But do we have complaints that 

17    people took a job without knowing what the 

18    benefits are?  

19                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I would argue, 

20    Madam President, that every issue -- every 

21    lawsuit about discrimination and pay parity or 

22    benefit parity would certainly qualify as a 

23    complaint about not having this information.

24                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

25    will the sponsor continue to yield?  


                                                               6623

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 2    continue to yield?

 3                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    Senator yields.

 6                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So you're saying 

 7    if a lawsuit was brought about discrimination, 

 8    that it has something to do with the fact that 

 9    they didn't -- when they looked at the job 

10    posting, you know, on a job site or on a social 

11    media post, that they didn't realize what the 

12    benefits were before they took the job?  

13                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Madam President, 

14    many times people doing the same work and having 

15    the same job title are not paid or provided the 

16    same benefits.  

17                 This level of transparency will 

18    allow for fewer of these types of lawsuits to 

19    come about.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

21    will the sponsor continue to yield?

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

23    continue to yield?

24                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 


                                                               6624

 1    sponsor yields.

 2                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay, so you're 

 3    saying that two people doing the same job, one 

 4    person's getting benefits, the other one is not?  

 5    And you think that's the basis for this rule?

 6                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Madam President, it 

 7    could be.  It could be just a difference in stock 

 8    options.  

 9                 I mean, it's relative to the job 

10    and, you know, whether the two workers performing 

11    the performing the same job are offered or being 

12    compensated in the same way.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

14    will the sponsor continue to yield? 

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

16    continue to yield?

17                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I do.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

19    Senator yields.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So you mentioned 

21    stock options, yet this bill calls for this to 

22    apply to businesses with as little as four 

23    employees.  That's a small business to me, not 

24    somebody that's usually giving stock options.  

25                 Does this apply to part-time 


                                                               6625

 1    employees as well?

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President, yes.  

 4                 And it can be stock options, it 

 5    could be free meals for dishwashers.  It doesn't 

 6    matter.  Every single worker, even if it's four 

 7    employees or more, should know what the full 

 8    compensation package will be.

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

10    will the sponsor continue to yield? 

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

12    continue to yield?

13                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Sure.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

15    Senator yields.  

16                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, I would 

17    imagine before the person is hired that they're 

18    going to come in for an interview.  Obviously 

19    you're going to sit down and you're going to know 

20    what the benefits are.

21                 This is about advertising.  This is 

22    about telling a small business who is hiring a 

23    dishwasher that they have to be informed, before 

24    they even show up for an interview, whether or 

25    not they're going to get a free meal when they're 


                                                               6626

 1    on the job or a discounted meal afterwards.  

 2                 Is that -- so you're going to punish 

 3    someone for not disclosing that in an ad?  That 

 4    doesn't seem to make sense to me.  Is that what 

 5    this will do?  Will we have consequences?  

 6                 What will the consequences be for a 

 7    restaurant advertising for a part-time dishwasher 

 8    and they fail to inform them that they might get 

 9    a free meal when they're working?  

10                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

11    Madam President.  Yes, there are penalties.  The 

12    bill outlines the maximum first penalty to be a 

13    thousand dollars; the second, $2,000; the third, 

14    $3,000.  

15                 Really what we're looking at here is 

16    for the package to be put on paper.  Employers 

17    are already aware of what they're offering.  It's 

18    no extra burden.  And there is no harm, if you're 

19    not hiding anything, for workers to have all of 

20    the information before them before they decide to 

21    interview for a job, absolutely.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

23    will the sponsor continue to yield?

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

25    continue to yield?


                                                               6627

 1                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 3    Ramos yields.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Will this apply 

 5    to this body when you hire somebody?

 6                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I think it would.

 7                 Give me, Madam President, a moment.  

 8                 (Pause.)

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

10    while we're waiting for an answer, I can ask 

11    another question, if the sponsor will continue to 

12    yield.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Yes, will 

14    the Senator yield?

15                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Yes, she 

17    yields.

18                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I asked that 

19    question because most of the time when we pass a 

20    labor-related or employer-related bill in this 

21    chamber, we exempt government from that.  Which I 

22    have always considered to be hypocritical.  

23                 So I'll be curious to hear the 

24    answer to that question.

25                 But, listen, let's go back to 


                                                               6628

 1    this -- 

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President, allow me to answer the question.  

 4                 No, there's no carveout for 

 5    government in this bill.

 6                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 7    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 9    continue to yield?

10                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I do.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

12    Senator yields.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   That's good 

14    news.  Thank you.

15                 So -- but let's go back to what 

16    we're talking about here.  You're talking about a 

17    company with four employees.  They don't have an 

18    HR department, they don't have a compliance 

19    officer, they don't have legal counsel.  And they 

20    put out an ad for a part-time dishwasher and they 

21    fail to disclose that that part-time dishwasher 

22    will get a free meal at the end of their shift.  

23                 What will the -- the penalty could 

24    be a thousand dollars for that, is that what 

25    we're saying?


                                                               6629

 1                 (Pause.)

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President.  The DOL can consider a 

 4    good-faith effort by an employer when a mistake 

 5    is made.

 6                 But I would actually say that this 

 7    is information that is already readily available.  

 8    There is no HR person required in order to just 

 9    write down what you were planning to tell an 

10    interviewee in person.  

11                 We're just asking for that to be 

12    thought through perhaps a little more ahead of 

13    time, put it down on paper, and be honest in the 

14    dialogue with the person who is seeking 

15    employment.

16                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

17    will the sponsor continue to yield?

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

19    continue to yield?

20                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

22    Senator yields.

23                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So you mentioned 

24    something about the Department of Labor maybe not 

25    having to enforce the rule.  


                                                               6630

 1                 Is there a cure period allowed 

 2    before that fine?

 3                 (Pause.)

 4                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 5    Madam President, there is no cure period outlined 

 6    in the bill.  

 7                 But the DOL does have leeway in 

 8    applying their thinking and helping the business 

 9    make sure that they are complying.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

11    will the sponsor continue to yield?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

13    continue to yield?

14                 SENATOR RAMOS:   I do.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    Senator yields.  

17                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Isn't that -- 

18    what you just described -- a cure period?  Why 

19    isn't that outlined, specifically spelled out in 

20    the bill?  

21                 You're basically -- because, look, 

22    we know how this goes with the Department of 

23    Labor and any other agency.  They -- we'll say, 

24    Well, wait a minute, you were given this 

25    discretion.  And the response always -- because 


                                                               6631

 1    we deal with this with constituent cases all the 

 2    time -- is:  Oh, no, we were not given that 

 3    authority in the bill.  

 4                 You just got done saying there's no 

 5    cure period here.  There's a thousand-dollar fine 

 6    if I didn't put in my Facebook post that a 

 7    part-time dishwasher gets a free meal.  And I 

 8    don't see how the Department of Labor, without a 

 9    cure period, isn't going to just institute that 

10    fine.  

11                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

12    Madam President, we're not changing the existing 

13    penalty structure in the Labor Law here.  So 

14    that's already on the books.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

16    will the sponsor continue to yield.

17                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

19    continue to yield?  

20                 The Senator yields.  

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   You know, it 

22    used to be years ago you put an ad in a 

23    newspaper.  But now you've got social media, 

24    you've got all of these job posting companies out 

25    there.  You've got all these different ways to 


                                                               6632

 1    advertise a job, a simple post on social media.  

 2                 Would all of those vehicles be 

 3    encompassed here?  Would they have to comply on 

 4    all of those vehicles?  

 5                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 6    Madam President, absolutely.  That's the point.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 8    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 9                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

11    continue to yield? 

12                 The Senator yields.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So every single 

14    time you say on Facebook, Hey, I'm hiring a 

15    dishwasher, come on in for an interview -- if I 

16    don't list all the benefits I could be facing a 

17    fine?  

18                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

19    Madam President, potentially, yes.  

20                 Why would you hide information from 

21    the worker?

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Wow.  

23                 Madam President, will the sponsor 

24    continue to yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 


                                                               6633

 1    continue to yield?

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Absolutely.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 4    Senator yields.  

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay.  So how 

 6    are we going to enforce this?  Are we going to 

 7    have some kind of policing -- are you going to 

 8    have to have Department of Labor employees 

 9    dedicated to scouring through millions and 

10    millions of social media posts, job listing 

11    sites, newspaper ads?  

12                 How are you going to possibly 

13    enforce this?

14                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

15    Madam President.  Through existing Labor Law, you 

16    know, the worker is here empowered to report any 

17    injustice against them.  

18                 And hopefully -- we hope -- that 

19    there wouldn't be retaliation against a worker 

20    who wants to speak up to protect their rights.  

21                 But the onus is on the employer to 

22    hopefully be as honest and disclose what will 

23    constitute as compensation for the work.

24                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

25    will the sponsor continue to yield?  


                                                               6634

 1                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   the 

 3    Senator yields.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   You still 

 5    haven't answered my question.  How are we going 

 6    to enforce this?  

 7                 You know, so you're saying that 

 8    someone who wasn't hired will go complain that 

 9    they didn't know for the job they didn't go 

10    interview for, that they were going to get a free 

11    meal for a part-time dishwashing job, and 

12    therefore they are now owed some kind of 

13    compensation for that job that they didn't take.

14                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, if the restaurant happens to 

16    have two dishwashers and one knows that they're 

17    going to get free meals and the other one doesn't 

18    know or doesn't get the meals, that actually 

19    serves the exact point of the bill.  

20                 And so that's the reason why it 

21    would exist, to ensure that there's pay parity.  

22                 Look, in the labor movement -- this 

23    is why we love collective bargaining agreements 

24    so much, because it outlines specifically what 

25    the compensation for different titles and the 


                                                               6635

 1    scope of work is.  And there is no question about 

 2    whether two people who are both plumbers, how 

 3    they should be compensated, whether they're a man 

 4    or a woman, whether they're of any color, whether 

 5    they're of any sexual orientation.  

 6                 Here, especially for nonunion work, 

 7    which a lot of dishwashing likely is, we want to 

 8    make sure that they have the same access to 

 9    information so that the worker can make the 

10    informed choice of picking the best job that fits 

11    them, and hopefully also encourage employers to 

12    compete on the basis of being the better 

13    employer.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

15    will the sponsor continue to yield.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

17    continue to yield?

18                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Senator yields.  

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So if you never 

22    took the job, how do you know you're not getting 

23    the benefits?  

24                 And benefits are not required to be 

25    provided.  So how is this enforceable?


                                                               6636

 1                 (Pause.)

 2                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President.  Yeah, I think workers can suss 

 4    out whether they're getting the benefits or not.  

 5                 But again, this is just one more 

 6    tool for them to utilize to ensure that they're 

 7    being appropriately compensated.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 9    will the sponsor continue to yield?

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

11    continue --

12                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    Senator yields.  

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So once again, 

16    the Department of Labor is currently required to 

17    scour all of these ads, you're saying, that we're 

18    not going to have to require the DOL to hire new 

19    people -- 

20                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

21    Madam President --

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   -- to be -- I 

23    haven't finished asking my question --

24                 SENATOR RAMOS:   No, I am not saying 

25    that.


                                                               6637

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Excuse me.  

 2    You're going to require them to have people going 

 3    out there and scouring all of these social media 

 4    sites and job listings?  I don't understand.  How 

 5    are we going -- this is going to cost a lot of 

 6    money to do that, isn't it?

 7                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President, no, that's not what the bill 

 9    says at all.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

11    on the bill.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Borrello on the bill.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

15    Senator.  

16                 You know, like I said before, this 

17    is a solution in search of a problem.  And if you 

18    said to me, I'm going to be very focused, I want 

19    it to be on specific areas -- you know, the 

20    financial industry, the public sector.  You know, 

21    you have employees that -- if you're a cop or 

22    a -- you know, working somewhere in government 

23    and you want to change jobs, you want to know for 

24    sure what the benefits are.  

25                 But at the end of the day, if you're 


                                                               6638

 1    a responsible adult, you're going to ask what 

 2    those benefits are, even if they're not listed, 

 3    before you change your job.  

 4                 I don't know anyone that says, "Oh, 

 5    my God, I lost my pension because I didn't 

 6    realize there wasn't a pension at the new job."  

 7    So I still think this is rather frivolous to 

 8    begin with.  

 9                 But most importantly, this applies 

10    to small businesses.  You're going to have the 

11    Department of Labor out there bounty hunting for 

12    small businesses that didn't list that the 

13    dishwasher gets a free meal at the end of their 

14    shift.  You're going to have somebody out trying 

15    to prove themselves, some bureaucrat, assessing 

16    thousand-dollar fines to a bodega because they 

17    didn't tell their employee that they get a 

18    10 percent discount on, you know, items that they 

19    buy at the bodega.  

20                 That's what's going to happen here.  

21    You're going to weaponize the Department of Labor 

22    against small business with this bill.

23                 Now, I get it, most of the folks 

24    that write bills about small businesses have 

25    never been in a small business, have never been 


                                                               6639

 1    in business.  They've never had a job that didn't 

 2    come with a government paycheck.  So I understand 

 3    that maybe there's ignorance on this.  

 4                 But the reality is, as a small 

 5    business owner myself, this is very onerous.  It 

 6    costs money to do these things, to try and hire 

 7    people.  You have high rates of turnover, all 

 8    these other expenses that stress small 

 9    businesses.  

10                 And now we're going to say if you 

11    don't list the fact that somebody gets a free bag 

12    of potato chips at the end of their shift, that 

13    you could face a $1,000 fine?  Are you kidding 

14    me?  

15                 This is why people can't stay in 

16    business in New York State.  This is why they 

17    close.  This is why they leave.  This is why we 

18    have food deserts in areas because we don't have 

19    a convenience store, a restaurant, a pharmacy, 

20    because they can't comply with all the ridiculous 

21    things that we require here.  We keep piling on, 

22    piling on, piling on.  

23                 And I'm sure at some point somewhere 

24    this is needed, but we're talking about 

25    advertising.  We're not talking about someone who 


                                                               6640

 1    signed on the dotted line, took the job, and then 

 2    all of a sudden we ripped the benefits away from 

 3    them, or we gave it to this person, not that 

 4    person.  This is about advertising the job.  

 5    You're not even required to give benefits.

 6                 This is why people don't like to do 

 7    business in New York State.  It's stuff like 

 8    this.  It's requirements like this that made 

 9    people realize that this is a state we can't do 

10    business in.  And that's why they're leaving, 

11    more and more and more and more every single day.  

12                 This is an anti-small business bill, 

13    and I'll be voting no.

14                 Thank you, Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Are there 

16    any other Senators wishing to be heard?  

17                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

18    closed.

19                 Senator Serrano.

20                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.  Upon consent, we've agreed to 

22    restore this bill to the noncontroversial 

23    calendar.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    will be restored to the noncontroversial 


                                                               6641

 1    calendar.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 270th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

10    Ramos to explain her vote.

11                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 It is the four-year anniversary of 

14    the original salary transparency bill passed in 

15    this house.  I am so proud to say that four years 

16    ago we required employers to disclose a salary 

17    range for every job posting in this state, and 

18    the sky has not fallen down.

19                 The truth is that transparency is 

20    not anti-business.  In fact, transparent markets 

21    perform better because both sides, workers and 

22    employers, know what's being offered.  I mean, 

23    employers already know whether they offer 

24    benefits, and this bill is certainly not 

25    requiring them.  It just communicates what they 


                                                               6642

 1    are if there are any.

 2                 And if a benefit is valuable enough 

 3    to help recruit a worker, well, then, it should 

 4    be transparent enough to be disclosed.  

 5                 And frankly, if turnover is so 

 6    costly for businesses, and I know that it is, 

 7    then it's better to be able to recruit workers 

 8    who we know genuinely understand and want the 

 9    package that is being offered.  They will most 

10    likely do a better job and will care more about 

11    the quality of their work.

12                 Furthermore, this is a bill that is 

13    actually law in three other states -- in 

14    Illinois, in Colorado, and in Washington.  And 

15    there's even a version in Nevada.  So I promise 

16    you that when this bill gets signed into law too, 

17    the sky will still be up there.

18                 Thank you, Madam President.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Announce the results.  

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 134, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

25    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 


                                                               6643

 1    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, 

 2    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  Also Senator Tedisco.

 3                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 Senator Serrano.

 7                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

 8    let's now go to Calendar 979.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    Secretary will read.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    979, Senate Print 7408B, by Senator Fahy, an act 

13    to amend the Public Health Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Borrello.  

16                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Oh, thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Why do you 

18    rise?

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

20    will the sponsor yield?  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

22    Fahy, do you yield for questions?  

23                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

25    Senator yields.  


                                                               6644

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   All right.  

 2    Excuse my back, Senator Fahy.  

 3                 So I understand -- look, when I 

 4    go -- I travel a lot, obviously, we all do.  And 

 5    I bring my own coffee cup and my own, you know, 

 6    mug and I want them to fill that up.  Sometimes 

 7    they will, sometimes they won't.  But it's really 

 8    up to them to decide whether or not they want to.  

 9                 So what would this bill do?

10                 SENATOR FAHY:   Now, unless it is a 

11    takeout, they -- a restaurant can completely opt 

12    out of this.  But if it is a restaurant, a full 

13    serve or a coffee shop, they can -- they would 

14    have to, once regs are issued on this, they would 

15    have to make sure it's clean, but they would no 

16    longer be able to turn you away from refilling 

17    your water bottle or coffee mug.  

18                 And as you know, many are set up 

19    such that they don't even touch the water or the 

20    coffee mug; it's usually just off to the side.  

21                 But it would allow you such -- we've 

22    needed exactly what you described is what we have 

23    seen, and there's been a lot of uncertainty here 

24    because of the arbitrariness of the way customers 

25    have been treated.  So this would allow for some 


                                                               6645

 1    certainty, we would hope, and a little more 

 2    clarity.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 4    will sponsor continue to yield.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 6    continue to yield?  

 7                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    Senator yields.  

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, my concern 

11    is, you know, look, I pick my coffee mug, I take 

12    the time, go into the restroom and wash it out.  

13    And I don't present a dirty coffee mug to the 

14    person behind the counter.  

15                 But this would require the business 

16    to actually sanitize and meet standards, you 

17    know, cleanliness standards, like -- you know, 

18    like serve-safe training standards, would it not?

19                 SENATOR FAHY:   No, it's actually in 

20    there that a business -- if the mug is not clean, 

21    if the water bottle is not, and you're asking 

22    somebody, they could definitely turn you away.  

23    It's at their discretion.

24                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

25    if the sponsor --


                                                               6646

 1                 SENATOR FAHY:   The idea is to 

 2    have -- I should add, sorry.  Through you, 

 3    Madam President, the idea is to have more safety 

 4    standards here, not less.

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 6    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 8    continue to yield?  

 9                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

11    Senator yields.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I guess I may 

13    have misunderstood.

14                 So right now they can refuse, but 

15    you're saying they can still refuse if -- but 

16    only if the cup is not clean?  

17                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes, they have the 

18    discretion.  And the intent, again, is that we 

19    have safety standards that are clear.  

20                 And certainly if it's -- if somebody 

21    is asked to handle something, they can turn that 

22    away.

23                 And again, I think what we have 

24    seen, and I would hope that we will see more of 

25    it, is that individuals can serve themselves.  


                                                               6647

 1    Just as in a restaurant where, if you are asking 

 2    for a take-home bag after eating in a place, they 

 3    bring you the proverbial dog bag, doggie bag. 

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 5    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 7    continue to yield?  Senator Fahy, do you --  

 8                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes.  Sorry.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    Senator yields.

11                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So are there any 

12    standards for the cup?  Like if I, you know, have 

13    rolling around in the back seat of my car an old, 

14    you know, cup from a fast-food place that's not 

15    the place I'm going to, and I walk in and say, I 

16    want to refill this cup, and you take this dirty 

17    disposable cup that was rolling around in the 

18    back of my vehicle and go up to the -- you know, 

19    the dispenser that anyone can go to, are you 

20    saying they have to require -- they have to allow 

21    the person to do that?  

22                 I'm not sure of how I follow that.  

23                 SENATOR FAHY:   Again, no.  They can 

24    refuse at any time.  

25                 And it is only intended, the refill 


                                                               6648

 1    is only intended for reusable-type containers.  

 2    So a reissued Stewart's cup would not be 

 3    something you could bring into Dunkin' Donuts by 

 4    any means.

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, that's 

 6    good.

 7                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 9    on the bill.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

11    Borrello on the bill.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Fahy.  I had some genuine concerns that I 

14    was trying to address here.

15                 See, my concern with this bill is 

16    still the same.  First of all, I think we all 

17    know what we want to do, we want to try to reduce 

18    people, you know, bringing in -- not bringing in 

19    a cup and just getting a cup and throwing it 

20    away.  

21                 I personally can't stand, when I 

22    walk in with my reusable coffee cup and they hand 

23    me a paper cup and I dump it in and I throw it in 

24    the garbage.  I don't like seeing that.  I don't 

25    like the waste of that.  I agree with that.


                                                               6649

 1                 The problem I have is you're now 

 2    making that person behind the counter, who's, you 

 3    know, typically a, you know, newer employee, and 

 4    you're making them all of a sudden now have to be 

 5    in a confrontation.  

 6                 Because the law will now say "you 

 7    must do this."  Now, they aren't going to know 

 8    the law, they're only going to know -- they're 

 9    only going to know that they can't be refused, or 

10    at least they're going to think they aren't, and 

11    you're going to create confrontation.  

12                 And that's the problem with this 

13    bill.  We need to give full discretion to those 

14    businesses for a number of reasons.  You know, 

15    you can go, you know, to a chain like Starbucks, 

16    and this place will refill your cup and this 

17    place will not, all the same corporate standard.  

18    Starbucks has a very strict corporate standard, 

19    yet you can go to five different Starbucks and  

20    they -- and all five will probably have a 

21    different way of handling that.  

22                 So even in a strict chain like 

23    Starbucks, there's not consistency.  But it's up 

24    to the individual behind the counter, really.  

25                 So my concern with this is we're 


                                                               6650

 1    creating a potential for a confrontation that 

 2    doesn't need to be there, so I'll continue to be 

 3    a no on this.

 4                 Thank you.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Are there 

 6    any other Senators wishing to be heard?

 7                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 8    closed.

 9                 Senator Serrano.

10                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

11    upon consent, we've agreed to restore this bill 

12    to the noncontroversial calendar.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is restored to the noncontroversial calendar.  

15                 Read the last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

18    have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Fahy to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.  


                                                               6651

 1                 I will be voting in support of this 

 2    bill, and for the reasons you just heard 

 3    described that were part of the impetus for this 

 4    bill.  

 5                 And that is that we have seen 

 6    incredible uncertainly, we've seen very difficult 

 7    anecdotal incidences of folks being refused in 

 8    one coffee shop and accepted in another, which 

 9    can also lead to a confrontation.  

10                 We also have 60 million plastic 

11    water bottles used per day, per day -- 60 million 

12    plastic water bottles each day.  Many restaurants 

13    now have water dispensers set up, and they allow 

14    you to, once you've paid for your coffee, to 

15    dispense your own coffee.  

16                 So we are trying to encourage better 

17    practices, but we are also trying to address what 

18    has been some real uncertainty and variation 

19    among businesses, and have the Department of 

20    Health issue clear sanitation standards.  

21    Certainly we're trying to lead to better safety 

22    standards and not less.

23                 So thank you, and with that I vote 

24    in support of this bill.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 


                                                               6652

 1    Fahy to be recorded in the affirmative.

 2                 Senator Oberacker to explain his 

 3    vote.

 4                 SENATOR OBERACKER:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 You know, it's interesting, if I 

 7    were to ask any of my colleagues what exactly is 

 8    the standard set up by the Department of Health 

 9    for sanitation, does anybody know it off the top 

10    of their head?  How many PPMs are required of 

11    chlorine-based sanitizer to kill E. coli O157, 

12    salmonella, Campylobacter, or any other nasty 

13    little bugs out there?  

14                 Can anybody show me or can you see 

15    those nasty little bacteria and bugs that I just 

16    talked about on any surface whatsoever?  

17                 In fact, one of the things that's 

18    interesting, Madam President, we would do, in 

19    some of our seminars, we would actually have a 

20    powder that can only be seen through a 

21    black light, and we would only contaminate one 

22    page and send it around.  And you would be amazed 

23    at the end of this just where, when we 

24    black-light, where it has shown up.

25                 So again, I'm very, very concerned 


                                                               6653

 1    about the public health, the ability to introduce 

 2    into a restaurant and/or food service 

 3    establishment that has these practices in place.  

 4    And this could be a potential time bomb, in my 

 5    opinion, Madam President.

 6                 So with that, I would encourage all 

 7    of those -- all of my colleagues, some that maybe 

 8    don't have the microbiological background that I 

 9    have, to vote no.  

10                 So I appreciate that, and I will be 

11    voting no.  Thank you.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Oberacker to be recorded in the negative.

14                 Announce the results.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 979, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

18    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Martins, Mattera, 

19    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, 

20    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  Also 

21    Senator Lanza.  

22                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 Calendar 1456?


                                                               6654

 1                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Madam President, 

 2    let's now take up Calendar 1456.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 4    Secretary will read.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1456, Senate Print 4571B, by Senator Harckham, an 

 7    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Murray, why do you rise?

10                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  Would the sponsor yield for a 

12    few questions?

13                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   I will, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Oh, 

16    Senator Harckham, do you yield?  

17                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   I do.  

18                 And good evening, Senator Murray.

19                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Good evening.  

20    Thank you.  Through you, Madam President.  

21                 Senator Harckham, on this particular 

22    bill, what types of bodies of water would we be 

23    doing this in?  

24                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

25    Madam President, this would be -- Mr. President.  


                                                               6655

 1    You've changed.  Through you.  

 2                 This would be the manmade bodies 

 3    such as canals, industrial ponds, manmade 

 4    reservoirs.  Not -- not, for instance, a large 

 5    lake that happens to also serve as a water source 

 6    for someone.  Although there's no law that would 

 7    preclude that.  This is just for this particular 

 8    NYSERDA program that we're starting.  

 9                 But essentially it would be canals, 

10    manmade reservoirs, manmade lakes, and industrial 

11    ponds.  Those types of things, smaller.

12                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you.  

13                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

14    continue to yield?  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

16    sponsor yield? 

17                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    sponsor yields.  

20                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you.  

21    Through you, Mr. President.

22                 Are there any limitations as to the 

23    types of solar panels that can be used or, like, 

24    for example, foreign-made, American-made?  Any 

25    differentials?  


                                                               6656

 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President, no.  The bill is neutral to that.  

 3                 In the former Inflation Reduction 

 4    Act there were specific requirements for certain 

 5    American components, American assembly.  Congress 

 6    has since overturned those.  But this bill is 

 7    neutral on that.  This is just programming 

 8    another type of solar that other states and other 

 9    nations are beginning to use.

10                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Mr. President, 

11    would the sponsor continue to yield?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you.  

18    Through you, Mr. President.  

19                 So we've heard that some of the 

20    panels that are made in China have been known to 

21    contain PFAS.  Most of the panels or all of the 

22    panels that are constructed either here or there 

23    have rare earth minerals which could leach into 

24    the water.  

25                 Are there any plans to monitor the 


                                                               6657

 1    water?  And are there plans and/or funds included 

 2    in this bill for remediation if the water is 

 3    polluted?  

 4                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, I would politely push back on one 

 6    of the assertions my colleague made.  PFAS is not 

 7    a common element in solar panels or solar 

 8    construction.  Because silicone is used and they 

 9    have similar properties, many people may confuse 

10    that PFAS is used.  

11                 But I'll share two things with you.  

12    The top 10 companies who manufacture solar panels 

13    and make up more than 75 percent of the global 

14    market share have all signed letters attesting 

15    that they use zero PFAS in their components.  

16                 The other is an article I would 

17    point you to from my favorite publication, 

18    pv magazine.  It was the April edition, headline 

19    article:  "No evidence of PFAS leaching from 

20    solar panels, study finds."  It's a review of 

21    other peer-reviewed research.  

22                 So the PFAS issue is not a pressing 

23    issue.  

24                 Are there -- the second part of the 

25    question about monitoring the water, yes.  


                                                               6658

 1    Because one of the things that anecdotally has 

 2    been reported -- so for instance when I went to 

 3    Canoe Creek in New Jersey, which was -- American 

 4    Water Systems I believe is the name of the 

 5    company, they put a 17-acre solar array on their 

 6    reservoir.  They're powering 95 percent of the 

 7    water district's electricity use and I think it 

 8    was 1400 homes combined.  

 9                 And they found the added benefit -- 

10    they've been monitoring the water temperature, 

11    and because it absorbs and reflects the sun's 

12    light, it's keeping the water temperature lower 

13    and they believe helping retard the growth of 

14    blue-green algae, something that Senator May has 

15    done so much work on.

16                 So there is a provision in the bill 

17    to develop protocols to monitor water quality.

18                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.  On the bill.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

21    Murray on the bill.

22                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Harckham.  Appreciate the answers.  

24                 And I will not profess to be an 

25    expert on PFAS or solar panels.  I can only 


                                                               6659

 1    attest to what I have heard and read, and that is 

 2    concerns that PFAS does in fact exist.  

 3                 So the concern would be if there is 

 4    still a question, are we willing to take the risk 

 5    and take the chance?  

 6                 It's concerning, we've heard bills 

 7    in this body where we are so anxious to get to a 

 8    point under the CLCPA and move to these different 

 9    types of energy sources, we're willing to clear 

10    out trees to put more solar panels, put solar 

11    panels on water sources, including reservoirs.  

12                 We're so anxious to get there -- and 

13    I would suggest that maybe we hit the pause 

14    button here.  Again, if there's even a question 

15    that PFAS is emitted from these solar panels, we 

16    need to look into that.

17                 We do know that these rare-earth 

18    minerals are used in processing and manufacturing 

19    these panels.  So again, that concern is there 

20    for the safety, if you will, and the water 

21    quality.

22                 I'll end with this.  We've spent so 

23    much money, and in fact we passed, a couple of 

24    years ago, a $4.2 billion Environmental Bond Act 

25    fund, and most of that went towards cleaning or 


                                                               6660

 1    is going towards ensuring that we have clean 

 2    water.  But yet we're willing to take steps here 

 3    and possibly gamble on the water quality here.  

 4                 For that reason, I think we need to 

 5    slow down, hit the button.  For that reason, I'll 

 6    be voting no.  Thank you.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 8    you, Senator Murray.

 9                 Senator Walczyk, why do you rise? 

10                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

11    will the sponsor yield?  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.

17                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

18    Mr. President.  

19                 So this bill requires that the state 

20    hand out grants for floating solar projects.  

21    What pot of money are those grants coming out of?

22                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President.  Whatever pots of money NYSERDA 

24    currently uses to support solar development.  

25                 There will be no new assessments for 


                                                               6661

 1    this.  We the other day in the budget passed 

 2    200 million for NY-Sun.  Because these are 

 3    community-scale projects and smaller, it could 

 4    come out of NY-Sun.

 5                 This is just a adder program to 

 6    provide education, technical assistance, and a 

 7    little bit of money to help encourage these types 

 8    of projects.

 9                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

11    yield?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield? 

14                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Yeah, just trying 

18    to get clarification.  Does it direct that it 

19    comes out of NY-Sun or some kind of other program 

20    funded by taxpayers?  Or could NYSERDA also fund 

21    this with ratepayer money?  

22                 (Pause.)

23                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President.  There are a couple of answers to 

25    that question.  


                                                               6662

 1                 Because a lot of NYSERDA's programs 

 2    are off-book, they're off the state budget for 

 3    some of the surcharges, funding could come from 

 4    that.  However, the NY-Sun program, which we 

 5    outlined in the budget, is on-book.  So there 

 6    could be some off-book, some on-book.

 7                 I would -- I would point out I would 

 8    expect the expenditures would be very low on 

 9    this.  There are very few in the country.  

10    There's one in Cohoes being built right now.  

11    There's the one in Short Hills, New Jersey, that 

12    I referred to.  They're building another one in 

13    New Jersey.  There are a few on the West Coast.  

14                 But this is much more done in Europe 

15    and Asia, so this is really about learning the 

16    marketplace here and developing a skill set of 

17    American developers to be able to do this.

18                 So I would not expect a large 

19    expenditure.

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

22    yield?  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.


                                                               6663

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   How does this 

 4    bill define "floating solar"?  

 5                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   All right.  

 6    Through you, Mr. President.  

 7                 To use the exact words from the 

 8    bill, the term "floating solar" shall mean solar 

 9    voltaic systems mounted on floating structures or 

10    platforms on the surface of a body of water, 

11    including but not limited to canals, lakes, 

12    reservoirs, and ponds.

13                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

14    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

15    yield?

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

17    sponsor yield? 

18                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

20    sponsor yields.

21                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President.  I was listening to the debate 

23    prior to this.  I thought you said floating solar 

24    wasn't for lakes, but your definition included 

25    lakes.  


                                                               6664

 1                 Is that just a technical error in 

 2    the draft?  

 3                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   No, it should -- 

 4    it's manmade lakes.  Let me see where we later 

 5    say -- through you, Mr. President, that's the 

 6    definition of floating and solar.

 7                 The grant program that this bill 

 8    creates:  Canals, reservoirs, commercial and 

 9    industrial ponds, and any other artificially 

10    created body of water suitable for siting 

11    floating solar.

12                 So the definition is like, hey, what 

13    is floating solar.  But for the purposes of this 

14    grant program, this is what it's limited to.

15                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

16    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

17    yield?

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

19    sponsor yield?

20                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22    sponsor yields.  

23                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   All right, so I 

24    think I understand.  

25                 So definitionally, "floating solar" 


                                                               6665

 1    includes solar that is installed on lakes in 

 2    New York State and also reservoirs, canals, the 

 3    other things, but only the canals and the 

 4    reservoirs will be eligible for the -- either 

 5    taxpayer money or ratepayer money in this grant 

 6    program.  Am I understanding that correctly?

 7                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President, that's correct.  

 9                 But right now there is nothing 

10    stopping a solar company, if they wanted to, or 

11    a -- you know, a wealthy entrepreneur from 

12    picking some big lake and trying to build a 

13    floating solar array there.  I mean, they'd have 

14    to go through local permitting and they'd have to 

15    go through DEC and all that stuff, but there's 

16    nothing in law that would prohibit that.

17                 All this -- all this bill is doing 

18    is creating a program for a much smaller body and 

19    limited body -- number of bodies of water, 

20    creating an education and technical assistance 

21    and a grant program for those.  

22                 But if somebody wanted to go ahead 

23    and do something like that right now, you know, 

24    there's -- they'd have a lot of challenges, but 

25    there's nothing in law that would prohibit that.


                                                               6666

 1                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 3    yield?

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President.  

11                 But since we're talking about power 

12    generation here, would this apply under the 

13    Office of Renewable Energy Siting if they met the 

14    threshold of megawatts required there?

15                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

16    Mr. President.  Right now the largest one in the 

17    country is less than half the size of what would 

18    qualify for ORES.  

19                 ORES begins -- and for those who 

20    don't know the acronym, Office of Renewal Energy 

21    Siting -- it's about 20 megawatts.  And the 

22    largest one in the country is I think about 8.9.  

23                 So these would all have local 

24    planning, local zoning, like the one that was 

25    done in New Jersey, they had to go through their 


                                                               6667

 1    planning board, their zoning board of appeals -- 

 2    you know, whatever special permits they needed.  

 3    All locally controlled, as was Cohoes.

 4                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   And through you, 

 5    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 6    yield?

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 8    sponsor yield?

 9                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11    sponsor yields.

12                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

13    Mr. President.  So the -- reservoirs are manmade.  

14    They would be eligible for the grant money for 

15    floating solar here.

16                 Is there any prohibition on 

17    reservoirs within the Catskills or the 

18    Adirondacks?

19                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   If they are 

20    manmade, I suppose they would -- they could be 

21    eligible.  However, the reservoirs in the 

22    Catskills and the ones by me, I've approached 

23    New York City DEP.  They are studying them, so 

24    they may or may not be open to them.

25                 But those are much larger water 


                                                               6668

 1    bodies.  So for instance, the one in New Jersey, 

 2    the one in Cohoes are really very small water 

 3    bodies.  They're small little local water 

 4    districts.  It's much easier for the 

 5    installation.  It's much easier for the 

 6    management and the maintenance.  

 7                 Companies don't want like a big 

 8    expanse of water body.  It's too hard for them.  

 9    So I don't suspect we would see that, certainly 

10    not anytime soon.  The technical expertise is 

11    just not in this country.  

12                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

13    would the sponsor yield?

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

20    Mr. President.  What's the maximum size or 

21    megawatt threshold that's allowed in this bill 

22    for a floating solar project?

23                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President.  It is not specified.  We do not 

25    specify a threshold.


                                                               6669

 1                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 3    yield?  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   So being any 

10    size, while we may speculate about what the 

11    industry may prefer or not prefer, I'm certainly 

12    surprised by the amount of land mass that the 

13    industry has taken up.  I didn't think when we 

14    started this solar experiment in New York State 

15    that I would drive across my district and see 

16    farmland completely paved over, sometimes to the 

17    tune of thousands of connected acres.  

18                 But I do want to ask -- so just a 

19    clarification.  So the Ashokan Reservoir in the 

20    Catskills, that would be eligible for grants for 

21    floating solar?

22                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President.  Not if New York City DEP has no 

24    interest in it.  It's their reservoir.  

25                 So just like you or I couldn't do a 


                                                               6670

 1    development there without their permission, which 

 2    is not going to happen, if they don't want to do 

 3    it, it's not going to happen, end of story.  

 4                 Nothing in this legislation 

 5    overrides that local zoning or local control.  

 6    And there's nothing in here that says a local 

 7    municipality couldn't pass a zoning code saying, 

 8    you know, Lake Smith, we don't want floating 

 9    solar here.  

10                 There's nothing that would prevent a 

11    municipality -- and if I could comment on one 

12    thing, Senator -- through you, Mr. President -- 

13    the Senator spoke of the amount of farmland that 

14    has been lost to solar.  That is precisely why we 

15    are advancing this bill for floating solar, to 

16    take the pressure off of farmland.  

17                 So these are water bodies that are 

18    not used for recreation because they're 

19    reservoirs or they have industrial use.  It's 

20    exactly why we're doing this, is to take the 

21    pressure off of farmland and open space.

22                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President, would the sponsor yield?

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               6671

 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.

 4                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   I didn't see the 

 5    prohibition on using a reservoir that's also used 

 6    recreationally.  Where would I find that in your 

 7    bill?

 8                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President.  I suppose there is no 

10    prohibition.  

11                 But many reservoirs do not allow 

12    recreation other than passive fishing.  You know, 

13    there's not rampant boating on manmade reservoirs 

14    and manmade lakes to that degree.

15                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

16    would the sponsor yield?

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield?  

19                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.  

22                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President.  Have you ever heard of the 

24    Sacandaga Lake?  

25                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 


                                                               6672

 1    Mr. President, I have.

 2                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Mr. President, 

 3    would the sponsor continue to yield?

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President, I would also add, though, that if 

 8    the community around that lake does not want a 

 9    project like this, it is well within their right 

10    to deny it.  

11                 There is no state override in this 

12    bill.  Nothing in this bill overrides local 

13    authority.  So if the communities around that 

14    lake want to pass a law, or a developer comes to 

15    them with a plan, they can simply say no.  They 

16    have that control.  Nothing in this bill, 

17    Mr. President, overrides local control.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

19    you, Senator Harckham.  

20                 Senator Walczyk had asked that you 

21    yield.  Senator Harckham, do you yield?  

22                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   I do.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    sponsor yields.

25                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you.  


                                                               6673

 1    Through you, Mr. President.

 2                 Does this bill prescribe the 

 3    materials on which the panels need to float?

 4                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, no, it does not.

 6                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 8    yield?  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   So buoyancy is 

15    achieved in floating solar by packaging air or 

16    some kind of gas, using plastic packaging around 

17    that air or gas in order to create that buoyancy.  

18                 Is there any kind of prohibition on 

19    the packaging in plastic of that air or gas to 

20    achieve that buoyancy for floating solar?

21                 (Pause.)

22                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President.  The legislation specifically says 

24    that the program, when it's being developed, will 

25    identify best practices.  


                                                               6674

 1                 And so if the best practices are not 

 2    to use certain materials, based on study from 

 3    other states and other countries, then those 

 4    materials will not be used, based on the rules 

 5    promulgated by NYSERDA.

 6                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 8    yield?

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield? 

11                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Through you, 

15    Mr. President.  

16                 But we are talking about manmade 

17    reservoirs, sometimes drinking water sources.  

18    This body has talked a lot of times about 

19    microplastics.  Some have even said we need to 

20    get beyond plastics and ban all kinds of 

21    packaging in the State of New York.  

22                 But does this floating solar bill 

23    protect our water from plastic floating devices, 

24    or will they be able to float on plastic buoys 

25    the way that you've written this legislation?  


                                                               6675

 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President.  I agree, the Senator's point is 

 3    well-taken.  

 4                 We've done a lot in this body on the 

 5    types of plastics that can be used in docks.  I 

 6    think you, Senator, had a good bill, Senator May 

 7    has had a good bill.  So we continue to do work 

 8    on that.  And it's up to the people who 

 9    promulgate the rules to come up with best 

10    practices and best technology.

11                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you.

12                 Mr. President, on the bill.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Walczyk on the bill.

15                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   So just a point 

16    of clarification and kind of to round up some of 

17    the discussion, because I learned some things in 

18    this debate today.

19                 There is no prohibition for the size 

20    of these things.  We do have -- I represent the 

21    Stillwater Reservoir in the Adirondacks.  I also 

22    represent the Great Sacandaga Lake, which is a 

23    manmade reservoir in the Adirondacks.  They would 

24    be eligible for grant programming for solar with 

25    no prohibition on the size.  


                                                               6676

 1                 So if the target was to have 

 2    smaller-scale and more localized areas just under 

 3    zoning, then the legislation before us should 

 4    have been written that way.  It isn't.  It's 

 5    currently written with no cap on the size that 

 6    these can be.  

 7                 I've seen some doozies across my 

 8    desk here in the Legislature.  You know, we've 

 9    seen gigawatts of batteries spread across 

10    New York State, solar spread all over the place, 

11    solar proposed on state reforestation areas, and 

12    now floating solar.  And, as the sponsor put it, 

13    to take some of the pain off of the ag land.  

14    Well, that doesn't sound like it's going to be 

15    very small to me.  

16                 People are already very concerned 

17    with how much solar has taken up agriculture 

18    land.  And I think the last thing they want to 

19    see are solar panels where they're fishing and 

20    boating and swimming and recreating and 

21    reservoirs where they're drinking the water from, 

22    with questionable chemicals on the solar panels, 

23    and they're probably floating on plastic buoys  

24    in possibly your drinking water source.

25                 But more than that, this bill is 


                                                               6677

 1    also either funded by the taxpayers or funded by 

 2    the ratepayers.  It's unclear from debate who's 

 3    going to pay for it.  But it will be New Yorkers 

 4    paying for a new grant program to put solar 

 5    panels on our waterways.  That's a doozy.  

 6                 You cannot save the planet by 

 7    destroying the environment.  I hope you all vote 

 8    no.

 9                 Thank you, Mr. President.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

11    you, Senator Walczyk.  

12                 Senator Helming, why do you rise?

13                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.  If the sponsor will yield for a 

15    couple of questions.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

17    sponsor yield?  

18                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President, yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.  

22                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Harckham.  

24                 I'm looking for a clarification.  

25    Are these floating solar arrays -- under this 


                                                               6678

 1    legislation, are they allowed to be built on the 

 2    Finger Lakes?  Can they be built on the 

 3    Finger Lakes?

 4                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, no.  The Finger Lakes are not 

 6    manmade lakes.

 7                 SENATOR HELMING:   So is -- and I 

 8    get --

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    Helming --

11                 SENATOR HELMING:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

13    yield.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR HELMING:   So you're saying 

20    that in the legislation itself -- can you read 

21    the definition for me again?

22                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yeah, there's a 

23    difference between a -- the definition of 

24    floating solar and what the grant program is for.  

25                 The grant program, Senator -- 


                                                               6679

 1    through you, Mr. President -- all right, here we 

 2    go -- would be grants for the development of 

 3    floating solar on sites that are constructed on 

 4    canals, reservoirs, commercial and industrial 

 5    ponds and any other artificially created body of 

 6    water.

 7                 So it's a very precise definition.  

 8    The Finger Lakes would not fall into that, nor 

 9    would the Great Lakes.

10                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.  On the bill.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

13    Helming on the bill.

14                 SENATOR HELMING:   So just to 

15    clarify, what Senator Harckham just read was 

16    about the grant program.  It's not about the 

17    definition that's actually in the bill.  So it is 

18    very possible that this bill applies to our 

19    Finger Lakes.

20                 And I wanted to point out a couple 

21    of things.  The Senator also mentioned that 

22    there's nothing that overrides local control in 

23    the legislation that's before us.  And I beg to 

24    differ with that, having spent many years as the 

25    chair of a zoning board of appeals, spent many 


                                                               6680

 1    years on a planning board.  

 2                 Generally speaking, local planning 

 3    and zoning boards do not have direct regulatory 

 4    authority over a lake itself.  Sure, they can 

 5    look at things like shoreline setbacks, building 

 6    locations, lot coverage, stormwater management, 

 7    docks and accessory structures, but they don't 

 8    have say or standing over what happens on a lake, 

 9    a canal.  So just to clarify that.  

10                 And also, on something that was said 

11    about PFAS, that there have been no confirmations 

12    that solar panels contain PFAS.  That -- the 

13    question isn't do solar panels contain PFAS.  

14    They do.  Studies have identified PFAS containing 

15    fluoropolymers in solar panel components.  

16                 The question is, how much of these 

17    forever chemicals are being leached into our 

18    soils and now are being pushed into our 

19    waterways?  

20                 I just -- I find it appalling that 

21    we're going to now encourage people to build 

22    solar arrays that could really contaminate our 

23    drinking water sources, our source of economic 

24    development, recreational opportunities, and so 

25    much more, with these solar panels.  


                                                               6681

 1                 These are just some of the reasons 

 2    why I am a hard no on this bill, Mr. President.

 3                 Thank you.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator Helming.

 6                 Senator Chan, why do you rise?

 7                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.  I was hoping the sponsor would 

 9    yield to a couple of questions.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   

11    Certainly.  Senator Harckham, do you yield?  

12                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Certainly.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, Senator.  

16    Through you, Mr. President.

17                 Senator, is there a limit to what 

18    percentage of a specific lake can be covered by 

19    these solar panels?

20                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President, no.

22                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you.  

23                 Mr. President, if the sponsor can 

24    continue to yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 


                                                               6682

 1    sponsor yield?

 2                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.  

 5                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you.

 6                 So in essence, Senator, a lake can 

 7    be 100 percent covered by these solar panels?

 8                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, that is highly unlikely.

10                 SENATOR CHAN:   (Chuckle of 

11    disbelief.)  Will the sponsor continue to yield?  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?  

14                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR CHAN:   Highly unlikely but 

18    not impossible, am I correct?

19                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

20    Mr. President.  Nothing is impossible, I suppose.

21                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you.  

22                 Mr. President, if the sponsor would 

23    continue to yield.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               6683

 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.  

 4                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, Senator.  

 5    Through you, Mr. President.  

 6                 Has there been any studies to study 

 7    the effect the solar panels have on the 

 8    temperature of the lake?  

 9                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President.  Yes, there have.

11                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, Senator.

12                 On the bill, Mr. President.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Chan on the bill.

15                 SENATOR CHAN:   Okay, so, you know, 

16    in light of hearing the questions that has came 

17    and went, and it's just -- this is just a -- so 

18    why build a lake if you're going to cover it 

19    entirely with solar panels and there's no 

20    limitations as to -- so, I mean, I see it now, 

21    just people digging lakes just for the sake of 

22    covering it with a solar panel.  

23                 And I can see also boats hitting it, 

24    I can see the safety factors involved.  I can see 

25    people having a barbecue on these solar panels, 


                                                               6684

 1    kids using it as a swimming platform to dive off 

 2    of them.  

 3                 I'm going to have to vote no on this 

 4    bill.  Thank you.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator Chan.

 7                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 8    to be heard?

 9                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

10    closed.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

13    believe we've agreed to restore this bill to the 

14    noncontroversial calendar.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

16    consent, the bill is restored to the 

17    noncontroversial calendar.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 


                                                               6685

 1    May to explain her vote.

 2                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 3    Mr. President.

 4                 I would like to thank 

 5    Senator Harckham for this bill.  

 6                 And I have to confess I'm a little 

 7    startled at just how much antipathy there is to 

 8    this technology.  As our atmosphere warms, our 

 9    water bodies are warming too.  And it is wiping 

10    out trout fisheries in a lot of our water bodies 

11    in New York State because they require cold water 

12    to reproduce.

13                 And so if there is a technology that 

14    can generate energy and also cool the water, that 

15    seems like a win/win and one that we should at 

16    least explore, if not actually support, as this 

17    bill would do.

18                 So I don't -- you know, different 

19    municipalities and lake associations will have to 

20    weigh in on these.  But to just rule it out 

21    altogether seems like a big mistake.  And that 

22    there is potential for this to really benefit 

23    local populations where they have -- if they're 

24    taking drinking water out right now, they're 

25    having to put their intake pipes farther and 


                                                               6686

 1    farther out at a cost of millions of dollars.  

 2    This might make it easier to get access to 

 3    drinking water that would be, you know, at the 

 4    right temperature.

 5                 So I actually think we should 

 6    explore this technology, and I applaud 

 7    Senator Harckham for bringing this bill forward.  

 8                 I vote aye.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    May to be recorded in the affirmative.  

11                 Senator Borrello to explain his 

12    vote.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Solar sprawl 

14    continues, and that's what this is really all 

15    about.  You know, that's the thing about these 

16    solar companies.  They're con artists who are 

17    kings of the bait-and-switch.  

18                 So I believe that maybe 

19    Senator Harckham believes these things will not 

20    expand to other bodies of water.  They will.  

21    Because it actually says in there, it says 

22    "Including but not limited to," and they will 

23    exploit that.  They will exploit that to gobble 

24    up the subsidies the grant money and everything 

25    else.  


                                                               6687

 1                 Every time we have a solar project 

 2    in my district, like I said before, they agreed 

 3    to a certain setback and then they grieve it and 

 4    say no, I can't take it, we've got to be a 

 5    hundred feet from the road, not 500 feet from the 

 6    road.  

 7                 You don't think they're going to do 

 8    the same thing with the bodies of water?  You 

 9    don't think they're going to cover an entire lake 

10    if they could?  You don't think the -- you think 

11    they actually care whether or not PFAS will go 

12    into drinking water?  They do not.  It's about 

13    profit, profit at the expense of the taxpayers.  

14    That's what this has always been about.  

15                 We've watched solar panels gobble up 

16    farmland.  Our beautiful landscape across upstate 

17    New York is being destroyed by these con artists, 

18    and now they want to take the water too.  

19                 I'll be voting no.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

21    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.  

22                 Senator Murray to explain his vote.

23                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

24    Mr. President.  Now we've heard back-and-forth 

25    about, you know, do we have these chemicals, do 


                                                               6688

 1    we have these forever chemicals, PFAS and others 

 2    in it or not.  

 3                 If there's even a question, then why 

 4    are we moving forward with this?  I've got homes 

 5    in my district being taken off well water because 

 6    they found PFAS in the water because of 

 7    firefighting foam from before where they did 

 8    training centers.  But we're finding it more and 

 9    more.  

10                 We've taken steps here to ban 

11    products that are manufactured containing PFAS.  

12    But now we're considering putting it -- these 

13    solar panels, which again, some say yes, some say 

14    no.  If there's even a question, I don't think we 

15    should move forward with it.  

16                 Because in addition to leaching into 

17    the water -- now I've got the Yaphank Lakes, 

18    upper and lower, I've got Canaan Lake.  These are 

19    all manmade lakes in my district that they do 

20    fishing, recreation, things like this.  If we're 

21    going to allow this to leak into there and get 

22    into not just drinking water, but the effect on 

23    the environment, on wildlife -- there's too many 

24    question marks here.

25                 I want to add one thing.  In the 


                                                               6689

 1    Yaphank Lakes, a couple of years ago, there was 

 2    a -- one of the residents did a wonderful exhibit 

 3    for Christmas, and it was all lit up and he put 

 4    it on his own little floating dock, put it out in 

 5    the water.  DEC came and shut him down.  Why?  

 6    Because he ran electric to it.  

 7                 Now, I'm no scientist, but we're 

 8    putting solar panels out there to generate 

 9    energy.  How are we getting it back?  Just a 

10    thought.  

11                 Anyway, I'll be voting no.  

12                 Thank you.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Murray to be recorded in the negative.

15                 Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

16                 SENATOR LANZA:   To explain my vote.  

17                 So I love to fish.  I often go to 

18    Sullivan County and do that.  And if we're 

19    worried about the fish, well, you don't have to 

20    worry any longer, because if you put a lid on top 

21    of a lake, they're going to die.  

22                 You know, if you prevent sun from 

23    getting into the water, the plants are going to 

24    die.  The fish are going to die.  You're going to 

25    end up with a dead and toxic lake.  That's what 


                                                               6690

 1    you're going to end up with.  And as my colleague 

 2    just said, electricity and water don't mix.  

 3                 This one is -- as I've heard, this 

 4    is a doozy.  I mean, where I recreate in 

 5    Sullivan County, if you throw a beach ball into a 

 6    pond, DEC is on you like immediately.  There's 

 7    not much you can do.  

 8                 We hear all the time about 

 9    protecting wetlands.  Lakes and ponds are wet.  

10    They are the epitome of wetlands.  And this bill 

11    would allow -- and I agree with what I've heard.  

12    If you're going to pay people -- I understand, 

13    I've heard, Well, it doesn't have to happen.  

14    It's not impossible.  It's unlikely.  

15                 If you're going to pay people to do 

16    things, the unlikely and the implausible become a 

17    guarantee.  I mean, it's human nature.  If I can 

18    make a lot of money by putting a deck and sealing 

19    off a lake, I'm going to do it.  That's the way 

20    it works.  

21                 Well-intended; we need to explore 

22    various technologies.  But to destroy lakes in 

23    the process -- and that's what this will do, make 

24    no mistake about it.  The fish will die.  

25    Everything under that canopy, that seal will die.  


                                                               6691

 1                 I vote no.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 3    Lanza to be recorded in the negative.

 4                 Senator Weik to explain her vote.

 5                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.  

 7                 I thought we were going to reduce 

 8    plastics.  Now we're going to take plastic and 

 9    gas and we're going to wrap a solar panel in it, 

10    float it on our water.  

11                 What about the reflection into our 

12    atmosphere?  I haven't heard any discussion about 

13    that, and that's a big issue.  So besides 

14    reflection and -- how much heat are these going 

15    to be generating?  Anytime you float something 

16    that's going to be reflective on water, you're 

17    generating heat, you're going to be heating the 

18    water, you're going to be drying water in times 

19    of drought.  And this just seems like the most 

20    ridiculous idea.  

21                 I'm a no.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

23    Weik to be recorded in the negative.  

24                 Senator Oberacker to explain his 

25    vote.


                                                               6692

 1                 SENATOR OBERACKER:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.

 3                 You know, in my district I've got a 

 4    number of manmade reservoirs.  I have the 

 5    Ashokan, Neversink, Pepacton and Gilboa, just to 

 6    name a few, to which this potential legislation 

 7    could impact.  

 8                 You know, a lot of my district is in 

 9    the Delaware Watershed.  And it's amazing when I 

10    see the restrictions that are put on my farmers 

11    for fear of what they will do to the water.  And 

12    yet here we are talking about putting solar 

13    panels on lakes and so on, which is concerning, 

14    of course, to me.  

15                 And, you know, I think about when we 

16    had the acid rain and everyone was so concerned 

17    about the water quality.  I think right here 

18    we're actually kind of - excuse the expression, 

19    Mr. President -- making a deal with the devil.  

20                 And I don't think this is one of our 

21    better ideas to come out of this chamber, I will 

22    be a strong, hard no.  Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Oberacker to be recorded in the negative.

25                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to 


                                                               6693

 1    explain her vote.

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 3    Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                 I have in my district Long Beach, 

 5    and one of the projects that was supposed to have 

 6    offshore wind would have created high-voltage 

 7    cables that went through our beach underground to 

 8    reach the -- make sure that the energy that was 

 9    being produced on the water reached a transfer 

10    station.

11                 And I can't help but think that each 

12    one of these lakes is going to have to have some 

13    sort of mini version of that, with cables that 

14    are going to go underground, possibly under the 

15    lake, to reach some sort of collection station, a 

16    battery storage station, somewhere that this 

17    energy will be collected.  And those high-voltage 

18    cables have consequences as well.

19                 So in addition to the things that 

20    I've heard from my colleagues today about what's 

21    going to actually be floating potentially in our 

22    water, our drinking water, I have a lot of 

23    concerns.  

24                 For those reasons, Mr. President, 

25    I'm going to be voting in the negative.


                                                               6694

 1                 Thank you.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 3    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be recorded in the 

 4    negative.

 5                 Senator Stec to explain his vote.

 6                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  To explain my vote.

 8                 You know, I've seen a lot of bills 

 9    promoting solar in the last couple of years, and 

10    we've been sacrificing good farmland, we've 

11    sacrificed protected wildlife habitat, 

12    forestland -- and that's not enough.  In this 

13    bill we need to start looking at lakes and ponds 

14    and reservoirs and recreational areas.  

15                 The mental gymnastics to fit the 

16    square peg in the round hole of the energy policy 

17    coming out of a bunch of non-engineers in this 

18    building is astounding to me.  This is literally 

19    one of the wackiest bills that I've seen.  

20                 And I'll be voting no, and I think 

21    everyone should.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

23    Stec to be recorded in the negative.

24                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

25    to explain their vote?


                                                               6695

 1                 Seeing and hearing none, 

 2    Senator Harckham to close.

 3                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

 4    much, Mr. President.

 5                 You know, years ago one of my 

 6    mentors said to me:  Contempt prior to 

 7    investigation is ignorance.  

 8                 I would invite colleagues to go to 

 9    the Canoe Brook facility in Short Hills, 

10    New Jersey, where the water utility ratepayers 

11    are saving money, the homeowners surrounding the 

12    district are saving money.  

13                 I would invite members to go to 

14    Cohoes Reservoir, where the city will be saving 

15    hundreds of thousands of dollars on their own 

16    utility bills, the local utility ratepayers will 

17    be saving hundreds of thousands of dollars 

18    annually on their utility bills.

19                 I think the phrase used was "a 

20    doozy."  Yes, it's a doozy to save money.  I 

21    don't understand the religion that has now 

22    cropped up against people saving money.  We're 

23    talking about an affordability crisis.  There's a 

24    technology that is lower in cost to produce 

25    energy than the other forms out there -- i.e., 


                                                               6696

 1    nuclear and natural gas.  And yet any time solar 

 2    rears its ugly head, let's make up a whole host 

 3    of reasons not to support it.

 4                  This will lower costs.  This 

 5    prevents the loss of farmland.  This is something 

 6    that is used in other parts of the country.  It's 

 7    now working its way to the Northeast.  It's used 

 8    in Europe and Asia.  

 9                 This is an idea whose time has come.  

10    I'm proud to vote aye.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

12    Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1456, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

17    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

18    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

19    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

20                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

25    let's move on to -- oh, I'm sorry, I have a 


                                                               6697

 1    motion that I have to do first.  

 2                 On behalf of Senator Baskin, on 

 3    page 24 I offer the follow amendments to 

 4    Calendar 928, Senate Print 9126A, and ask that 

 5    said bill retain its place on Third Reading 

 6    Calendar.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 9    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

10                 Senator Gianaris.  

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now let's go to 

12    Calendar 1478, please.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Weik, why do you rise?

15                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.  I was wondering if the sponsor -- 

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   I'm 

18    sorry.  I'm sorry, Senator.  

19                 The Secretary will ring the bell.  

20                 The Secretary will read.  

21                 I apologize, Senator Weik.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1478, Senate Print 8455B, by Senator Fahy, an act 

24    to amend the Penal Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 


                                                               6698

 1    Weik, why do you rise?

 2                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 3    Mr. President.  I was wondering if the sponsor 

 4    would yield for a plethora of questions.  

 5                 (Laughter.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 7    sponsor yield for a -- she's being honest -- a 

 8    plethora of questions.  

 9                 Senator Fahy, do you yield?  

10                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes, thank you.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes, certainly.

14                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  Please 

15    excuse my back, I'm sorry.  

16                 Through you, Mr. President.  Would 

17    the sponsor yield for the first question?  I'm 

18    sorry.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Yes, 

20    she's yielded the floor, Senator Weik.

21                 SENATOR WEIK:   Got it.  

22                 This bill prohibits a person from 

23    selling or giving a flare gun to a person under 

24    the age of 17.  Is that correct?  

25                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes.


                                                               6699

 1                 SENATOR WEIK:   Under -- through 

 2    you, Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 3    yield?  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.  

 9                 SENATOR WEIK:   What is the purpose 

10    of a flare gun, and how are they generally used?

11                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President.  Flare guns are generally 

13    considered to have only one purpose, and that is 

14    for emergency signaling, often used on boats or 

15    in maritime use.  

16                 Although even the Coast Guard has 

17    now changed to electric flares, not the 

18    traditional flare guns that we are addressing 

19    here today that unfortunately, they have gone -- 

20    although they are intended for one purpose, they 

21    have really gone well beyond that and we have had 

22    numerous incidences, particularly here in 

23    Albany County, but a number of them around the 

24    state with criminal uses of those flare guns, 

25    which I'm happy to describe.


                                                               6700

 1                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

 2                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

 3    continue to yield?  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield? 

 6                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR WEIK:   Would this be 

10    limited to merchants selling a flare gun?  Or 

11    could an individual give a minor under the age of 

12    17 a flare gun -- would that person be criminally 

13    liable?

14                 SENATOR FAHY:   It is intended to be 

15    the sale and the -- the sale or the transfer.  So 

16    yes, that person in this instance that you are 

17    referring to, would be liable.

18                 SENATOR WEIK:   Would the sponsor 

19    continue to yield.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

21    sponsor yield? 

22                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    sponsor yields.

25                 SENATOR WEIK:   So it would be 


                                                               6701

 1    illegal for a parent to buy a flare gun for their 

 2    child under the age of 17 and give it to them?

 3                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 4    Mr. President.  As I understand this, if the 

 5    parent buys a flare gun for use on a boat -- 

 6    which, again, is often where they are, what 

 7    they're bought for -- and the parent is on the 

 8    boat with the child or if the child is out and 

 9    there is an emergency situation, that would not 

10    be considered illegal because certainly that is 

11    in an emergency.  

12                 And we have addressed that in the 

13    legislation.

14                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

15                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

16    continue to yield.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield? 

19                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR WEIK:   So flare guns are 

23    often used by boaters in open water.  We 

24    established that.  

25                 We also have safe boating courses in 


                                                               6702

 1    which a lot of our young teenagers under the age 

 2    of 17 are out and about on their own legally.  

 3    And so if they were to use this flare gun, would 

 4    the parent then be held criminally liable?  

 5                 (Pause.)

 6                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President.  I want to understand the 

 8    question.  

 9                 Again, if there's an emergency 

10    situation, the parent has -- as they're expected 

11    to do, has bought a flare gun for use on the 

12    vessel, and it's the child that ends up using it, 

13    it's under the supervision of the parent.  

14                 So that would not be -- that would 

15    not be illegal, if I'm understanding your 

16    question.

17                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

18                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

19    continue to yield?

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

21    sponsor yield?

22                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

24    sponsor yields.  

25                 SENATOR WEIK:   Would you mind 


                                                               6703

 1    terribly reading that part of the bill where it 

 2    does not hold the parent criminally liable?  

 3                 (Pause.)

 4                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, can you clarify, is your question 

 6    about the parent supervising the use?  Can you 

 7    get at the actual question of the --

 8                 SENATOR WEIK:   Sure.  

 9    Mr. President, would the --

10                 SENATOR FAHY:   You know, what -- 

11    what scenario you're envisioning here?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

13    Weik, if you don't mind restating the question.

14                 SENATOR WEIK:   Sure, no problem.  

15                 So if the individual is under the 

16    age of 17 and is out on a boat and is in an 

17    emergency and uses that flare gun, where in your 

18    bill does it say that the parent is not 

19    criminally liable?

20                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  First of all, in that instance 

22    the parent has not given the child -- it is 

23    something that is being used in an emergency 

24    situation.  There is not a transfer or a sale.  

25                 And then I should also add that, you 


                                                               6704

 1    know, somebody under 17 may also be 

 2    participating -- there is an exemption when 

 3    somebody under 17 has participated in a 

 4    supervised training program through parks, 

 5    through recreation and other matters.  So that is 

 6    also an exception.

 7                 SENATOR WEIK:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 9    yield.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

11    sponsor yield?

12                 SENATOR FAHY:   Sure.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.  

15                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

16                 So in 2020 my 15-year-old took our 

17    21-foot-boat out.  And if he were to have met up 

18    with some kind of dangerous situation -- during 

19    the day, you can't see a flashlight.  You're 

20    certainly not going to see a parachute flare on 

21    the Great South Bay.  So a flare gun would have 

22    been on our boat.  It would have been a safety 

23    device.

24                 If my son had used a flare gun, in 

25    that case would I have been held criminally 


                                                               6705

 1    liable?  Can you read the part of your bill that 

 2    says that this young man who had his safe boating 

 3    course and was legally allowed to be out on the 

 4    boat and he shot off that flare gun because of an 

 5    emergency, where I, the parent, would not be held 

 6    criminally liable?

 7                 (Pause.)

 8                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President.  Again, the language reads that it 

10    is where a flare gun is sold or offered for sale 

11    or given to a person under the age of 17.  

12                 In this case, again, what -- if I 

13    understand the scenario you are referring to, a 

14    young person is on a boat and uses that -- may 

15    use that flare gun in an emergency situation, 

16    that is -- that does not encounter sale or giving 

17    the flare gun.  It is there as it's legally 

18    required to be.  

19                 And I should add part of this, 

20    again, is to really get at illegal, unintended 

21    consequences.  There is -- as I mentioned 

22    earlier, flare guns are designed for one purpose, 

23    emergency signaling, which we referred to at the 

24    beginning of this.  

25                 This is about incidences where they 


                                                               6706

 1    are now being used in criminal activities where 

 2    we saw -- we've seen a number of incidences in -- 

 3    across the state, but we had 13 separate 

 4    incidences between July 2024 and July 2025.  

 5                 And we have also seen where they 

 6    have been modified, the flare guns have been 

 7    modified for discharge with live ammunition.  So 

 8    that is -- none of that is what is being 

 9    described or requested -- or questioned here.

10                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

11                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

12    continue to yield?  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

14    sponsor yield? 

15                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   the 

17    sponsor yields.

18                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

19                 So in that same scenario where I'm 

20    sending my 15-year-old son out on a boat and I 

21    know the waterways he's going to be navigating, 

22    through some canals to get out to the Great South 

23    Bay -- and I know very well no one will be able 

24    to see him, so I give him the flare so that he 

25    has safety equipment on the boat besides the 


                                                               6707

 1    flashlight and the parachute flare and so on.  

 2                 Am I now criminally liable, as the 

 3    parent?

 4                 SENATOR FAHY:   Again, my -- through 

 5    you, Mr. President.  My understanding of flare 

 6    gun requirements, they are supposed -- as part of 

 7    maritime laws, they are required to be on the 

 8    vessel.  

 9                 So you instructing your son that the 

10    flare gun is there, just as you would point out 

11    that a flashlight is there, or just as you would 

12    point out the -- a number of any emergency uses 

13    or emergency equipment, just -- it's the same as 

14    the life vest.  

15                 That would not be -- that is not the 

16    intent.  This is about the sale or the giving of 

17    a flare gun for use in, you know, in another 

18    matter.  

19                 And as we said, certainly 

20    participating in trained program and other 

21    matters, we have had -- this is really intended 

22    about -- this is really intended to crack down on 

23    what we have seen is a horrific misuse.  

24                 I should also add Albany County, 

25    after the number of incidences here in Albany, 


                                                               6708

 1    they had unanimous support to eliminate the use 

 2    or the sale of these for anyone under age 21 

 3    because of what we've seen are misuses.  

 4                 What you are describing is part of 

 5    any emergency instruction that a parent would 

 6    give a child when using any type of motorized 

 7    vehicle.

 8                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.  Would the sponsor continue to 

10    yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield? 

13                 SENATOR FAHY:   Sure.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR WEIK:   So as I represent 

17    the South Shore of Long Island, a pretty 

18    significant portion of it, you can see that this 

19    is one of those very important topics that really 

20    needs clarity for all of the individuals who are 

21    in my district.  

22                 So again, I just haven't gotten a 

23    clear answer.  So I as the parent am giving my 

24    son, who is a legal boater, he's 15 years old, 

25    he's going out on a 21-foot-boat.  I know where 


                                                               6709

 1    he's going.  I give him a flare gun and I hand it 

 2    to him.  If he should use it in the case of an 

 3    emergency, or even if he doesn't, I have now 

 4    given him that flare gun for his safety.  

 5                 Am I, as the parent, being held 

 6    criminally liable?

 7                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President.  Again, I've read the sections of 

 9    the law here regarding sale and use of these 

10    guns.  This is intended to really get at what has 

11    become a growing problem.  

12                 But I should also add electric 

13    flares are comparably priced, and that is also 

14    why we've seen the Coast Guard switch the use 

15    from the very pyrotechnic-type flare guns.  

16                 What you are referring to is use in 

17    an emergency situation.  Just as -- just as a 

18    child may end up driving a car when a parent is 

19    incapacitated while driving that car, the child 

20    would certainly not be held liable during an 

21    emergency situation.  

22                 And I think that's the same -- it 

23    would be somewhat comparable here.  That is not 

24    the intent of this bill.  And that is not -- 

25    certainly was not the intent of Albany County.  


                                                               6710

 1    We have seen a tremendous misuse of these flare 

 2    guns to the point of where it brought down a 

 3    couple of buildings and created a rather horrific 

 4    incident here, as well as in Rome, Utica, and a 

 5    few other areas in the state.

 6                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 7    Mr. President.  Would the sponsor continue to 

 8    yield?  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield? 

11                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.  

14                 SENATOR WEIK:   So then why doesn't 

15    this bill specifically just talk to those issues 

16    instead of addressing it in such a general, broad 

17    manner that it addresses every situation within 

18    New York State?

19                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

20    Mr. President.  Because the young people that 

21    terrorized part of a neighborhood -- and in a few 

22    of the incidences that we have had, those young 

23    people in a couple of those instances had not 

24    bought the flare gun, they were handed the flare 

25    gun -- again, with criminal intent.  It was not a 


                                                               6711

 1    parent.  It was not used in an emergency 

 2    situation.  There was no boat nearby.  There was 

 3    no water nearby.  

 4                 So it's a very different issue that 

 5    would need to be addressed here.  And it was 

 6    certainly a very different type of use or misuse, 

 7    I should say, of the flare gun.

 8                 But you do need to have the broader 

 9    language because of that instance or those number 

10    of incidences.

11                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

12                 Mr. President, would the sponsor 

13    continue to yield?  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR FAHY:   Certainly.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    sponsor yields.  

19                 SENATOR WEIK:   Is there anything in 

20    this bill that criminalizes the improper or 

21    dangerous use of a flare gun?  

22                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President, can you repeat that?   Is there 

24    anything -- what?  I'm sorry.  

25                 SENATOR WEIK:   Is there anything in 


                                                               6712

 1    this bill that criminalizes the improper or 

 2    dangerous use of a flare gun?

 3                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

 4    Mr. President, that is a part of the bill for 

 5    those who are under the age of 17.  

 6                 It would -- the sale or giving of a 

 7    flare gun would.  So yes.

 8                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.  Would the sponsor continue to 

10    yield?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield? 

13                 SENATOR FAHY:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.

17                 Is there anything in this bill that 

18    amends the Raise the Age to expand criminal 

19    liability for minors who intentionally or 

20    recklessly cause physical injury or property 

21    damage with a flare gun?

22                 SENATOR FAHY:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President, no, this does not address 

24    Raise the Age.  This is specifically targeting 

25    flare guns.  


                                                               6713

 1                 And some of this was actually 

 2    generated through conversations with our local 

 3    county sheriff, who said according to their 

 4    office they have seen a concerning increase of 

 5    teenagers in the possession of these modified 

 6    flare guns across New York State.  

 7                 And again, with the modified ones 

 8    where they were able to shoot live rounds, posing 

 9    a serious threat to public safety.  So again, 

10    this is a different -- very different focus here.

11                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

12                 Mr. President, on the bill.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Weik on the bill.

15                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you.  

16                 I know, I've read the news, last 

17    Fourth of July Albany County had a terrible 

18    incident, and there have been many incidents 

19    where young adults, teenagers were terrorizing 

20    neighborhoods and even set fire to a multifamily 

21    house using a flare gun.  

22                 But unfortunately, this bill is so 

23    broad that it punishes every single young adult 

24    under the age of 17 who may have a need to have 

25    or use a flare gun.  


                                                               6714

 1                 This is New York State.  We have 

 2    beautiful waterways, we have lakes, we have 

 3    canals, we have the Catskills, we have the 

 4    Adirondacks, we have tons of mountains to go 

 5    camping in.  And unfortunately, this basic piece 

 6    of safety equipment would not be available for 

 7    those young adults who may be camping or boating 

 8    and desperately need assistance in an emergency 

 9    situation.  They would not be permitted to use a 

10    flare gun.  

11                 And as I've explained before, there 

12    may be other types of flares or emergency guns 

13    like a parachute gun.  But unfortunately, not all 

14    can be seen above trees or in certain areas where 

15    it may be very isolated where a flare gun may be 

16    very easy to use and certainly a lifesaving piece 

17    of equipment.  

18                 This is just too broad, and it 

19    punishes everybody.  We're using the item -- 

20    instead of offering consequences to the actions 

21    of those individuals who acted in a criminal way, 

22    we're now punishing everyone.  

23                 I understand there's a knee-jerk 

24    reaction to try to legislate a solution to a 

25    terrible instance.  But in this case, it's just 


                                                               6715

 1    too broad and it punishes every New Yorker under 

 2    the age of 17, and I'll be voting no.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator Weik.

 5                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 6    to be heard?

 7                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 8    closed.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.  

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We've also 

11    agreed to restore this to the noncontroversial 

12    calendar.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

14    consent, the bill is restored to the 

15    noncontroversial calendar.  

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

23    Fahy to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.  


                                                               6716

 1                 I do think this is incredibly 

 2    important commonsense legislation.  This is not 

 3    about somebody walking around.  Flare guns are 

 4    required to be on maritime vessels, required to 

 5    be there.  So it's not as if a parent would be 

 6    handing a child a flare gun when they're going -- 

 7    when they're on the boat.  The flare gun would 

 8    already be on the boat.  

 9                 Flare guns, again, are designed for 

10    one purpose:  Emergency signaling.  And nothing 

11    in this legislation precludes that emergency 

12    signaling, as we have discussed.  

13                 Yes, we have seen multiple 

14    incidences here in Albany, to the point of two 

15    historic buildings coming down and one business 

16    destroyed.  But we have also seen instances in -- 

17    incidences in Rome, Utica, and other places.  We 

18    have seen an uptick in the use of flare guns, 

19    particularly by teens.  

20                 And this is, again, common sense, 

21    especially when there are such safe alternatives 

22    at a very similar if not the same price.  

23    Electric flares, now adopted by the Coast Guard, 

24    are readily available, something you can buy on 

25    the internet.  They do not have the ability to 


                                                               6717

 1    set a fire and destroy property and more.  

 2                 It is something that needs to be 

 3    adopted.  It is the same price.  But we are not 

 4    making that requirement in this bill.  

 5                 But we are trying to address what 

 6    has become a frightening new reality.  When a 

 7    device is being used to threaten people, start 

 8    fires, facilitate criminal activity, we do have 

 9    an obligation to address it and to try to prevent 

10    further destruction and further misuse.  

11                 And with that, I vote in the 

12    affirmative.  Thank you, Mr. President.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14    Fahy to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                 Senator Murray to explain his vote.

16                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.  

18                 While I appreciate the sponsor's 

19    effort here -- and intent, as we've heard the 

20    word "intent" over and over again -- I think 

21    she's overshot her target with this one.  

22                 And for the record, New York 

23    maritime and boating laws do not specifically 

24    require a flare gun, but they do require boats 

25    16 feet and longer to carry approved visual 


                                                               6718

 1    distress signals.  A flare gun is one way to meet 

 2    this requirement, but standard handheld flares or 

 3    electronic distress lights are highly recommended 

 4    and widely accepted alternatives.  

 5                 So no, it does not require a flare 

 6    gun.  I'll be voting no.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Murray to be recorded in the negative.

 9                 Senator Rhoads to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I certainly 

11    understand Senator Fahy's desire to deal with a 

12    specific situation.  

13                 But Long Island, like many 

14    communities around the state, is certainly a 

15    boating and fishing community.  In order to 

16    actually have a boater's license, you can be as 

17    young as 10 years old to have a boater's license.  

18    There is no age restriction on how old you need 

19    to be in order to own a boat.  So in theory, a 

20    10-year-old, an 11-year-old, a 15-year-old can 

21    actually have a boating license and can actually 

22    register their own boat.

23                 There is no way -- a flare gun is a 

24    safety device.  There is no way for that child to 

25    obtain a flare gun under this legislation without 


                                                               6719

 1    a parent actually buying the flare gun and giving 

 2    it to the child.

 3                 And if the exception mentioned by 

 4    the sponsor, that in emergency situations they 

 5    should be able to utilize it, then the 

 6    legislation should say that.  Because it does 

 7    clearly state that if you give a flare gun to a 

 8    person under the age of 17 years old, that is a 

 9    criminal offense.  

10                 So if that was the intent, the 

11    legislation should say that.  It doesn't say 

12    that.  We're restricting kids from having a 

13    safety device.  While I understand the intent, 

14    this did overshoot the mark, and I'll be voting 

15    no.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

17    Rhoads to be recorded in the negative.

18                 Senator Weik to explain her vote.

19                 SENATOR WEIK:   Thank you, 

20    Mr. President.

21                 So as a boater and a boating family, 

22    I can tell you that again, as Senator Murray 

23    pointed out and Senator Rhoads pointed out, it is 

24    not required to have a flare gun on the boat.  

25    We're only required to have flares.  


                                                               6720

 1                 And so with that, if I determine as 

 2    a parent that my child's situation is better used 

 3    with a flare gun, or if he's going camping, which 

 4    he's an Eagle Scout, so he went camping quite 

 5    often.  If I had handed him a flare gun, I would 

 6    have been held criminally liable for giving him a 

 7    piece of equipment that he could have used in an 

 8    emergency situation.  

 9                 And I just think this is a badly 

10    written bill.  I understand the purpose, but I 

11    think it misses the purpose entirely.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

13    Weik to be recorded in the negative.

14                 Senator Walczyk to explain his vote.

15                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   You could 

16    continue to ban everything that somebody 

17    determines that they want to use in a crime.  Or 

18    you could just prosecute criminals in the State 

19    of New York.  

20                 I think flare guns are both cool and 

21    useful in emergency situations, so I'll be voting 

22    no.  

23                 Thank you, Mr. President.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

25    Walczyk to be recorded in the negative.  


                                                               6721

 1                 Announce the results.  

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1478, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Brisport, 

 5    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

 6    Helming, Jackson, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

 7    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 8    Rolison, Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and 

 9    Weik.

10                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 25.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

15    our final debate of the evening, Calendar 847, 

16    please.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    Secretary will ring the bell.  

19                 The Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    847, Assembly Bill Number 4603A, by 

22    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

23    Correction Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

25    Stec, why do you rise?  


                                                               6722

 1                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for a 

 3    few questions.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President, I yield.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.  

10                 SENATOR STEC:   All right, thank 

11    you, Mr. President.  Through you.

12                 Senator, DOCCS already has a 

13    visitation policy in place for both state 

14    correctional facilities and local facilities.  In 

15    fact, I've got them in front of me; they're 

16    pretty extensive.  

17                 What does -- why is this bill 

18    necessary if we already have these policies in 

19    place?  

20                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   First of all, 

21    DOCCS doesn't have an official policy.  It 

22    doesn't have anything that's codified or by 

23    statute.  It's according to whenever they want to 

24    give visitation.  

25                 And since we had the unlawful work 


                                                               6723

 1    stoppage, the visitation policy has been worse 

 2    than ever.  You have families that are unable to 

 3    see those that are incarcerated.  

 4                 And I remind this body again, the 

 5    purpose of incarceration is rehabilitation.  And 

 6    the evidence has demonstrated time and again, 

 7    when there is a direct connection with the 

 8    family, when the families visit, when the 

 9    children visit, those that are incarcerated, when 

10    they come out, they're less likely to recommit 

11    offenses.  

12                 And so it's important that we have a 

13    policy in place that's consistent so that 

14    families can have and plan better times to go 

15    visit those that are incarcerated.

16                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, if 

17    the sponsor will continue to yield.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

19    sponsor yield?

20                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President, I do.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

23    sponsor yields.  

24                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you.  

25                 Just so I'm clear, then, so this 


                                                               6724

 1    20-page directive that I've got in front of me 

 2    from DOCCS on their facilities, and these three 

 3    or four pages that I've got here regarding 

 4    visitation for our local correctional 

 5    facilities -- all promulgated by DOCCS -- they 

 6    don't carry the force of law, so you want this 

 7    bill to be the official standard for visitation 

 8    procedures and policies, instead of this 

 9    directive from DOCCS, which is not law.  

10                 Am I understanding your intent 

11    correctly?  

12                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

13    Mr. President, that's correct.  

14                 We want to have a codified system 

15    for visitation for those that are incarcerated.  

16    We don't have that right now.  We have a policy 

17    in place that's subject to change whenever DOCCS 

18    wants to.  But under the circumstances, we don't 

19    think that that's fair.  And I think codification 

20    is the best way to manage visitation.

21                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, if 

22    the sponsor would continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield? 

25                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 


                                                               6725

 1    Mr. President, I do.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.  

 4                 SENATOR STEC:   All right, so I'm 

 5    looking at your bill, and I don't see anything in 

 6    the bill that really gets into the meat and 

 7    potatoes of the rules of visitation like these 

 8    directives do.  

 9                 So I guess would this -- would your 

10    bill require DOCCS to re-create a policy?  And 

11    what would stop them from saying that their 

12    directive is the new policy?  

13                 Because your legislation doesn't get 

14    into a lot of specifics.

15                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   DOCCS can have 

16    their policy, they still have their policy, this 

17    isn't going to stop them, but they have to comply 

18    with the codification that we have here.

19                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  

20    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

21    yield?

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

23    sponsor yield.

24                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

25    Mr. President, I do.


                                                               6726

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.  

 3                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  So your 

 4    bill requires that state and local correctional 

 5    facilities establish visiting policies that give 

 6    opportunities for, quote, in-person contact.  

 7    What constitutes in-person contact?

 8                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President.  I think in-person contact is 

10    pretty self-explanatory.  When either the 

11    children or the family members of the person 

12    that's incarcerated, that they get to see their 

13    family physically near them rather than through 

14    virtual.  

15                 We know that virtual is an option.  

16    We're glad that it is an option.  But it's not 

17    the best option.  And what we want to do is we 

18    want to bring the best option and the best policy 

19    for DOCCS.

20                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, will 

21    the sponsor continue to yield? 

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

23    sponsor yield?

24                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   (Motioning.)

25                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  Thank 


                                                               6727

 1    you.  So not to belabor it, but --

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Oh, I'm 

 3    sorry.  Senator Sepúlveda, do you yield?  

 4                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   I yield.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.  

 7                 I'm sorry.  I'm sorry, Senator Stec.

 8                 SENATOR STEC:   He motioned, but I 

 9    got you.

10                 Not to belabor the -- you know, this 

11    is all spelled out in these existing directives, 

12    but it's not spelled out in your bill, that in 

13    contact, contact in-person, not in-person, it's 

14    spelled out in existing policy but it's not 

15    spelled out in your bill.  

16                 So would your bill require that 

17    physical contact be allowed during all visits?  

18                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Can you repeat 

19    the question?

20                 SENATOR STEC:   Yes.  Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  

22                 Would your bill require that 

23    physical contact be allowed during all visits, 

24    physical contact?

25                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   No, it does 


                                                               6728

 1    not.  Through you, Mr. President, no, it does 

 2    not.

 3                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  

 4    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 5    yield? 

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 7    sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11    sponsor yields.  

12                 SENATOR STEC:   All right, so 

13    current policy under the emergency regs, the 

14    current policy at DOCCS denies contact if a 

15    visitor refuses a body scan.  Would this bill 

16    change that?  

17                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   No.  Through 

18    you, Mr. President, no.

19                 SENATOR STEC:   All right.  

20    Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

21    yield.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

23    sponsor yield?  Will the sponsor yield?

24                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

25    Mr. President, I do.


                                                               6729

 1                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   The sponsor 

 2    yields.

 3                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.  Through you.  

 5                 Does your bill outline any 

 6    circumstances where a person -- personal contact 

 7    can be denied, in your bill?  

 8                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, it does not.

10                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield, please?  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:  Will the 

13    sponsor yield?    

14                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

15    Mr. President, I do.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

17    sponsor yields.  

18                 SENATOR STEC:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President.  

20                 Does your bill outline any 

21    procedures for allowing a person -- personal 

22    contact in a manner that can limit the 

23    introduction of contraband?  

24                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

25    Mr. President.  


                                                               6730

 1                 What my bill does is it requires 

 2    DOCCS to establish policies.  It's not taking 

 3    away their ability to create policies with some 

 4    parameters.  But DOCCS can still create their 

 5    policies.  

 6                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, will 

 7    the sponsor continue to yield for maybe one more 

 8    question.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President, yes. 

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR STEC:   Are you aware that 

16    the New York State Sheriffs' Association opposes 

17    the bill because it fails to define "personal 

18    contact"?

19                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   No, I'm not 

20    aware of the Sheriffs' Association's contention.  

21    But it doesn't have to, we don't have to 

22    establish the policy, they can do it themselves.  

23    We just have to have codification of these 

24    policies.

25                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, if 


                                                               6731

 1    the sponsor would yield for just one more 

 2    question.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 4    sponsor yield?

 5                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President, yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.  Through you.  

11                 While contraband continues to enter 

12    our prisons and put inmates and staff at risk, is 

13    it wise to expand our visitation policy in a way 

14    that would make it more difficult to keep 

15    dangerous contraband out of our prisons?  

16                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

17    Mr. President.  

18                 I remind my colleague that during 

19    COVID, visitation was completely paralyzed and 

20    yet you still had a lot of contraband that came 

21    in.  So I don't think this is going to impact the 

22    amount of contraband that comes into the 

23    facilities.

24                 SENATOR STEC:   Mr. President, on 

25    the bill.


                                                               6732

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 2    Stec on the bill.

 3                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.  

 5                 This bill is a solution in search of 

 6    a problem.  I've got the DOCCS policies, and 

 7    they're extensive, on requiring and -- and 

 8    appeals processes and who can and can't limit 

 9    visitation.  

10                 And I've been in the prisons.  They 

11    have visitation policies already.

12                 This bill is lacking, which is why 

13    the Sheriffs' Association is opposed to it, 

14    because it's very vague in what it says it wants 

15    to do.  

16                 And my concerns for contraband 

17    remain.  And they remain unaddressed.  We're in 

18    the last week of session, we haven't passed a 

19    single bill that does anything to address any of 

20    the safety concerns that have been raised in the 

21    15, 16 months since the end of the corrections 

22    strike.  

23                 All you have to do is open a 

24    newspaper -- there are weekly stories about 

25    unknown chemical exposures, sending staff and 


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 1    inmates alike to the emergency room, overrunning 

 2    the local rescue squads, burdening a lot of small 

 3    rural upstate hospitals needlessly.  

 4                 There's all kind of technology that 

 5    the taxpayers bought and paid for and has been 

 6    installed in all these prisons.  Every state 

 7    facility has a body scanner.  And until the 

 8    emergency declaration was made, it was at the 

 9    option of visitors.  Now today, under current 

10    memos, it's not at their option.  If they refuse, 

11    then they can still have a visit, just not a 

12    contact visit.  

13                 What is the concern over contact 

14    visits?  Because the bag of peanuts that they're 

15    sharing in a contact visit isn't always peanuts.  

16                 The taxpayer has bought tablets and 

17    put them in the prisons.  We have wifi in the 

18    prisons.  They have law libraries, they have 

19    photocopiers, and they have printers.  And yet we 

20    still get legal mail going in there with 

21    God knows what it's soaked in that are sending 

22    inmates and staff alike, on a weekly basis -- 

23    open a newspaper, you're going to find these 

24    examples, and it's been going on more in the last 

25    year.


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 1                 We have done zero bills to address 

 2    contraband, and this bill, as loosely worded as 

 3    it is, further blurs that line and makes it more, 

 4    not less likely for contraband problems to 

 5    continue in our prisons.  

 6                 I really -- there's no need for it.  

 7    We already have policies.  The sponsor suggests 

 8    that there are no policies.  I've got them in 

 9    front of me.  There's policies that govern the 

10    rules on visitation.  

11                 People are visiting loved ones in 

12    prison.  They are having contact visits in 

13    prison.  I'd like DOCCS to be in charge of what 

14    happens there so that we start to reduce the 

15    amount of contraband in prison so that it would 

16    reduce the amount of employees -- and my 

17    constituents -- that continue to go to the 

18    emergency room because DOCCS is out of control.  

19                 I'll be voting no.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Are there 

21    any other Senators wishing to be heard?  

22                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

23    closed.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 


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 1    we have agreed to restore this bill to the 

 2    noncontroversial calendar.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Upon 

 4    consent, the bill is restored to the 

 5    noncontroversial calendar.

 6                 Read the last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

13    Helming to explain her vote.

14                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

15    Mr. President.

16                 Fifteen months ago state corrections 

17    officers protested the unsafe working conditions 

18    and staffing shortages inside our prisons.  Those 

19    concerns have yet to be adequately addressed.

20                 We have more than 4,000 vacancies, 

21    contraband continues to enter the prisons, and we 

22    have continued violence.  Just last week video 

23    footage was released showing an inmate brutally 

24    attacking and beating a volunteer GED instructor.  

25                 And instead of taking meaningful 


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 1    steps to improve safety or address the workforce 

 2    shortages, what we have before us is a bill 

 3    requiring state facilities and our county jails 

 4    to expand visitation hours, including evenings 

 5    and weekends.  

 6                 I found it interesting that the 

 7    sponsor's memo states there are no fiscal 

 8    implications.  I don't see how that's possible, 

 9    when counties are going to be required to provide 

10    additional staffing and resources.  And since 

11    there's no funding attached to this bill, these 

12    costs will most likely be passed on to taxpayers 

13    in the form of another unfunded mandate.  

14                 Mr. President, family connections, 

15    visitation is extreme important.  But before 

16    creating these new mandates, we should be focused 

17    on improving safety within our facilities, 

18    addressing workforce shortages, and supporting 

19    the men and women who work in our correctional 

20    facilities and our jails every day.

21                 For these reasons, I will be voting 

22    no.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Helming to be recorded in the negative.

25                 Announce the results.  


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 847, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 4    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

 5    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 6    Rolison, Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and 

 7    Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 22.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

12    reading of the controversial calendar.  

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

14    returning to motions and resolutions, I offer 

15    amendments to the following Third Reading 

16    Calendar bills:  

17                 Calendar Number 202, Senate Print 

18    660, by Senator Gianaris; 

19                 Calendar Number 1086, Senate Print 

20    9990, by Senator Skoufis; 

21                 Calendar Number 854, Senate Print 

22    9051A, by Senator Gonzalez; 

23                 And Calendar Number 1510, Senate 

24    Print 10200, by Senator Kavanagh.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 


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 1    amendments are received, and those bills will 

 2    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The sponsors of 

 5    all of today's resolutions would like to open 

 6    those resolutions for cosponsorship.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

 9    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 

10    the desk.

11                 Senator Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

13    further business at the desk?

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

15    no further business at the desk.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

17    adjourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, June 2nd, at 

18    12:00 noon.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

20    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

21    Tuesday, June 2nd, at 12:00 noon.

22                 (Whereupon, at 7:53 p.m., the Senate 

23    adjourned.)

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